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CRedskinsRule 03-16-2010 08:58 AM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;674440]the first post in the thread does not appear to be being updated with each new pick.[/quote]
It's been updated along the way, so that the picks are shown on, or near the current page.

53Fan 03-16-2010 09:16 AM

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Congratulations halodoc! Best wishes for a fine healthy baby!

Slingin Sammy 33 03-16-2010 09:26 AM

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[B]Updated Draft Order & GM List: Updated 3/16, 9:25am[/B]

1 - Rams: diehardskin2982 - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
2 - Lions: CRedskinsRule - Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
3 - Bucs: redskins5044 - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
4 - 49ers: diehardskin2982 - Eric Berry S Tennesse
5 - Chiefs: WaldSkins - Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma St.
6 - Seahawks: redskins5044 - Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
7 - Browns: budw38 - Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
8 - Raiders: GTripp - Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
9 - Bills: Buster - Rolando McLain, ILB, Alabama
10 - Jaguars: 81forHOF - Derrick Morgan, DE Georgia Tech
11- Broncos:CRedskinsRule - Sean Witherspoon, OLB, Missouri
12 - Dolphins: tdSKINS1 - Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma St.
13 - Redskins: SkinnyTee - Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
14 - Seahawks: redskins5044 - Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
15 - Giants: SS33 - Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
16 - Titans: SS33 - Brandon Graham, DE, Michigan
17 - Redskins: SkinnyTee - Charles Brown, OT, USC
18 - Steelers: GTripp - on the clock
19 - Falcons: 81forHOF
20 - Texans: Buster
21 - Bengals: halodoc
22 - Patriots: halodoc
23 - Packers: WaldSkins
24 - Eagles: johno
25 - Ravens: over the mountain
26 - Cardinals: Mechanix544
27 - Cowboys: D'BOYZ
28 - Chargers: over the mountain
29 - Jets: Mechanix544
30 - Vikings: BHA
31 - Colts: SS33
32 - Saints: SS33

48 - Panthers: BHA
75 - Bears: GTripp

CRedskinsRule 03-16-2010 09:39 AM

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ITS_Peter_King RT@Adams_Heffer Charles Brown and Colt McCoy appear to be the front runners for the Redskins with their 2nd pick in the first round. Though a surprise may be coming from this tight lipped FO team ... Skins tough to predict this draft

Monkeydad 03-16-2010 09:58 AM

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Initially, I thought three rounds was on the light side for our mock draft...but now I've decided it's perfect. If we did 5 rounds or especially 7, we'd be finishing up around the time the REAL draft starts next month!

53Fan 03-16-2010 10:06 AM

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I'd say just take C. Brown or M. Pouncey. Tee knows we need a line.

SmootSmack 03-16-2010 10:09 AM

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Take Spiller

BigHairedAristocrat 03-16-2010 10:14 AM

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I'm on the spiller bandwagon for this pick, too. he's got too much value to pass on him here.

CRedskinsRule 03-16-2010 10:20 AM

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Adams_Heffer

Bears FO reportedly taking week vacation in Barbados, confident they will be back before the 75th pick in the draft. [URL="http://bit.ly/198pLf"]http://bit.ly/198pLf[/URL]

2 min ago via tweetwhat

53Fan 03-16-2010 10:20 AM

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Spiller is definitely a scoring threat but he's not an every down back and won't be running between the tackles. He has durability issues and is not willing to play through injuries from the reports I've read. But hey...speed kills. :)

Slingin Sammy 33 03-16-2010 10:26 AM

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With the 17th pick the Washington Redskins select Charles Brown, OT, USC

The Pittsburgh Steelers are on the clock with their pick due by 12:30pm

diehardskin2982 03-16-2010 10:28 AM

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charles Brown this high is a reach

53Fan 03-16-2010 10:29 AM

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Yeeeaaaaah! :headbange

53Fan 03-16-2010 10:32 AM

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[quote=diehardskin2982;674501]charles Brown this high is a reach[/quote]

A little. Walterfootball has him going at 23 to GB.

SmootSmack 03-16-2010 10:32 AM

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So Trent Williams and Charles Brown both in the 1st round? I can see them both drafted in the first round, just not by the same team.

BigHairedAristocrat 03-16-2010 10:33 AM

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[quote=diehardskin2982;674501]charles Brown this high is a reach[/quote]

I agree. This draft has been pretty OL heavy thus far. I don't think we'll see that on draft day. I'm not sure if some people just didnt do their research or perhaps they have been "projecting" the redskins needs onto other teams.

