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[quote=Mattyk;794241]You can't compare weed to heroin or coke. Don't even try, it's just laughable.

Yeah alcohol is a big problem, not downplaying that, but it's still not in the same league as hard drugs.[/quote]

I have to second that. Never read a "marijuana overdose" story.

Re: Was Jamie Dukes out of line on Ryan Mallett?
 

On the Jamie Dukes comment, I saw it live.....non-issue IMO (without going down the whole "double-standard" rathole).

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[quote=Defensewins;794260]Coke is a very [B]physically[/B] addictive drug. Plus see the Len Bias story about what happens when you do too much coke. Nobody has died from a Pot overdose.[/quote]

TOTALLY...do Coke for a while, you die.
Do Weed for a while, you act like Tommy Chong.........

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[quote=Defensewins;794260]Coke is a very [B]physically[/B] addictive drug. Plus see the Len Bias story about what happens when you do too much coke. Nobody has died from a Pot overdose.[/quote]

When you see comparisons being made to Ryan Leaf, it's more than just a red flag. Reports have indicated Mallett never failed a drug test, so stretching his indulgence to the point of addiction would seem rare under those circumstances.

To his credit he did come clean with the teams that have interviewed him though not always quite as candid with the media. He's a young man with plenty of time to straighten his life.

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[quote=Longtimefan;794271]When you see comparisons being made to Ryan Leaf, it's more than just a red flag. Reports have indicated Mallett never failed a drug test, so stretching his indulgence to the point of addiction would seem rare under those circumstances.

To his credit he did come clean with the teams that have interviewed him though not always quite as candid with the media. [SIZE=4]He's a young man with plenty of time to straighten his life[/SIZE].[/quote]

And this story may well have a happy ending, but the prospect of hanging multiple million around his neck with even.....the possibility of problems down the road is a hefty consideration............

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[quote=Hog1;794268]TOTALLY...[B][B]do Coke for a while, you die.
Do Weed for a while, you act like Tommy Chong[/B][/B].........[/quote]

not totally true

and weed is an addictive drug as well. Ive know 2 people who sought help in a rehab-like way for merry juana. moderation folks

Regardless, if Mallet is using coke, probably shouldnt move him up our draft board

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[quote=Hog1;794274]And this story may well have a happy ending, but the prospect of hanging multiple million around his neck with even.....the possibility of problems down the road is a hefty consideration............[/quote]

I definitely agree.....The prospect of investing large sums of money into a situation that could easily go sour at any moment is a risk many GM's are just not willing to take. That fear of possible relapse is an omnipresent, the though of which is bound to have an adverse influence on his draft status.

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[quote=Chico23231;794276]not totally true

and weed is an addictive drug as well. Ive know 2 people who sought help in a rehab-like way for merry juana. moderation folks

Regardless, if Mallet is using coke, probably shouldnt move him up our draft board[/quote]
The two are incomparible both in physical and mental effects on the body. Trying to substantiate such because you know a couple of potheads who needed some 12-step work to shake it..........is silly.

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From what I gather, the reason the Redskins got blew out in the Super Bowl, by the Raiders, is because they were partying their asses off via alcohol and cocaine most of the nights leading up to the game.


It's a helluva drug!

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[quote=Hog1;794279]The two are incomparible both in physical and mental effects on the body. Trying to substantiate such because you know a couple of potheads who needed some 12-step work to shake it..........is silly.[/quote]

Personal experience of watching a couple people struggle with addiction is not fun. Are you saying merry juana is not addictive? pretty sure there is alot of evidence out there stating it is.

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[quote=Chico23231;794276]not totally true

[B]and weed is an addictive drug as well[/B]. Ive know 2 people who sought help in a rehab-like way for merry juana. moderation folks

Regardless, if Mallet is using coke, probably shouldnt move him up our draft board[/quote]


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWQM6sOsd5k]YouTube - Half Baked: I Used to Suck dick for coke![/ame]

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mods must be thinking of altering this thread title.

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[quote=Chico23231;794276]and weed is an addictive drug as well. Ive know 2 people who sought help in a rehab-like way for merry juana. moderation folks[/quote]

This statement is somewhat incorrect. I'm 5th year college student, majoring in Psychology. I have taken lot of classes regarding disorders including drug addictions. I have done extensive research on marijuana itself for my paper; there are some studies that claimed marijuana as an addictive drug, however there were some biases or outdated information in those articles.. While the current research with updated information claimed that the level of addiction for marijuana depends sorely on individuals. In other words, people will experience vary consequences of smoking marijuana.

