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freddyg12 04-01-2010 02:48 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=SmootSmack;680449]The training facilities have supposedly drastically improved. I don't know, I haven't been there in years. But I know a couple of key players from the 80s/early 90s who went on to other teams said they couldn't believe the difference between the Redskins organization from a facilities/management perspective and the teams they went onto. Point being it's been that way for a long, long time.

It didn't look awful when I saw it, but I also haven't been to a whole bunch of teams' headquarters.

But it sounds like it's much better now[/quote]

The eagles of the 80s always said that it was a negative environment & the facilities, especially the vet, were a dump. That's one of the things A. REid did, improve the facilities & of course, they got a new stadium.

I think the Skins of the 00s have the same rap, if indeed the facilities are sub par. I guess it's presumed that the danny would have the nicest stuff, but it's been said on here before how the scouting dept. was budgeted low. Now I'm hearing the club infrastructure (aside from Redskin One).

Maybe Allen is convincing him to re-allocate some of his funds from players & into the facilities & staff instead.

tryfuhl 04-01-2010 02:50 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;680439]It honestly makes no sense that Snyder would pay through the nose for over-the-hill veteran free agents, sign big name coaches to huge multi-year contracts, yet be so frugal with the scouting department. History has proven that the best teams are the ones that consistently draft really well. There's no salary cap for scouts, why not assemble the best scouting department money can buy?

On a side note, i was listening to espn980 and i doc walker said our training facilities were just horrible, and among the worst he's ever seen. he'd even seen colleges that have better equipment and facilities than we do. Not to hijack the thread but does anyone here (smoot perhaps) know what gives?[/quote]

from the pics that I've seen I've def seen better setups for the athletics gyms in colleges

tryfuhl 04-01-2010 02:51 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=SmootSmack;680457]I liked it...and that's all that matters

Bradford's was better though. Displayed a stronger arm[/quote]

someone, mcshay maybe, can't recall.. said that mccoy had all of his drops from under center, had more movement, etc.. wasn't nearly as controlled as bradford's

either way sounds like they both had great days

Dirtbag59 04-01-2010 02:58 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=SmootSmack;680937]Don't confuse that with "refuses to play for the Rams"[/quote]

That might be better in terms of making him a Redskin.

SmootSmack 04-01-2010 03:00 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=tryfuhl;680943]someone, mcshay maybe, can't recall.. said that mccoy had all of his drops from under center, had more movement, etc.. wasn't nearly as controlled as bradford's

either way sounds like they both had great days[/quote]

McCoy's pro day seem to showcase more of his athletic abilities overall, where as Bradford's seemed to be more designed to showcase that his shoulder is fine

SmootSmack 04-01-2010 03:00 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;680946]That might be better in terms of making him a Redskin.[/quote]

You lost me

tryfuhl 04-01-2010 03:01 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=SmootSmack;680949]You lost me[/quote]

If he strongly expresses to the Rams he doesn't want to go there they might pass over him was his thinking I believe.

Lotus 04-01-2010 03:04 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=SmootSmack;680937]Don't confuse that with "refuses to play for the Rams"[/quote]

We can always hope for that refusal, though.

Monkeydad 04-01-2010 03:10 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=tryfuhl;680950]If he strongly expresses to the Rams he doesn't want to go there they might pass over him was his thinking I believe.[/quote]

He'll be thrilled to be the #1 pick...[B]making #1 pick money[/B].

jdc65 04-01-2010 03:29 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
Bradford does have the look to be the best QB in the league for the next 12 years.

Lotus 04-01-2010 03:31 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=Buster;680957]He'll be thrilled to be the #1 pick...[B]making #1 pick money[/B].[/quote]

Does he prefer #1 money or to play for the Shanahans and still make a boatload of money?

BigHairedAristocrat 04-01-2010 04:05 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=Lotus;680972]Does he prefer #1 money or to play for the Shanahans and still make a boatload of money?[/quote]

exactly. besides, i'm sure Bradford would end up making close to the same amount as the #1 overall pick. Ryan Matthews was drafted 3rd and got #1 money.