CRedskinsRule 03-16-2010 10:40 AM

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Jason_Lame_Canthearya

Is Skins FO seeing shades of Vinnie Cerrato, drafting same position twice in one round?

1 min ago via tweetthat

D'BOYZ 03-16-2010 10:41 AM

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OK this draft just got weird reaaally fast...first I don't see SF trading 2 first round picks to move up in the draft specially for a safety even if he's the best but two high players 13 and 17 for only 1 no team would do that unless is for a franchise QB.... but what's even more weird it's the Redskins taking two OT with those two picks never gonna happen... Allen would be cut in his first year as GM with those two picks

BigHairedAristocrat 03-16-2010 10:44 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;674505]So Trent Williams and Charles Brown both in the 1st round? I can see them both drafted in the first round, just not by the same team.[/quote]

And certainly not by us. Assuming a trade with SF happened and we got two 1st round picks, you have to know atleast one of them would be on a skill position player. I would have preferred we had gotten Spiller or Mays with that pick. Also, how the heck is Jason Pierre-Paul still on the board? he's got too much upside to fall this far, IMO. whoever lands him will be getting a steal. I should have picked up another team. waiting for my first pick is killing me.

CRedskinsRule 03-16-2010 10:45 AM

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[quote=D'BOYZ;674511]OK this draft just got weird reaaally fast...first I don't see SF trading 2 first round picks to move up in the draft specially for a safety even if he's the best but two high players 13 and 17 for only 1 no team would do that unless is for a franchise QB.... but what's even more weird it's the Redskins taking two OT with those two picks never gonna happen... Allen would be cut in his first year as GM with those two picks[/quote]
Our biggest holes are our two tackles, and the fan base would be cheering if we spent 2 picks in the first 2 rounds, with the trade we have one more pick in the top two. As for the trade, I could see if we threw in a solid player as well but this mock doesn't allow that possibility so it is a reasonable facsimile of it. BA will definitely be trying to trade down.

SmootSmack 03-16-2010 10:45 AM

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[quote=53Fan;674497]Spiller is definitely a scoring threat but he's not an every down back and won't be running between the tackles. He has durability issues and is not willing to play through injuries from the reports I've read. But hey...speed kills. :)[/quote]

I think you might be confusing Spiller and Best. Best has the durability issues, Spiller played basically the entire season with turf toe. Would be very pleased with either one, but I think especially thrilled with Spiller. We'll have CP/LJ to run between the tackles

53Fan 03-16-2010 10:45 AM

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This is just like the real draft. Disgruntled fans. :laughing2

BigHairedAristocrat 03-16-2010 10:46 AM

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[quote=D'BOYZ;674511]OK this draft just got weird reaaally fast...first I don't see SF trading 2 first round picks to move up in the draft specially for a safety even if he's the best but two high players 13 and 17 for only 1 no team would do that unless is for a franchise QB.... but what's even more weird it's the Redskins taking two OT with those two picks never gonna happen... Allen would be cut in his first year as GM with those two picks[/quote]

you are correct. this was obviously the case of two skins fans trying to pull of something they both wanted for the skins. it would be nice, but no way in hell SF trades up to get Berry.

BigHairedAristocrat 03-16-2010 10:48 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;674515]I think you might be confusing Spiller and Best. Best has the durability issues, Spiller played basically the entire season with turf toe. Would be very pleased with either one, but I think especially thrilled with Spiller. We'll have CP/LJ to run between the tackles[/quote]

You make a good point; however, shanahan's system is good at taking 2nd-4th round RBs and making them look like 1st round guys. but i agree, spiller would be hard to pass on, given a draft thats played out like this one.

53Fan 03-16-2010 10:54 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;674515]I think you might be confusing Spiller and Best. Best has the durability issues, Spiller played basically the entire season with turf toe. Would be very pleased with either one, but I think especially thrilled with Spiller. We'll have CP/LJ to run between the tackles[/quote]

I honestly can't say I've seen him play much. I'm just going by the reports I've read. But I agree with BHA that Shanahan is more likely to take a back outside the first round. I also believe he'd rather have someone who is good at running between the tackles. I'm not sure Spiller is, but I have no doubt you know more about him than I do. No sarcasm, I just don't know anymore than what I've read about him. But I do understand your point. He'd make a great change of pace back and he's a threat to score everytime he touches the ball.

