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Dirtbag59 11-02-2009 06:14 PM

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[quote=Daseal;619123]Best. Player. Available.[/quote]

Not necessarily. I mean as I've said before, I don't believe Vinny is nearly as much of a BPA as he says he is. A lot of his first round picks I believe really have been BPA but after that I think he just picks whatever he wants and in many cases the one position he seems to avoid drafting at all cost is offensive lineman.

I personally like to look at is his quote about selecting a player at 13. I definately understand the sentiment towards drafting Orakpo but saying that no lineman was worthy of the 13th pick at that spot is just asinine especially seeing the way Michael Oher has played this year.

Like many fans I'm done with his ways. I don't trust him to do whats right. In fact I'd be willing to bet that if he's in charge of the draft next year none of our first two picks will be along the O-Line. Then we'll hear the same crap about his holy draft board and how no one there was worthy of our picks.

Daseal 11-02-2009 07:09 PM

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I don't care about Vinny. We have a roster where we need the best player available, regardless of position.

Hamoskinz 11-02-2009 10:58 PM

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The o-line problems is the main problem I see and that is why I voted O-line. Guys like Alex Smith, David Carr etc... who were drafted as franchise QBs but were sacked to death because of non-existent o-lines, as another factor. (I know there is Matt Ryan & Joe Flacco but Ravens drafted some good o-linemen like Jared Gaither & 2 others the year before).

Obviously trading down for extra high picks is ideal but rarely do teams trade up for the top 5 picks.

Also, if there is a Javon Ringer type RB in the 2010 draft class we could pick up in the 4th rd, that would be super.

How many o-linemen do we need to draft???

1. LT
2. Starting RT???
3. Guard or Center - How about Edwin Williams???

T.O.Killa 11-02-2009 11:03 PM

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[quote=Angry;619608][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]No, it tells you that way too often QB's are over drafted. People fall in love with them and draft them too early. Guys like Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, and Brian Brohm, get over drafted, meanwhile a guy like Chad Henne who is not much less talented and gets selected in the second. Everybody thinks that they are going to end up with the next Peyton Manning in the first round, when the reality is that they are more than likely going to end up with the next Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, [B]Jay Cutler[/B], Alex Smith, [B]Aaron Rogers[/B], or Jason Campbell. I think that it is safe to say that only one of those names (maybe 2) were actually worth a first round selection. Neither was the first QB taken in the draft either. Joe Gibbs once said that if you can protect the QB, then there are about 26 guys who can play in this league, if you cannot protect them there are only about 5. I paraphrased because I didn’t want to screw his words up. Needless to say if you look at previous draft history you can find some 2nd-6th rounders that you can develop into solid starters that might be as effective as or better than 1st round draft picks at the QB position.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][URL="http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position"]National Football League: NFL Draft History Full Draft - by Position[/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]
I cant believe you put Cutler and Rogers in that list. They are worlds ahead of them. Yes you are right thats why you have to keep taking chances till you get one.

tootergray34 11-02-2009 11:04 PM

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jake locker is also a QB to get some looks 6'3 and 225...just saying...he's like Tebow..except he can throw.

CultBrennan59 11-03-2009 12:25 AM

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[quote=tootergray34;619788]jake locker is also a QB to get some looks 6'3 and 225...just saying...he's like Tebow..except he can throw.[/quote]

Ya, he's good, but if bradford falls to us, and/or Okung is off the board, then I think we should still take Bradford, now if all the good LT's are off the board, which I doubt, and Bradford's out, then yeah go ahead and get Locker

CultBrennan59 11-03-2009 12:30 AM

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2010 NFL Free Agent Offensive Linemen
By: Roshan Bhagat

Age as of 9/1/09. All free agents listed here are done so with an optimistic outlook that a new CBA will be agreed upon. Accordingly, only four accrued seasons are necessary to obtain an Unrestricted Free Agency status on this list.

Jahri Evans, New Orleans Saints (26)
Jahri Evans is continuing to grade out as the team’s best run-blocking linemen week after week. The Saints have done a nice job of efficiently running the ball through the middle and on the right side of the line. His continual high level of play and positive, team-first attitude should translate to a high-end offensive guard contract at year’s end. Expect the Saints, who have nothing but positive things to say towards Evans, to richly reward him for his hard work and production.

