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[quote=NC_Skins;889117][IMG]http://p.twimg.com/AmlgwBACEAE1AcX.jpg[/IMG]

Looks like our QB coach is getting a head start.[/quote]

RG3 scratching his head and thinking god I hope I don't go to Washington.

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[quote=redskins5044;889118]RG3 scratching his head and thinking god I hope I don't go to Washington.[/quote]

To me it looks like he is scratching his head and saying, 'whelp... It could be worse, I could get drafted by the browns.'

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[quote=mbedner3420;889120]To me it looks like he is scratching his head and saying, 'whelp... It could be worse, I could get drafted by the browns.'[/quote]

He wants to take his talents to south beach.

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[quote=mbedner3420;889120]To me it looks like he is scratching his head and saying, 'whelp... It could be worse, I could get drafted by the browns.'[/quote]

No he's scratching his head saying I knew I should of used HEAD & SHOULDERS damm that selsun blue.

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[quote=GTripp0012;889068]The other thing a potential trade from 6 to 2 would represent is that the Redskins think Ryan Tannehill isn't an NFL quarterback.

So like the Eli Manning trade, if the Redskins get RG3 and become relevant again and he's everything you ask for, but Tannehill also goes on to become a top 10 QB in the NFL, then that's effectively losing the trade. Because even offering that much for RG3 isn't just an evaluation on Griffin, but Tannehill as well.[/quote]

well yeah, I think thats why they do the deal. They dont believe Tannehill is a ready to be a starter in the league. They look at RG3 and say he is ready. The quarterback comparison, talent vs value/draft position was the absolute first question they answered. Of course its a statement on Tannehill. If he was of equal talent and NFL ready, they would take him at 6.

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Can't help but think the Browns have the edge if they want them. The Rams would only lose 2 spots and can still pick who they want, and they get two first round picks instead of later round picks. In my mind, Cleveland just has a better potential offer if they want him.

Also can't help but wonder - we were 5-11, and the browns were 4-12. It's fun to have trounced the SuperBowl winning NY Giants x 2 last year, but it did end up costing us several draft picks if we do this deal for RG3.

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[quote=Chico23231;889132]well yeah, I think thats why they do the deal. They dont believe Tannehill is a ready to be a starter in the league. They look at RG3 and say he is ready. The quarterback comparison, talent vs value/draft position was the absolute first question they answered. Of course its a statement on Tannehill. If he was of equal talent and NFL ready, they would take him at 6.[/quote]

Some people this weekend have apparently been saying, and I don't know where this is coming from, that there is a team (maybe Miami, maybe Seattle?) that is looking to move up above where the Redskins currently are to get Tannehill.

I mean I guess that means the Vikings spot at #3, which seems insanely high to get RT. But if that's the case then maybe the Redskins feel they need to make this move. The danger of course is in getting fooled by a bluff.

As for the Eskin rumors...he's an ass. But that's beside the point, that's not quite what I've heard (that's closer to what I'd heard to get Luck at 1) but it's certainly feasible.

Been out all day, but from what I've heard some more reports of Orakpo being part of a potential deal are starting to come out.

Heard we spent a lot of time with Kirk Cousins today as well. Anyone know if he ran today? If so, what was his 40?

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Smoot, based on what you know now, what scenarios do you think are most likely for us as far as getting a qb?

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[quote=SmootSmack;889136]Heard we spent a lot of time with Kirk Cousins today as well. Anyone know if he ran today? If so, what was his 40?[/quote]


4.93 in the 40.


[url=http://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker?id=2532820&workout=FORTY_YARD_DASH&position=QB]NFL Events: Combine Tracker[/url]

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God, I hope we stay away from Cousins!!!
Luck
RGIII
Osweiler
Foles
Tannehill
Wilson
Cousins
Weeden

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[quote=SmootSmack;889136][B]Some people this weekend have apparently been saying, and I don't know where this is coming from, that there is a team (maybe Miami, maybe Seattle?) that is looking to move up above where the Redskins currently are to get Tannehill.[/B]

I mean I guess that means the Vikings spot at #3, which seems insanely high to get RT. But if that's the case then maybe the Redskins feel they need to make this move. The danger of course is in getting fooled by a bluff.

As for the Eskin rumors...he's an ass. But that's beside the point, that's not quite what I've heard (that's closer to what I'd heard to get Luck at 1) but it's certainly feasible.

Been out all day, but from what I've heard some more reports of Orakpo being part of a potential deal are starting to come out.