[url=http://cdsdraft.com/profile.php?id=2211]C.J. Spiller, HB, Clemson[/url]

Lotus 03-16-2010 10:55 AM

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[quote=D'BOYZ;674511]OK this draft just got weird reaaally fast...first I don't see SF trading 2 first round picks to move up in the draft specially for a safety even if he's the best but two high players 13 and 17 for only 1 no team would do that unless is for a franchise QB.... but what's even more weird it's the Redskins taking two OT with those two picks never gonna happen... Allen would be cut in his first year as GM with those two picks[/quote]

Jacksonville used their first two picks on offensive tackles just last year. That scenario is not that weird.

I agree with you on SF not trading up to take a safety, though.

Slingin Sammy 33 03-16-2010 10:59 AM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;674518]You make a good point; however, shanahan's system is good at taking 2nd-4th round RBs and making them look like 1st round guys. but i agree, spiller would be hard to pass on, given a draft thats played out like this one.[/quote]Spiller was hard to pass on. Although Brown is a slight reach (see Sam Baker), OT was a position of great need for the Skins. The Skins also have the 49th pick in this mock and there should be a solid RB available at that pick who would not be a tremendous drop-off from Spiller. The drop-off at OT after Brown was much more dramatic.

SmootSmack 03-16-2010 11:02 AM

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[quote=53Fan;674522]I honestly can't say I've seen him play much. I'm just going by the reports I've read. But I agree with BHA that Shanahan is more likely to take a back outside the first round. I also believe he'd rather have someone who is good at running between the tackles. I'm not sure Spiller is, but I have no doubt you know more about him than I do. No sarcasm, I just don't know anymore than what I've read about him.

[url=http://cdsdraft.com/profile.php?id=2211]C.J. Spiller, HB, Clemson[/url][/quote]

I'm not expecting Spiller to get drafted by the Skins. The Redskins met with a lot of RBs during the combine and my guess is if they can trade into the 3rd round or late 2nd, that's where they will take a RB. The one guy I've heard mentioned a lot for the Skins is Joe McKnight (who when it comes to durability is the anti-Spiller). Also heard Gerhart, Tate, Hardesty, Best, mentioned.

D'BOYZ 03-16-2010 11:05 AM

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[quote=Lotus;674523]Jacksonville used their first two picks on offensive tackles just last year. That scenario is not that weird.

I agree with you on SF not trading up to take a safety, though.[/quote]

Jacksonville used a first and second last year not two first specially two high first round picks I don't doubt one would go to OT but the other would had gone to a skill position and maybe use your 2nd rounder in another tackle or even the 3rd rounder.

But like I said no way SF trades two first down picks with all the needs they have to grab a safety and they wont take a QB

53Fan 03-16-2010 11:12 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;674529]I'm not expecting Spiller to get drafted by the Skins. The Redskins met with a lot of RBs during the combine and my guess is if they can trade into the 3rd round or late 2nd, that's where they will take a RB. The one guy I've heard mentioned a lot for the Skins is Joe McKnight (who when it comes to durability is the anti-Spiller). [B]Also heard Gerhart, Tate, Hardesty, Best, mentioned[/B].[/quote]

Don't know much about McKnight but those are some pretty good backs you mentioned. I would be happy with any of them.

BigHairedAristocrat 03-16-2010 11:13 AM

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;674525]Spiller was hard to pass on. Although Brown is a slight reach (see Sam Baker), OT was a position of great need for the Skins. The Skins also have the 49th pick in this mock and there should be a solid RB available at that pick who would not be a tremendous drop-off from Spiller. The drop-off at OT after Brown was much more dramatic.[/quote]

so which of the two OTs you picked will be playing QB for us? ;)

diehardskin2982 03-16-2010 11:15 AM

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D'Boyz: so what I douched the pick! In reality this year more than any year there will be trades of players, while in this mock we cannot trade players. If the skins and the 49ers were to make that trade it would probrally include a well thought of player in addition to the picks.

CRedskinsRule 03-16-2010 11:27 AM

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Jason_Lame_Canthearya

Steelers FO may accidentally have been on same plane as Chicago FO. Reportedly Steelers FO will be back in time for their selection.

