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[quote=skinsfan69;775653]I really don't get why Jim Harbaugh is getting so much attention. 7 mil per year??? lol. Only in the NFL does silly stuff like this happen. Like the guy has a magic wan or something. He's done a GREAT job at Stanford but the NFL IS NOT the Pac Ten. And regarding his brother, just cause John does a good job has nothing to do with Jim. Having a solid owner and a top front office sure helps John's cause. Not saying Jim's going fail but he's got no track record in the NFL as a head coach or even as a coordinator.[/quote]

We shall see, especially [B]if[/B] he goes to Miami with Jeff Ireland.

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[QUOTE=mooby;775641]Hey, I'm not arguing that it helps them be a better coach, I'm just saying teams look at that as a positive. I'm not a fan of hiring college coaches at all just because of the Spurrier ordeal. Hoo you should know by now that sometimes logic doesn't always work in the NFL. Spurrier never should've been hired in the first place but that didn't stop Snyder. Same thing with all the other retread college coaches, Bobby Petrino never should've left college football.

[B]EDIT: And could've mentioned this before but he runs a pro style offense at Stanford. If you think that doesn't factor into it as well you'd be wrong.[/[/B]QUOTE]

Which is what I said about 2 pages ago. It's one thing to look at a college coach and express oppinions about how he will make it at the Pro level when he doesn't run a pro system. But Harbaugh runs a pro system so I doubt that will be an issue. Where I think his problems will present itself is who he brings in to his coaching staff.

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Garrett stays with Bovine Boys

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-cowboys-coach]AP source: Cowboys pick Jason Garrett as new coach - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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[quote=SBXVII;775667] Where I think his problems will present itself is who he brings in to his coaching staff.[/quote]

Check out his current staff at Stanford some names will sound familiar.

[url=http://www.examiner.com/stanford-cardinal-football-in-san-francisco/stanford-football-coaching-staff-is-coming-together]Stanford football coaching staff is coming together - San Francisco Stanford Cardinal Football | Examiner.com[/url]

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I wonder why the owner of the Dolphins isn't catching any flack for going after a new coax& even when you already have a coach in place. Just imagine if Dan Snyder did that?

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[quote=DM72;775687]I wonder why the owner of the Dolphins isn't catching any flack for going after a new coax& even when you already have a coach in place. Just imagine if Dan Snyder did that?[/quote]

And not complying with the Rooney rule, unless he interviewed Todd Bowles and nobody knows about it.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775689]And not complying with the Rooney rule, unless he interviewed Todd Bowles and nobody knows about it.[/quote]

He's been getting flack. And he did interview Bowles (or he will, not sure it's happened yet)

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I think the Rooney Rule is a good rule, but the way it is being obviously circumvented the last few years is an absolute joke.

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Former Stanford player still connected with program just said Harbaugh is staying (we shall see)

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This makes me think a lockout is almost certain now

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[quote=Lotus;775668]Garrett stays with Bovine Boys

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-cowboys-coach]AP source: Cowboys pick Jason Garrett as new coach - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url][/quote]

I really don't know what to think about this....wonder what sandtrap has to say?

Of course I hope Garrett is a huge flop...but I worry that he is likely a big improvement over Wade. What do you guys think?....as this is the only HC change that I care about since they are in our division

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775706]This makes me think a lockout is almost certain now[/quote]

Why do you say that?

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^ because luck had a chance to make 50M and if harbaugh stays at stanford over the NFL? They know something, also Jerry Jones just said yesterday he bets on a lockout

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Well the Harbaugh deal isn't done yet. He still could be a Dolphin. And, while the public word is Luck wants to continue his college career and education, there is private buzz that he simply doesn't want to play for Carolina. Who really knows

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775679]Check out his current staff at Stanford some names will sound familiar.

[URL="http://www.examiner.com/stanford-cardinal-football-in-san-francisco/stanford-football-coaching-staff-is-coming-together"]Stanford football coaching staff is coming together - San Francisco Stanford Cardinal Football | Examiner.com[/URL][/quote]


Anyone remember RON LYNN? :vomit::eek:

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Luck is staying at Stanford.