Besides, if you think long-term, Bradford's career would likely be severely stunted in St Louis. His rookie contract might be awesome, but the chances he'd ever play well enough to get a great contract elsewhere would be slim. On the other hand, if he came to the Skins, he might make a little less money off of his rookie deal, but he'd have a greater chance of turning into a true franchise QB under the Shanahans. Within 4-5 years, he'd be signing a contract that, due to inflation, would likely surpass whatever Manning gets in his next extension.

There aren't any other teams I can think of in this leage that lack a franchise QB who have coaches on staff who've proven they can develop franchise QBs. Now, i've gone on record saying I don't really like any of the QBs in this years draft all that much. However, if I were Sam Bradford or Jimmy Clausen, I'd be selling my butt off to the Skins to make them either trade up to get me (Bradford) or take me at 4 (Clausen).

Dirtbag59 04-01-2010 05:22 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;680989]exactly. besides, i'm sure Bradford would end up making close to the same amount as the #1 overall pick. Ryan Matthews was drafted 3rd and got #1 money.
[/quote]

Who's Ryan Matthews?

SmootSmack 04-01-2010 05:25 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=tryfuhl;680950]If he strongly expresses to the Rams he doesn't want to go there they might pass over him was his thinking I believe.[/quote]

He's not refusing to play for or sign with the Rams though. He told us today that's all BS. The chance to play for the Redskins? Sure it'd be exciting, tradition, Shanahan, parents are big fans, etc. But if the Rams take him he'd be thrilled and happy to play for them.

SmootSmack 04-01-2010 05:25 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;681027]Who's Ryan Matthews?[/quote]

Clearly he meant Shane Matthews

mlmdub130 04-01-2010 05:32 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=jdc65;680971]Bradford does have the look to be the[B] best QB in the league for the next 12 years[/B].[/quote]

please explain

Lotus 04-01-2010 06:45 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=SmootSmack;681030]He's not refusing to play for or sign with the Rams though. He told us today that's all BS. The chance to play for the Redskins? Sure it'd be exciting, tradition, Shanahan, parents are big fans, etc. But if the Rams take him he'd be thrilled and happy to play for them.[/quote]

Damn.

jdc65 04-01-2010 07:21 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
Well it is a very subjective statement, and it would depend on where and for who he plays.
Playing in a major football conference; Big 12, and a major college program; Oklahoma, his 2 full seasons were ridiculous. His fresh & soph stats: 565/824 for 68.5%; comp%, 7,841 yds, 86 TDs, 16 Int, 178.68 QB rating, and a Heisman Trophy. He was poised to have his best year yet before injury.
His Pro-Day brought comments like "Best since Aikman"-Gil Brandt: "Best Pro-Day I've seen in 6 years"-Mike Mayock: "He killed it"-Todd McShay among many others, but those 3 are well respected NFL analysts.
He has incredible accuracy and intelligence, a legit NFL arm, quick release, and good decision making skills, according to multiple scouts. He has all the tools you would look for in a 'Franchise QB'.
Past performance is no guarantee, but with the NFL adopting more of a spread type passing game which fits Bradford's style, I think he has as good a chance as anyone to the best QB in the next decade.

mlmdub130 04-01-2010 10:58 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=jdc65;681051]Well it is a very subjective statement, and it would depend on where and for who he plays.
Playing in a major football conference; Big 12, and a major college program; Oklahoma, his 2 full seasons were ridiculous. His fresh & soph stats: 565/824 for 68.5%; comp%, 7,841 yds, 86 TDs, 16 Int, 178.68 QB rating, and a Heisman Trophy. He was poised to have his best year yet before injury.
His Pro-Day brought comments like "Best since Aikman"-Gil Brandt: "Best Pro-Day I've seen in 6 years"-Mike Mayock: "He killed it"-Todd McShay among many others, but those 3 are well respected NFL analysts.
He has incredible accuracy and intelligence, a legit NFL arm, quick release, and good decision making skills, according to multiple scouts. He has all the tools you would look for in a 'Franchise QB'.
Past performance is no guarantee, but with the NFL adopting more of a spread type passing game which fits Bradford's style, I think he has as good a chance as anyone to the best QB in the next decade.[/quote]

i can't remeber what thread it was in any help would be appreciated, but there was a link to an article that had sports journalist's qoutes leaving the players names blank to see if you could guess the players names and half of the quotes were about jamarcus russell, and they are all along the same lines as the qoutes you have above. they all get hyped coming out of college but when it comes down to it there is no way to predict how any one player will adapt to the nfl after leaving college. just look at ryan leaf and tom brady. stats are what they are, numbers, results are what mean something

