Re: Redskins
 

[quote=Lotus;757974]No one here is propping up Kolb or overestimating his play in that game.

The problem is the bold part. That is speculation, not fact. Vick might have "exploited" our defense. Or he might have thrown three picks. We'll never know.

The one thing that we all know for sure is that it was 14-0 when Vick left.[/quote]

Lotus you gotta remember, Lavar is just doing something called "keeping it real." This is where the Skins have to win by at least 10 in order to call it a win. If not, speculation comes into play and the Skins record may change. SCP and Lavar actually believe the Skins are like 1-7. SCP believes it may even be 1991 as he mentioned in his previous post.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;757923]Actually Ace is using correct NFL terminology as opposed to "Real" terminology.

See, the NFL counts a win (amazingly) as a WIN for tiebreakers and comparisons. SO if we beat the Eagles by 1 we get the same QUALITY win (since it is division and conference opponent) as if we had beat them by 30.

You use the "real" definition, where a 1 point win is not a QUALITY win, but just a poor man's win with comments.

So, in NFL terms we have 4 QUALITY wins, 2 that are division, (high quality), 2 that are Conference contenders (quality in that A- they are in conference and B- both would seem to be competitors for a playoff spot). On the other hand 3 of our 4 losses could be considered low quality losses (2 are out of conference and have little bearing on wild card tiebreakers, 1(lions) is in conference but unlikely to be a wild card competitor.) so out of our 4 losses, at this point only one would appear to be a NFL quality loss. That is the Rams, because we could end up losing a tiebreaker for a wild card spot to them.

Obviously, his use of quantity is correct as we would all like a better quantity of wins.[/quote]

Fair enough but:

If I took a poll I bet most people would pick the Giants to win their next game no matter who they would be playing. Why because they win with authority. That is also why they will win the Division. I'll take "real" quality wins over "NFL" quality wins any day!

And thats my point. I was not discrediting Ace, I was pointing out that with "real" quality, you don't need anything else.

[QUOTE=44ever;757992]Fair enough but:

If I took a poll I bet most people would pick the Giants to win their next game no matter who they would be playing. Why because they win with authority. That is also why they will win the Division. I'll take "real" quality wins over "NFL" quality wins any day!

And thats my point. I was not discrediting Ace, I was pointing out that with "real" quality, you don't need anything else.[/QUOTE]

I get what you are saying. But the Giants have an established coach and qb and oline. We are 8 games separated from a dysfunctional team. Changes take time and take patience and resolve. I will take a team that fights to the last second over what we saw last year and I will give kudos to a management team that is desperately trying to change a decade of dysfunction. That doesn't imply any acceptance of this team as being in its final state.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[quote=SmootSmack;757963]Quoting myself here, but good response by Rick Reilly

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=5795495"]Redskins coach Mike Shanahan a racist? Rick Reilly says 'No way.' - ESPN[/URL][/quote]


............OMG, Shannys plan is an ALL WHITE team??
Man, we are so done

Feinstein, what an asshole. You should not have to justify yourself to a Dick like that. In a perfect world you would be able to go over to his place, take him outside and throw him around the parking lot for a while.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

I think some of you guys really underestimate Mike Shanahan and McNabb sometimes.
You would think how many times 5 kicked our asses especially on MNF, that you would have more faith. Philly is a top 10 team but yet we did BEAT them remember? So what makes this so different? Don't tell me Vick bcuz he played for the whole 1st Qtr and we were up 2 scores.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;757994]I get what you are saying. But the Giants have an established coach and qb and oline. We are 8 games separated from a dysfunctional team. Changes take time and take patience and resolve. [B] I will take a team that fights to the last second over what we saw last year and I will give kudos to a management team that is desperately trying to change a decade of dysfunction.[/B] That doesn't imply any acceptance of this team as being in its final state.[/quote]

I'm with you 100% here. HTTR!

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

Not sure which on bothers me more. Hopefully Torain can go Monday. I know CP is done and Banks needs 1 more week, but does anyone know the status of Landrys achilles?