Heard we spent a lot of time with Kirk Cousins today as well. Anyone know if he ran today? If so, what was his 40?[/quote]

And that certainly isnt surprising. Like Mayock was stating on Friday or Thursday on the radio...after last year with Locker going top 10 and Ponder and Gabbert going where they were picked, its a trend. Clubs are desperate to get a franchise QB.

I wouldnt think it would be Miami, Seattle makes a ton of sense to want to do that.

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[quote=celts32;889035]Howard Eskin ‏ @howardeskin
I'm told by people within Redskins they are prepared to offer picks 1,2 and 3 this year, at least a 1 next year to move up to get RG3 at 2[/quote]

Smoke screen. Gotta love them. Force the Browns to give up both their #1's and more just to get him then we can trade up from round 2 to the second (late 1st) round pick and get a WR to go along with Weeden.

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[quote=NC_Skins;889139]4.93 in the 40.


[url=http://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker?id=2532820&workout=FORTY_YARD_DASH&position=QB]NFL Events: Combine Tracker[/url][/quote]

Thanks. Cousins, for those panicking, is being seen as a potential developmental 3rd string

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;889137]Smoot, based on what you know now, what scenarios do you think are most likely for us as far as getting a qb?[/quote]

Nothing new really. Had been hearing Dolphins for quite a while. Seems like others are talking about it now as well. But, like I said last night, the Redskins interest in moving up for him (and not Luck) is a minor surprise for me. So I may have been wrong about that. Have to see how it plays out.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;889093]Im ok with that trade... If we get a quality WR in Free Agency like VJax or Colston. As well as a quality Vetran lineman and a corner.

[B]Redskins with Cap room= Dangerous Danny[/B][/quote]

That may be true, but does it equal Dangerous Bruce and Mike because that is who is calling the shots not the owner.

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We need to start a Dan Marino rumor about RG3 so that teams pass him up.

If no one knows what the dan marino rumor is, it was that he had done cocaine in college.

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If the Redskins don't get RG3 in the draft, then there's always Grossman and Beck. Perhaps Jonathan Crompton will surprise everyone in training camp and be the starter on opening day.

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Leave

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[quote=celts32;889103]I have read other rumors that the Dolphins, Seahawks and Browns have talked to the Rams also. At this point it's all rumors but it sounded like you are stating as fact or at least that you have inside info that says that [B]the skins are out there alone making outlandish trade offers[/B].[/quote]Well, I feel you could have dismissed that thought when I described the price as reported by Eskin like this:

[quote=GTripp0012;889065]The price tag reported by Eskin doesn't seem super exorbitant to me[/quote]

Describing it as the Redskins vs. time simply points out the reality that the pick wouldn't get moved before draft day if the Redskins were to abstain from being part of the discussions. If you take out the biggest player for the pick, then there simply isn't much trade interest.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;889163]If the Redskins don't get RG3 in the draft, then there's always Grossman and Beck. Perhaps Jonathan Crompton will surprise everyone in training camp and be the starter on opening day.[/quote]

Unacceptable! Now go to the corner and think about what you wrote.

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[quote=SmootSmack;889136]Heard we spent a lot of time with Kirk Cousins today as well. Anyone know if he ran today? If so, what was his 40?[/quote]

He ran 4.8ish on his faster time.
He threw the ball decent too.

if anyone wants a laymans re-cap from TV feed only:

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-central/46710-the-official-2012-nfl-combine-thread-13.html#post889158[/url]

and yes I am a football nerd

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;889163]If the Redskins don't get RG3 in the draft, then there's always Grossman and Beck. Perhaps [B]Jonathan Crompton[/B] will surprise everyone in training camp and be the starter on opening day.[/quote]

I just feel he is a our Jeremy Lin. Cromp-sanity

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[quote=Lotus;889168]Unacceptable! Now go to the corner and think about what you wrote.[/quote]

He has to put the DUNCE hat on to. LMAO.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;889005]If we can pick RGIII and Stephen Hill. I would be dancing in the living room on draft day.[/quote]

as would I!!!!!

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Stephen Hill or Dwight Jones................Would rather have Jones, but Hill is looking better every day

Im not too high on WRs they can come out of anywhere, most of the great wrs of all time played at unknown schools.. Jerry rice, Moss, TO etc.. I know Marshall is relevant but not really

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Smoot

Heres what I don't get. Why would the Rams want Orakpo? They have Quinn and Long. Are we trading him to another team to get their first rounder? If so what team?

