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Look at Portis's stats. Where in those stats do you see a player that is always hurt. If Betts didn't fumble so much Gibbs would have let him run more. AP has Chester, LT has the short dude, Jacobs has Bradshaw, Barber has choice (Felix Jones always hurt). We tried it with Betts during Gibbs II, but [B]he kept fumbling!!! [/B]Portis does not fumble that much son. One fumble per season.

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One Fumble per season? I've read your posts and i like your style, but you have to be making a joke here. Please tell me you are.

I do agree with the posters who said that something happened to Portis between late last year and earlier this year. Maybe they were just keeping quiet about it because of his salary and all, but who knows.

Because it used to be where he would just practice a little bit, but now he's reached some "elite" level in his mind that says he doesn't have to practice, or workout, or do anything team related during the week. Just put the pads on for gameday, stumble forward for 2 yards, and then say after the game that the Oline has you limited...rinse and repeat

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;626304]Look at Portis's stats. Where in those stats do you see a player that is always hurt. If Betts didn't fumble so much Gibbs would have let him run more. AP has Chester, LT has the short dude, Jacobs has Bradshaw, Barber has choice (Felix Jones always hurt). We tried it with Betts during Gibbs II, but he kept fumbling!!! Portis does not fumble that much son. [B]One fumble per season[/B].[/quote]

You're high on crack!

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[quote=Lotus;626109]You said previously, "the offensive line is always the reason for a good running game......ALWAYS....."

I pointed out that you were wrong, giving the example of Barry Sanders. There are many more examples: OJ Simpson did not always have the Electric Company, Eric Dickerson ran behind some shaky lines, for a few years Emmitt Smith did not have the best line but still put up yards...I can keep going as there are many more examples.[/quote]

because they had good offensive lines......players like barry sanders dont come around all the time.....all of the other players you mentioned played on good teams with good offensive lines regardless of whatever garbage you think you pointed out.....

is LT a hall of famer without his offensive line and fullback? is emmit smith the all time leading rusher without he cowboys offensive line? NO.....they are not

for some reason you think you are right about this but you arent....its so blatantly obvious that you know nothin about the offensive line and its making the rest of the redskins fans look bad

[quote]Same thing with your point about Portis. You keep citing 2008 although now it is 2009. Once again, your argument is flawed, yet you are not man enough to admit it.[/quote]

i keep citing last season because people continue to claim that he has been struggling for more than just this season.....read the thread dude

the fact is that portis is struggling because he is hurt and because the team is bad......not because he is bad

im telling you that you are blinded by the fact that your team is losing

but your too blind to see that as well

open your eyes..portis is not the problem......so what if he doesnt practice.....thats not a bad thing, especially if he can still produce on sunday.....its a bad thing if he doesnt practice and stinks on sundays.....but he doesnt

why would you want your best running back and one of the highest paid players on the team to get hurt doing something as silly as running drills in practice when the only thing that matters is sundays?

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[quote=firstdown;626226]Its funny how fans like this from another team which finally is playing great football think now they can come tell us what we are doing wrong. Oh, by the way Saints will fall apart again this year so ride that train while you can.[/quote]

like ive said before

ive been here since april......i was invited by an intelligent, well informed poster from this forum but it appears he has left....can you blame him?

you guys are in a position that my team has been in for their entire history....but you guys are new to it so you jump the gun, blame players, coaches and front office officials for how poorly the team is playing

you call for the coaches head, the running backs job.......you want to draft a QB in the first round when just last season you were bumming because you thought for sure that they would draft a QB in the first round

you know the last time you guys drafted an offensive lineman in the first round? 2000......since then you guys havent spent any higher than a 3rd round pick on a lineman

you guys have a good defense because the 4 of the last 5 first round picks have been defensive players not to mention the free agents you guys bring in......but almost no attention has been paid to the offensive line

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[quote=CantonLegend;626335]because they had good offensive lines......players like barry sanders dont come around all the time.....[B]all of the other players you mentioned played on good teams with good offensive lines[/B] regardless of whatever garbage you think you pointed out.....

