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cdskins26 04-23-2010 10:17 PM

Re: The Official 2010 NFL Draft Thread: Rounds 2-3
 
[quote=vallin21;693546]He played LT at MD, but from what I hear he'll be a better RT than LT in the pros.[/quote]

At this point i think he falls to us. Unfortunately i think we don't take him for whatever reason. If we did, we become one G away from a formidable offensive line.

tootergray34 04-23-2010 10:18 PM

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hells yes...campbell will be phenominal for us ... opening day RT if he comes to us...but what of artis hix? is that his name?

RMSkins 04-23-2010 10:30 PM

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Here is a list of my Best Players Available for our 103rd pick.

1. Bruce Campbell OT Maryland
2. Everson Griffen DE/OLB USC
3. Corey Wooten DE Northwestern
4. Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB/FS Indiana University of Pennsylvania
5. Ricky Sapp OLB Clemson
6. Reshad Jones S Georgia
7. Selvish Capers OT West Virginia
8. Joe McKnight RB USC
9. Thaddeus Gibson OLB Ohio State
10. Cam Thomas NT North Carolina
11. Mardy Gilyard WR Cincinnatti

Gtothearry 04-23-2010 10:41 PM

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So, 4 more picks in front of us.................Rams, Vikings, Bucs and Texans. I think if the Rams don't take him we can will be able to pick him up. (Campbell)

skinsnut 04-23-2010 10:41 PM

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Campbell would be great due to his combine numbers, but he has gotten schooled has little experience, and is a bit dumb....here is a great writeup on him...
I gotta tell you though...I will be JACKED UP...if we get him...sure he could easily bust...but...we are talking a 4th rounder...some Mocks had him a mid first round prospect if you could believe it....doesn't make sense since first rounders are based off of dominant play over combine numbers...but the guy should have easily gone mid 3rd round at latest IMO

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1242927?tag=DraftBestAvailableTableData;DraftBestAvailableTable42]Bruce Campbell, Maryland, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url]

skinsy 04-23-2010 10:42 PM

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Campbell's dropped pretty significantly due to supposed durability issues (brain operation) and drive. This guy is a 2nd round talent, however. Very big and fast. Taller, faster, and longer arms than trent williams. I don't think Shanny pulls the trigger here (in order to address other needs), but this would be a steal.

skinsnut 04-23-2010 10:43 PM

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[quote=tootergray34;693549]hells yes...campbell will be phenominal for us ... opening day RT if he comes to us...but what of artis hix? is that his name?[/quote]

He can play guard, RT...Campbell may be a little too slow to be a starter after 1 preseason, but come on...it is a 4th round pick...when do you get a starter out of a 4th?

vallin21 04-23-2010 10:45 PM

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[quote=cdskins26;693547]At this point i think he falls to us. [B]Unfortunately i think we don't take him for whatever reason.[/B] If we did, we become one G away from a formidable offensive line.[/quote]

I thought about that to, until I realized MS took Maurice Clarett in the 3rd, so he's not afraid to pick suspect guys, and it might satisfy Synder need for a high profile pick.

skinsnut 04-23-2010 10:45 PM

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[quote=Gtothearry;693557]So, 4 more picks in front of us.................Rams, Vikings, Bucs and Texans. I think if the Rams don't take him we can will be able to pick him up. (Campbell)[/quote]

Vikings are more likely, it will be close

Gtothearry 04-23-2010 10:45 PM

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[quote=skinsy;693559]Campbell's dropped pretty significantly due to supposed durability issues (brain operation) and drive. This guy is a 2nd round talent, however. Very big and fast. Taller, faster, and longer arms than trent williams. I don't think Shanny pulls the trigger here (in order to address other needs), but this would be a steal.[/quote]

If he is still there I don't know why u wouldn't pull the trigger. I can't see us having a bigger need then along the OL.

Dirtbag59 04-23-2010 10:46 PM

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Look out for Myron Rolle. Redskins are looking for another Center Fielder. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if they passed on a tackle and drafted either a LB, RB, or FS. I mean I know Vinny isn't here any more but I don't think they feel the solution is to simply draft a bunch of lineman.

RMSkins 04-23-2010 10:48 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;693564]Look out for Myron Rolle. Redskins are looking for another Center Fielder. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if they passed on a tackle and drafted either a LB, RB, or FS. I mean I know Vinny isn't here any more but I don't think they feel the solution is to simply draft a bunch of lineman.[/quote]
I'm an FSU fan and Myron Rolle cannot play FS. He is your typical in-the-box SS.

