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SBXVII 10-10-2011 11:26 AM

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[quote=hooskins;845877]From my understanding, the 49ers use 'Los in more zone coverages than he was used in here. Don't want to make any conclusions, but perhaps that has helped him with the INTs.

Can't rule out good fortune, low sample size and playing better either.[/quote]

I don't know I always thought he was good Man-to-Man but sucked in Zone coverage which is where he would get beat every other play. Hall is more of a Zone coverage player but sucks Man-to-Man.

hooskins 10-10-2011 11:33 AM

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Sure, he is a better man corner, but perhaps being in zone more reduces variables for Los so he can focus more on the ball when it comes his way?

Stuck in TX 10-10-2011 11:33 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;845875]I wouldn't necessarily call Kolb a stud though, but other than that you're right on the money. Not to mention that Reid has been right down Vinny-esque with his offseason moves.[/quote]

Wouldnt call Schaub a stud either...I am using that word out of context. How about this, they are both QBs that the Falcons and Eagles are/were going to miss and perhaps cause/caused the fanbase to second guess front office moves.

And since I live in CO I feel the need say something about Tebow. The fans here are like rabid minks wanting Tebow to start. Orton is the butt of all the jokes, and if Jesus Christ himself were to walk on and go under center, he would be booed. Tebow has big play ability but lacks fundamentals. Remind you of anyone? *cough*Tony Romo*cough*. I forsee the Broncos winning some good games on some insane plays. The thing to watch, however, will be whether or not he revels in it and accepts his role, or commits to the film room and being a better QB.

Chico23231 10-10-2011 11:39 AM

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Maybe the Falcons shoulda drafted defense instead spending all their picks on Julio Jones

CrustyRedskin 10-10-2011 11:40 AM

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The Pack has been shredding everyone's D.

mooby 10-10-2011 11:42 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;845883]Maybe the Falcons shoulda drafted defense instead spending all their picks on Julio Jones[/quote]

You'd think that'd be the logic after getting blown out by GB in the playoffs and giving up 48 points, but their line of thinking went

"If only we had another wideout, that way we could score more points against elite teams."

instead of:

"Boy we just gave up 48 points in the playoffs, maybe we should invest in defense."

Lotus 10-10-2011 11:43 AM

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I hope Roman Harper gets a ginormous fine for his bush league hit.

hooskins 10-10-2011 12:01 PM

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^me too. Really bad sportsmanship to take a cheap shot after your team got beat.

BleedBurgundy 10-10-2011 12:06 PM

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[quote=Lotus;845886]I hope Roman Harper gets a ginormous fine for his bush league hit.[/quote]

I'm going to "third" this. I don't know wtf he was thinking. A just punishment would be to lock him in a room with Steve Smith for 20 minutes. Dude obliterates teammates, can only imagine what he'd do with Harper's punk ass.

SirClintonPortis 10-10-2011 12:32 PM

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[quote=Stuck in TX;845881]Wouldnt call Schaub a stud either...I am using that word out of context. How about this, they are both QBs that the Falcons and Eagles are/were going to miss and perhaps cause/caused the fanbase to second guess front office moves.

And since I live in CO I feel the need say something about Tebow. The fans here are like rabid minks wanting Tebow to start. Orton is the butt of all the jokes, and if Jesus Christ himself were to walk on and go under center, he would be booed. Tebow has big play ability but lacks fundamentals. Remind you of anyone? *cough*Tony Romo*cough*. I forsee the Broncos winning some good games on some insane plays. The thing to watch, however, will be whether or not he revels in it and accepts his role, or commits to the film room and being a better QB.[/quote]

Romo actually has very sound mechanics. As physical specimen, he is one of the top dogs. But mentally, the dude just can't get it together. Oh, and Romo loves throwing picks to the right side. Chris Horton knows.

If anything, Tebow compares better with Michael Vick.