Brandon Banks--- WR--- Knee--- Limited Participation in Practice
LaRon Landry----- S--- Achilles--- Limited Participation in Practice
Clinton Portis---- RB--- Groin--- Limited Participation in Practice
Ryan Torain----- RB--- Hamstring--- Limited Participation in Practice

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

I just hope we win the damn game. If we can rattle off the next two weeks with W's , it should make the road to a playoff seed alot easier. We drop even one of them, say to 4-5, 5-5, or worse to 4-6, stick a fork in us, we're prolly done...............500 wont get us to the promised land, not even close.

If this team was built to "Win Now", then the next two weeks are the most important of this season. Two winnable games, and the team is as fresh as it will ever be.

Whatever happens the next two games I think will define what type of team we are. A struggling, underachieving team sliding by with cheap wins (sadly, Im leaning more this way), or a veteran, pressure savvy team with good coaching (hopefully).

Re: Redskins
 

[quote=Chico23231;757984]Lotus you gotta remember, Lavar is just doing something called "keeping it real." This is where the Skins have to win by at least 10 in order to call it a win. If not, speculation comes into play and the Skins record may change. SCP and Lavar actually believe the Skins are like 1-7. SCP believes it may even be 1991 as he mentioned in his previous post.[/quote]

I appreciate your valiant effort at trying to speak for me but... you're wrong. Some of us just want the Skins to compete for 4qtrs and beat teams that we should beat, especially when we get multiple turnovers, be it forced or handed to us. Some of us want to see solid winning football and not just because of the opponent's starters getting hurt or the opponent pissing the game away, period. But again your effort was noble.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

Sometimes,our own fans don't have as much faith as they should...

Yea,we did lose to the Rams and Lions,but 3 of our 4 wins are against teams with 5 wins right now.
and 1 of those 3 has 6 wins.

and 3 of our 4 losses are against teams .500 or better. and 1 of those with 5 wins...

Not too bad for a team thrown together with a new coach on Offense,Defense,new QB and new defensive scheme imo...

Should we be better...? Sure
But we could also be the dallas cowboys as well.

If we can continue to win the HUGE games,we will be in good shape for a playoff run.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[quote=aceinthehouse;758018]Sometimes,our own fans don't have as much faith as they should...

[B]Yea,we did lose to the Rams and Lions[/B],but 3 of our 4 wins are against teams with 5 wins right now.
and 1 of those 3 has 6 wins.

and 3 of our 4 losses are against teams .500 or better. and 1 of those with 5 wins...

Not too bad for a team thrown together with a new coach on Offense,Defense,new QB and new defensive scheme imo...

Should we be better...? Sure
But we could also be the dallas cowboys as well.

If we can continue to win the HUGE games,we will be in good shape for a playoff run.[/quote]

We should have beaten the Rams no doubt but those Lions with Stafford are a really good team, so I'm not too disappointed in that Lions loss.

We beat Dallas (very barely), and they are 1-7, nothing to get excited about.

Loss to Houston, we put up 27 points can't complain here. D steps it up we win this one. Lots of guys steped up and showed us some new found talent so I don't sweat this loss. Still early in the season.

Lost to the Rams, Hmmmm... not looking good, but could have been our off game, kinda like NE had against the Browns. OK I'll give them that loss. But we should have won this game.

We beat Eagles (barely), and they played without their starting QB, yes there is a great argument that we were up 14-0 when he went out and that cant be denied so OK I'll take that win but... Not still convinced.

We beat GB. Now we have something to get excited about, we beat a great team with Rogers at the helm. O and D were on all day. This is the kind of win that helps set teams in the right direction. This win instils confidence and can bring a team to life.

Colts 24-27 For Matty, I call this a losing win;) We hung with one of the best in the league. Team showed they can compete! Is this my Redskins?

Bears, Win. No excuses here. we won. OK we can compete.

The Lions were simply a better team that day. McNabb had a "off" Shanny had a "off" day. McNabb was benched and we went into the bye.

