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[quote=firstdown;800549]That was done to prevent the killing of innocent people because it was in the middle of town. I think we really need to question our relationship with Pakistan.[/quote]

From what I read there were women and children in the compound he was in that they didn't want to harm. They also wanted a body left to assess whether they got him or not.

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[quote=mlmdub130;800406]just lit a bunch of[B] sparklers[/B] in my front yard under my flag and did a little jig. i wanted to scream and wake everyone up, tomorrow monring is gonna be nuts[/quote]


Brah?

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[quote=12thMan;800536]On a more lighthearted note, I wonder if Trump wants to see the death certificate.[/quote]Trump wants the last 10 minutes of Celebrity Apprentice re-aired :silly:

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These guys sound completely badass:

The members of Team 6 are all “black” operatives. They exist outside military protocol, engage in operations that are at the highest level of classification and often outside the boundaries of international law. To maintain plausible deniability in case they are caught, records of black operations are rarely, if ever, kept.

The development of SEAL Team 6 was in direct response to the 1980 attempt to rescue the American hostages held in Iran. The mission was a terrific failure that fell apart at many points and illustrated the need for a dedicated counter-terrorist team capable of operating with the utmost secrecy.

Johnson explains the name is allegedly an intentional lie that dates back to the time of the Cold War. At the time, there were only two other SEAL teams and the name was meant to confuse the Soviets.

DevGru belongs to the Joint Special Operations Command, an extraordinary and unusual collection of classified standing task forces and special-missions units. They report to the president and operate worldwide based on the legal (or extra-legal) premises of classified presidential directives. Though the general public knows about the special SEALs and their brothers in Delta Force, most JSOC missions never leak. We only hear about JSOC when something goes bad (a British aid worker is accidentally killed) or when something really big happens (a merchant marine captain is rescued at sea), and even then, the military remains especially sensitive about their existence. Several dozen JSOC operatives have died in Pakistan over the past several years. Their names are released by the Defense Department in the usual manner, but with a cover story — generally, they were killed in training accidents in eastern Afghanistan. That’s the code.

The highly trained operatives who killed Osama bin Laden are part of a counterterrorism group so specialized that no one can apply to join it.

Instead, they are recruited. They are chosen from existing SEAL teams, making the unit an elite within an elite.

That may be only partly true, though. National Journal says members in general can be recruited from a variety of places including the CIA.

Again, all the information comes with the “alleged” tag since the team’s work is so secretive and none of its details can ever be confirmed.


[url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/so-what-exaclty-is-the-navys-secret-seal-team-6/]So What Exactly is the Navy‘s Secret ’SEAL Team 6?’ | The Blaze[/url]

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Clearly, the guys who did this are so f'ing good at what they do it is beyond amazing. I can imagine the following scene in the Oval Office:

Obama: Okay, I have the confirmed intelligence. Team 6 is authorized to carry out the mission - kill Bin Laden and retrieve the body.

Unknown Commander (Standing with Obama - and after speaking into a small mic in his lapel): Yes sir. Bin Laden is dead sir.

Obama: Good when will the operation take place?

U.C.: It just did, sir. Bin Laden is now dead. What do you want us to with the body.

Obama: Wait, when did you kill him?

U.C.: Just now sir, after you gave the order.

Obama: Ummm, okay. Good job!

It is unfortunate for that the men who carried out this mission can't be given the parade they deserve. I am sure, given the type of people it takes to carry out this mission, that they probably feel the mission's success was its own reward and that they are getting plenty of accolades within their community (like I tell my son: do the right thing work hard, and the right people will know your worth). At the same time, it would be both cathartic and unifying for the nation to be able to shower them with cheers.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;800574]Clearly, the guys who did this are so f'ing good at what they do it is beyond amazing. I can imagine the following scene in the Oval Office:

Obama: Okay, I have the confirmed intelligence. Team 6 is authorized to carry out the mission - kill Bin Laden and retrieve the body.

