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RGIII is pretty thin. Would you take the trade-off of increased heft/durability for less mobility?

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[B]*Sniff* That's my quarterback! [/B]

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[quote=The Goat;915908]RGIII is pretty thin. Would you take the trade-off of increased heft/durability for less mobility?[/quote]

No. He's going to dominate because of his speed. (and arm...and brain...)

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[quote=Monkeydad;915914]No. He's going to dominate because of his speed. (and arm...and brain...)[/quote]

He's gonna take some shots...inevitably. However, from the reel I've watched he does have strong pocket presence, which should only improve. Hopefully those shots are minimized dramatically.

Oline better step up bigtime...this is where Mike needs to work his magic.

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i think its going to be big for him learning ways to avoid uneeded shots by sliding/getting to the ground or out of bounds

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[quote=The Goat;915908]RGIII is pretty thin. Would you take the trade-off of increased heft/durability for less mobility?[/quote]

He's 220, could probably put on 10 lbs of muscle without it changing his game any. I'm not really worried about it.

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The guy is a little on the smaller side but he has a solid frame and there are plenty of qb's in the nfl that are his size or smaller and they survive. I think we are questioning his durability because most of us can't stop thinking of him as Mike Vick. He isn't he is going to be his own man. Lets see how he plays the nfl game before we start worring about him getting injured.

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Getting injured is a legitimate concern for any QB.
And if the offense is gonna contain some designed QB runs he's gonna have to learn to get down.
For as much as Cam is praised for being a power runner and running over people, he's very situationally aware about when and where to fight for more yards or the get down.
Griffin is gonna have to learn when and how to slide/get down.

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Listened the presser don't get the vibe that we'll be run the option.
I think Mike S. was just applauding Griffiin's skillset.
Griffin has the speed to really challenge defenses on the perimeter which can be done through Mike S. offense without running the option.

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[quote=30gut;915995]Listened the presser don't get the vibe that we'll be run the option.
I think Mike S. was just applauding Griffiin's skillset.
Griffin has the speed to really challenge defenses on the perimeter which can be done through Mike S. offense without running the option.[/quote]

Pretty much the impression I got.

Though I could see Griffin going out for a pass every now and then

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[quote=30gut;915990]Getting injured is a legitimate concern for any QB.
And if the offense is gonna contain some designed QB runs he's gonna have to learn to get down.
For as much as Cam is praised for being a power runner and running over people, he's very situationally aware about when and where to fight for more yards or the get down.
Griffin is gonna have to learn when and how to slide/get down.[/quote]

Not only that, he's much bigger than RGIII and probably dishes out as much punishment, if not more, than what his would be tacklers would dish out.

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[quote=30gut;915995]Listened the presser don't get the vibe that we'll be run the option.
I think Mike S. was just applauding Griffiin's skillset.
Griffin has the speed to really challenge defenses on the perimeter which can be done through Mike S. offense without running the option.[/quote]

I did get a different impression, and it could just be Mike's standard presser subterfuge, but when he was talking about Griff being able to run the option as well as guys like Cam, and Tebow, who both had success respectively, running the option at this level, it lead me in another direction.

I hear what you're saying though, and agree that MS was also doting over all of RG3s athletic ability, and intelligence.

I also agree with the fact that RG3s speed can really threaten defenses on the perimeter within the parameters of the system, but I believe that there is an antidote to most offensive attacks, it's just not every defense that can execute it effectively. So the thing that concerns me is running much of the same (play action bootleg, stretch right, stretch left) without again becoming predictable, and redundant. I do think adding option looks could only bode well if we want to keep defenses off balance, pull more defenders into the box etc.

I'm talking simple folds, like shotgun zone read option. Things that wouldn't stray so far from our current system, but would cause defenses to question what they were seeing.

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[quote=skinsguy;916001]Not only that, he's much bigger than RGIII and probably dishes out as much punishment, if not more, than what his would be tacklers would dish out.[/quote]Right, but the point i was going for was that while Cam's size is a benefits its his ability to avoid the taking unneccesary that allowed him to play 16 games.
If you think back to the Redskins vs Cam game: Cam ran the ball 10 times.
The only times I recall him getting hit while running was twice on the goalline trying to score.
He scored on a long run untouched, ran out of bounds a couple times, and at different times layed down/slid in front of Landry, Fletcher and Rocky52 IIRC.

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[quote=fanarchist;916006]So the thing that concerns me is running much of the same (play action bootleg, stretch right, stretch left) without again becoming predictable, and redundant. I do think adding option looks could only bode well if we want to keep defenses off balance, pull more defenders into the box etc.

I'm talking simple folds, like shotgun zone read option. Things that wouldn't stray so far from our current system, but would cause defenses to question what they were seeing.[/quote]Don't get me wrong, I certainly see the benefit and potential of using the zone-read as a package in the offense.
Like I said before:
[quote=30gut;915782]If anyone would like to discuss the possibiliites for option football within this thread; please feel free as I get bored updating/responding to my own posts:

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/47172-new-look-offense-same-but-better-6.html#post905681[/url][/quote]
But from listening to that presser and knowing/looking at [I][B]Kyle[/B][/I] I don't see us running much or any zone-read although imo we should.
If you have a talent like Griffin you almost owe it to yourself to try some things.