Now, looking at Monday Night against the Eagles. Vick is back and better than ever. not many injuries on their side and historically we split with them. best case scenario.

We have some key injuries in Banks, Landry, Portis and Torain. We are at home and McNabb needs to prove he is the superior QB vs Vick if he still cares about that after coming off the bench.

This is without a doubt the game that determines the reality of the Skins. We win with authority, we are legit and we go into the rest of the season full of confidence, all rumors are put aside and we can assume Shanny and McNabb have put things behind them.

We loss and the "I told you so" was right, and we enter into the toughest part of our schedule with the rumors flying and the QB situation front and center.

We have to win this game! HTTR.

Re: Redskins
 

[quote=LavaRnChad;758015]I appreciate your valiant effort at trying to speak for me but... you're wrong. [B]Some of us just want the Skins to compete for 4qtrs and beat teams that we should beat, especially when we get multiple turnovers, be it forced or handed to us. Some of us want to see solid winning football and not just because of the opponent's starters getting hurt or the opponent pissing the game away, period.[/B] But again your effort was noble.[/quote]

You just described the first Eagles game.

If you simply surrender your baseless speculation about what would have happened if Vick had stayed in the game, you will see that you already got what you want.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

The Skins offense had a R.I.P moment in the second half of the first Eagles game. Our running game is worse with now Torain and Portis both injured. Brandon Banks will probably not start as well, thus taking another of our equalizers off the field.

Also, McNabb was stuffed for under 150 yards passing in the first game. NOT GOOD.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

SirClinton Portis's sig: "Fire Haslett. Hire Wade Phillips."

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. Not only would our secondary start looking like Dallas's secondary, scary (not in a good way), but when the defense blows it hard they just get coddled to death, and petted, and petted, and told that everything will be allllllllright... Bull S.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[quote=SkinzWin;758053]SirClinton Portis's sig: "Fire Haslett. Hire Wade Phillips."

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. Not only would our secondary start looking like Dallas's secondary, scary (not in a good way), but when the defense blows it hard they just get coddled to death, and petted, and petted, and told that everything will be allllllllright... Bull S.[/quote]

Cowboys defense is absolutely horrible. Thats what been there problem this year. Horribly coached defense.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[quote=Chico23231;758055]Cowboys defense is absolutely horrible. Thats what been there problem this year. Horribly coached defense.[/quote]

I've warmed up to Haslett a little.

But he still has to stuff the trio of doom the Titans have first.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

Well Cowboys have a new coach in Jason Garrett. So we shall see what he does as interm coach for now.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[quote=JPPT1974;758058]Well Cowboys have a new coach in Jason Garrett. So we shall see what he does as interm coach for now.[/quote]

Hopefully continue the status quo....

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[quote=JPPT1974;758058]Well Cowboys have a new coach in Jason Garrett. So we shall see what he does as interm coach for now.[/quote]

I think that you just gave new meaning to the term "Mr. Irrelevant".

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

I would love to have Portis, if even just on 3rd down to block what a difference the protection has been without him. I believe win or lose Mcnabb will play well after being benched. I think we pull it off. Especially with cole who was erased by T. Williams talking sh*t.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

The win at Philly wasn't convincing but hell how many are ... It would be nice to see us start hands-down beating some people by dominating them in every facet of the game though.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[quote=SkinzWin;757374]I surprised at the number of people picking us for 25-30 points scored. I don't see us scoring more than 14 or maybe 17 at most. As far as the final prediction, if we hadn't knocked Vick out the first time, we probably wouldn't have won that game either.

Eagles - 24
Redskins - 17[/quote]

Last time I checked when Vick was on the field all I saw was 3 and out. Just a quick reminder Vick scored 0 points on us in the first game. it was kolb that made it a game.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

Honestly,this is the way I see it,in comparing the two between Vick and Kolb against our Defense and from last game.