Unknown Commander (Standing with Obama - and after speaking into a small mic in his lapel): Yes sir. Bin Laden is dead sir.

Obama: Good when will the operation take place?

U.C.: It just did, sir. Bin Laden is now dead. What do you want us to with the body.

Obama: Wait, when did you kill him?

U.C.: Just now sir, after you gave the order.

Obama: Ummm, okay. Good job!

It is unfortunate for that the men who carried out this mission can't be given the parade they deserve. I am sure, given the type of people it takes to carry out this mission, that they probably feel the mission's success was its own reward and that they are getting plenty of accolades within their community (like I tell my son: do the right thing work hard, and the right people will know your worth). At the same time, it would be both cathartic and unifying for the nation to be able to shower them with cheers.[/quote]

They would become marked men and it would endanger everyone they know.

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I guess all kinds of info is being released now.

So I just heard that as soon as the SEALS were informed they were going in to kill Osama, there was a loud roar and lots of cheering. And apparently Leon Paneta watched the whole thing go down on a surveillance cam real time. Damn!

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White House briefing going on right now (2:03 pm ET)

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42860195#42860195]msnbc.com Video Player[/url]

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[quote=12thMan;800604]I guess all kinds of info is being released now.

So I just heard that as soon as the SEALS were informed they were going in to kill Osama, there was a loud roar and lots of cheering. And apparently Leon Paneta watched the whole thing go down on a surveillance cam real time. Damn![/quote]

Is there anything on earth more badass than our SEALS? I heard Obama and Panetta watching the whole thing from the White House sit room.

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I love that this was a kill op from the jump.

[url=http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/02/us-binladen-kill-idUSTRE7413H220110502]U.S. team's mission was to kill bin Laden, not capture | Reuters[/url]

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A real life kill cam, sweet

I heard the pics are very graphic since he got shot in the head. We might never see them.

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[quote=Mattyk;800621]A real life kill cam, sweet

I heard the pics are very graphic since he got shot in the head. We might never see them.[/quote]

Call of Duty: Black Ops - Abbottabad Expansion Pack

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[quote=Ruhskins;800622]Call of Duty: Black Ops - Abbottabad Expansion Pack[/quote]

:laughing2

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[quote=mlmpetert;800538][URL]http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/712600/osama_bin_laden_dead.gif[/URL][/quote]

That was awesome...lol

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[quote=Mattyk;800621]A real life kill cam, sweet

I heard the pics are very graphic since he got shot in the head. We might never see them.[/quote]

I read that it was a large gunshot wound to his forehead. I don't care how graphic it is. I want to see that son of a bitch.

[URL="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/white-house-officials-debate-releasing-photographs-of-bin-ladens-corpse-1.html"]White House Officials Debate Releasing Photographs of Bin Laden’s Corpse - Political Punch[/URL]

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[quote=firstdown;800583]They would become marked men and it would endanger everyone they know.[/quote]

This.


No way in hell I would ever want anybody in Black Ops put on TV or exposed, no matter how great their service is. Chances are it would put their family (and themselves) in grave danger.

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[quote=GMScud;800625]I read that it was a large gunshot wound to his forehead. I don't care how graphic it is. I want to see that son of a bitch.

[URL="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/white-house-officials-debate-releasing-photographs-of-bin-ladens-corpse-1.html"]White House Officials Debate Releasing Photographs of Bin Laden’s Corpse - Political Punch[/URL][/quote]

I heard TWO shots

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[quote=GMScud;800625]I read that it was a large gunshot wound to his forehead. I don't care how graphic it is. I want to see that son of a bitch.

[URL="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/white-house-officials-debate-releasing-photographs-of-bin-ladens-corpse-1.html"]White House Officials Debate Releasing Photographs of Bin Laden’s Corpse - Political Punch[/URL][/quote]

They have to release it. I don't think we'll truly have closure until the public can see for themselves that he is in fact dead. Plus not releasing the photos helps give fuel to the truther movement which has died down considerably over the last few years. Please don't give them an excuse to start up again.