Logan Mankins, New England Patriots (27)
Logan Mankins has been a very consistent player for the Patriots since he was drafted. That type of consistency is difficult to match, but with free agency inflating the value of offensive guards, the Patriots may end up letting him walk if the price isn’t right. They drafted a couple interior linemen last year and have to use some of their free money to re-sign other players. From what Mankins has said, he wants to stay on this winning franchise, but he could be one of the top players available next offseason.

Marcus McNeill, San Diego Chargers (25)
McNeill isn’t playing at an elite level this year, but is still an above average left tackle. He’s one of the “bigger” names at the left tackle position thanks to his spectacular, hyped rookie season. McNeill has also been undercompensated the last few years playing on his rookie contract as a 2nd round pick, which may incline him to ask for more money than he “deserves.” Any of the Chargers could feasibly be had this offseason and McNeill is no different, but with some of the offensive line woes of the Chargers, McNeill may be one of their top priorities. His long-term neck and back problems could be in the back of the team’s mind as well.

Daryn Colledge, Green Bay Packers (27)
Colledge is no longer viewed as the solution at left tackle in Green Bay. Mid-round TJ Lang has taken over the back-up position there. That alone is enough to make his value take a significant plunge. This will especially be overstated because of his poor performance in the team’s biggest game to date – Monday Night in Minnesota. Still, he’s an above average starting offensive guard and a great pass protector in the interior. Colledge’s value will most likely be highest to the Packers because he’s a great fit for what they do and they know his true value.

Jared Gaither, Baltimore Ravens (23) – Restricted FA
After being taken off the field on a stretcher in New England, Gaither luckily suffered no season or career threatening injury. His return to the field should come in the upcoming weeks. The Ravens have found their bookend tackles, with him and Oher on either side, and even if they can’t settle on a long-term deal with Gaither this offseason, they still have the ability to put a tender on him. At the very least, it would force teams to give up serious compensation for his services. Gaither’s length and athleticism make him an ideal fit at left tackle, but could possibly get him for less coin if they think Oher is capable of playing LT and pay Gaither on the right side.

Winston Justice, Philadelphia Eagles (24)
Justice is finally starting to live up to his expectations as a 2nd round selection. He’s played well in pass protection at right tackle replacing the oft-injured Shawn Andrews. The Eagles are in a tricky situation. Andrews has flashed so much potential and played well when on the field, but has struggled to give them enough snaps without getting injured. Should the team re-sign Justice, they could very well be putting Justice on the bench at the cost of a starter. They already have last year’s free agent acquisition, Stacy Andrews expensively riding the bench.

Kevin Mawae, Tennessee Titans (38)
Mawae has started all six games for the Titans this year, but with his contract expiring, the line may turn to Leroy Harris who will have been groomed for 3 years, sparingly seeing the field. If Mawae is up for another season, he could land on a number of teams, or just re-sign in Tennessee. He still has a little gas left in the tank and it the Titans pass on him, several teams will be lining up for him and accept the leadership he brings to the team.

Chad Clifton, Green Bay Packers (33)
Clifton has suffered a lingering ankle injury this season forcing the Packers to retreat to other options at left tackle. Even when on the field, Clifton hasn’t looked like half the player he was in his prime where he was one of the league’s best pass blockers. The years of injury and battle have worn on Clifton who has lost some of his discipline and been beaten on several occasions. If Clifton isn’t offered another contract in Green Bay, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the franchise’s great blind side protector call it quits.

Mike Gandy, Arizona Cardinals (30)
Gandy has struggled immensely and should definitely be upgraded this offseason. He doesn’t hold much value on the left side and may be asked to move to the right side for the rest of his career. If Arizona can’t find a better replacement, they could potentially try and get one more year out of him, but the Cardinals would be pushing their luck.


So, don't be surprised if we go this route and draft a QB

mlmdub130 11-03-2009 12:31 AM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;619819]Ya, he's good, but if bradford falls to us, and/or Okung is off the board, then I think we should still take Bradford, [B]now if all the good LT's are off the board[/B], which I doubt, and Bradford's out, then yeah go ahead and get Locker[/quote]

are you new to dc, we draft over hyped receivers and really good players that we think would be better suiteed at a new position, not o linemen

CultBrennan59 11-03-2009 12:34 AM

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[quote=mlmdub130;619822]are you new to dc, we draft over hyped receivers and really good players that we think would be better suiteed at a new position, not o linemen[/quote]

haha, well I'm HOPING that we take the draft route that we did back in 1999 with Samuels. But good point none the less. That's also why I put up the Free Agent OLinemen that will be available during the offseason, assuming maybe we go for a QB.