Gtothearry 04-23-2010 10:48 PM

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I would agree that they wouldn't simply just draft lineman but when Campbell is still there at 103........i think u make that pick.

skinsnut 04-23-2010 10:49 PM

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[quote=vallin21;693561]I thought about that to, until I realized MS took Maurice Clarett in the 3rd, so he's not afraid to pick suspect guys, and it might satisfy Synder need for a high profile pick.[/quote]

Uh, does Campbell have character issues?
I haven't heard that yet...any info?

skinsnut 04-23-2010 10:50 PM

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What time EST does the draft start tommorrow?

skinsy 04-23-2010 10:50 PM

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Shanny Loves mid-round RB's, I think he gets one here. Portis, Parker, and Johnson have high mileage and I don't think all three make the final cut before the regular season.

RMSkins 04-23-2010 10:50 PM

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[quote=skinsnut;693569]What time EST does the draft start tommorrow?[/quote]
10 am

Dirtbag59 04-23-2010 10:51 PM

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Can't believe day 3 starts at 10 am. I guess I'll get to see the sixth round.

Hamoskinz 04-23-2010 10:54 PM

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If we somehow miss Bruce Campbell (either pas or picked by someone else), I would mind going for Cirron Black.

Dirtbag59 04-23-2010 10:54 PM

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[quote=RMSkins;693565]I'm an FSU fan and Myron Rolle cannot play FS. He is your typical in-the-box SS.[/quote]

Dude harsh. Killing my buzz. Still that leaves the door open for LB or RB. People are going to freak out tomorrow when the pick isn't a tackle. I would love it if it was but you rarely see teams taking that type of approach.

skinsy 04-23-2010 10:55 PM

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Campbell has no real character issues other than really struggling through school. His college coach said he had to go to study hall when the rest of the team was practicing in the spring.

WaldSkins 04-23-2010 10:56 PM

Re: The Official 2010 NFL Draft Thread: Rounds 2-3
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;693564]Look out for Myron Rolle. Redskins are looking for another Center Fielder. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if they passed on a tackle and drafted either a LB, RB, or FS. I mean I know Vinny isn't here any more but I don't think they feel the solution is to simply draft a bunch of lineman.[/quote]

We have Lendy Holmes so who needs Myron Rolle.

vallin21 04-23-2010 10:56 PM

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I hear people talking about his intelligence, but Campbell scored an 18 which was 4 higher than Mike Iupatu (14), and Sean Taylor who scored a 10. I don't think Sean was dumb, but he knew how to play football. Also Realize Campbell is 21 and his maturity level isn't there yet, so if we give the kid time he'll grow up kinda like ST.

Kalisto2010 04-23-2010 10:56 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;693527]Really I felt like Mayock has done an excellent job so far. I think it's obvious that while ESPN might have the big names and fancy graphics it's obvious that the guys on NFLN have much better chemistry. Not to mention better experts and information gathering.

I mean don't get me wrong ESPN has some smart guys on the set for their draft coverage but they keep interrupting each other which annoys the hell out of me. NFLN's guys wait for each other to finish a sentence. If I wanted to see people cut each other off I would watch The O'Reily Factor.[/quote]

You hit the nail on the head. I think I switched over to ESPN twice during the entire draft coverage. The NFLN is quickly pulling ahead of ESPN when comes to NFL coverage.

Ruhskins 04-23-2010 11:01 PM

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[quote=skinsnut;693567]Uh, does Campbell have character issues?
I haven't heard that yet...any info?[/quote]

None that I'm aware of.

RMSkins 04-23-2010 11:07 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;693574]Dude harsh. Killing my buzz. Still that leaves the door open for LB or RB. People are going to freak out tomorrow when the pick isn't a tackle. I would love it if it was but you rarely see teams taking that type of approach.[/quote]
My bad, dude. I can definitely see us taking a RB or a LB with 103.

Dirtbag59 04-23-2010 11:09 PM

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[quote=Kalisto2010;693578]You hit the nail on the head. I think I switched over to ESPN twice during the entire draft coverage. The NFLN is quickly pulling ahead of ESPN when comes to NFL coverage.[/quote]

Ha ha, thanks. I was hoping I wasn't the only one that felt that way about the networks.

I mean for anyone else watching you'd see stuff like ESPN not knowing who was picked until maybe seconds before. Other times they got guys they were lucky enough to have cameras on at home. Look, when JLC breaks picks before Schefter you know somethings wrong. Other times they would just keep on talking while players were getting picked, and this was in the first round.