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So what's next for Pakistan? Seems to me they've got some serious explaining to do.

I heard that no country was willing to take Bin Laden's body, and also we buried him at sea so no one could use his grave site as a pilgrimage location. Interesting.

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[quote=NC_Skins;800626]This.


No way in hell I would ever want anybody in Black Ops put on TV or exposed, no matter how great their service is. Chances are it would put their family (and themselves) in grave danger.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Also Im pretty sure the type of person that devotes their life to service and is handpicked to join the most covert and elite special opps group within one of the most elite special opps groups in the entire world isnt really the type of guy looking for recognition and parades. I wouldn’t be too surprised if a lot of the guys involved don’t even really have the wife, kids, and a dog family life either. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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I have been reading some of the comments to the various stories. Anyone who thought holding onto the body would diffuse conspiracy theories just needs to take a look at some of them. The people making them up are so out on the fringe that they wouldn't believe it if they were could inspect the body and the DNA evidence themselves.
Here are just a few:


"I have yet to see any evidence that Bin Laden was involved in the 9-11 attacks. The FBI thinks the same and he was never indicted for that crime. That’s why he had to be killed, not captured. He could only be tried for the USS Cole and the Embassy bombing. Something is fishy."

"The main stream media has just announced that you are dead you better go dig your own grave and lay in it. This is just another false flag by the Federal liars of America. Birth Certificate is false and so is this. Wake up brain dead America!!!"

"Puhleeeeeze! No body, no proof. Less than 12 hours after alleged death he disappeared into the deep blue sea? Does Obama think the whole world is really that gullible? He may have a lot of his groupies fooled, but THAT'S IT! Lawdy...he is such a fool bought and paid for by Soros and the rest of the One World Order freaks."

Conspiracy theories are wonderful things - they let you think you are smarter than everyone else, they [I]always[/I] support your point of view, and they can never be fully disproven ('cause they just morph into a similar but different conspiracy).

Ladies and Gentlemen, Osama Bin Laden has left the building.

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[quote=GMScud;800633]So what's next for Pakistan? Seems to me they've got some serious explaining to do.

I heard that no country was willing to take Bin Laden's body, and also we buried him at sea so no one could use his grave site as a pilgrimage location. Interesting.[/quote]

I just want to see PICS!

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[quote=NC_Skins;800626]No way in hell I would ever want anybody in Black Ops put on TV or exposed, no matter how great their service is. Chances are it would put their family (and themselves) in grave danger.[/quote]

My original point was simply that it was a shame they couldn't be personally thanked by the public. I thought it implicit in the sentiment that I recognized it was impossible to do so b/c of the danger it would represent to the men who carried out the action.

Just b/c I recognize it can't be done, doesn't lessen my desire to shake the hand of each of the men who participated.

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[quote=GMScud;800633]So what's next for Pakistan? Seems to me they've got some serious explaining to do.

I heard that no country was willing to take Bin Laden's body, and also we buried him at sea so no one could use his grave site as a pilgrimage location. Interesting.[/quote]

I wonder what buried at sea really means in this case. Chopped up in a meat grinder, pissed on, and fed to the sharks perhaps?

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[quote=GMScud;800633]So what's next for Pakistan? Seems to me they've got some serious explaining to do.

I heard that no country was willing to take Bin Laden's body, and also we buried him at sea so no one could use his grave site as a pilgrimage location. Interesting.[/quote]

We need to retain our friendship with Pakistan because we have more al Qaeda cleanup to do. But we also need to revisit our positions, especially after we've done more al Qaeda mop-up. We give them civilian and military aid despite the fact that the ISI (their CIA) and the Pak military are full of al Qaeda / Taliban sympathizers. Yeah, they have some explaining to do.

As for the pilgrimage thing, bin Laden was a Salafi Muslim, meaning he and his followers should not be doing pilgrimages to tombs. But there are many non-Salafi Muslims who may have turned his grave into a shrine of sorts. The burial at sea was a good idea, despite the outcry of some people.

