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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;838013]I'd try not to look that far ahead Bucket.

It's nice and that would be a feat, but you can never just count wins like that until the game is played.[/quote]

I'm a fan. I'm looking far ahead as possible. That's why i'm a fan because I can hope! If I was a player it would be different.

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Didn't really know where to post this, but i noticed that on that play where Grossmans pass got batted up in the air and he swatted it down that he was actually trying aim that swat at Helu for a completion. did everyone else notice that and im just completely oblivious?

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anyone catch the giants d faking injuries last night to slow down bradford and the rams. the rams drove right down the feild killing the giants with their no huddle and when they got to the 7 two giants took a dive to stop play. the rams ended up getting a fg after about a 4 minute stoppage. imo this is cheating and hopefully goodell can take some time away from handing out fines for hits and fine the shit outta both players on the giants that went down. if they don't nip this in the bud i could easily see it getting way out of hand.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PgQULPRKLc]Deon Grant fakes an injury - YouTube[/ame]

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Kinda like fainting goats.

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[quote=mlmdub130;838037]anyone catch the giants d faking injuries last night to slow down bradford and the rams. the rams drove right down the feild killing the giants with their no huddle and when they got to the 7 two giants took a dive to stop play. the rams ended up getting a fg after about a 4 minute stoppage. imo this is cheating and hopefully goodell can take some time away from handing out fines for hits and fine the shit outta both players on the giants that went down. if they don't nip this in the bud i could easily see it getting way out of hand.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PgQULPRKLc]Deon Grant fakes an injury - YouTube[/url][/quote]

Fatal Bert was doing it for the Pats too.

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If you aint cheatin you aint trying.

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[quote=mlmdub130;838037]anyone catch the giants d faking injuries last night to slow down bradford and the rams. the rams drove right down the feild killing the giants with their no huddle and when they got to the 7 two giants took a dive to stop play. the rams ended up getting a fg after about a 4 minute stoppage. imo this is cheating and hopefully goodell can take some time away from handing out fines for hits and fine the shit outta both players on the giants that went down. if they don't nip this in the bud i could easily see it getting way out of hand.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PgQULPRKLc"]Deon Grant fakes an injury - YouTube[/URL][/quote]

It's somewhat legal I thought? Said player has to leave the game for the next play though, unless the team takes a timeout. But in any event I for some reason thought they took away timeouts for injuries? or atleast it seems like they do that.

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So wack, the defensive coordinator should be suspended and the player fined. I agree, you have to nip it in the butt before it gets out of hand like in soccer. I know that it is subjective and not easy to fine, but that was clear faking. At least hobble a bit, grab you leg and slowly drop down.

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[quote=hooskins;838086]So wack, the defensive coordinator should be suspended and the player fined. I agree, you have to [B]nip it in the butt[/B] before it gets out of hand like in soccer. I know that it is subjective and not easy to fine, but that was clear faking. At least hobble a bit, grab you leg and slowly drop down.[/quote]

I can't say I've ever heard that expression...

Giants could have at least had just one person fall, not two.

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lol bud**

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Looking around I guess there really is no rule against it. But the league should send a message. Instead of passing out fines they should look at it as if the team cheated and award the Rams with the victory. The league should basically say that because the Giants and Chargers had players who faked injuries then it's considered cheating and due to that the team "forfiets" the game. Rule that if the opposing team did not win the game then the losing team has become the winner due to cheating by the opponant.

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I thought it was funny as hell. All teams have done this its just they FU and two players did it at the same time.

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[quote=SBXVII;838098]Looking around I guess there really is no rule against it. But the league should send a message. Instead of passing out fines they should look at it as if the team cheated and award the Rams with the victory. The league should basically say that because the Giants and Chargers had players who faked injuries then it's considered cheating and due to that the team "forfiets" the game. Rule that if the opposing team did not win the game then the losing team has become the winner due to cheating by the opponant.[/quote]

How do you prove they faked the injury? They could just say thet got so tired they got light head and alomost passed out and there is no rule against falling down because of this.

