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Dirtbag59 08-24-2010 06:39 PM

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LSU Players: Under performing Since 2002

GusFrerotte 08-24-2010 09:27 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;723614]LSU Players: Under performing Since 2002[/quote]

Actually since 1988. WR Wendell Davis was a stud at LSU and never truly delivered as a pro.

GusFrerotte 08-24-2010 09:30 PM

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I wouldn't get all worked up about VJ since they just announced he might get an extra 3-4 weeks on his suspension. It is better to work with what you got and just draft a WR with one of our upper round draft picks.

GusFrerotte 08-24-2010 09:40 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;723444]So how long until Bruce Allen makes a call?[/quote]

I wouldn't, they might double VJ's suspension time. To be honest the trading AH for Clayton would be the wiser move, in that it would be no money for us and probably an extra pick. VJ would be a lot of $$$$, plus we would be giving away yet another precious draft pick, and to top it all off, we would not be totally assured of a return on our investment. Sure it is a long shot for Clayton to really produce for us, but maybe a new venue can give the guy a new lease on his career. Look at Braylon Edwards. He was a joke in Cleveland, now he is a serviceable threat. Maybe not a consistent pro bowler type, but he is a threat. Armstrong and Moss are the only strong Wr's we have seen thus far. outside of the dynamic TE duo we have. DT had a great game vs the Bills, but like everyone has said he has a lot of drops ala Rod Gardner. If DT could reduce the drops and play consistently well, he will be a stud, but alas we are not so fortunate.

SmootSmack 08-24-2010 09:46 PM

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[quote=GusFrerotte;723657]I wouldn't, they might double VJ's suspension time. To be honest the trading AH for Clayton would be the wiser move, in that it would be no money for us and probably an extra pick. VJ would be a lot of $$$$, plus we would be giving away yet another precious draft pick, and to top it all off, we would not be totally assured of a return on our investment. Sure it is a long shot for Clayton to really produce for us, but maybe a new venue can give the guy a new lease on his career. Look at Braylon Edwards. He was a joke in Cleveland, now he is a serviceable threat. Maybe not a consistent pro bowler type, but he is a threat. Armstrong and Moss are the only strong Wr's we have seen thus far. outside of the dynamic TE duo we have. DT had a great game vs the Bills, but like everyone has said he has a lot of drops ala Rod Gardner. If DT could reduce the drops and play consistently well, he will be a stud, but alas we are not so fortunate.[/quote]

It would only be 6 games if he's not on an active roster before Sept. 4th

And I think it's a bit of a stretch to say Edwards was a joke in Cleveland

GusFrerotte 08-24-2010 10:00 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;723659]It would only be 6 games if he's not on an active roster before Sept. 4th

And I think it's a bit of a stretch to say Edwards was a joke in Cleveland[/quote]

People up here made fun of him, even Browns fans, And do you really want to give up a lot of $$$ and a draft pick for VJ? I mean we seem to be putting all of our eggs into one basket like always. Getting high priced FAs to win now? Sounds vaguely familiar, just like the regime we all hated so much for so long at Redskins Park. Sure he is talented, but if you really wanted a stud WR so bad to win now, should have just got TO, no picks would have been had to be sacrificed. VJ could come in here and be a cancer just as much as TO could, but I think TO realizes the end is nearing for him and he has no rings, so he is going to be a good boy. Not so sure about VJ.

SmootSmack 08-24-2010 10:20 PM

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[quote=GusFrerotte;723664]People up here made fun of him, even Browns fans, And do you really want to give up a lot of $$$ and a draft pick for VJ? I mean we seem to be putting all of our eggs into one basket like always. Getting high priced FAs to win now? Sounds vaguely familiar, just like the regime we all hated so much for so long at Redskins Park. Sure he is talented, but if you really wanted a stud WR so bad to win now, should have just got TO, no picks would have been had to be sacrificed. VJ could come in here and be a cancer just as much as TO could, but I think TO realizes the end is nearing for him and he has no rings, so he is going to be a good boy. Not so sure about VJ.[/quote]

I don't want to trade for Jackson, don't believe I ever said I did

As for Edwards, people can make fun of him all they want. And I agree for the #3 overall pick his numbers weren't outstanding but he had some pretty nice numbers for the Browns during his time there

GusFrerotte 08-24-2010 10:49 PM

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I agree about Edwards. I thought he did decently, but he had the case of the dropsies more than a lot of folks in Cleveland could handle. Reminds me a bit of Gardner for us. Statwise Rod wasn't all that bad, but it was what could have been if he caught the balls he should have that pissed us off. We need to stay pat with the WR corp for at least this season, and draft one next year. I do not like us still putting the focus on FA acquisitions to be our cure all. I would love to win now, but rather go through 8-8 or 9-7 for a couple seasons to build a consistent winner. Damn, we have waited so long for it, might as well wait a tad longer.