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[quote=Mattyk;800640]I wonder what buried at sea really means in this case. [B] Chopped up in a meat grinder, pissed on, and fed to the sharks perhaps?[/B][/quote]

Works for me.

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Another one:

" 'All of you that are claiming it's fake, try using thought for a minute. Are you calling the Navy Seals liars? Are you calling all aboard the aircraft carrier that did the burial liars? Are you calling every CIA agent that had their hands in this a bunch of liars?' Scott F

That about sums it up Scott F. And it isn't the first time or have you forgotten about Kennedy's assassination cover-up? Dems are masters at this sort of deceit. Soros' money can buy anything. And Panetta would lie through his teeth to appease Obamao."

Seriously, if you detach yourself from the need for facts and evidence, anything is possible!! joethiesmanfan where are you????

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[quote=Lotus;800641]We need to retain our friendship with Pakistan because we have more al Qaeda cleanup to do. But we also need to revisit our positions, especially after we've done more al Qaeda mop-up. We give them civilian and military aid despite the fact that the ISI (their CIA) and the Pak military are full of al Qaeda / Taliban sympathizers. Yeah, they have some explaining to do.

As for the pilgrimage thing, bin Laden was a Salafi Muslim, meaning he and his followers should not be doing pilgrimages to tombs. But there are many non-Salafi Muslims who may have turned his grave into a shrine of sorts. The burial at sea was a good idea, despite the outcry of some people.[/quote]

I agree that we need to maintain a "friendship" of sorts, but apparently our relationship with them has been pretty strained, even before this.

Bottom line is OBL was living in a custom-built, million dollar compound complete with armed guards, 18 foot walls, and razor wire, just minutes from a Pakistani military installation. There's no way in hell Pakistan wasn't knowingly harboring him. Pretty scary coming from a country that has nuclear weapons. Just saying.

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So what's more toxic - the area around the Japanese nuclear explosion or the waters where they dumped OBL?

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The crazy will be out in full force. Trump, where are you? The stage is yours!

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It was not immediately clear where the information that opened the end game was obtained. The New York Times reported Monday that detainees at the military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, gave the courier’s pseudonym to interrogators and identified him as a protégé of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the confessed mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks. But the Associated Press quoted unidentified U.S. officials as saying that CIA interrogators at secret prisons developed strands that led to bin Laden.

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42853221]US tracked couriers to elaborate bin Laden compound - World news - Death of bin Laden - msnbc.com[/url]


Seems like myabe some of that stuff actual worked.

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[quote=firstdown;800651]It was not immediately clear where the information that opened the end game was obtained. The New York Times reported Monday that detainees at the military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, gave the courier’s pseudonym to interrogators and identified him as a protégé of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the confessed mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks. But the Associated Press quoted unidentified U.S. officials as saying that CIA interrogators at secret prisons developed strands that led to bin Laden.

[URL="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42853221"]US tracked couriers to elaborate bin Laden compound - World news - Death of bin Laden - msnbc.com[/URL]


Seems like myabe some of that stuff actual worked.[/quote]

I haven't read many of the posts but I was going to mention this small nugget of information too. Reports are the information about the courier was obtained thru high level detainees at Guantanamo Bay. Nice.

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[quote=saden1;800650]The crazy will be out in full force. Trump, where are you? The stage is yours![/quote]


"I want to personally congratulate President Obama and the men and women of the Armed Forces for a job well done," Trump said in a statement [URL="http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/05/donald-trump-congratulates-obama-on-osama-bin-laden-killing-asks-for-end-to-party-politics-debate-fo.html"][COLOR=#0066cc]to ABC News[/COLOR][/URL].

“I am so proud to see Americans standing shoulder to shoulder, waving the American flag in celebration of this great victory," he added. "We should spend the next several days not debating party politics, but in remembrance of those who lost their lives on 9/11 and those currently fighting for our freedom. God Bless America!"