is LT a hall of famer without his offensive line and fullback? [B]is emmit smith the all time leading rusher without he cowboys offensive line? NO.....they are not
[/B]
for some reason you think you are right about this but you arent....its so blatantly obvious that you know nothin about the offensive line and its making the rest of the redskins fans look bad



i keep citing last season because people continue to claim that he has been struggling for more than just this season.....read the thread dude

the fact is that portis is struggling because he is hurt and because the team is bad......not because he is bad

im telling you that you are blinded by the fact that your team is losing

but your too blind to see that as well

open your eyes..portis is not the problem......so what if he doesnt practice.....thats not a bad thing, especially if he can still produce on sunday.....its a bad thing if he doesnt practice and stinks on sundays.....but he doesnt

[B]why would you want your best running back and one of the highest paid players on the team to get hurt doing something as silly as running drills in practice when the only thing that matters is sundays?[/B][/quote]

1) you completely failed to appreciate the fact that the offensive lines for those players CHANGED - some years they had good lines, some years they did not. Some years Emmitt Smith ran behind mediocre offensive lines and he still got the job done.

What this means is that your original claim that the running game ALWAYS hinges ONLY on the offensive line was simplistic and mistaken. As usual, you see reality in terms of black-and-white (sometimes literally), when in fact reality consists of shades of gray.

2) what you fail to appreciate about Portis is that he has not brought it on Sundays this year. Saying that only Sundays matter just highlights Portis' deficiencies this year.

As always, you are too small of a person to admit when you are wrong.

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Zorn has said Portis is the starter when he comes back. I hope he changes his mind. Betts has looked good in both the Atlanta and Denver games.

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[url=http://dcprosportsreport.com/2009/11/16/portis-v-betts-what-the-redskins-should-do.html]Portis v. Betts: What the Redskins should do. | DC Pro Sports Report[/url]

Here is our take

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[quote=Lotus;626374]1) you completely failed to appreciate the fact that the offensive lines for those players CHANGED - some years they had good lines, some years they did not. Some years Emmitt Smith ran behind mediocre offensive lines and he still got the job done.[/quote]

lmao......emmitt played for the cowboys from 1990 to 2002.....every single one of those teams was a competitor....they won the division 6 of his 13 seasons there....they were a playoff team 8 of those years and they won the super bowl 3 times in that span

the cowboys were good because of their offensive line and they were consistant because of their offensive line......sure it changed......but not significantly enough to downgrade the run game....it was continuity that created the cowboys dynasty......

people like you probably think it was emmitt smith and troy aikman that made those cowboys teams great.....lol.....get real......they were both very average players on a well built team with a stellar offensive line......go look at their stats.....not one season stands out as exceptional but they did it over a long period of time because they had the offensive line in front of them to give them time and make big holes

[quote]What this means is that your original claim that the running game ALWAYS hinges ONLY on the offensive line was simplistic and mistaken. As usual, you see reality in terms of black-and-white (sometimes literally), when in fact reality consists of shades of gray.[/quote]

lol.....cant handle the truth? life is simple brother....either you get it or you dont.....whether you are black or white or shades of gray

[quote]2) what you fail to appreciate about Portis is that he has not brought it on Sundays this year. Saying that only Sundays matter just highlights Portis' deficiencies this year.[/quote]

blah blah blah.....the whole team stinks on sundays......not just portis.....and the rest of the team practices all week? whats their excuse?

and i wont take a personal shot at you like you did me.....good luck trying to prove me wrong again tho.....and black people are faster

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[quote=CantonLegend;626495]lmao......emmitt played for the cowboys from 1990 to 2002.....[B][B]every single one of those teams was a competitor....they won the division 6 of his 13 seasons there....they were a playoff team 8 of those years and they won the super bowl 3 times in that span
[/B]
the cowboys were good because of their offensive line and they were consistant because of their offensive line......sure it changed......but not significantly enough to downgrade the run game....[/B]it was continuity that created the cowboys dynasty......

people like you probably think it was emmitt smith and troy aikman that made those cowboys teams great.....lol.....get real......they were both very average players on a well built team with a stellar offensive line......go look at their stats.....not one season stands out as exceptional but they did it over a long period of time because they had the offensive line in front of them to give them time and make big holes



lol.....cant handle the truth? life is simple brother....either you get it or you dont.....whether you are black or white or shades of gray



blah blah blah.....the whole team stinks on sundays......not just portis.....and the rest of the team practices all week? whats their excuse?