[B]1)[/B]When Vick is starting,their ability for the [B]BIG[/B] play goes way up,whether it's a long pass from Vicks big arm to Maclin or Jackson or whoever. However,their productivity goes down. You're more likely to see 3 & outs,much less running the ball because of Vicks great running ability & [B]BIG[/B] arm. This in turns makes them 1-dimensional as picking a Defense to stop this kind of attack because of lack of attentions on any running plays between the tackle or outside. Although Vick has not thrown an INT to date,he's prone to getting injured,fumbling and making bad throws every so often.[B]SUMMARY:[/B] If you limit the big plays by Vick from his long bombs and huge runs from scrambles,while putting some king of pressure on him to make him uncomfortable in the pocket...you have a good chance of him making a bad throw and costly mistake. With Vick in the game,they focus so much on watching him make plays or putting him in position to make big plays,that they get away from the easy fundamentals of just trying to move the ball consistently and getting any kind of points on the board to win the game. It's not so much you have to stop Michael Vick,but Vick is somewhat like they used to game plan for Barry Sanders...you won't stop him...you just need to contain him.If you do that,you beat them.

2)When Kolb is starting,their ability for the [B]BIG[/B] play,goes way down. However,Kolb gives them more of a balance on Offense and more efficient one. The team focuses more on distributing the ball to all weapons and getting 1st downs.Although Kolb doesn't have Vicks rare ability,he does offer a little mobility but less of the arm downfield. So the team uses a more balance of runs,screens and dump offs to gain 1st downs.This in turn makes any playaction way more affective because of the style of play,so they are likely to catch a defense sleeping from all the short passes,than when Vick is in the game.Kolb however is prone to more sacks and relies on his passing accuracy to be affective. If he's not on his game,then it stalls an Offense with good weapons and forces the team to run the ball,which is what they do [B]not[/B] want to do. But when Kolb is accurate and playing well,there's no doubt,that their offense is more tougher to stop because of the amount of weapons they have and their ability to spread the ball around. Kolb also takes less risks than Vick...Kolb may not have the talent that Vick possesses,but he's more likely to keep your team closer in a game, towards the end of the game,but less likely to blow a team out of the water as well because of the clock he uses in games when running an offense.[B]SUMMARY:[/B] Although Vick is a much better pure athlete than Kolb,Kolb actually presents more of a problem to the Washington Redskins than Michael Vick. The reason is because the Redskins have not had the ability to blow a team out of the water on any level against anybody,but they have also been able to stay close against any team,no matter how explosive that teams Offense is. The Redskins also have used great Defensive plays off turnovers and Special teams plays to keep them alive in such tough matchups. So the best way to beat a Redskins team is good efficient play at the QB position and not some superhero,trying to make a big play everytime he steps on the field. It's why manning was able to win with No INT's,it's why Bradford was able to win in his game with the way he sustained long affective drives and why Stafford was able to win in his game against a Redskins Defense. It's also why Green Bay lost on a Rodgers late game INT to Landry and Cutler throwing darts to D.Hall. So all in all......Yea,Vick may offer the big play for philly,but he's also more likely to make a costly mistake,that keeps the redskins in the game and able to win. He's also more likely to be frustrated and play terrible in a Redskins Blowout as well. This doesn't happen with Kolb. So all in all.....I'm actually glad,we are facing Vick instead of Kolb!

and this is my report on this thing...
(sorry for any mis-spelling...That's a lot of typing)
ace

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[quote=RedskinsfaninBaltimore;758076]Last time I checked when Vick was on the field all I saw was 3 and out. Just a quick reminder Vick scored 0 points on us in the first game. it was kolb that made it a game.[/quote]

Not so fast... On their last drive of the 1st Quarter, Vick drove the entire field from their 26 down to our 1 yard line. The ball was moved back to our 34 due to O-penalty but, its obvious Vick was starting to read the D.

[url=http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=301003021]Washington Redskins vs. Philadelphia Eagles - Play By Play - October 03, 2010 - ESPN[/url]

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[quote=44ever;758092]Not so fast... On their last drive of the 1st Quarter, Vick drove the entire field from their 26 down to our 1 yard line. The ball was moved back to our 34 due to O-penalty but, its obvious Vick was starting to read the D.