[URL="http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/05/02/trump_bin_laden_statement_gop_frontrunner_calls_for_temporary_pa.html"]Trump Bin Laden statement: GOP frontrunner calls for temporary partisan truce[/URL]

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[quote=mlmpetert;800656]"I want to personally congratulate President Obama and the men and women of the Armed Forces for a job well done," Trump said in a statement [URL="http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/05/donald-trump-congratulates-obama-on-osama-bin-laden-killing-asks-for-end-to-party-politics-debate-fo.html"][COLOR=#0066cc]to ABC News[/COLOR][/URL].

“I am so proud to see Americans standing shoulder to shoulder, waving the American flag in celebration of this great victory," he added. "We should spend the next several days not debating party politics, but in remembrance of those who lost their lives on 9/11 and those currently fighting for our freedom. God Bless America!"

[URL="http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/05/02/trump_bin_laden_statement_gop_frontrunner_calls_for_temporary_pa.html"]Trump Bin Laden statement: GOP frontrunner calls for temporary partisan truce[/URL][/quote]

Perhaps we should have a permanent truce on his retarded antics about Obama not being an American and questioning of his merit to attend prestigious schools? How about we cut the crap on talking childish nonsense to the Chinese and the Saudis?

The clown will be back to "I mean, look, I'm a smart guy, but, we don't have a body or pictures. We don't really know if that's him or his body double. You can't tell me all of a sudden we found the guy and killed him. I hope I'm wrong but something doesn't seem right" in no time.

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[quote=NC_Skins;800626]This.


No way in hell I would ever want anybody in Black Ops put on TV or exposed, no matter how great their service is. [B]Chances are it would put their family (and themselves) in grave danger[/B].[/quote]

Ok, not 100% applicable, but just an outstanding video anytime:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hGvQtumNAY]YouTube - You Can't Handle The Truth[/ame]

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Kudos to Rush Limbaugh:

[url=http://www.mediaite.com/online/rush-limbaugh-we-need-to-open-the-program-today-by-congratulating-president-obama/]Rush Limbaugh Osama bin Laden | Rush Limbaugh Barack Obama | Mediaite[/url]

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Kudos to Rush and Trump for at least temporarily acting civil.

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Picture has been released. He is very dead. It's pretty graphic but I've seen worse. Don't feel like posting it though as it's not fair to people who would rather not see it.
[url=http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/140347/20110502/osama-bin-laden-is-dead-and-buried-at-sea-true-or-conspiracy-theory.htm]Osama bin Laden is dead and buried at sea - conspiracy theory or true?[/url]

You can also find it here
[url=http://www.google.com/search?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1280&bih=675&site=search&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=osama+dead&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=]osama dead - Google Search[/url]

Also maybe the second biggest surprise was reading this tweet by Charlie Sheen.
charliesheen Charlie Sheen
Dead or Alive. WE PREFER DEAD! Well done SEAL team! AMERICA: #WINNING that's how we roll.... c
9 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

At one point he was offering to narrate Loose Change. Personally I was expecting him to go off the deep end again.

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Pretty much non-partisan all around.

[url=http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/05/02/potential-white-house-candidates-praise-obama-after-ubl-s-death]Potential White House Candidates Praise Obama After UBL’s Death - FoxNews.com[/url]

Another day to remind yourself how awesome it is to be American

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[quote=Dirtbag59;800670]Picture has been released. He is very dead. It's pretty graphic but I've seen worse. Don't feel like posting it though as it's not fair to people who would rather not see it.
[URL="http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/140347/20110502/osama-bin-laden-is-dead-and-buried-at-sea-true-or-conspiracy-theory.htm"]Osama bin Laden is dead and buried at sea - conspiracy theory or true?[/URL]

You can also find it here
[URL="http://www.google.com/search?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1280&bih=675&site=search&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=osama+dead&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq="]osama dead - Google Search[/URL]
[/quote]Those are the photoshoped pictures, real photos have not been released, unless I missed something.