19 min ago via whytweetthis

D'BOYZ 03-16-2010 11:28 AM

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[quote=diehardskin2982;674543]D'Boyz: so what I douched the pick! In reality this year more than any year there will be trades of players, while in this mock we cannot trade players. If the skins and the 49ers were to make that trade it would probrally include a well thought of player in addition to the picks.[/quote]

Which Redskins player do you believe SF need or would take that would make them trade up in the draft? specially in one of the best draft classes according to "experts" in decades... change scenarios for a second imagine SF has the 4th pick and Washington has the 13 and 17 of the draft do u see Washington trading both their high first round picks to move up and get a safety? and what player would u realisticly take from SF to add in that trade... please don't say Crabtree, Davis, Gore or Davis because we all know SF wouldn't trade those 4 players.

Now if your trade had included Washigntons 2nd round pick I think it would had been more realistic but again not for a safety I just think you wanted to help Snyder a little lol and see your team have a fantasitc draft.

I don't see any player Washington has that they would be willing to trade worth those two picks. Maybe Campbell if SF thought it would be their QB for the future but that would mean Was would need to draft a QB in the first round.

53Fan 03-16-2010 11:32 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;674551]Jason_Lame_Canthearya

Steelers FO may accidentally have been on same plane as Chicago FO. Reportedly Steelers FO will be back in time for their selection.

19 min ago via whytweetthis[/quote]

It's no accident. They're working on a Cutler for Roethlisberger trade.

CRedskinsRule 03-16-2010 11:32 AM

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[quote=D'BOYZ;674553]Which Redskins player do you believe SF need or would take that would make them trade up in the draft? specially in one of the best draft classes according to "experts" in decades... change scenarios for a second imagine SF has the 4th pick and Washington has the 13 and 17 of the draft do u see Washington trading both their high first round picks to move up and get a safety? and what player would u realisticly take from SF to add in that trade... please don't say Crabtree, Davis, Gore or Davis because we all know SF wouldn't trade those 4 players.

Now if your trade had included Washigntons 2nd round pick I think it would had been more realistic but again not for a safety I just think you wanted to help Snyder a little lol and see your team have a fantasitc draft.

I don't see any player Washington has that they would be willing to trade worth those two picks. Maybe Campbell if SF thought it would be their QB for the future but that would mean Was would need to draft a QB in the first round.[/quote]

Trade details:
Washington receives SF picks 13, 17, and 49 in exchange for their picks 4 and 37.

By the trade value chart:
Skins picks(4, 37) = 2330
SF (13, 17, 49) = 2510
The draft numbers worked out slightly to SF favor, but I think you throw Carter in, and let him go back to SF and I think this would be a deal that could get done.

diehardskin2982 03-16-2010 11:36 AM

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It did include the 2nd rounder...

Lets say they moved up on a trade with the skins for JC plus the first. That solves the qb issue, SF could take that first and draft Okung. However if they did an analysis and felt that Berry is the type of talent that many are saying A-la Ed Reed type of talent then I would say yeah, take him- why? because he would solidfy my secondary for years to come.

CRedskinsRule 03-16-2010 11:39 AM

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[quote=diehardskin2982;674562]It did include the 2nd rounder...

Lets say they moved up on a trade with the skins for JC plus the first. That solves the qb issue, I would take that first and pick Okung. However if I did an analysis and felt that Berry is the type of talent that many are saying A-la Ed Reed type of talent then I would say yeah I take him- why because he would solidfy my secondary for years to come.[/quote]

Well, I don't think JC gets thrown in that deal because we would definitely be drafting a project qb, but SF has a need at DE, and would take Carter in a heartbeat.

D'BOYZ 03-16-2010 11:42 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;674559]Trade details:
Washington receives SF picks 13, 17, and 49 in exchange for their picks 4 and 37.

By the trade value chart:
Skins picks(4, 37) = 2330
SF (13, 17, 49) = 2510
The draft numbers worked out slightly to SF favor, but I think you throw Carter in, and let him go back to SF and I think this would be a deal that could get done.[/quote]


My point was Washington recieves 13, and 17 .... SF gets 4 and 37 and don't give their 49 pick... Again that move doesn't make a lot of sense for a Safety when SF has huge needs.

diehardskin2982 03-16-2010 11:42 AM

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A deal could be worked out

Your scenario DBoyz is not even part of the scenario that was played in this mock draft! SF's 3rd rounder was part of the mock scenario.


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