Another thing I liked about NFLN though was they always had some noise in the background. ESPN kept cutting to interviews and studios where it's dead silent and their mic's didn't really pick up much background noise. I doubt thats a factor for 99.9% of people watching the draft but I thought it added a sense of being there. It also helped NFLN because the few times they did talk over picks early you could hear it announced in the background.

I've had my TV on for the entire draft and I think that I've spent maybe 20 minutes on ESPN. The other infinity billion hours have been on NFLN. And keep in mind I felt like at the start of the draft that I was going to spend most of my time on ESPN.

[quote=RMSkins;693584]My bad, dude. I can definitely see us taking a RB or a LB with 103.[/quote]

Forget it. After that Rolle buzzkill I can't even talk to you anymore. You know what....You're an in the box safety. Yeah I showed you.

SouperMeister 04-23-2010 11:22 PM

Re: The Official 2010 NFL Draft Thread: Rounds 2-3
 
If Trent Williams' athletic ability and quickness make him a good fit for our zone blocking scheme, then I would think that the same could be said for Bruce Campbell as a value pick at this point in the draft. I will be disappointed if he's still on the board at pick 103 and we pass on him.

PHazard 04-23-2010 11:25 PM

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I wasnt on board with only talkin OT's in the draft like some were preaching. But that was before the possibility of Campbell falling to us in the 4th. If he's there when we go on the clock i dont see ANY reason to not pick him. How often can you lock up two tackle spots in one draft for the next 6 years? Campbell has bad tape out there but putting him on the right side will help him develop and he's still only 21. Gotta pull the trigger there

RMSkins 04-23-2010 11:28 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;693585]Ha ha, thanks. I was hoping I wasn't the only one that felt that way about the networks.

I mean for anyone else watching you'd see stuff like ESPN not knowing who was picked until maybe seconds before. Other times they got guys they were lucky enough to have cameras on at home. Look, when JLC breaks picks before Schefter you know somethings wrong. Other times they would just keep on talking while players were getting picked, and this was in the first round.

Another thing I liked about NFLN though was they always had some noise in the background. ESPN kept cutting to interviews and studios where it's dead silent and their mic's didn't really pick up much background noise. I doubt thats a factor for 99.9% of people watching the draft but I thought it added a sense of being there. It also helped NFLN because the few times they did talk over picks early you could hear it announced in the background.

I've had my TV on for the entire draft and I think that I've spent maybe 20 minutes on ESPN. The other infinity billion hours have been on NFLN. And keep in mind I felt like at the start of the draft that I was going to spend most of my time on ESPN.



Forget it. After that Rolle buzzkill I can't even talk to you anymore. You know what....You're an in the box safety. Yeah I showed you.[/quote]
That's pretty funny considering I played SS in high school.

Dirtbag59 04-23-2010 11:36 PM

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[quote=RMSkins;693592]That's pretty funny considering I played SS in high school.[/quote]

Ha ha, touché.

skinsy 04-23-2010 11:47 PM

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I just noticed Campbell ran the fastest 40 yard dash for an OL at the combine (4.85). He just missed the fastest time on the 20 yard shuffle (behind Trent Williams). He was pretty formidable on everything else, very athletic. We must not know something about this guy for him to be available this late (see Dez Bryant--irregular heartbeat)...

CultBrennan59 04-24-2010 12:09 AM

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A) Why did Bruce Campbell drop this far?
B) The redskins should get a few of these mentioned players


Everson Griffen, DE, USC
Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
Eric Norwood, ILB, South Carolina
Al Woods, DL, LSU
Jason Fox, OT, Miami
Perrish Cox, CB, Oklahoma State
Ricky Sapp, LB/DE, Clemson
Arthur Moats, LB/DE, JMU
Thaddeus Gibson, DE/OLB, Ohio State
A.J. Jefferson, CB, Fresno State
Cam Thomas, DL, North Carolina
Corey Wooton, DE, Northwestern
Brandon Deaderick, DL, Alabama
Selvish Capers, OT, West Virginia
Joe McKnight, RB, USC
Marshall Newhouse, OG, TCU
Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson
Dominique Franks, CB, Oklahoma
Roddrick Muckelroy, ILB, Texas
Walter Thurmond, CB, Oregon
Mardy Gilyard, WR/RS, Cincinnati
Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB/RS, IUP
Matt Tennant, C, Boston College
Jeff Byers, G/C, USC
Freddie Barnes, WR, Bowling Green
John Estes, C, Hawaii
LaGarette Blount, RB, Oregon
Johnathan Dwyer, RB, GT
Dezmone Briscoe, WR, Kansas
Antonio Brown, WR/RS, Central Michigan
Riley Cooper, WR, Florida
Leigh Tiffin, K, Alabama
Micah Johnson, MLB, Kentucky
Arthur Jones, DT, Syracuse
Vince Ogobasse, DT, Duke
Jamar Chaney, LB, Mississippi St.
Donovan Warren, CB, Michigan
Tony Washington, OT, Abilene Christian
Ramon Harewood, OT, Morehouse
Brandon James, RB/RS, Florida