MTK 04-02-2010 08:11 AM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=SmootSmack;681030][B]He's not refusing to play for or sign with the Rams though. He told us today that's all BS.[/B] The chance to play for the Redskins? Sure it'd be exciting, tradition, Shanahan, parents are big fans, etc. But if the Rams take him he'd be thrilled and happy to play for them.[/quote]

Seems like that was just a scenario someone presented in the media and everyone just ran with it. He doesn't seem like that kind of guy to me.

BigHairedAristocrat 04-02-2010 09:54 AM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;681027]Who's Ryan Matthews?[/quote]

Sorry, meant Matthew Ryan.

tryfuhl 04-02-2010 11:24 AM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=SmootSmack;681030]He's not refusing to play for or sign with the Rams though. He told us today that's all BS. The chance to play for the Redskins? Sure it'd be exciting, tradition, Shanahan, parents are big fans, etc. But if the Rams take him he'd be thrilled and happy to play for them.[/quote]

Yeah I saw him answer that stuff on NFLN. Just what that guy was thinking I guess.

I'm sure he has a preference but I can't see him holding out for forever, only time can tell.

Ruhskins 04-02-2010 04:26 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=tryfuhl;681266]Yeah I saw him answer that stuff on NFLN. Just what that guy was thinking I guess.

I'm sure he has a preference but I can't see him holding out for forever, only time can tell.[/quote]

For the people that keep saying Bradford has a preference to play in DC...

@ [URL="http://twitter.com/dcsportsbog"]dcsportsbog [/URL]

Sam Bradford to Rachel Nichols on speculation he'd prefer D.C. over St. Louis: "I've never said anything even remotely close to that."

tryfuhl 04-02-2010 04:47 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
Yeah he's been facing a lot of those questions. Basically even if he does have a strong preference he's not going to say it, at least not now.

Dirtbag59 04-02-2010 04:50 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=tryfuhl;681526]Yeah he's been facing a lot of those questions. Basically even if he does have a strong preference he's not going to say it, at least not now.[/quote]

Lol on the other hand, Shanahan has a strong preference for everyone. Portis, Johnson, Parker, Big Mike, Heyer, Bradford, Tebow, Clausen. Is there anyone Shanahan doesn't like?

jdc65 04-02-2010 09:12 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
I agree; QB is a crapshoot, and if the Skins get Bradford and he busts? The Shanahan era will also bust here.
Still, the thought that we might have an 'elite' QB here with an 'elite' Head Coach and a progressive Offensive Co-ordinator is an enticing proposition. For me personally, I would much rather have Bradford/Saffold then Okung/McCoy.

Gtothearry 04-02-2010 10:00 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
Anyone read the article on Yahoo sports? [url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AtS4Cw.dMwWOy5F7IFnfQpNDubYF?slug=tsn-fivemovesthatshouldb]Five moves that should be made before the NFL draft - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

I would be pissed if we gave up that much to move 3 spots. I can understand a flop of picks this year and a flop of picks next year. However, I can't see giving them our first round pick next year for 3 spots.

"Besides, the Redskins never have been shy about dumping draft picks. So why not take the 2011 first-round selection, package it with a failed free-agent signing (or two) from past years, and offer a flip-flop to St. Louis?"

Dirtbag59 04-02-2010 11:54 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=Mattyk;680401]He drafted Clady in the 1st a few years ago, I'm sure he understands the importance of talent on the OL.[/quote]

At the same time he draft Cutler two years before he got Clady. If he likes Clausen enough to take him at 4 then I doubt he'll have any bones about passing up a top tackle prospect.