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5995754"]Andrew Luck skipping NFL draft, will return to Stanford Cardinal - ESPN[/URL]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775710]^ because luck had a chance to make 50M and if harbaugh stays at stanford over the NFL? They know something, also Jerry Jones just said yesterday he bets on a lockout[/quote]

Well...luck staying at Stanford may be because he was hoping to play for Harbaugh or something...and he doesn't know who the new coach is now...and Jerry Jones or any owner stating opinion about a lockout aint worth much at this point...in fact it may just be a threat to gain leverage for the owners....there will be a ton of threats/opinions from owners/players going forward, most of which will mean very little.

Although, I see your point about Luck's 50M.
If there is a lockout, does that affect sign-on bonuses from the draft?
If so, it may make sense not to risk that if you are still a junior in college.

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[quote=skinsnut;775733]Well...luck staying at Stanford may be because he was hoping to play for Harbaugh or something...and he doesn't know who the new coach is now...and Jerry Jones or any owner stating opinion about a lockout aint worth much at this point...in fact it may just be a threat to gain leverage for the owners....there will be a ton of threats/opinions from owners/players going forward, most of which will mean very little.

Although, I see your point about Luck's 50M.
If there is a lockout, does that affect sign-on bonuses from the draft?
If so, it may make sense not to risk that if you are still a junior in college.[/quote]


Good question, I would think if the guy does'nt play due to a Lockout he would still get the bonus but maybe not... Greed is a B****

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[quote=SkinzWin;775724]Luck is staying at Stanford.

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5995754"]Andrew Luck skipping NFL draft, will return to Stanford Cardinal - ESPN[/URL][/quote]

Not sure if this is wise....if there is a rookie cap next year...or if he performs less than perfectly...he will lose millions.

There is a distinct possibility that this years #1 pick may be the last unregulated #1 pick in history...and he is almost a lock for it.
This may be the last year of crazy money for rookies. It will be interesting to compare this years #1 dollars to the dollars he gets next year in the draft.

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[quote=SBXVII;775667][QUOTE=mooby;775641]Hey, I'm not arguing that it helps them be a better coach, I'm just saying teams look at that as a positive. I'm not a fan of hiring college coaches at all just because of the Spurrier ordeal. Hoo you should know by now that sometimes logic doesn't always work in the NFL. Spurrier never should've been hired in the first place but that didn't stop Snyder. Same thing with all the other retread college coaches, Bobby Petrino never should've left college football.

[B]EDIT: And could've mentioned this before but he runs a pro style offense at Stanford. If you think that doesn't factor into it as well you'd be wrong.[/[/B]QUOTE]

Which is what I said about 2 pages ago. It's one thing to look at a college coach and express oppinions about how he will make it at the Pro level when he doesn't run a pro system. But Harbaugh runs a pro system so I doubt that will be an issue. Where I think his problems will present itself is who he brings in to his coaching staff.[/quote]

I didn't see it but I thought about it and was like, wait I just watched them and their pro style offense destroy VT in the second half of the Orange Bowl lol. Either way the point remains the same.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775689]And not complying with the Rooney rule, unless he interviewed Todd Bowles and nobody knows about it.[/quote]
He has just interviewed so far, and thats ok.

If he hires a coach without interviewing a minority candidate first, then that is a RR violation.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775710]^ because luck had a chance to make 50M [/quote]


.......no he didn't.People one of the only things that the NFLPU and owners agree on right now is a "Rookie Salery Cap"...the days of a draft pick getting "50" million and never having played in the NFL are over.

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[quote=Giantone;775796].......no he didn't.People one of the only things that the NFLPU and owners agree on right now is a "Rookie Salery Cap"...the days of a draft pick getting "50" million and never having played in the NFL are over.[/quote]

Yeah but that's only if a new CBA deal gets done. No deal this year and it won't matter if he got drafted or not because a lockout would happen. What if the deciding point was a rookie salary cap and they decided to table it until later because a new CBA was more important? He could still get 50 mil, although it's doubtful. The entire point is moot because he's not declaring this year anyways.

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[quote=Giantone;775796].......no he didn't.People one of the only things that the NFLPU and owners agree on right now is a "Rookie Salery Cap"...the days of a draft pick getting "50" million and never having played in the NFL are over.[/quote]

The owners already said they could do it if they wanted to last year, and they chose not too for the sake of a bargaining chip in negotiations, I assume they won't start one this year for the same reason.