[B]and i wont take a personal shot at you like you did me[/B].....good luck trying to prove me wrong again tho.....[B]and black people are faster[/B][/quote]

1) There you go with the unclear thinking again. The fact is that the Cowboys struggled on the offensive line in the late '90's. This is one reason why they weren't winning Super Bowls in that period. Yet Emmitt got it done. Once again you have lambasted me for not "getting" your point, with no self awareness on your part that you are dead wrong. Of course, as we all know here, you have proven to be incapable of admitting that you are wrong.

2) Actually you already have taken personal shots at me. Too late to try to disingenuously take the high road.

3) There you go again, making more racist comments as if we existed in the 19th century.

I often teach my students that racism is dumb. Your arguments are exhibit A now.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS
I dunno know guys but with Portis out the offense looked alot better.
Portis slows our offense down it seems. What do u guys think?

I've yet to see the improvement. We still have the same whopping 17 points.


+++++++++++++++

I don't get your point even if you take away the special team touch down they scored 20 pionts. I don't know where you learned math, but where I did 20 is more than 17......hunh?

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[quote=Lotus;626498]1) There you go with the unclear thinking again. The fact is that the Cowboys struggled on the offensive line in the late '90's. This is one reason why they weren't winning Super Bowls in that period. Yet Emmitt got it done. Once again you have lambasted me for not "getting" your point, with no self awareness on your part that you are dead wrong. Of course, as we all know here, you have proven to be incapable of admitting that you are wrong.

2) Actually you already have taken personal shots at me. Too late to try to disingenuously take the high road.

3) There you go again, making more racist comments as if we existed in the 19th century.

I often teach my students that racism is dumb. Your arguments are exhibit A now.[/quote]

do you teach your students to count too? cuz you clearly have no idea what portis actually means to your team

you might want to try another argument rather than just saying im wrong because you arent proving anything by saying that.....

and no matter what you say about how racist i am, it doesnt change the truth.....blacks are faster.....even tho this is a completely different thread....why dont you try to prove to me why you think they arent faster

oh wait.....im an ignorant racist so all my aruments are wrong....im too small to admit im wrong so you must be right? lol.....your passive aggressive take at trying to prove me wrong is completely off base on so many levels.....why dont you prove to me that you're the bigger man.....and walk away

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[quote=CantonLegend;626504]do you teach your students to count too? cuz you clearly have no idea what portis actually means to your team

you might want to try another argument rather than just saying im wrong because you arent proving anything by saying that.....

and no matter what you say about how racist i am, it doesnt change the truth.....blacks are faster.....even tho this is a completely different thread....why dont you try to prove to me why you think they arent faster

oh wait.....[B]im an ignorant racist so all my aruments are wrong[/B]....im too small to admit im wrong so you must be right? lol.....your passive aggressive take at trying to prove me wrong is completely off base on so many levels.....why dont you prove to me that you're the bigger man.....and walk away[/quote]

No, your arguments are wrong because your facts are wrong. Own your mistake.

Here at the Warpath we try to have intelligent discussions about football. We can't do that with people who make dumb arguments and then cannot admit that they are wrong. So you can count on continued grief from other people here.

You can also count on continued grief from me. Anyone who has any sense of history knows how destructive racism is within American society. Because of this, you can be certain that I will continue to dog you, RacistLegend.

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[quote=Lotus;626509]No, your arguments are wrong because you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to football.

Here at the Warpath we try to have intelligent discussions about football. We can't do that with people who make dumb arguments and then cannot admit that they are wrong. So you can count on continued grief from other people here.

You can also count on continued grief from me. Anyone who has any sense of history knows how destructive racism is within American society. Because of this, you can be certain that I will continue to dog you, RacistLegend.[/quote]

lol sticks and stones buddy

you're not going to offend me at all.....no matter what you say to me or how you say it......nobody else here takes things as seriously as you because why? FOOTBALL IS A GAME

nobody gives me grief.....nobody cares about what i have to say....i just spit my 2 cents and hope it catches someones eye.....you do the exact same and expect people to jump to your rescue when you cant back it up.....none of your posts have any helpful information on them and none of them have any sound arguments in them either

arguing with you is like arguing with my mother in law.....no matter how stupid it is....you just have to be right......even at the expense of looking goofy

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We just all need to relax here. I didnt sense any racism in these posts.. There is no racism on this board. That is the kind of garbage you see over at extremeskins, trust me on that guys.