EARTHQUAKE2689 08-24-2010 10:57 PM

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I just wanna point out that Sidney Rice who had a crazy turnaround in 2009 hadn't really done anything before Favre got there so does Favre to Rice in 2009 = McNabb to Thomas in 2010. Thomas is entering his 3rd year just as Sidney Rice was last season.

GTripp0012 08-24-2010 11:05 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;723674]I just wanna point out that Sidney Rice who had a crazy turnaround in 2009 hadn't really done anything before Favre got there so does Favre to Rice in 2009 = McNabb to Thomas in 2010. Thomas is entering his 3rd year just as Sidney Rice was last season.[/quote]Their wasn't a whole lot between them coming out of college. But the biggest difference is that during their rookie years, Rice adjusted well to the NFL game. He picked up Chilly's playbook right away, and contributed to the 2007 Vikings offense. He was targeted 53 times that year.

Thomas, well, he didn't and wasn't.

I would have bet against both of them coming out of college, but Rice has proved me wrong. Thomas, not so much.

GusFrerotte 08-24-2010 11:17 PM

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We will get the answer about Dt rather quickly. I just hope we don't get Jackson.

EARTHQUAKE2689 08-25-2010 12:22 AM

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[quote=GTripp0012;723677]Their wasn't a whole lot between them coming out of college. But the biggest difference is that during their rookie years, Rice adjusted well to the NFL game. He picked up Chilly's playbook right away, and contributed to the 2007 Vikings offense. He was targeted 53 times that year.

Thomas, well, he didn't and wasn't.

I would have bet against both of them coming out of college, but Rice has proved me wrong. Thomas, not so much.[/quote]

Even though he was targeted 53 times he hadn't made that impact until Favre got there.

skinsfaninok 08-25-2010 12:38 AM

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I have heard from a "Source" who coached Brandon Banks at B.C that he will make the Redskins roster as the primary PR/KR. Any one else heard otherwise?

SmootSmack 08-25-2010 12:49 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;723694]I have heard from a "Source" who coached Brandon Banks at B.C that he will make the Redskins roster as the primary PR/KR. Any one else heard otherwise?[/quote]

What BC are we talking about? Because if it's Boston College...Banks played at Kansas State

tryfuhl 08-25-2010 01:02 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;723695]What BC are we talking about? Because if it's Boston College...Banks played at Kansas State[/quote]

guessing Bakersfield JUCO

SmootSmack 08-25-2010 01:04 AM

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[quote=tryfuhl;723696]guessing Bakersfield JUCO[/quote]

That was my initial thought too, but do people call that BC?

Anyway, as I understand Banks isn't a lock by any means. But he really impressed this past weekend with his ability to contribute on special teams without the ball in his hands

EARTHQUAKE2689 08-25-2010 01:05 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;723695]What BC are we talking about? Because if it's Boston College...Banks played at Kansas State[/quote]

I was thinking the same thing or "bullcrap"

tryfuhl 08-25-2010 01:46 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;723697]That was my initial thought too, but do people call that BC?

Anyway, as I understand Banks isn't a lock by any means. But he really impressed this past weekend with his ability to contribute on special teams without the ball in his hands[/quote]

not sure why they would that's just all that I could deduct

Paintrain 08-25-2010 08:07 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;723697]That was my initial thought too, but do people call that BC?

Anyway, as I understand Banks isn't a lock by any means. But he really impressed this past weekend with his ability to contribute on special teams without the ball in his hands[/quote]

Clearly not by his tackling but unless he craps the bed or get injured in the next 2 weeks he seems like a classic Shanahan end of the roster guy who ends up making an impact.

MTK 08-25-2010 08:16 AM

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Mechanix544 08-25-2010 09:09 AM

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I think Edwards is better than any of OUR receivers, but he is definitely an underacheiver. An underacheiver with a serious case of the dropsies. If he could have held on to just half of the passes he has dropped in his career, he would be a top 3 WR in this league.

MTK 08-25-2010 09:27 AM

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I would take Moss over Edwards, easily.

skinsfaninok 08-25-2010 09:27 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;723695]What BC are we talking about? Because if it's Boston College...Banks played at Kansas State[/quote]

Bakersfield College


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