[url=http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=301003021]Washington Redskins vs. Philadelphia Eagles - Play By Play - October 03, 2010 - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Again, you skew things through your half empty view. Vick drove them down to our 34. His run that got him hurt, while excellent, was NEGATED by that penalty, and if you watch the play, the hold kept our player from getting a hand on Vick. I don't know how the drive would have finished, but you can't legitimately say he drove them down to the 1, because it wouldn't have counted even if he had not got hurt.

Maybe he was beginning too. I dunno, neither do you. You assume he was, I assume the facts in evidence, he hadn't scored yet against us, and Kolb played a different style game (as Ace did a good job explaining) that we had not game-planned for.

We won. Tomorrow is a new game. I hope we win that one too, regardless of who their qb is.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

To highlight:
[QUOTE](Shotgun) M.Vick scrambles up the middle to WAS 1 for 23 yards (D.Hall; K.Moore). PHI-M.Vick was injured during the play. His return is Questionable. PENALTY on PHI-M.Jean-Gilles, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at WAS 24 - [B][I][U][SIZE="2"]No Play[/SIZE][/U][/I][/B].[/QUOTE]

emphasis mine

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[quote=aceinthehouse;758091]Honestly,this is the way I see it,in comparing the two between Vick and Kolb against our Defense and from last game.

[B]1)[/B]When Vick is starting,their ability for the [B]BIG[/B] play goes way up,whether it's a long pass from Vicks big arm to Maclin or Jackson or whoever. However,their productivity goes down. You're more likely to see 3 & outs,much less running the ball because of Vicks great running ability & [B]BIG[/B] arm. This in turns makes them 1-dimensional as picking a Defense to stop this kind of attack because of lack of attentions on any running plays between the tackle or outside. Although Vick has not thrown an INT to date,he's prone to getting injured,fumbling and making bad throws every so often.[B]SUMMARY:[/B] If you limit the big plays by Vick from his long bombs and huge runs from scrambles,while putting some king of pressure on him to make him uncomfortable in the pocket...you have a good chance of him making a bad throw and costly mistake. With Vick in the game,they focus so much on watching him make plays or putting him in position to make big plays,that they get away from the easy fundamentals of just trying to move the ball consistently and getting any kind of points on the board to win the game. It's not so much you have to stop Michael Vick,but Vick is somewhat like they used to game plan for Barry Sanders...you won't stop him...you just need to contain him.If you do that,you beat them.

2)When Kolb is starting,their ability for the [B]BIG[/B] play,goes way down. However,Kolb gives them more of a balance on Offense and more efficient one. The team focuses more on distributing the ball to all weapons and getting 1st downs.Although Kolb doesn't have Vicks rare ability,he does offer a little mobility but less of the arm downfield. So the team uses a more balance of runs,screens and dump offs to gain 1st downs.This in turn makes any playaction way more affective because of the style of play,so they are likely to catch a defense sleeping from all the short passes,than when Vick is in the game.Kolb however is prone to more sacks and relies on his passing accuracy to be affective. If he's not on his game,then it stalls an Offense with good weapons and forces the team to run the ball,which is what they do [B]not[/B] want to do. But when Kolb is accurate and playing well,there's no doubt,that their offense is more tougher to stop because of the amount of weapons they have and their ability to spread the ball around. Kolb also takes less risks than Vick...Kolb may not have the talent that Vick possesses,but he's more likely to keep your team closer in a game, towards the end of the game,but less likely to blow a team out of the water as well because of the clock he uses in games when running an offense.[B]SUMMARY:[/B] Although Vick is a much better pure athlete than Kolb,Kolb actually presents more of a problem to the Washington Redskins than Michael Vick. The reason is because the Redskins have not had the ability to blow a team out of the water on any level against anybody,but they have also been able to stay close against any team,no matter how explosive that teams Offense is. The Redskins also have used great Defensive plays off turnovers and Special teams plays to keep them alive in such tough matchups. So the best way to beat a Redskins team is good efficient play at the QB position and not some superhero,trying to make a big play everytime he steps on the field. It's why manning was able to win with No INT's,it's why Bradford was able to win in his game with the way he sustained long affective drives and why Stafford was able to win in his game against a Redskins Defense. It's also why Green Bay lost on a Rodgers late game INT to Landry and Cutler throwing darts to D.Hall. So all in all......Yea,Vick may offer the big play for philly,but he's also more likely to make a costly mistake,that keeps the redskins in the game and able to win. He's also more likely to be frustrated and play terrible in a Redskins Blowout as well. This doesn't happen with Kolb. So all in all.....I'm actually glad,we are facing Vick instead of Kolb!