I dont think anybody can deny that the offense has looked better with Portis out. I can't scientifically say why, but we can look at the stat sheets and see where the other backs have made more of a difference. Are they as good all around as Portis? Probably not. But Portis hasn't been healthy since last year, and he is showing his age and is in a decline...Portis has tons of carries and lots of total yardage, and at some point any back breaks down.

I think they could maximize what he has left by using him in a 50/50 type role like other teams do. But i dont see him personally going for that....

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[quote=CantonLegend;625983]the offensive line is always the reason for a good running game......ALWAYS.....

portis doesnt get the help from the offensive line that betts got.....he doesnt get the same defensive looks when he is in the game

some of you guys are no better than your teams owner.....you are completely blinded by the fact that your team is struggling this year.....clinton portis is easily your best player.....easily a top 5 running back in the league on a bottom 5 team in the league......you guys make me laugh[/quote]
Ahhh so you're a GM I take it?

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[quote=CantonLegend;626023].portis is still a top 5 back despite being injured and playing behind a terrible line, and terrible team[/quote]
Now who sounds like our owner?

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[quote=tryfuhl;626547]Now who sounds like our owner?[/quote]

Freeze!!! Put the crack pipe down! Back away from the monitor slowly.......7:38AM? and I see you still on your all night crack binge. SMH

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anyone who says CP is a top 5 back is clueless...you really cant think of more than 4 RBs who you would rather have?

CP is the 3rd best RB on his team.

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[quote=maroonandblack30;626562]anyone who says CP is a top 5 back is clueless...you really cant think of more than 4 RBs who you would rather have?

CP is the 3rd best RB on his team.[/quote]


You are a Jim Zorn fan. Why??? Portis is hurt, we need another stud to go along wiht Portis. We jsut need a good young runningback to boost the RB corps.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;626542]We just all need to relax here. I didnt sense any racism in these posts.. There is no racism on this board. That is the kind of garbage you see over at extremeskins, trust me on that guys.

I dont think anybody can deny that the offense has looked better with Portis out. I can't scientifically say why, but we can look at the stat sheets and see where the other backs have made more of a difference. Are they as good all around as Portis? Probably not. But Portis hasn't been healthy since last year, and he is showing his age and is in a decline...Portis has tons of carries and lots of total yardage, and at some point any back breaks down.

I think they could maximize what he has left by using him in a 50/50 type role like other teams do. But i dont see him personally going for that....[/quote]

I think a big reason the back-ups are running better than Portis is that they are actually practicing with the line while CP sits out of practice nursing injuries. Practicing with the line has given the back-ups a sense of timing the holes and the line has a sense of the backs timing in hitting those holes. CP just hasnt practiced enough to develop that sense of timing with the line and as a result his performance has suffered.

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[quote=irish;626583]I think a big reason the back-ups are running better than Portis is that they are actually practicing with the line while CP sits out of practice nursing injuries. Practicing with the line has given the back-ups a sense of timing the holes and the line has a sense of the backs timing in hitting those holes. CP just hasnt practiced enough to develop that sense of timing with the line and as a result his performance has suffered.[/quote]

i would agree, but Betts is missing practice now. It's a grueling job to be a smashmouth runningback. [B]Practices are gonna be missed.[/B] It makes it hard with the line itself in flux. It's just a down year for Portis, you don't get rid of a work horse that quickly. Betts has had his chances before and has fumbled them away. I am scared of what might happen. People are saying Portis misses practices Why???? Why, the same reason Betts is missing practices this week. Remember when he played in that preseason game and hurt his shoulder? People!!! don't think this is not a normal situtaion. Riggo drinking booze at the practice facility? Joey T needs to man up. Gibbs let Riggo get away with the same stuff. In the interview, Gibbs said he let him do what he wanted. Riggo had Kelvin Bryant and Joe Washington. Remember????