KI Skins Fan 11-03-2009 09:21 AM

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[quote=mlmdub130;619822]are you new to dc, we draft over hyped receivers and really good players that we think would be better suiteed at a new position, not o linemen[/quote]

For purposes of this discussion, I'd like to assume that Vinny will be gone and that we'll have a real GM by the time we draft.

With that in mind, maybe we will draft a LT in the first round. If so, then it would be nice to pick up QB Jake Locker in the early second round.

Ruhskins 11-03-2009 09:23 AM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;619819]Ya, he's good, but if [B]bradford[/B] falls to us, and/or Okung is off the board, then I think we should still take Bradford, now if all the good LT's are off the board, which I doubt, and Bradford's out, then yeah go ahead and get Locker[/quote]

I still don't understand why ppl want to take a QB with a shoulder injury (twice) and who needed season ending surgery.

SouperMeister 11-03-2009 09:31 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;619887]For purposes of this discussion, I'd like to assume that Vinny will be gone and that we'll have a real GM by the time we draft.

[B]With that in mind, maybe we will draft a LT in the first round. If so, then it would be nice to pick up QB Jake Locker in the early second round[/B].[/quote]My thinking exactly, and it doesn't even have to be Locker, whom I like for his toughness. Grab the dominant Tackle in the first round, then take care of QB. It infuriates me that Vinny's plan B for O-line depth was a 400 lb guy who was out of football for 3 years. I'm sure Mike Williams is a great guy, and kudos for dropping weight, but we should have had a better plan for our #3 OT.

MTK 11-03-2009 09:37 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;619888]I still don't understand why ppl want to take a QB with a shoulder injury (twice) and who needed season ending surgery.[/quote]

The injury shouldn't be the kiss of death.

SouperMeister 11-03-2009 09:48 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;619895]The injury shouldn't be the kiss of death.[/quote]Miami probably wishes that they had taken a shot on Drew Brees and his surgically repaired shoulder. Not saying that Bradford is another Brees, but I agree that if Bradford's surgery and rehab are successful, he should be good to go physically.

KLHJ2 11-03-2009 09:55 AM

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[quote=T.O.Killa;619787]I cant believe you put Cutler and Rogers in that list. They are worlds ahead of them. Yes you are right thats why you have to keep taking chances till you get one.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I added all QB's in the past 4 years because I didn't want to try and smoke and mirror my point. My point was that in 4 years only 2 QB's came out of the Draft that were actually worthy of a 1st round pick. Saying 2 might be pushing it because Jay cutler isn't looking so hot right now, but we shall give him the benefit of the doubt.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Looking at the numbers for offensive tackles though through the last several drafts though you will notice that offensive Tackles are a safer 1st round pick. More of them tend to pan out than QB's do.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Now I am not completely against taking a QB in the first round, but to do so, I must have a solid offensive line from Tackle to Tackle. Right now the Skins do not have a solid offensive line, so to put a first round QB behind it regardless of his talent level is a recipe for disaster. You do not want to waste a first round pick on a guy that will not be able to stay healthy because your line sucks.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?position=OL&type=position]National Football League: NFL Draft History Full Draft - by Position[/url]

SouperMeister 11-03-2009 10:04 AM

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[quote=Angry;619904][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I added all QB's in the past 4 years because I didn't want to try and smoke and mirror my point. My point was that in 4 years only 2 QB's came out of the Draft that were actually worthy of a 1st round pick. Saying 2 might be pushing it because Jay cutler isn't looking so hot right now, but we shall give him the benefit of the doubt.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][B]Looking at the numbers for offensive tackles though through the last several drafts though you will notice that offensive Tackles are a safer 1st round pick. More of them tend to pan out than QB's do[/B].[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Now I am not completely against taking a QB in the first round, but to do so, I must have a solid offensive line from Tackle to Tackle. Right now the Skins do not have a solid offensive line, so to put a first round QB behind it regardless of his talent level is a recipe for disaster. You do not want to waste a first round pick on a guy that will not be able to stay healthy because your line sucks.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?position=OL&type=position"]National Football League: NFL Draft History Full Draft - by Position[/URL][/quote]This is why we should go OT. If we swing and miss on a top-5 QB, it will set the franchise back at least 5 years. We are already one hell of a lot closer to being the Detroit Lions than the Atlanta Falcons. The Falcons have given Matt Ryan an adequate offensive line and an outstanding running game. Detroit threw Stafford to the wolves behind their poor O-line and got him injured after only 5 games.