and this is my report on this thing...
(sorry for any mis-spelling...That's a lot of typing)
ace[/quote]

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Needs more returns!:cheeky-sm

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;758094]Again, you skew things through your half empty view. Vick drove them down to our 34. His run that got him hurt, while excellent, was NEGATED by that penalty, and if you watch the play, the hold kept our player from getting a hand on Vick. I don't know how the drive would have finished, but you can't legitimately say he drove them down to the 1, because it wouldn't have counted even if he had not got hurt.

Maybe he was beginning too. I dunno, neither do you. You assume he was, I assume the facts in evidence, he hadn't scored yet against us, and Kolb played a different style game (as Ace did a good job explaining) that we had not game-planned for.

We won. Tomorrow is a new game. I hope we win that one too, regardless of who their qb is.[/quote]

Lets just say he brought them from his 26 to our 24 then. Thats more than 3 and out all day long. I think you get the picture. But you like to argue with me for whatever reason and accuse me of having a half empty view. You want to believe that the Skins can beat the Eagles without having to score more than 3 points in 3 quarters with Vick in the whole game, you want to believe that our D can hold Vick to 0 points in a game, then enjoy your full glass of Koolaid bro.

You obviously like Ace's explanation, Maybe we should keep our 2nd QB in and confuse the Eagles defense tomorrow. Give me a break!

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[QUOTE=aceinthehouse;758091].....I'm actually glad,we are facing Vick instead of Kolb![/QUOTE]

Ace do you really believe what you wrote?

Do you think that any coach would choose to have an offense based solely on the big play without efficiency?

You don't think maybe just maybe Vick is playing better then Kolb and gives the Eagles the best chance to win? (I mean don't look now but Vick is top 5 QB in the league i think he has the highest QB rating in the league; a rating which btw favors efficiency)

You don't have to be down on Vick's ability to believe that we can still win the game.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[quote=30gut;758118]Ace do you really believe what you wrote?

Do you think that any coach would choose to have an offense based solely on the big play without efficiency?

You don't think maybe just maybe Vick is playing better then Kolb and gives the Eagles the best chance to win? (I mean don't look now but Vick is top 5 QB in the league i think he has the highest QB rating in the league; a rating which btw favors efficiency)

You don't have to be down on Vick's ability to believe that we can still win the game.[/quote]

Yes,I do...
And if I am close to being correct with my theory,then Monday Nights game will be our biggest margin of Victory for the season to date.

lol..Course,that won't take much since that number is 6 pt's in game 1 vs dallas.

I will just say this...if Vick actually plays the whole game,the Skins win by 10 pts or more. Something we haven't done all season.

[B](I would not say this, if Kolb was starting however)[/B]
Actually...I think we lose if Kolb starts..but Shhhh,don't tell anybody.

Re: Its Fu**ing Eagles Week!!!!
 

[quote=aceinthehouse;758149]Yes,I do...
And if I am close to being correct with my theory,then Monday Nights game will be our biggest margin of Victory for the season to date.

lol..Course,that won't take much since that number is 6 pt's in game 1 vs dallas.

I will just say this...if Vick actually plays the whole game,the Skins win by 10 pts or more. Something we haven't done all season.