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Looks like Los will test the market, said he would like to stay in wsh, but money would be a factor. I don't see him back next yr, any good CB's in FA?

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Wow, the Bay Area fans are crushed. It's been nothing but sobing callers on KNBR eviscerating the ineptness of Jed York. Allegedly he only offered 5 million dollars. I know that would make him one of the highest paid coaches in the NFL, however with all of the media hype, and the plethora of teams soliciting his services, there's no way that 5 million would of landed him in SF. Once word got out that Jed only offered 5 mill, Miami pounced and has offered 7.5-8 million a year. Epic fail by SF.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775840]Looks like Los will test the market, said he would like to stay in wsh, but money would be a factor. I don't see him back next yr, any good CB's in FA?[/quote]

Really moving away from NFL coach talk in this thread I see

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[quote=SmootSmack;775842]Really moving away from NFL coach talk in this thread I see[/quote]

LOL we need a Redskins offseason thread

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Think that Sparano is out of the Fins. Titans may keep Jeff Fisher since Vince Young is now history!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775849]LOL we need a Redskins offseason thread[/quote]

My offseason haiku not good enough for you? After the super bowl we can probably start an offseason thread, though much will likely be devoted to labor talk

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Yea true

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I guess the Niners are still alive:

RT @mortreport: After meeting w Harbaugh, source says Dolphins have decided that Tony Sparano is the best man for job. Will be retained.

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I agree with the sentiment that what the Dolphins did is cheap and greedy. How are you going to look for a new head coach with a current head coach under contract, and then decide to go with the current head coach when none of the flashier names pan out? That's just a cheap move Stephen Ross. And it's extremely disrespectful to the current head coach in place. I know Sparano hasn't wowed anybody since his first season at the helm, but if you are going to look for a new head coach, you need to do the right thing and let your current coach go. Don't be like, oh we can't find a better one, so we're just going to stick with you. I'd be pissed if I was Sparano, but it's not like he can quit because then he'll lose his salary and I doubt he wants that.

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[quote=mooby;775889]I agree with the sentiment that what the Dolphins did is cheap and greedy. [B]How are you going to look for a new head coach with a current head coach under contract[/B], and then decide to go with the current head coach when none of the flashier names pan out? That's just a cheap move Stephen Ross. And it's extremely disrespectful to the current head coach in place. I know Sparano hasn't wowed anybody since his first season at the helm, but if you are going to look for a new head coach, you need to do the right thing and let your current coach go. Don't be like, oh we can't find a better one, so we're just going to stick with you. I'd be pissed if I was Sparano, but it's not like he can quit because then he'll lose his salary and I doubt he wants that.[/quote]

Didn't we do the same thing?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775888]I guess the Niners are still alive:

RT @mortreport: After meeting w Harbaugh, source says Dolphins have decided that Tony Sparano is the best man for job. Will be retained.[/quote]

Right. After Cowher, Gruden, and Harbaugh all turned down at least $7 million a year they decided Sparano was the best fit. Sure. Fins problem is they wouldn't give any of those guys control over personnel. Ireland would still be in charge, for those 3 guys control is as important as the money. Meanwhile Harbaugh has a better offer from Stanford than San Fran. Don't know about Denver

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[quote=SmootSmack;775892]Right. After Cowher, Gruden, and Harbaugh all turned down at least $7 million a year they decided Sparano was the best fit. Sure. Fins problem is they wouldn't give any of those guys control over personnel. Ireland would still be in charge, for those 3 guys control is as important as the money. Meanwhile Harbaugh has a better offer from Stanford than San Fran. Don't know about Denver[/quote]

Niners just upped their offer

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Umm, so is Harbaugh staying at Stanford now?

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[quote=SmootSmack;775897]Niners just upped their offer[/quote]

Did they give any specific figures yet?

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Ha ha, now KNBR is reporting that the 49ers and Jim will have a deal done by tonight lol. Now this is a circus.

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[quote=Shadowbyte;775902]Did they give any specific figures yet?[/quote]

Over $6 million a year I think. Stanford has also its offer