MTK 11-03-2009 10:10 AM

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[quote=SouperMeister;619900]Miami probably wishes that they had taken a shot on Drew Brees and his surgically repaired shoulder. Not saying that Bradford is another Brees, but I agree that if Bradford's surgery and rehab are successful, he should be good to go physically.[/quote]

Exactly.

And since the Redskins own physician performed the surgery, medically we should know exactly what the risk is.

freddyg12 11-03-2009 10:12 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;619911]Exactly.

And since the Redskins own physician performed the surgery, medically we should know exactly what the risk is.[/quote]

Last night before the game, A. Scheffler made this same point & speculated that since Dr. Andrews would work on Bradford, the skins might be interested in him if he's there when we pick. He & Mort agreed w/out hesitation that the team has a need at QB. Guess there's not much debate in the national media about JC now either?

MTK 11-03-2009 10:20 AM

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[quote=freddyg12;619914]Last night before the game, A. Scheffler made this same point & speculated that since Dr. Andrews would work on Bradford, the skins might be interested in him if he's there when we pick. He & Mort agreed w/out hesitation that the team has a need at QB. Guess there's not much debate in the national media about JC now either?[/quote]

It's been clear for a while now that JC wasn't the QB of choice this year, and with the way things have gone I think it's obvious both sides will move on. Especially with a new coach and (hopefully) new GM in place, a new QB is likely.

SouperMeister 11-03-2009 10:22 AM

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[quote=freddyg12;619914]Last night before the game, A. Scheffler made this same point & speculated that since Dr. Andrews would work on Bradford, the skins might be interested in him if he's there when we pick. He & Mort agreed w/out hesitation that the team has a need at QB. Guess there's not much debate in the national media about JC now either?[/quote]I think Campbell is damaged goods psychologically at this point. Analysts such as Jaws and Theismann have shown instances where Campbell checked down when there were plays available downfield - the guy is gun shy at this point. He will probably make a decent backup for somebody, but little more than that.

If we do draft Bradford, I want a long term coach in place, not a Holmgren who will walk away after 4 years the way Gibbs did. I envy the Eagles with Reid and McNabb being joined at the hip from day one. I want the next coach to be here for 10+ years, so I would prefer to look at someone in their early 40's to stabilize this franchise.

Son Of Man 11-03-2009 10:46 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;619887]For purposes of this discussion, I'd like to assume that Vinny will be gone and that we'll have a real GM by the time we draft.

With that in mind, maybe we will draft a LT in the first round. If so, then it would be nice to pick up QB Jake Locker in the early second round.[/quote]

Locker won't be there in the second round. He'll come off the board in the top 15 picks, possibly be the 1st or 2nd QB taken.

Son Of Man 11-03-2009 10:48 AM

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[quote=SouperMeister;619900]Miami probably wishes that they had taken a shot on Drew Brees and his surgically repaired shoulder. Not saying that Bradford is another Brees, but I agree that if Bradford's surgery and rehab are successful, he should be good to go physically.[/quote]

Lou Holtz and others seem to think that Bradford's only problem is learning how to fall on his back. That, and a good weight training routine, should be enough to keep him on the field. I don't think he had an injury history before this year?

freddyg12 11-03-2009 10:56 AM

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[quote=SouperMeister;619921]I think Campbell is damaged goods psychologically at this point. Analysts such as Jaws and Theismann have shown instances where Campbell checked down when there were plays available downfield - the guy is gun shy at this point. He will probably make a decent backup for somebody, but little more than that.

If we do draft Bradford, I want a long term coach in place, not a Holmgren who will walk away after 4 years the way Gibbs did. I envy the Eagles with Reid and McNabb being joined at the hip from day one. I want the next coach to be here for 10+ years, so I would prefer to look at someone in their early 40's to stabilize this franchise.[/quote]

I agree w/Matty, he's highly unlikely to be here next season. I also agree w/you that he seems gun shy & has regressed this year. I still think he can be a decent starter, or would've been here if Al Saunders had been retained.

What I found interesting about Mort & Schef's comments last night is that it's such a foregone conclusion that the skins will be looking for a qb. They didn't say "if" just 'when.'

MTK 11-03-2009 11:08 AM

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Well it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that Zorn is gone, and Vinny may not be far behind. Only makes sense that the QB is next on the chopping block.