Ruhskins 10-10-2011 01:35 PM

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Texans OLB Mario Williams out for the season.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/report-mario-williams-has-torn-pectoral-muscle/2011/10/10/gIQAs6xzZL_blog.html]Mario Williams out for the season with torn pectoral muscle - The Early Lead - The Washington Post[/url]

The AFC South is up for grabs.

htownskinfan 10-10-2011 01:49 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;845904]Texans OLB Mario Williams out for the season.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/report-mario-williams-has-torn-pectoral-muscle/2011/10/10/gIQAs6xzZL_blog.html]Mario Williams out for the season with torn pectoral muscle - The Early Lead - The Washington Post[/url]

The AFC South is up for grabs.[/quote]

Yep,especially with the Texans already having lost Andre johnson for a while.Their recieving corp behind him is really weak and if they dont get their running game going again their in big trouble.Oakland was giving up all kinds of yards on the ground but they stuffed Houston.Same could go for Philly this week,we should be able to gouge them thru the run but Grossman doesnt scare anybody so I see them stuffing the box and forcing grossman to beat them

htownskinfan 10-10-2011 01:50 PM

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[quote=Lotus;845886]I hope Roman Harper gets a ginormous fine for his bush league hit.[/quote]

Missed it,who did he hit?

hooskins 10-10-2011 01:58 PM

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The Harper hit on Steve, the "Good One", Smith:

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Saints-Harper-should-expect-a-fine-for-this-hit-video.html]Saints' Harper should expect a fine for this hit (video) | National Football Post[/url]

tryfuhl 10-10-2011 02:14 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;845879]I don't know I always thought he was good Man-to-Man but sucked in Zone coverage which is where he would get beat every other play. Hall is more of a Zone coverage player but sucks Man-to-Man.[/quote]

he was better in man when shutting down receivers but when he had a chance to come to the ball rather than have the ball come to him were the times that he got his few picks if I recall correctly

you'd also have to look at things like the safety play and whatnot to see if he's being put in a position to make less mistakes or reduce the cost of them

skinsfaninok 10-10-2011 02:15 PM

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Houston will win the South but only by a game most likely

tryfuhl 10-10-2011 02:24 PM

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smith is one scrappy little bastard with great leverage for his size

skinsfaninok 10-10-2011 02:39 PM

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Merril Hodge just said on SC that the skins will win the EAST because they have the best defense and run game in the division

12thMan 10-10-2011 02:44 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;845904]Texans OLB Mario Williams out for the season.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/report-mario-williams-has-torn-pectoral-muscle/2011/10/10/gIQAs6xzZL_blog.html]Mario Williams out for the season with torn pectoral muscle - The Early Lead - The Washington Post[/url]

The AFC South is up for grabs.[/quote]

Williams has the 4th most sacks since being drafted, but somehow it still doesn't feel like he's lived up to expectations.

Anyone else feel this way?

SirClintonPortis 10-10-2011 02:45 PM

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[quote=12thMan;845916]Williams has the 4th most sacks since being drafted, but somehow it still doesn't feel like he's lived up to expectations.

Anyone else feel this way?[/quote]

Being on an typically irrelevant team in past years might have something to do with it.

CrustyRedskin 10-10-2011 02:48 PM

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Williams > Bush

SirClintonPortis 10-10-2011 02:51 PM

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;845918]Williams > Bush[/quote]

Sproles has been able to do the same things Bush could...but he also stays healthy.

CrustyRedskin 10-10-2011 02:58 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;845919]Sproles has been able to do the same things Bush could...but he also stays healthy.[/quote]

Yeppers and from what i saw Sproles does it better. He's a good player to have on a team.

NC_Skins 10-10-2011 03:27 PM

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[quote=hooskins;845910]The Harper hit on Steve, the "Good One", Smith:

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Saints-Harper-should-expect-a-fine-for-this-hit-video.html]Saints' Harper should expect a fine for this hit (video) | National Football Post[/url][/quote]

A late hit out of bounds is one thing, that hit right there should not only draw a fine, but a suspension (1-2 game) as well. There really is no place for that sort of crap in football.


