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[quote=SBXVII;682130]I did this once before and I'll do it again.....

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/stats/headtohead?player1=MCN017517&player2=CAM375235&player3=null&player4=null&position=quarterback&playerOne=Donovan+McNabb&playerTwo=Jason+Campbell&playerThree=Select+a+Player...&playerFour=Select+a+Player"]NFL - Head to Head Stats[/URL]...

McNabbs stats are not that much better especially with a better OL.[/quote]

look past just those basic stats

[url=http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=QB&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1]ProFootballFocus.com - By Position[/url]

Philly wasn't so hot at pass blocking anyways.. they were a good run blocking team, but McNabb took quite a few sacks and were ranked in the 20s as well

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So JC is headed to Buffalo? That's still being mentioned on ESPNRADIO

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And for all the pundits out there fawning over Kolb, he's thrown a grand total of 130 passes.

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I love how someone said that they're were 99% sure we wouldn't get mcnabb.

that 1 % is huge now.

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[quote=GMScud;682146]I must say this is very reminiscent of a Snyder move. Giving up a high draft pick for a big name vet past his prime.

McNabb notoriously underthrows receivers and can't create with his feet anymore. In fact I'd argue that JC is more mobile that DM right now. Unless that line gets a ton better, we've come nowhere with this. I wonder what all the lovers would be saying if it was Cerrato who made this same move?

I'm still undecided, but I'm leaning towards not really liking this, especially since we'll probably give him a lucrative extension as well. With this move, I now forsee at least a few current players traded before the draft.[/quote]
McNabb doesn't need Vick speed. He just needs to be able to extend the freaking play, run bootlegs, and scramble when he has to. Everyone and their mom knows Fat Andy likes to pass in excess and keep his QB in the pocket.

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[quote=SBXVII;682122]Holey Crap! I don't look at it today and Bam. I'm not happy. I'm not a fan of McNoodle.

Any chance this is the beginning of a trade with the Rams? Especially since they were interested in McNabb anyway?[/quote]

We're getting older by the minute, Methuselah will be coming in next week.

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Or could we be about to make a deal , move back some and draft a lineman in the first and maybe a young qb later on for mcnabb to teach?

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Hey Guys just saw this on NFL Network GREAT News for u Guys I can't belive one guyu here can complain about getting McNabb who at least has 4 more good years left of him for a 2nd round pick that was a great move and like some say now you focus on OT and you automaticly have a pretty good offense.

Now you guys have to mark two games next season Philly at Was and Was at philly both games are going to be really intense.

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I am not a fan of this move but I guess it is a wait and see type deal. I feel like we are back to the mentality that we are one player away from being a SB contender which is so untrue. I am disappointed.

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Snyder finally got out of his duct tape.
:vomit:

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[quote=GMScud;682146]I must say this is very reminiscent of a Snyder move. Giving up a high draft pick for a big name vet past his prime.

McNabb notoriously underthrows receivers and can't create with his feet anymore. In fact I'd argue that JC is more mobile that DM right now. Unless that line gets a ton better, we've come nowhere with this. I wonder what all the lovers would be saying if it was Cerrato who made this same move?

I'm still undecided, but I'm leaning towards not really liking this, especially since we'll probably give him a lucrative extension as well. With this move, I now forsee at least a few current players traded before the draft.[/quote]

Well a Snyder/Cerrato would have been us giving up our first rounder.

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[quote=GTripp0012;682134]In 2009 DVOA, Romo was 7th, Eli was 11th, Kolb (who barely qualified) was 16th, and McNabb was 20th. Campbell was 25th.

We could argue all day whether McNabb or Kolb is the better 2010 QB, but the team that had them both thinks Kolb is. We think McNabb is.[/quote]
We may think that Kolb is as well, but if they're enamored then it probably isn't worth us giving it up. Plus we probably want a veteran to lead us into the next "era"

People put value on potential play.. we've seen it before.. kind of like Favre/Rodgers just because of different reasons

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;682136]hmmm wonder if we are cosidering trading him to the Rams and work a deal for the #1 pick? could this be a possiblility[/quote]

This is what I actually think is going to happen. Everyone is getting their panties in a bunch about now having him but the Rams were interested also. They just couldn't get the job done. We send McNabb and our 4th round pick and I bet we get the #1 overall.