CultBrennan59 11-03-2009 11:18 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;619888]I still don't understand why ppl want to take a QB with a shoulder injury (twice) and who needed season ending surgery.[/quote]

Simply because he hasn't been injured before this year, and look at drew brees, that bad shoulder tear that he had a few years ago, seems to be doing just fine for him, if you ask me.

freddyg12 11-03-2009 11:23 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;619946]Well it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that Zorn is gone, and Vinny may not be far behind. Only makes sense that the QB is next on the chopping block.[/quote]

agreed

SouperMeister 11-03-2009 11:38 AM

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[quote=freddyg12;619937]I agree w/Matty, he's highly unlikely to be here next season. I also agree w/you that he seems gun shy & has regressed this year. [B]I still think he can be a decent starter, or would've been here if Al Saunders had been retained[/B].

What I found interesting about Mort & Schef's comments last night is that it's such a foregone conclusion that the skins will be looking for a qb. They didn't say "if" just 'when.'[/quote]Agree that remaining in Saunders' system was Campbell's greatest chance at success, but our lack of quality O-line depth would have killed any system. Perhaps the best lesson learned for Snyder in the Zorn experiment is that it's not the system stupid, it's the players. Detroit's WCO was garbage too when their O-line couldn't protect Harrington. Ditto here.

freddyg12 11-03-2009 11:43 AM

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[quote=SouperMeister;619970]Agree that remaining in Saunders' system was Campbell's greatest chance at success, but our lack of quality O-line depth would have killed any system. Perhaps the best lesson learned for Snyder in the Zorn experiment is that it's not the system stupid, it's the players. Detroit's WCO was garbage too when their O-line couldn't protect Harrington. Ditto here.[/quote]

true, he would've ended up on his back a lot. But often JC is panicking when pressure isn't there. If he had confidence in the plays at least he'd have half the battle won, now he has no confidence in the system or the o line.

KI Skins Fan 11-03-2009 12:49 PM

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[quote=Son Of Man;619933]Locker won't be there in the second round. He'll come off the board in the top 15 picks, possibly be the 1st or 2nd QB taken.[/quote]

We may think we know where a player will be drafted but there are always surprises. He could fall.

Do you think that there will be four QB's taken in the first round (Clausen, Bradford, Tebow, and Locker)?

In any event, I'd look to draft a QB in the second or fourth round. Perhaps Jevan Snead, Colt McCoy, Zac Robinson, Ryan Mallet, or Max Hall.

freddyg12 11-03-2009 02:46 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;619275]I thought I heard he should be able to transition to LT pretty easily in the NFL, or maybe I confused him with someone else[/quote]

Probably Sergio Render who plays guard at Va Tech (not DeChristopher who's a RT) & is in most top 5 guard lists. He's a senior and pretty athletic. I could see him playing tackle in the nfl.

BigHairedAristocrat 11-03-2009 03:34 PM

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I voted QB; however it really depends on where we draft, what players are available, and how deep the 2010 and 2011 drafts are at the QB and OL positions. it usually takes longer to develop a QB; where as 1st round OTs can usually start right away. If we are looking towards the future, and there was a "can't miss QB prospect sitting there," then drafting a QB would make the most sense. Our plan would be to draft a Qb with our 2010 1st round pick, draft an OT with our 2010 2nd round pick, and draft an OT with our 2011 1st round pick.

However, at this time, I personally don't think there will be any QBs available worth taking with a top 5 pick (which i presume we will have). However, alot can change between now and the draft and, in theory, taking a QB makes the most sense.

The absolute last thing we should do is draft a running back in the first or second rounds in 2010. Running backs have such a short "lifespan" of being productive in the NFL, we would be foolish to waste a high pick on a running back until we have a rock solid offensive line. Otherwise, the running back would be on the downside of his career before we had built up a good enough line around him.

Now, everything I just said goes out the window if the team does the smart thing and trades away all our "valuable veterans" for high draft picks (Haynesworth for 2 1st, Cooley for a 1st, Landry for a 2nd, etc.) We're rebuilding in a capless year - As much as we love some of them, there's no sense keeping these guys around.

Son Of Man 11-03-2009 05:48 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;620048]I voted QB; however it really depends on where we draft, what players are available, and how deep the 2010 and 2011 drafts are at the QB and OL positions. it usually takes longer to develop a QB; where as 1st round OTs can usually start right away. If we are looking towards the future, and there was a "can't miss QB prospect sitting there," then drafting a QB would make the most sense. Our plan would be to draft a Qb with our 2010 1st round pick, draft an OT with our 2010 2nd round pick, and draft an OT with our 2011 1st round pick.