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Portis has never been much for practice even during his better seasons. More than anything he's just not 100% this year, he hasn't been from the start. Hopefully he can get those bone spurs cleaned up in the offseason and be back to the Portis of old, or close to it.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;626592]i would agree, but Betts is missing practice now. It's a grueling job to be a smashmouth runningback. [B]Practices are gonna be missed.[/B] It makes it hard with the line itself in flux. It's just a down year for Portis, you don't get rid of a work horse that quickly. Betts has had his chances before and has fumbled them away. I am scared of what might happen. People are saying Portis misses practices Why???? Why, the same reason Betts is missing practices this week. Remember when he played in that preseason game and hurt his shoulder? People!!! don't think this is not a normal situtaion. Riggo drinking booze at the practice facility? Joey T needs to man up. Gibbs let Riggo get away with the same stuff. In the interview, Gibbs said he let him do what he wanted. Riggo had Kelvin Bryant and Joe Washington. Remember????[/quote]

True, practices will be missed and Betts will miss some this week but he has practiced much more that CP this year. My point is that I cant remember the last time CP had a full week of practice. I know he's dinged and its a viscious circle where CP cant practice because he's dinged and he isnt productive because he cant practice. Practice is important for timing and right now CP just cant get enough reps to get his timing down.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;626564]You are a Jim Zorn fan. Why??? Portis is hurt, we need another stud to go along wiht Portis. We jsut need a good young runningback to boost the RB corps.[/quote]

Who said Im a Zorn fan? Are you basing that off of my avatar? So I guess that you are a parrot fan?

Im not a Zorn fan, Im a Skins fan.

In regards to Portis.....he needs to be gone, get the young stud to go along with Betts

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What you gonna do when Betts gets dinged and fatigued and has an off year? Get rid of Betts?

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[quote=maroonandblack30;626602]Who said Im a Zorn fan? Are you basing that off of my avatar? So I guess that you are a parrot fan? [/quote]

[B]Damn skippy!!![/B]

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Ultimately we gonna need Portis soon.

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For what? To insult the team and throw everybody under the bus when we are mathmatically eliminated from the playoffs in a few weeks?

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[quote=maroonandblack30;626562]anyone who says CP is a top 5 back is clueless...you really cant think of more than 4 RBs who you would rather have?

CP is the 3rd best RB on his team.[/quote]

the stats support it

this year he is injured.....last year brady was injured but was still considered a top QB in the league.....even tho portis is hurt he is still considered a top running back in this league

even if its not by the fans of his own team

anyone who thinks portis isnt a good back is delusional

ive read your opinions of portis over the season and its obvious you spear head things when it comes to portis hating.....right now everybody is upset so they grab on to every pessimistic view of whatever anybody wants to talk about....but that gets in the way of facts

some thread about how many backs are worse than portis? are you really using a season in which he is injured and your redskins stink to judge whether the running back that is basically asked to carry your team is still talented?

...amazing

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Heard Zorn this morning say that Portis will start when he comes back, but will be pulled for Betts if he's ineffective. Also, Zorn stated that Portis will not be allowed to come back until he completes a full week of practice.

If he sticks to his word, I'm fine with Portis starting again. With Levi Jones and Chad Rhinehart helping out the line, maybe CP can do something productive again.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;626604]What you gonna do when Betts gets dinged and fatigued and has an off year? Get rid of Betts?[/quote]

Its not about having an off year (at least in my opinion), Portis is done, he is a shell of what he was in Denver and in his first couple years here.

He will never be a premier RB in the NFL again.

Portis appears to be a lazy, G'd up wanna be superstar that can get away with anything he wants.

team cancer.

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[quote=CantonLegend;626625]the stats support it

this year he is injured.....last year brady was injured but was still considered a top QB in the league.....even tho portis is hurt he is still considered a top running back in this league

even if its not by the fans of his own team

anyone who thinks portis isnt a good back is delusional

ive read your opinions of portis over the season and its obvious you spear head things when it comes to portis hating.....right now everybody is upset so they grab on to every pessimistic view of whatever anybody wants to talk about....but that gets in the way of facts

some thread about how many backs are worse than portis? are you really using a season in which he is injured and your redskins stink to judge whether the running back that is basically asked to carry your team is still talented?

...amazing[/quote]

Once again...have you watched a single Redskins game this year?

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[quote=maroonandblack30;626646]Its not about having an off year (at least in my opinion), Portis is done, he is a shell of what he was in Denver and in his first couple years here.

He will never be a premier RB in the NFL again.