Trade JC for a #2 and were right back in it with an OL.

I don't know maybe it's just me.

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;682136]hmmm wonder if we are cosidering trading him to the Rams and work a deal for the #1 pick? could this be a possiblility[/quote]

I would love it, but at this point that would almost never happen. If we wanted to swing a trade with the Rams and take Bradford, we definitely have the resources to have done that otherwise. I see now why we have brought in all of those veteran RB's.

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[quote=44Deezel;682144]This has backfire written all over it. Stupid move.[/quote]

Well, weren't you one of the people that hated JC no matter what?

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[quote=Ruhskins;682165]Well a Snyder/Cerrato would have been us giving up our first rounder.[/quote]

hahaha that made me laugh

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[quote=12thMan;682157]And for all the pundits out there fawning over Kolb, he's thrown a grand total of 130 passes.[/quote]The relevant question though is how many passes MORE will he throw compared to McNabb.

If McNabb lasts longer here than Kolb does in Philly, we probably end up winning this trade. In all other scenarios, we probably lose it.

The gamble is that we can get better production from the 33.5 year old than they can get from their 26.5 year old. It's a gamble that we'll lose most of the time. But you only have to win it once, I suppose.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;682164]Snyder finally got out of his duct tape.
:vomit:[/quote]


LOL this is some funny stuff. :)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;682156]So JC is headed to Buffalo? That's still being mentioned on ESPNRADIO[/quote]

Why would ANY team give us anything major for Campbell now. Maybe before we could say oh, we will just keep him. Now, if we don't trade him... wow,

:vomit:

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I don't get the logic of some not wanting to bring McNabb here, but wanting us to draft a rookie that wouldn't have an impact doesn't make sense to me.

The fact remains, there will be quarterbacks available in the draft from now until eternity.

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[quote=Mattyk;682151]So he's missed 4 games the last 3 seasons... Sorry but I don't see where there's a problem with injuries.[/quote]

So he's just submitted himself to be a safe passer now? Injuries/age has impacted his game in my opinion.

So you seriously thing he's worth the 4th pick in the 2nd round, and lets face it, possible a high 3rd? That's quality picks there, possible starting OL or other potential needs...
Heck what if he only stays for a year?!?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;682173]Why would ANY team give us anything major for Campbell now. Maybe before we could say oh, we will just keep him. Now, if we don't trade him... wow,

:vomit:[/quote]

Now, if we don't trade him... WE HAVE THE BEST BACK-UP IN THE LEAGUE!! YAAAAAAAAAAY....

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[quote=GMScud;682146]I wonder what all the lovers would be saying if it was Cerrato who made this same move?

I'm still undecided, but I'm leaning towards not really liking this, especially since we'll probably give him a lucrative extension as well. With this move, I now forsee at least a few current players traded before the draft.[/quote]

That's a good point but I guess that we have to realize that new coaches want a guy that they're more comfortable with. It happens quite a lot.. the compensation is the main thing that I'm trying to get over.

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Interesting theory I think Mechanix had on using McNabb to move to #1 to get Bradford. Don't see it happening though.

Major props to Jay Glazer for being on top of this. He's one of the best in the biz. I shouldn't have doubted him.

I don't know yet how I feel about this. I have a great deal of respect for McNabb, but I'm concerned that this could mean good-bye for Sexy Rexy! Seriously though, I think McNabb has two to three strong years left in him. And hopefully here he'll get the run support he didn't get in Philly. I gotta think they're still looking at a QB toward the later rounds though.

I'm not usually too surprised by moves the Redskins make since I generally get a heads up on things that are brewing. I would say, with very little hesitation, that I have never been as surprised about a Redskins move in the last 10 years as this one.

So, do we like this better than getting Cutler last year?

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So much for rebuilding, we are going for it this year. I wish now they would have went for Dansby and Rolle.

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[quote=GTripp0012;682171]The relevant question though is how many passes MORE will he throw compared to McNabb.