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Everyone does it, it's cheap and it's shitty. The commish should definitely look into fining guys for it.

I think it's a bit extreme to call it cheating though.

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They should have just run the play. It was obvious that Grant was faking it...I spotted it immediately.

The Giants' D was getting winded and run down the field. The Rams had some serious momentum going and that craptactic killed it.

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lol I noticed that when it happened, I was like man what a dick move

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/20/league-could-fine-for-faking-injuries-if-it-could-be-proven/]League could fine for faking injuries if it could be proven | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=SBXVII;838085]It's somewhat legal I thought? Said player has to leave the game for the next play though, unless the team takes a timeout. But in any event I for some reason thought they took away timeouts for injuries? or atleast it seems like they do that.[/quote]

they have to leave the feild for one play unless a timeout is called. during the last two minutes of either half teams are automatically charged a timeout, i beleive there is a clock run off if they have no timeouts but not 100% on that. it is technically legal under the rules that are in place now, but it's just dirty, and imo it's borderline cheating because of the way they are manipulating the rules to work for them.

it will undoubtedly be a very case to case type of reveiw, but to say the only way to fine them is if they admit there was an injury is not the awnser. in some circumstances it might not even have that large of an impact of the game it self. in this instance though the rams were running their hurry up to precision and had the giants gasping for air and were most likely about to score. instead the giants have two guys go down faking injuries and slowing down the rams offesnse, while not having to burn any of their timeouts. the giants then get a break and get to regain their composure. it's just wrong.

i really think goodell has to do something to the giants be it the staff, the players, or both, the latter being my preference. they did this on mnf with the whole country watching, this is the prime time to set an example.

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How about this...you hold up the game and have to leave for an injury...you sit for a quarter and your team gets charged a timeout for stopping the clock.

That will make them think twice about it...maybe.

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ohh eli

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[quote=firstdown;838100]How do you prove they faked the injury? They could just say thet got so tired they got light head and alomost passed out and there is no rule against falling down because of this.[/quote]

And there in lies the problem. But even if they were dehydrated in most cases they are taken into the locker room and and IV put in to get rehydrated. You'll never see two guys go down walk off the field, stand on the sideline, and come back in during the next play. Usually someone who has had a fainting spell, or has had a dizzy spell is sitting on the bench being attended to by the physician. They want to know why they had the issue in the first place.

Again I know it might be hard to determine, which is your arguement and the league does not have a rule because the Refs are not doctors and they don't want players staying on the field playing (as in concussions) if they are truly injured. But if you use some common sense (which is all I'm asking) if a player went down due to injury then they would be on the sideline getting looked at, carried off the field, or something. They don't walk off the field and stand on the sideline with out attention waiting for their turn to go back in.

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[quote=mlmdub130;838142]they have to leave the feild for one play unless a timeout is called. during the last two minutes of either half teams are automatically charged a timeout, i beleive there is a clock run off if they have no timeouts but not 100% on that. it is technically legal under the rules that are in place now, but it's just dirty, and imo it's borderline cheating because of the way they are manipulating the rules to work for them.

it will undoubtedly be a very case to case type of reveiw, but to say the only way to fine them is if they admit there was an injury is not the awnser. in some circumstances it might not even have that large of an impact of the game it self. in this instance though the rams were running their hurry up to precision and had the giants gasping for air and were most likely about to score. instead the giants have two guys go down faking injuries and slowing down the rams offesnse, while not having to burn any of their timeouts. the giants then get a break and get to regain their composure. it's just wrong.

i really think goodell has to do something to the giants be it the staff, the players, or both, the latter being my preference. they did this on mnf with the whole country watching, this is the prime time to set an example.[/quote]

Yes, thank you for reminding me. Maybe if the team in the lead is the one using this tactic (as the Giants were) then instead of a time run off they add more time to the clock and take away a timeout of the team using said tactic. Or in this situation they could have called unsports man like conduct and moved the Rams half the distance to the goal or put them on the 1 yrd line. Or given the Rams an extra play to get into the endzone.