Portis appears to be a lazy, G'd up wanna be superstar that can get away with anything he wants.

team cancer.[/quote]

i think somebody said the same thing about kurt warner

somebody said somethin similar about bill belichick when he got kicked out of cleveland

probably said the same thing about brett favre

yea.....theres never been anybody in the league to bounce back after a down year....especially not anybody older than 27

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[quote=CantonLegend;626625]the stats support it

this year he is injured.....last year brady was injured but was still considered a top QB in the league.....even tho portis is hurt he is still considered a top running back in this league

even if its not by the fans of his own team

anyone who thinks portis isnt a good back is delusional

ive read your opinions of portis over the season and its obvious you spear head things when it comes to portis hating.....right now everybody is upset so they grab on to every pessimistic view of whatever anybody wants to talk about....[B]but that gets in the way of facts[/B]

some thread about how many backs are worse than portis? are you really using a season in which he is injured and your redskins stink to judge whether the running back that is basically asked to carry your team is still talented?

...amazing[/quote]

Im not hating...I don't think he is good, thats my observation from watching every game of his Redskins career. Just my opinion, but I think its shared by others with way more knowledge of the game.

Im not going to argue that he has put up good numbers in his career, I just think he is done being productive.

I don't get the whole "he is hurt" arguement....he has been hurt for the last 3 years....if he can't or won't prepare his body for an NFL season thats even more of an indication he should hang it up. Bottom line he just comes across as an entitled cry baby with a sub par work ethic....bad for the team.

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[quote=maroonandblack30;626647]Once again...have you watched a single Redskins game this year?[/quote]

have you?

how comfortable do you feel getting called out for not knowing the team you call your own?

you are a pessimist and look for the worst thing in everything....portis is in the prime of his career and you are letting a losing season get in the way of the truth

there are teams around the league that would love to have a quality back like clinton portis......but you're probably right.....portis is washed up at 27 years old and nearly 10000 career rushing yards

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[quote=CantonLegend;626660]i think somebody said the same thing about kurt warner

somebody said somethin similar about bill belichick when he got kicked out of cleveland

probably said the same thing about brett favre

yea.....theres never been anybody in the league to bounce back after a down year....especially not anybody older than 27[/quote]

QB is totally different position, one in which you dont
take nearly the physical punishment. Plus you don't hear about Warner or Farve missing practice or refusing to play in the preseason.

Belichick is a coach, how does that even compare?

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[quote=CantonLegend;626664]have you?

how comfortable do you feel getting called out for not knowing the team you call your own?

you are a pessimist and look for the worst thing in everything....portis is in the prime of his career and you are letting a losing season get in the way of the truth

there are teams around the league that would love to have a quality back like clinton portis......but you're probably right.....portis is washed up at 27 years old and nearly 10000 career rushing yards[/quote]

Still haven't answer the question....I question whether or not you have even seen him play this year.

But yes, I have watched every game/carry/yard of CP's career in DC

I am far from a pessimist....I see the good that Betts could do for the team if the organization stops cow towing to CP because he has a bloated contract.

he is 28 by the way, with a ton of injuries piling up, thats far from "in his prime" by NFL running back standards.

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canton legend - running backs endure alot of wear and tear. of course portis was a great top 5 back for awhile in this league and was by far our best offensive player for years. we know that.

but portis has over 2,000 carries now, injuries are stacking up, bone spurs dont just go away to my kowledge, and he rarely practices for years now.

when turner hits 2,000 carries i doubt he will be just as explosive as he is now. at 300 plus carries a year, turner will need more than 4 straight seasons of 300 plus carries before he is near portis' current wear and tear of 2,100 somethin carries.

lol, in 4 - 6 years do you think turner will still be a top 5 or 10 runningback in this league? add in turner will probably not even finish at least one of those years b/c of season ending injury.

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[quote=CantonLegend;626664]have you?

how comfortable do you feel getting called out for not knowing the team you call your own?

you are a pessimist and look for the worst thing in everything....portis is in the prime of his career and you are letting a losing season get in the way of the truth

there are teams around the league that would love to have a quality back like clinton portis......but you're probably right.....portis is washed up at 27 years old and nearly 10000 career rushing yards[/quote]

dude, lol, your not calling out anybody. your just making yourself look dumb and dumber.