[quote=jdc65;681619]I agree; QB is a crapshoot, and if the Skins get Bradford and he busts? The Shanahan era will also bust here.
Still, the thought that we might have an 'elite' QB here with an 'elite' Head Coach and a progressive Offensive Co-ordinator is an enticing proposition. For me personally, I would much rather have Bradford/Saffold then Okung/McCoy.[/quote]

I looked at the profiles of all the QB's taken in the first since 2003. There is no way of telling what you're going to get. A competent offensive coaching staff is probably your best chance of success along with a solid work ethic.

tryfuhl 04-03-2010 01:05 AM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=Gtothearry;681629]Anyone read the article on Yahoo sports? [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AtS4Cw.dMwWOy5F7IFnfQpNDubYF?slug=tsn-fivemovesthatshouldb"]Five moves that should be made before the NFL draft - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/URL]

I would be pissed if we gave up that much to move 3 spots. I can understand a flop of picks this year and a flop of picks next year. However, I can't see giving them our first round pick next year for 3 spots.

"Besides, the Redskins never have been shy about dumping draft picks. So why not take the 2011 first-round selection, package it with a failed free-agent signing (or two) from past years, and offer a flip-flop to St. Louis?"[/quote]
Yeah the one written by Florio for SportingNews? lol

as if suddenly he's an evaluator instead of a reporter

CultBrennan59 04-03-2010 01:19 AM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
So, I was listening to NFL live today, and they were talking about what I'm sure has been discussed in this thread already about how the St. Louis dispatch reported that Bradford isn't going to sign a pre-draft contract, and it could be influenced by what Bradford's been hearing from other teams..The NFL live staff all said maybe a team that picks fourth like I don't know,... Washington?

My point is I think that the more little reports that come out like this, especially that Bradford isn't going to pull a stafford and sign a contract before the draft, tells me that the chances of the rams picking Bradford go down little by little the more reports that come out.

I say when all is said and done, Shanahan, BA, and Snyder will all say "This is Our guy, and We have to have him...we'll do anything to get him" I say the only way I believe Sam Bradford isn't a skin is when we officially sign our draft pick at number 4. I think even if the Rams take him at number 1 overall, we'll pull a trade for him. I believe that when all is said and done, Sam Bradford will most likely be a Redskin.

tryfuhl 04-03-2010 01:21 AM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=jdc65;681619]I agree; QB is a crapshoot, and if the Skins get Bradford and he busts? The Shanahan era will also bust here.
Still, the thought that we might have an 'elite' QB here with an 'elite' Head Coach and a progressive Offensive Co-ordinator is an enticing proposition. For me personally, I would much rather have Bradford/Saffold then Okung/McCoy.[/quote]
1 draft QB ain't gonna kill you

don't have to start rookie year

if he's still not the best option he gets pushed back.. sucks as far as pay goes but yeah

tryfuhl 04-03-2010 01:22 AM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
strong gut feeling cult, we'll see

CRedskinsRule 04-03-2010 09:38 AM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;681659]So, I was listening to NFL live today, and they were talking about what I'm sure has been discussed in this thread already about how the St. Louis dispatch reported that Bradford isn't going to sign a pre-draft contract, and it could be influenced by what Bradford's been hearing from other teams..The NFL live staff all said maybe a team that picks fourth like I don't know,... Washington?

My point is I think that the more little reports that come out like this, especially that Bradford isn't going to pull a stafford and sign a contract before the draft, tells me that the chances of the rams picking Bradford go down little by little the more reports that come out.

[B]I say when all is said and done, Shanahan, BA, and Snyder will all say "This is Our guy, and We have to have him...we'll do anything to get him"[/B] I say the only way I believe Sam Bradford isn't a skin is when we officially sign our draft pick at number 4. I think even if the Rams take him at number 1 overall, we'll pull a trade for him. I believe that when all is said and done, Sam Bradford will most likely be a Redskin.[/quote]
Actually, from what I've seen of both Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan, I don't think they buy into the "this is our guy we have to have him" philosophy. They seem to believe in getting who is available and building a team. I didn't look, but does anyone know whether BA or MS has ever done a trade up and sacrifice future picks?

