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[quote=Mattyk;645733][URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/haynesworth-jacobs-fined-for-m.html"]Redskins Insider - Haynesworth, Jacobs fined for Monday's skirmish[/URL]

Fines for Jacobs & Al, but nothing for Hall. Again.

How does the bitch get away with it?[/quote]

hall did nothing to warrant a fine.

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Was Haynes-Worth it? Our defense got demolished last game (NYG) and he was in there. He had that sack that prevented a touchdown, but we still gave up a ton of points...

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[quote=ethat001;645753]Was Haynes-Worth it? Our defense got demolished last game (NYG) and he was in there. He had that sack that prevented a touchdown, but we still gave up a ton of points...[/quote]
Let the next D-coordinator determine that.........

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By David Elfin on Dec. 25, 2009 into Redskins 360
The 2009 Redskins can't even get through Christmas Day without controversy.

Albert Haynesworth, the team's highest-paid player, just left the facility after a heated discussion with coach Jim Zorn.

As his teammates warmed up before practice, Haynesworth and Zorn got into it on an adjacent field. Defensive coordinator Greg Blache finally walked over to try to play peacemaker, but Haynesworth soon walked into the building. Not long afterwards, the All-Pro defensive tackle drove away from Redskins Park.

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Why are they even practicing on christmas for? Oh i guess they are trying to beat dallas to save the coaching staffs jobs. Give the players the day off this season is thankfully over and we can get this team back on the winning track with coaches who have experience and championship pedigree. Let the young players play to get nfl game experience. Beating dallas proves nothing and all we do is move down in the draft order,so who cares now about winning anymore games this season. The giants game should that our players gave up after the gmen smashed us in the mouth. Albert in joy xmas with your kids while zorn think he is still the head coach.

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Yep Zorn sent him home. I say get rid of Zorn now before he tears up the whole team

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-redskins-haynesworth&prov=ap&type=lgns]Redskins' Haynesworth sent home from practice - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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Whoa. Big move for a coach that's not going to be there next year. Must've done something really atrocious. They are falling apart.

Hope we get a good draft pick and don't waste it on another LaRon Landry.

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Here's Jason Reids article on it.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/zorn-haynesworth-discipline-wa.html?hpid=artslot]Redskins Insider - Zorn: Haynesworth discipline 'was necessary'[/url]

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Al is heated because of losing and I don't blame him! This team should be way better than 4-10. Zorn is an idiot head coach, idk why he's still there anyway

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/25/AR2009122501780_2.html]Haynesworth sounds off on Blache, defense after being sent home - washingtonpost.com[/url]

Repost from other Haynesworth thread.

Zorn's in a no win situation here. He's doing the right thing, but his Brownie Points are no longer redeemable in Washington.

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Zorn is a puppet and I would guest that most of the coaching staff is gone in 2 weeks. Hang in there Big Al we will have a HC that knows how to win in the NFL real soon.

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The Redskins do have a lot of holes on the roster, particularly in the defensive secondary and on the offensive line, but getting the head coaching job here with the amount of talent on this roster has to be a really fantastic job.

Yes, there is a LOT of work to be done here, but many franchises couldn't amass this much defensive talent given three years to do so. Whoever is the next coach of the defense is going to be so impressed because wherever they come from...Pittsburgh, Baltimore, San Diego, Chicago, wherever...no one has this much talent on one side of the ball.

Add a creative analytical mind to the defensive side of the ball, and it would be scary to watch. With a little creativity, you could cover for the holes in the secondary with the fantastic talent in the front seven.

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[quote=skins89moss;645702]Great so you would rather bring in a convicted criminal who went to jail for numerous gun charges. That is why you are not ever going to be in a supervisor position because you are not a good judge of character.[/quote]

Johnson cleaned up his act and hasn't been in any trouble and cost way less than AH.

And your comment about me not being in a supervisor position is about the stupidest thing I've ever heard on Warpath. I run my own business so shut the hell up with that silly ass nonsense.

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[quote=skins89moss;645697]Yo how old were you when Dave Butz and Darrly Grant played? Do you remember Diron Talbert and Ron McDole? How about Duane Thomas when you were speaking about character issues on a another post.[/quote]

Talbert and McDole were playing in the early 70's. I was a little too young then. But I remember Grant and Butz very well. Coy Bacon use to smoke but it didn't hurt his stamina. Some guys are just natural athletes that way. AH is not that way. He needs to take his fitness a lot more serious then he does. We'll see next year.

I don't care about Duane Thomas cause he was a Cowboy.

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[quote=skinsfan69;645814]Johnson cleaned up his act and hasn't been in any trouble and cost way less than AH.