RMSkins 04-24-2010 12:14 AM

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[quote=skinsy;693597]I just noticed Campbell ran the fastest 40 yard dash for an OL at the combine (4.85). He just missed the fastest time on the 20 yard shuffle (behind Trent Williams). He was pretty formidable on everything else, very athletic. We must not know something about this guy for him to be available this late (see Dez Bryant--irregular heartbeat)...[/quote]
Obviously, Campbell has superior measurables, but a lot of scouts have been saying that his game film is absolutely terrible. I haven't watched Maryland enough to know how good of a player he is, so I have to take their word for it, but I wouldn't be opposed to taking him at 103 as a project with potential to boom or bust.

Dirtbag59 04-24-2010 12:17 AM

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[quote=RMSkins;693611]Obviously, Campbell has superior measurables, but a lot of scouts have been saying that his game film is absolutely terrible. I haven't watched Maryland enough to know how good of a player he is, so I have to take their word for it, but I wouldn't be opposed to taking him at 103 as a project with potential to boom or bust.[/quote]

I've seen both. I've seen games where he's thrown people to the ground (legally mind you) and I've seen games where he looks like a fish out of water.

Ruhskins 04-24-2010 12:19 AM

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I wouldn't mind picking up Cam Thomas in the 5th (if he drops that far). He could be our future NT.

tootergray34 04-24-2010 12:27 AM

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Eric Norwood = FAIL haha.

I'd love either of these 2 guys with our 4th.

1. Bruce Campbell
2. Joe McKnight

SFREDSKIN 04-24-2010 12:30 AM

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[quote=tootergray34;693615]Eric Norwood = FAIL haha.

I'd love either of these 2 guys with our 4th.

1. Bruce Campbell
2. Joe McKnight[/quote]

You can add Everson Griffen. Griffen, Jarmon and Orakpo at ends would be a lighting fast pass rush.

GMScud 04-24-2010 12:50 AM

Re: The Official 2010 NFL Draft Thread: Rounds 2-3
 
[quote=tootergray34;693615]Eric Norwood = FAIL haha.

I'd love either of these 2 guys with our 4th.

1. Bruce Campbell
2. Joe McKnight[/quote]

Gotta say, I'm really surprised Bruce Campbell has fallen this far.

GMScud 04-24-2010 12:52 AM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;693608]A) Why did Bruce Campbell drop this far?
B) The redskins should get a few of these mentioned players

[B]
Everson Griffen, DE, USC
Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland [/B]
Eric Norwood, ILB, South Carolina
Al Woods, DL, LSU
Jason Fox, OT, Miami
Perrish Cox, CB, Oklahoma State
Ricky Sapp, LB/DE, Clemson
Arthur Moats, LB/DE, JMU
Thaddeus Gibson, DE/OLB, Ohio State
A.J. Jefferson, CB, Fresno State
Cam Thomas, DL, North Carolina
Corey Wooton, DE, Northwestern
Brandon Deaderick, DL, Alabama
Selvish Capers, OT, West Virginia
Joe McKnight, RB, USC
Marshall Newhouse, OG, TCU
Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson
Dominique Franks, CB, Oklahoma
Roddrick Muckelroy, ILB, Texas
Walter Thurmond, CB, Oregon
[B]Mardy Gilyard, WR/RS, Cincinnati[/B]
Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB/RS, IUP
Matt Tennant, C, Boston College
Jeff Byers, G/C, USC
Freddie Barnes, WR, Bowling Green
John Estes, C, Hawaii
LaGarette Blount, RB, Oregon
[B]Johnathan Dwyer, RB, GT
Dezmone Briscoe, WR, Kansas[/B]
Antonio Brown, WR/RS, Central Michigan
Riley Cooper, WR, Florida
Leigh Tiffin, K, Alabama
Micah Johnson, MLB, Kentucky
Arthur Jones, DT, Syracuse
Vince Ogobasse, DT, Duke
Jamar Chaney, LB, Mississippi St.
Donovan Warren, CB, Michigan
Tony Washington, OT, Abilene Christian
Ramon Harewood, OT, Morehouse
Brandon James, RB/RS, Florida[/quote]

I put in bold the names I'm pretty surprised made it past the 3rd round.


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