[SIZE="1"]April 22nd yet?[/SIZE]

Lotus 04-03-2010 09:54 AM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;681678]Actually, from what I've seen of both Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan, I don't think they buy into the "this is our guy we have to have him" philosophy. They seem to believe in getting who is available and building a team. [B]I didn't look, but does anyone know whether BA or MS has ever done a trade up and sacrifice future picks?[/B]

[SIZE="1"]April 22nd yet?[/SIZE][/quote]

They didn't sacrifice much but the Broncos traded up to take Cutler.
[url=http://cbs4denver.com/sports/Colorado.News.Denver.2.548902.html]Broncos Trade For 11th Pick, Draft Cutler - cbs4denver.com[/url]

CRedskinsRule 04-03-2010 11:45 AM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=Lotus;681684]They didn't sacrifice much but the Broncos traded up to take Cutler.
[url=http://cbs4denver.com/sports/Colorado.News.Denver.2.548902.html]Broncos Trade For 11th Pick, Draft Cutler - cbs4denver.com[/url][/quote]

Thanks Lotus, still they traded 1st's and a pick they had acquired from someone else. I find it hard to think they would trade up because, as Shanahan pointed out, he hasn't drafted this high in a long time, if ever. He can get an impact player at 4th overall, and I assume that's what he will do.

But if I am wrong, and he trades up, as long as it's not Herschel Walker style, I will be ok with that.

SBXVII 04-03-2010 11:56 AM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
Here's a pretty interesting article...

[url=http://www.realgmfootball.com/src_wiretap_archives/16495/20100402/interview_with_the_scout_part_ii/]RealGM Football: Wiretap Archives: Interview With The Scout, Part II[/url]

[QUOTE]Jeff Risdon: After his strong pro day, it’s a given that Sam Bradford will be taken #1 overall. I’m not sold at all on Bradford and I wonder what your opinion of him going #1 overall might be?

Scout: We’re damn glad it isn’t us picking there. Look, Sam Bradford might wind up being a hell of a quarterback, but I wouldn’t touch him at #1. The last two times he got hit, his shoulder got hurt. He doesn’t do us any good if he can’t stay on the field. That’s why they need a QB in the first place, because Marc Bulger couldn’t take the hits anymore.


Read more: [url=http://www.realgmfootball.com/src_wiretap_archives/16495/20100402/interview_with_the_scout_part_ii/#ixzz0k3MCtiOz]RealGM Football: Wiretap Archives: Interview With The Scout, Part II[/url]



Read more: [url=http://www.realgmfootball.com/src_wiretap_archives/16495/20100402/interview_with_the_scout_part_ii/#ixzz0k3MCuiD7]RealGM Football: Wiretap Archives: Interview With The Scout, Part II[/url]
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[QUOTE]JR: Aside from Tim Tebow, the player I get asked more about than any other is Jimmy Clausen. I know you’ve scouted him extensively.

Scout: Yeah I have. I’ve seen every snap he took and a lot of them more than a few times. The thing about him is that kid just loves football and it’s his whole life. All these people talk about him being this or being that, and they sure as hell haven’t ever spent time with him. Because that kid is all about making himself the best NFL quarterback, and he’s got the physical ability to do it.

Read more: [url=http://www.realgmfootball.com/src_wiretap_archives/16495/20100402/interview_with_the_scout_part_ii/#ixzz0k3MOHrJ5]RealGM Football: Wiretap Archives: Interview With The Scout, Part II[/url]



Read more: [url=http://www.realgmfootball.com/src_wiretap_archives/16495/20100402/interview_with_the_scout_part_ii/#ixzz0k3MOIc1s]RealGM Football: Wiretap Archives: Interview With The Scout, Part II[/url]
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SBXVII 04-03-2010 11:59 AM

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Again they were still talking about Clausen....

[QUOTE]JR: But will he be successful?