If McNabb lasts longer here than Kolb does in Philly, we probably end up winning this trade. In all other scenarios, we probably lose it.

The gamble is that we can get better production from the 33.5 year old than they can get from their 26.5 year old. It's a gamble that we'll lose most of the time. But you only have to win it once, I suppose.[/quote]

I'll measure this trade by one statistic: How many games we win with McNabb as starter. That's it. If we get two playoff seasons out of him, then it was well worth it.

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[quote=12thMan;682175]I don't get the logic of some not wanting to bring McNabb here, but wanting us to draft a rookie that wouldn't have an impact doesn't make sense to me.

The fact remains, there will be quarterbacks available in the draft from now until eternity.[/quote]

Yeah, Sanchez didn't have an impact. Stafford didn't have an impact. Eli didn't have an impact his first year. So on and so forth.

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Why are some of you folks mad about McNabb? That was a great move, sorry JC lovers but he wasn't going to be Shanny's QB. He knew it and so did the FO. As for Buffalo, I bet we could get a 3rd Rd pick for JC. Also there are still talks out there saying Cooley could be dealt. We are not done making moves, I trust Shanny/Allen all day!

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[quote=SmootSmack;682180]
So, do we like this better than getting Cutler last year?[/quote]

Very much. Now all we have to do is sign T.O and our offense will be set.

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[quote=724Skinsfan;681998]I just defecated...[/quote]

Take your ass on.... By!!!!

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Not going to get myself a McNabb jersey, but this is undeniable:

[url=http://140081.spreadshirt.com/offseason-champs-A4226003]Offseason Champs | Mr. Irrelevant's T-Shirt Shop[/url]

Dynasty!

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[quote=CultBrennan59;682158]I love how someone said that they're were 99% sure we wouldn't get mcnabb.

that 1 % is huge now.[/quote]
hindsight

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[QUOTE="MattsRiff"]

So he's just submitted himself to be a safe passer now? Injuries/age has impacted his game in my opinion.

So you seriously thing he's worth the 4th pick in the 2nd round, and lets face it, possible a high 3rd? That's quality picks there, possible starting OL or other potential needs...
Heck what if he only stays for a year?!?[/QUOTE]

We'll have to agree to disagree in regard to injuries. Again they haven't been a major issue for him since his knee in 2006.

Is there a rookie in the 2nd that was going to give us the same impact as McNabb?

Why would he only be here one year?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;682186]Very much. Now all we have to do is sign T.O and our offense will be set.[/quote]

sarcasm?

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Super ironic video. Now I understand it. We're not trying to tackle him, we're trying to save him:
[YT]k3Gu70xY6r0[/YT]

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I can't believe this is true, but it has to be better than what we have had a quarterback the past 4 seasons.

I wonder who they will take in the draft now, if anyone.

Also hope that the signing of Willie Parker means that CP doesn't see much field. LJ & Parker are a good set.

HTTR!!!!

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I guess now I'll have find another name fo him besides Mcpuke. Can't say I love the move but I think we can get a good three years out of him while we groom our future QB.

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All I know is McNabb kicked our ass for years lol So I'm thrilled he's our QB and the Eagles have a unproven Kolb, and Mike Vick LMAO

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[quote=SBXVII;682167]This is what I actually think is going to happen. Everyone is getting their panties in a bunch about now having him but the Rams were interested also. They just couldn't get the job done. We send McNabb and our 4th round pick and I bet we get the #1 overall.

Trade JC for a #2 and were right back in it with an OL.

I don't know maybe it's just me.[/quote]

McNabb.. our 1st and next year's something

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[quote=GTripp0012;682171]The relevant question though is how many passes MORE will he throw compared to McNabb.

If McNabb lasts longer here than Kolb does in Philly, we probably end up winning this trade. In all other scenarios, we probably lose it.

The gamble is that we can get better production from the 33.5 year old than they can get from their 26.5 year old. It's a gamble that we'll lose most of the time. But you only have to win it once, I suppose.[/quote]
It's not McNabb vs Kolb for us.. unless you're suggesting that we should've pushed harder for Kolb