Edit: Don't take us wrong, Chico. We are not downgrading your experience with marijuana. It must be difficult for you to watch your friends going in rehab, as it was not fun for me to watch people going through that neither. I'm just saying that smoking marijuana does not automatically makes you to be addict to it.

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I'd rather Mallet be using cocaine than weed. At least you'd know he would be wide awake for film sessions.

*drum roll*

I'll be here all week folks, be sure to tip your waitress.

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Mallet made some mistakes in college, like a lot of people. Maybe he was young or immature and regrets it. Thats great I wish him the best I really do. But if there were no consequences for mistakes then one of my friends wouldn’t have the herp (don’t worry its not mlmdub) and Ryan Mallet wouldn’t have lost millions of dollars in guaranteed money. There is just wayyyy too many issues to make him a first round QUARTERBACK pick in my opinion. When it comes to character concerns I want ZERO in a quarterback youre basing the franchise on by making him your first round pick.

Sure if you can get him later and not guarantee him millions of dollars then do it. But to put a young kid that made those types of mistakes in the type of situation where he can say to himself I can just f-up and party and ill still have millions of dollars is just irresponsible. Some people make fun of Jamarus Russell when in reality he or his agent deserve an espy. The guy knew what kind of person he was and what did he do? He just signed a massive guaranteed contract so he can spend the rest of his days lazying around, eating way too much and sucking down the sizzurp. He’s living HIS dream. Good for him, sucks for the irresponsible Raiders for giving him that contract and the high hopes of their fans.

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[quote=GridIron26;794286]This statement is somewhat incorrect.[B] I'm 5th year college student[/B], majoring in Psychology. I have taken lot of classes regarding disorders including drug addictions. I have done extensive research on marijuana itself for my paper; there are some studies that claimed marijuana as an addictive drug, however there were some biases or outdated information in those articles.. While the current research with updated information claimed that the level of addiction for marijuana depends sorely on individuals. In other words, people will experience vary consequences of smoking marijuana.

Edit: Don't take us wrong, Chico. We are not downgrading your experience with marijuana. It must be difficult for you to watch your friends going in rehab, as it was not fun for me to watch people going through that neither. I'm just saying that smoking marijuana does not automatically makes you to be addict to it.[/quote]

Id leave taht part out in the future...... just kidding i was too.

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I don't think what he said was racist at all. In fact, it's plenty of people that think Ryan Mallett talks like a black guy from the hood.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;794151]I'd take Mallet over Locker, Gabbert, Newton, or Dalton.


He definitely has the arm, obviously he doesn't have the legs or a pocket presence as to how to handle pressure. He could be the next Dan Marino or he could be the next Ryan Leaf, obviously two different extremes there, but I wouldn't be surprised in I don't know 3 years or so, that we look back at this draft and say why didn't we draft Mallet?[/quote]

Ryan Mallett one of the best arms I have seen in quite sometime and he's accurate with the football. I would definitely take a chance on this kid.

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[quote=mlmpetert;794291]Id leave taht part out in the future...... just kidding i was too.[/quote]

Lol I changed my major from Lab Science Tech to Psy in my 2nd year.

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[quote=Landry44;794298]I don't think what he said was racist at all. In fact, it's plenty of people that think Ryan Mallett talks like a black guy from the hood.[/quote]

Not going to touch that one

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[quote=SmootSmack;794331]Not going to touch that one[/quote]

I won't either and I was that poor white kid that grew up in the hood.

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Link title deceiving - view Mallett video

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81f52f33/article/report-vikings-one-of-teams-looking-into-mcnabb-as-next-qb?module=HP_headlines2col]NFL.com news: Report: Vikings one of teams looking into McNabb as next QB[/url]

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[quote=GridIron26;794286]This statement is somewhat incorrect. I'm 5th year college student, majoring in Psychology. I have taken lot of classes regarding disorders including drug addictions. I have done extensive research on marijuana itself for my paper; there are some studies that claimed marijuana as an addictive drug, however there were some biases or outdated information in those articles.. While the current research with updated information claimed that the level of addiction for marijuana depends sorely on individuals. In other words, people will experience vary consequences of smoking marijuana.