Scout: I really think so. Look, he’s got some warts. That kid was a world class prick when he got there, but he figured it out and grew up. You could really see it over the last year. They ran an NFL offense and (Clausen) made reads and drops that none of the other guys have even thought about. He just anticipates routes so well. Now would I like to see him gun it a little harder sometimes, yeah, sure. But for my money this kid is the surest bet in this draft (at QB).

Read more: [url=http://www.realgmfootball.com/src_wiretap_archives/16495/20100402/interview_with_the_scout_part_ii/#ixzz0k3MvPnMO]RealGM Football: Wiretap Archives: Interview With The Scout, Part II[/url]



Read more: [url=http://www.realgmfootball.com/src_wiretap_archives/16495/20100402/interview_with_the_scout_part_ii/#ixzz0k3MvQYAR]RealGM Football: Wiretap Archives: Interview With The Scout, Part II[/url]
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To be honest I like Bradford but this info really makes me feel comfortable if we pick up Clausen.

Lotus 04-03-2010 12:29 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;681711]Thanks Lotus, still they traded 1st's and a pick they had acquired from someone else. I find it hard to think they would trade up because, as Shanahan pointed out, he hasn't drafted this high in a long time, if ever. He can get an impact player at 4th overall, and I assume that's what he will do.

But if I am wrong, and he trades up, as long as it's not Herschel Walker style, I will be ok with that.[/quote]

Agreed. I've argued elsewhere that the difference between Bradford and Clausen may not seem to merit a sell-the-farm trade for ShanAllen, should they be QB-smitten. And ShanAllen are smart enough to realize that just nabbing Okung without selling the farm is a good idea.

I may be proven wrong but I don't think ShanAllen are going to trade up unless the Rams make it inviting.

CultBrennan59 04-04-2010 10:38 AM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/04/rams-waiting-for-tremendous-offer/]Rams waiting for "tremendous offer" | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

hmmm...

Dirtbag59 04-04-2010 01:57 PM

Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft
 
Does this scouting report look familair to anyone?:
[quote]Strengths: Is as good as it gets from an intangibles standpoint. Is an outstanding leader  both in terms of vocally and by example. An extremely hard worker  on the field, in the classroom and in the weight room. Is the most cerebral quarterback in this class. Has an outstanding feel for the game, makes few mistakes and understands the importance of ball security. Is one of the most competitive prospects in this class. A "gym-rat" type that just loves playing the game. Has sound mechanics. Delivery is quick and his release point is high. Is a tall QB that rarely has a ball batted down. Does an excellent job of finding throwing windows. Is at his best on short-to-intermediate routes. Has excellent timing and touch. Displays outstanding field vision. Understands how to make a pre-snap read and does a great job of picking up the blitz. Will make his progression reads, shows patience in the pocket and also does a good job of finding open receivers on the move after the original play has broken down. Has very good mobility. Shows quick feet and is fluid. Has a terrific pocket presence. Shows good balance and body control, especially for a taller athlete. Is a threat to run. Doesn't possess Mike Vick's type of explosiveness but has above average speed. Reminds us of a young Brett Favre -- shows some elusiveness and a lot of toughness as a runner. Good vision and a great feel for where the first down markers are. Is mechanically sound and accurate when throwing on the run.

Weaknesses: Arm strength is adequate but not good. Still needs to improve his overall bulk and strength. He can make most of the NFL throws but won't be able to fit the ball into tight spots that many starting NFL quarterbacks can. Very similar to Chad Pennington (Jets) in this area. If there's one facet of his accuracy that is inconsistent it is the deep ball. Ball occasionally will sail and he'll need to improve his timing in order to be successful throwing downfield in the NFL. He spent most of his time in the shotgun and in a spread offense. He will need to learn to read defenses while dropping from under center. He also will need to prove that he's not a "system QB", as he played in an offense that was wide-open and made a lot of the reads very easy for him.
[/quote]

I love Bradford as a prospect, and I'll be the first to say everyones different but I think we'd be much better off with Clausen. If anything this could easily be a 2004 draft situation where both QB's are good but technically the number 2 prospect is better.

Highlight below;
[COLOR="White"]This is the draft profile for Alex Smith back in 2005[/COLOR]


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