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[quote=mlmdub130;838147]ohh eli[/quote]

I don't know why I'm thinking that someone spliced just a part of what Eli had said in reference to a question. That clip alone sounds bad. lol. But had we heard the whole segment ...... no maybe not. Maybe it was just about another players package. lol

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[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Michael-Boley-celebrates-TD-by-pegging-ball-at-e?urn=nfl-wp7513"]Michael Boley celebrates TD by pegging ball at end zone bystanders - Shutdown Corner - NFL*Blog - Yahoo! Sports[/URL]

"4. The throw had more juice on it than anything Eli Manning completed on Monday night."

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ELI should just be quiet the rest of his life SMH

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[quote=mlmdub130;838037]anyone catch the giants d faking injuries last night to slow down bradford and the rams. the rams drove right down the feild killing the giants with their no huddle and when they got to the 7 two giants took a dive to stop play. the rams ended up getting a fg after about a 4 minute stoppage. imo this is cheating and hopefully goodell can take some time away from handing out fines for hits and fine the shit outta both players on the giants that went down. if they don't nip this in the bud i could easily see it getting way out of hand[/quote]

LOL...really?...cheating???:hater:

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what about it isn't cheating?

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[quote=Giantone;838185]LOL...really?...cheating???:hater:[/quote]

I see. Albert Haynesworth's next stop. Big Blue. They could use his fine acting skills.

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[quote=Giantone;838185]LOL...really?...cheating???:hater:[/quote]

Forget cheating. That shit was hella embarrassing.

Makes the Giants D look like some serious BITCHES.

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[quote=GreekSkin;838186]what about it isn't cheating?[/quote]

So what is the difference of maybe not getting off another player when the play is over to run off time,maybe the ball rolls away from the ref....anything to take time away from the other team,clock management.:goodjob:

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[quote=wilsowilso;838192]Forget cheating. That shit was hella embarrassing.

Makes the Giants D look like some serious BITCHES.[/quote]


wow....class.

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[quote=Giantone;838195]wow....class.[/quote]

You know you'd be mad if a Skin did a little embellishing against the Gmen. Admit it.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;838197]You know you'd be mad if a Skin did a little embellishing against the Gmen. Admit it.[/quote]


Sorry , I'd think it was a good play....smart move.Maybe your mad becuase you never thought of it.

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[quote=Giantone;838198]Sorry , I'd think it was a good play....smart move.Maybe your mad becuase you never thought of it.[/quote]

Seen it plenty of times. Haynesworth is obvious, oh and Landry did it once in a preseason game. I do not approve.

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[quote=Giantone;838195]wow....class.[/quote]

I never attended any CLASS where they taught grown men to fall on the ground like toddlers.

That isn't NFL conduct.

That's English Premier League jive turkey garbage.

I feel bad that you have to try and defend that pitiful display.

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[quote=Giantone;838198]Sorry , I'd think it was a good play....smart move.Maybe your mad becuase you never thought of it.[/quote]

Watch it again. 2 Giants fell to the ground like they were shot (possible in NJ).

The LB #57 Williams looked over and saw Grant was on the ground too and immediately got back up.

If you're not embarrassed by that...wow.

Those two, plus Boley should be getting some fines this week.

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[quote=wilsowilso;838201]I never attended any CLASS where they taught grown men to fall on the ground like toddlers.

That isn't NFL conduct.

That's English Premier League jive turkey garbage.

I feel bad that you have to try and defend that pitiful display.[/quote]

LOL...right.NFL conduct,.....what is NFL......conduct?

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[quote=Giantone;838198]Sorry , I'd think it was a good play....smart move.Maybe your mad becuase you never thought of it.[/quote]

lol... If a Redskin defender did this, we would have a thread about kicking him from the team most likely.

That shit was terrible. Two guys both went to the ground lol. I saw it happen live and scared the hell out of my dog because I started rolling laughing. I understand your loyalty to your team, but to say we are mad because we haven't though of it is silly.

We didn't need to fake anything from slowing down your offense in week 1. They were not on the field long enough. :goodjob:

I guess it's Karma though.. A team that fakes injuries has most of the injured players in the NFL.