And your comment about me not being in a supervisor position is about the stupidest thing I've ever heard on Warpath. I run my own business so shut the hell up with that silly ass nonsense.[/quote]

While I dont agree with 69, to say that he's not supervisor material is stupid because I dont know him personally, so that was an unnecessary cheap shot.

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Question, do you think that Shannahan or Gruden and Allen ,will all accept this type of behavior from AH,late for meetings and practice and being out of shape?

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[quote=GTripp0012;645803]The Redskins do have a lot of holes on the roster, particularly in the defensive secondary and on the offensive line, but getting the head coaching job here with the amount of talent on this roster has to be a really fantastic job.

Yes, there is a LOT of work to be done here, but many franchises couldn't amass this much defensive talent given three years to do so. Whoever is the next coach of the defense is going to be so impressed because wherever they come from...Pittsburgh, Baltimore, San Diego, Chicago, wherever...no one has this much talent on one side of the ball.

Add a creative analytical mind to the defensive side of the ball, and it would be scary to watch. With a little creativity, you could cover for the holes in the secondary with the fantastic talent in the front seven.[/quote]
YOU ARE CORRECT!
AND with some decent coaching, this team will surprise some people next season!
HTTR

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[quote=Giantone;646019]Question, do you think that Shannahan or Gruden and Allen ,will all accept this type of behavior from AH,late for meetings and practice and being out of shape?[/quote]
nope. but all 3 of those guys know how to run a professional team

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[quote=dmek25;646023]nope. but all 3 of those guys know how to run a professional team[/quote]

OK so if AH did to them the things I mention(as he did to Zorn and Blache) and they send him home,what then?

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[quote=GTripp0012;645803]The Redskins do have a lot of holes on the roster, particularly in the defensive secondary and on the offensive line, but getting the head coaching job here with the amount of talent on this roster has to be a really fantastic job.

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So why so much trouble getting someone and keeping them?

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I wonder if Zorn will go back to Seattle or maybe he goes to the Browns to help out Quinn.

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[quote=Giantone;646019]Question, do you think that Shannahan or Gruden and Allen ,will all accept this type of behavior from AH,late for meetings and practice and being out of shape?[/quote]

Shanahan and Gruden both have the common sense to know talent when they see it, and how to utilize it as well. Haynesworths' character display here has been due mainly to the fact he's a disgruntled player trying to find his place on a defense that does not play to his strengths.

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[quote=Bigreds77;646047]I wonder if Zorn will go back to Seattle or[B] maybe he goes to the Browns to help out Quinn[/B].[/quote]

With Holmgren there, I could see that.

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[quote=Longtimefan;646051]Shanahan and Gruden both have the common sense to know talent when they see it, and how to utilize it as well. Haynesworths' character display here has been due mainly to the fact he's a disgruntled player trying to find his place on a defense that does not play to his strengths.[/quote]

That's not what I asked ,so becuase he's a "disgrntled player" that makes it ok?

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[quote=Giantone;646024]OK so if AH did to them the things I mention(as he did to Zorn and Blache) and they send him home,what then?[/quote]

If I am reading correctly, Haynesworth recognizes that he was late and should be punished, so that part is not a problem. However, Haynesworth seems to be complaining about unequal punishments - that is, other tardy players get let off of the hook. If what he says is true, who can blame him for complaining about unequal treatment?

Perhaps Haynesworth is justified and perhaps that problematic artifact of team culture will change with the new regime.

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[quote=Lotus;646112]If I am reading correctly, Haynesworth recognizes that he was late and should be punished, so that part is not a problem. However, Haynesworth seems to be complaining about unequal punishments - that is, other tardy players get let off of the hook. If what he says is true, who can blame him for complaining about unequal treatment?

Perhaps Haynesworth is justified and perhaps that problematic artifact of team culture will change with the new regime.[/quote]

Let's be honest here. He got sent home for running his mouth to the media. One thing I can't stand is guys crying to the media. If AH is frustrated about the defense then he should go to the coaches....oh yeah he did. And Blache said, "get out of my face and go sit down." lol. Let's see if gravy boy can man up and have a good game tonight. Funny how the defense has had some of it's best games when he's not on the field.

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Under no circumstances should a player start piping up like this. Regardless of whether Zorn leaves or not I find it deeply troubling that one of our highest-paid players is conducting himself like a non-professional. Then again, make no mistake that there is generally a negative relationship between a player's salary and the way they conduct themselves.

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dude phat al is the man and weve been listening to portis do this crap for years..you pay a man 100 mil he will become a free spoken diva in dc. thats the way it is