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLNBkRJyDYM&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

Smitty grabbed Jenkins like a rag doll and tossed him around. Definitely made him his bitch.

warriorzpath 10-10-2011 03:32 PM

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[quote=mooby;845776]Yeah the Niners def. Lookin good. I think they prob. Have the best shot at winning a weak NFC West this year. And it's nice to see the giants and Philly choke. Also screw Carlos Rogers, I think he just set a new career high for picks in a season and we're only 5 weeks in.[/quote]

I don't like rogers either, but I wonder if it's the secondary/db coach in San Fran that is making the difference with rogers.

mredskins 10-10-2011 03:42 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;845930]A late hit out of bounds is one thing, that hit right there should not only draw a fine, but a suspension (1-2 game) as well. There really is no place for that sort of crap in football.


[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLNBkRJyDYM&feature=player_embedded]A closer look at the Smitty scuffle - YouTube[/url]

Smitty grabbed Jenkins like a rag doll and tossed him around. Definitely made him his bitch.[/quote]


God Cam Newton is a monster, dude is so big.

SirClintonPortis 10-10-2011 05:25 PM

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;845922]Yeppers and from what i saw Sproles does it better. He's a good player to have on a team.[/quote]

He's been consistent in fantasy. Not elite, but a good 10-15 points every week. Even him sitting on the bench means someone else not benefitting. :D

htownskinfan 10-10-2011 05:34 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;845930]A late hit out of bounds is one thing, that hit right there should not only draw a fine, but a suspension (1-2 game) as well. There really is no place for that sort of crap in football.


[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLNBkRJyDYM&feature=player_embedded]A closer look at the Smitty scuffle - YouTube[/url]

Smitty grabbed Jenkins like a rag doll and tossed him around. Definitely made him his bitch.[/quote]

The guy deserves a fine but I wouldnt be surprised to see a small fine on smith also,he shouldnt have gotten in the middle and grabbed his facemask and held onto it

hooskins 10-10-2011 05:39 PM

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LOL I love how Cam Newton comes out of the scrum roaring...

itvnetop 10-10-2011 08:10 PM

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Cris Carter just told CJ "I came to Detroit to tell you that you're one of the best wide receivers in the NFL." Too late!

mooby 10-10-2011 08:34 PM

Woohoo for sound problems on mnf's broadcast so far.

mooby 10-10-2011 08:41 PM

Anybody else watch Barry Sanders' MNF intro there? Loved it. Keep it host team specific, fresh every week instead of the same song over and over again.

NC_Skins 10-10-2011 08:50 PM

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Looks like the Bears OL can't handle the noise in the dome. been a long time since the Detroit fans had anything to cheer about.

SirClintonPortis 10-10-2011 08:53 PM

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It's time for le jeune Stafford.

(lol I don't know French).

Ruhskins 10-10-2011 08:54 PM

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;845998]Looks like the Bears OL can't handle the noise in the dome. been a long time since the Detroit fans had anything to cheer about.[/QUOTE]

Cutler looks like he wants to be anywhere except at that game.

Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G.

mooby 10-10-2011 08:54 PM

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;845998]Looks like the Bears OL can't handle the noise in the dome. been a long time since the Detroit fans had anything to cheer about.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, 3 false starts already. The lions d-line is scaring the bears o-line just by being there lol. Good for the lions.

SirClintonPortis 10-10-2011 08:59 PM

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[quote=mooby;846001]Yeah, 3 false starts already. The lions d-line is scaring the bears o-line just by being there lol. Good for the lions.[/quote]

Yeah, that Bears o-line has been crappy for at least three years. I'm glad we aren't competing with them for worst o-line anymore.

SirClintonPortis 10-10-2011 09:07 PM

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Sooo, what's the record for false starts in a game? I'm feeling an itch to bump a certain thread. :D

NC_Skins 10-10-2011 09:08 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;846003]Yeah, that Bears o-line has been crappy for at least three years. I'm glad we aren't competing with them for worst o-line anymore.[/quote]

No doubt. They went the Vinny Cerrato method of building a team.


Also, bad challenge by the Lions. Pass wasn't tipped.

mooby 10-10-2011 09:08 PM

[QUOTE=SirClintonPortis;846005]Sooo, what's the record for false starts in a game? I'm feeling an itch to bump a certain thread. :D[/QUOTE]

You just might. Kellen Davis might break the record all by himself lol.


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