[B](I would not say this, if Kolb was starting however)[/B]
Actually...I think we lose if Kolb starts..but Shhhh,don't tell anybody.[/quote]

You think a theory in football can be proved right or wrong based off of 1 game?
There are so many other factors that go into winning and losing outside of QB play.

BTW- How can you explain Reid's choice of Vick over Kolb?
or how do you explain Vick being one of the top QB's in the league by QB rating?

(I wish their was a stat that measured only QBs passing and rushing numbers on 3rd down.
B/c i'm quite sure Vick converts more 3rd downs then most QB's in the league that alone puts him near the tops of QB efficiency.)

But i digress, i would like to hear the answers to the above question though.
HTTR

[QUOTE=44ever;758112]Lets just say he brought them from his 26 to our 24 then. Thats more than 3 and out all day long. I think you get the picture. But you like to argue with me for whatever reason and accuse me of having a half empty view. You want to believe that the Skins can beat the Eagles without having to score more than 3 points in 3 quarters with Vick in the whole game, you want to believe that our D can hold Vick to 0 points in a game, then enjoy your full glass of Koolaid bro.

You obviously like Ace's explanation, Maybe we should keep our 2nd QB in and confuse the Eagles defense tomorrow. Give me a break![/QUOTE]

I guess I don't like the concept of slamming a team for a close win, that's all. Pitt lost today even though they scored 26 points. Yes I want to see our team have a more effective offense. Yes I want to see games that are put away and done by the third quarter. Yes I know we are not top grade NFL caliber. But the team has played hard nose football in every contest (I just ignore the rams game ciz I hate them now ;-) ) and it deserves credits for the Ws it has on the books. I think we are going to have a tough time tomorrow night and if the offense doesn't do better I doubt we will hold the eagles in check. But could we, possibly, and then at the end of the 4th qtr I may be watching Avant actually catch the game winner. But for now, we are 1-0 against the eagles and I will enjoy that.

As a side note, I just take issue with the whole keeping it real motif, and those type comments tend to get me in an argumentative state. And also, my koolaid is just fine.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;758168]I guess I don't like the concept of slamming a team for a close win, that's all. Pitt lost today even though they scored 26 points. Yes I want to see our team have a more effective offense. Yes I want to see games that are put away and done by the third quarter. Yes I know we are not top grade NFL caliber. But the team has played hard nose football in every contest (I just ignore the rams game ciz I hate them now ;-) ) and it deserves credits for the Ws it has on the books. I think we are going to have a tough time tomorrow night and if the offense doesn't do better I doubt we will hold the eagles in check. But could we, possibly, and then at the end of the 4th qtr I may be watching Avant actually catch the game winner. But for now, we are 1-0 against the eagles and I will enjoy that.

As a side note, I just take issue with the whole keeping it real motif, and those type comments tend to get me in an argumentative state. And also, my koolaid is just fine.[/quote]

Alright bro, let's leave it at that. :food-smil HTTR

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[quote=44ever;758177]Alright bro, let's leave it at that. :food-smil HTTR[/quote]

Done and done:food-smil

A Monday night game after a bye week of a 4-4 team has got to be one of the most gruelling endurance tests known to man. Especially on a week that kicked off last Thursday!

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjG1U2uJxtg]YouTube - Philadelphia Eagles vs Washington Redskins - Michael Vick, Donovan McNabb and President Barack Obama[/ame]

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its only 14-0 right now,but its looking like a blowout.I think some of ya'll need to re-evaluate your thinking.If we come back and win this game it will be a frickin miracle of epic proportions.Im thinking right now 42-7 eagles final score,man I frickin hope im wrong.

28-0
Nope, Vick makes no difference at all


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35-7
I guess I need to change my prediction
The defense would just about have to post a shutout the rest of the way
New updated prediction is 77-7


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Well I'm talking to myself but I don't care
We've got 14
I just hope we can keep Philly from breaking our record from most points scored in a reg season game
We already hold too many records for futility,including the one we already set tonite


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Why don't you come join the game thread?