However, at this time, I personally don't think there will be any QBs available worth taking with a top 5 pick (which i presume we will have). However, alot can change between now and the draft and, in theory, taking a QB makes the most sense.

The absolute last thing we should do is draft a running back in the first or second rounds in 2010. Running backs have such a short "lifespan" of being productive in the NFL, we would be foolish to waste a high pick on a running back until we have a rock solid offensive line. Otherwise, the running back would be on the downside of his career before we had built up a good enough line around him.

[B]Now, everything I just said goes out the window if the team does the smart thing and trades away all our "valuable veterans" for high draft picks (Haynesworth for 2 1st, Cooley for a 1st, Landry for a 2nd, etc.) We're rebuilding in a capless year - As much as we love some of them, there's no sense keeping these guys around[/B].[/quote]

Someone has a limited grip on NFL reality. That proposal is positively stupid!

Trample the Elderly 11-03-2009 05:54 PM

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[quote=Son Of Man;620133]Someone has a limited grip on NFL reality. That proposal is positively stupid![/quote]


Someone should read BHA's post more often. That someone is you.

GTripp0012 11-03-2009 06:35 PM

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It's worth noting that 13-16 NFL teams need offensive tackles like there is no tomorrow. The only advantage of picking in the top ten is that we can actually snag one of those guys before a majority of those teams have a shot.

Clearly there are other offensive needs as well, but especially in a light year for receivers (i.e. a year that teams who lack both receivers and OTs don't have the allure of a WR to keep them from creating a run on OTs), the Redskins NEED to capitalize on their draft position and get a tackle before it's too late.

Now, if for whatever reason, we end up picking closer to the middle of the round, then we'll probably have more reason to pick a RB or QB.

RedskinMike 11-03-2009 07:25 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;620048]I voted QB; however it really depends on where we draft, what players are available, and how deep the 2010 and 2011 drafts are at the QB and OL positions. it usually takes longer to develop a QB; where as 1st round OTs can usually start right away. If we are looking towards the future, and there was a "can't miss QB prospect sitting there," then drafting a QB would make the most sense. Our plan would be to draft a Qb with our 2010 1st round pick, draft an OT with our 2010 2nd round pick, and draft an OT with our 2011 1st round pick.

However, at this time, I personally don't think there will be any QBs available worth taking with a top 5 pick (which i presume we will have). However, alot can change between now and the draft and, in theory, taking a QB makes the most sense.

The absolute last thing we should do is draft a running back in the first or second rounds in 2010. Running backs have such a short "lifespan" of being productive in the NFL, we would be foolish to waste a high pick on a running back until we have a rock solid offensive line. Otherwise, the running back would be on the downside of his career before we had built up a good enough line around him.

Now, everything I just said goes out the window if the team does the smart thing and trades away all our "valuable veterans" for high draft picks (Haynesworth for 2 1st, Cooley for a 1st, Landry for a 2nd, etc.) We're rebuilding in a capless year - As much as we love some of them, there's no sense keeping these guys around.[/quote]

In no way is Haynesworth traded even for 2 1sts, then the skins would have paid him 40 + million for one season. No chance that happens.

schndr_tdd 11-05-2009 07:16 PM

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QB if there is quality,but id go with best EVALUATED talent at QB,OL,RB but there maybe enough talent in the free agent market for OL,RB but QB there wont be.Everyone doggin on Bradford ,but he is smart with his decisions and is accurate(even after he came back from his shoulder injury)and we havent seen that since Rypien was slinging the rock.There are a few QB that are 2nd rounders that may be worthy.

rbanerjee23 11-06-2009 02:37 PM

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Everyone who thinks QB is the top choice needs a cat scan

CRedskinsRule 11-06-2009 02:48 PM

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^^ and the one who said a RB probably thinks [URL="http://super-resources.com/gallery/myPh3.photo/640--2008-11-wierd11-profoundly-ugly-woman.jpg"]she[/URL] should be Miss USA

Chico23231 11-06-2009 02:54 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;621201]^^ and the one who said a RB probably thinks [URL="http://super-resources.com/gallery/myPh3.photo/640--2008-11-wierd11-profoundly-ugly-woman.jpg"]she[/URL] should be Miss USA[/quote]

Ewwwww......damn....that was jacked up....

Trample the Elderly 11-06-2009 03:11 PM

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My vote goes to . . . . Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law.


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