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;889194]Smoot

Heres what I don't get. Why would the Rams want Orakpo? They have Quinn and Long. Are we trading him to another team to get their first rounder? If so what team?[/QUOTE]

Idt rak will be moved

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[quote=skinsfaninok;889196]Idt rak will be moved[/quote]

yeah, I'd rather give up 2 firsts a 2nd and 3rd than 1st orakpo and 2nd.


What I'm about to say won't make any sense at all, but:

I would only trade Orakpo for Luck, but I think Griffin might be better than Luck.

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Right now we are all like kids before Christmas. We all want to see the presents before the big day, all these rumors are like us searching in our parents closet for them.

Everyday I flip flop on who I would like them to get as a QB and what they should do in the draft.

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[quote=GTripp0012;889167]Well, I feel you could have dismissed that thought when I described the price as reported by Eskin like this:



Describing it as the Redskins vs. time simply points out the reality that the pick wouldn't get moved before draft day if the Redskins were to abstain from being part of the discussions. If you take out the biggest player for the pick, then there simply isn't much trade interest.[/quote]

So what do you suggest the Redskins do at QB until draft day if RG3 is who they really want? Do they do nothing and hope to win this stare down with the Rams? Do they blow 20 mil of this years cap room on Manning when they really want RG3? As of now John Beck is their only QB on the roster. Maybe making the trade now costs an extra pick or two but it also saves a bunch of wasted cap dollars on unneeded contingency plans...

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[quote=celts32;888791]Lets get that 2nd pick! I will drive Orakpo or anyone else to the airport...[/quote]

Again, I have been tuning into the Warpath for about a decade. This is my second post. This is a classic quote.

Man...

I am more excited this offseason than I have been...in about a decade.

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[quote=alpineONE;889203]Again, I have been tuning into the Warpath for about a decade. This is my second post. This is a classic quote.

Man...

[B]I am more excited this offseason than I have been...in about a decade.[/B][/quote]

That can change really quickly believe me...

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[quote=alpineONE;889203]Again, I have been tuning into the Warpath for about a decade. This is my second post. This is a classic quote.

Man...

[B]I am more excited this offseason than I have been...in about a decade.[/B][/quote]

I agree, at least since Gibbs made his return. I think the excitement is do to the possibility to acquire a QB with talent we havent had in a long long time. Whether its Manning, RG3 or Luck, I feel the time is now to land one of them and the possibility to do so is real.

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[quote=Chico23231;889205]I agree, at least since Gibbs made his return. I think the excitement is do to the possibility to acquire a QB with talent we havent had in a long long time. [B]Whether its Manning, RG3 or Luck, I feel the time is now to land one of them and the possibility to do so is real.[/B][/quote]

Right now it feels as such, I just hope its not one of those Christmases when you really wanted the new Optimus Prime Transformer but ended up getting a couple of Go-Bots.

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I would prefer to see RG3I over Manning at this point. I want youth and someone who can be there for the long haul. Drafts are still a crap shoot but I like what RG3 brings to the table, he is talented and poised you definitely have to have that in DC. We have not had a true franchise QB in 15 years.

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Would hate to see Orakpo leave.

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What we need to happen is this


Miami signs Manning
Drafts Tannehill

Cleveland signs Matt Flynn

The price for RG3 becomes a lot cheaper. And our chances of keeping orakpo become better.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;889208]Right now it feels as such, I just hope its not one of those Christmases when you really wanted the new Optimus Prime Transformer but ended up getting a couple of Go-Bots.[/quote]

That is one of the best quotes I have seen in a long damn time! Thanks for the laugh!

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;889209]I would prefer to see RG3I over Manning at this point. I want youth and someone who can be there for the long haul. Drafts are still a crap shoot but I like what RG3 brings to the table, he is talented and poised you definitely have to have that in DC. We have not had a true franchise QB in 15 years.[/quote]

The thing about getting Griffin even at the 1st, 2nd, 3rd price propsed is it ironically offers the franchise a ton of flexibility.

Aside from finally getting a franchise QB it gives Shanahan the QB he needs to be successful on offense it also gives the team a safety net if Shanahan fails as a coach and needs to be replaced.

I mean can you guys imagine having to scrap the entire offense AGAIN? We've spent all this time looking for zone blocking lineman and one cut backs, to have to go back and replace them while looking for a QB at the same time, safe to say it would be a disaster.

What I learned from Michael Vick in Atlanta (ie having an insanely athletic QB) is even if he sucks at playing QB you'll still win games. I just can't imagine a situation where RGIII fails to help us win games outside of medical reasons.