Edit: Don't take us wrong, Chico. We are not downgrading your experience with marijuana. It must be difficult for you to watch your friends going in rehab, as it was not fun for me to watch people going through that neither. I'm just saying that smoking marijuana does not automatically makes you to be addict to it.[/quote]


Sorry dude, but I have seen too many potheads in my lifetime NOT to think wacky tobacky is anything other than addictive. Yeah most folks up here in Detroit move on to bigger and better things like crack, but I have known co workers and a few old friends that stuck with it and smoked it way too often not to be labeled anything other than being an addict. I have also known other friends that could just smoke it occasionally, but those folks are in a minority of the people that I know who smoke weed.

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[quote=Landry44;794298]I don't think what he said was racist at all. In fact, it's plenty of people that think Ryan Mallett talks like a black guy from the hood.[/quote]

I think this statement makes no sense.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;794203]Define most. Because the schools I went to, I saw some of that stuff going on but for the most part, the majority weren't involved in that scene. Booze and pot were all over the place for sure, but that's a different animal.

I concur. In the dorms at Eastern Mich Univ you could usually smell weed in the hallways a few times a week, but to say most kids did it would have been an huge exaggeration. IF Mallet is indeed doing that stuff he needs to get help, etc. I hope we don't get Mallet, but that is more to do with his tendency to lose his cool in pressure situations at times and choke.

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Pot is more psychologically addictive than physically. There is little to none physical withdrawal symptoms when quitting weed. Some say caffeine is harder to kick.

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Ryan Mallet keeps his eyes on the prize.
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[quote=celts32;794240]I am not an expert on drugs so I don't want to get to far into this. weed is known as more of a gateway drug. Lots of people dabble with it in college and most give it up when they enter the real world. In many instances people taking coke are advanced drug users who are heading down the wrong path.[/quote]


80% of hard drug users started out with weed. It is a gateway drug alright, to a possible personal hell.

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[quote=Mattyk;794372]Pot is more psychologically addictive than physically. There is little to none physical withdrawal symptoms when quitting weed. Some say caffeine is harder to kick.[/quote]


It depends on what the pot is laced with. THe pot sold today is not the natural stuff necessarily the boomers smoked in the 60's-70's.

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Gateway drug lol

Maybe we should just get back on topic, this is getting redonkulous

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Ryan Mallet on the phone with his agent
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[quote=GusFrerotte;794375]It depends on what the pot is laced with. THe pot sold today is not the natural stuff necessarily the boomers smoked in the 60's-70's.[/quote]

Yeah it's not your fathers weed, but it's not laced. Just stronger strains.

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Tell ya, kinda pulling for Mallet to get with a good team and succed.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;794374]80% of hard drug users started out with weed. It is a gateway drug alright, to a possible personal hell.[/quote]

And those same people probably tried alcohol first but that doesn't make beer a "gateway."

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Gruden Camp: Ryan Malett is on ESPN2 right now by the way, followed by Cam Newton

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[quote=SmootSmack;794392]Gruden Camp: Ryan Malett is on ESPN2 right now by the way, followed by Cam Newton[/quote]

Thanks

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Again Mallett's arm is just ridiculous

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[quote=Mattyk;794376]Gateway drug lol

Maybe we should just get back on topic, this is getting redonkulous[/quote]

LOL!
I was enjoying the comments.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;794397]Again Mallett's arm is just ridiculous[/quote]

He's definitely NFL ready from that perspective, some of those throws especially the back shoulder stuff is big time.

I liked how he broke down the play on the board, he knows what he's doing regarding protections and where his hots are, and he can read a D. He could be special if his character concerns don't become an issue.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;794375]It depends on what the pot is laced with. THe pot sold today is not the natural stuff necessarily the boomers smoked in the 60's-70's.[/quote]

Im sorry but you have no clue on what you are talking about. Laced with something?

The weed nowadays is kind bud which people have strained the seeds to make the weed more potent but it is nothing laced or chemical about it. Its like a seedless watermelon.

The weed they smoked in the 60-70s was crap swag.

Every grown folk I know that smokes holds down a steady job, has kids, etc. They just puff at night and on the weekends.