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[quote=30gut;915995]Listened the presser don't get the vibe that we'll be run the option.
I think Mike S. was just applauding Griffiin's skillset.
Griffin has the speed to really challenge defenses on the perimeter which can be done through Mike S. offense without running the option.[/quote]

Thats is how I interpreted it.

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what can griff do that vick didn't do to us in the mnf blowout?

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Los, I can't tell you right now but give me a year and let's see what he can do. Then I'll tell you.

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[quote=30gut;916007]Right, but the point i was going for was that while Cam's size is a benefits its his ability to avoid the taking unneccesary that allowed him to play 16 games.
If you think back to the Redskins vs Cam game: Cam ran the ball 10 times.
The only times I recall him getting hit while running was twice on the goalline trying to score.
He scored on a long run untouched, ran out of bounds a couple times, and at different times layed down/slid in front of Landry, Fletcher and Rocky52 IIRC.[/quote]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8236127c/Cam-Newton-meet-London-Fletcher]NFL Videos: Cam Newton, meet London Fletcher[/url]

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:laughing-

Very nice.

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Wow, just noticed his calves.

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[quote=Monkeydad;916067][url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8236127c/Cam-Newton-meet-London-Fletcher]NFL Videos: Cam Newton, meet London Fletcher[/url][/quote]

[quote=30gut;916007]The only times I recall him getting hit while running was twice on the [I][B]goalline trying to score[/B][/I].[/quote]

NFLN "Panthers QB Cam Newton tries leaping for a touchdown but is stopped by London Fletcher and the Redskins at the [I][B]goal line. [/B][/I]"

[QUOTE=30gut;916185]NFLN "Panthers QB Cam Newton tries leaping for a touchdown but is stopped by London Fletcher and the Redskins at the [I][B]goal line. [/B][/I]"[/QUOTE]

I am surprised they didn't call a penalty, looked like a shot to the back of the head [sarcasm]

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I was just in my friends shop here in Fredericksburg and the NFLPA RG3 shirts are already out in the retail world. They didn't waste any time.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;915433]This is unprecedented. I can't say I expected this......AT ALL.

In all seriousness though I'm a little worried that Griffin isn't wearing a rib protector as we all know to well the potential hits that mobile QB's can face on gameday.
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.....or maybe RG3's wearing one but it's hard to see due to his lean frame?

Update: Never mind, found a few pictures of him at Baylor wearing one. Good to know, those ribs are worth millions upon millions of dollars according to Don Lapre.[/quote]

i agree. To be honest... ive read into that for awhile. I think hell be fine as long as he stays on that field.
GET THE KID A DAMN RIB PROTECTOR lol

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He wears a rib protector and I'm pretty sure all QB's today wear a rib protector. Can't think of any off the top of my head that don't wear one.

He wears a rib protecter folks. Next.

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^ Yep. Why would he need one for a photo shoot? Relax, people.

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Griff making another smart move...trademarking his name and the variations of it.


[url=http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/05/report-redskins-robert-griffin-iii-trademarking-name-phrase-unbelievably-believable/1]Report: RGIII trademarks name, 'Unbelievably Believable'[/url]

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[quote=Monkeydad;916266]Griff making another smart move...trademarking his name and the variations of it.


[url=http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/05/report-redskins-robert-griffin-iii-trademarking-name-phrase-unbelievably-believable/1]Report: RGIII trademarks name, 'Unbelievably Believable'[/url][/quote]

Smart man!

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Didn't Lavar try something similar, and nearly got in a fight with the NFLPA because they have some sort of rights agreement. I probably am the only one, but I think this is a misstep. One of those legal savvy PR bad moves that may end up hurting him (think Bentley only bigger)

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Arrington didn't want his name used for jersey sales unless he got a bigger cut. I think this situation is different.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;916290]Didn't Lavar try something similar, and nearly got in a fight with the NFLPA because they have some sort of rights agreement. I probably am the only one, but I think this is a misstep. One of those legal savvy PR bad moves that may end up hurting him (think Bentley only bigger)[/quote]

Just check out eBay and all of the fake/generic "RG3" shirts. This is a move he needed to make.

Lavar's situation is completely different, he had no nickname/moniker to protect.

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[quote=Mattyk;916291]Arrington didn't want his name used for jersey sales unless he got a bigger cut. I think this situation is different.[/quote]

Ahhh good memory sir. I think Griffin is confident, but not arrogant like Arrington.

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[quote=Mattyk;916291]Arrington didn't want his name used for jersey sales unless he got a bigger cut. I think this situation is different.[/quote]

Thanks for clarifying Matty.

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I can see how they would grant a trademark for RG3 & RGIII, but he certainly can't be the only person in history named Robert Griffin III?

Does that mean if my name is Robert Griffin, my son and grandson can't have that name?

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Pretty sure it's just for RGIII, RG3, etc. as it pertains to his likeness.

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[quote=Leader In Sports;916371]I can see how they would grant a trademark for RG3 & RGIII, but he certainly can't be the only person in history named Robert Griffin III?

Does that mean if my name is Robert Griffin, my son and grandson can't have that name?[/quote]

No, that means you, your son, and your grandson can't attempt to profit off merchandise bearing RG3 or any trademarked variation of that monikor.

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[quote=Mattyk;916372]Pretty sure it's just for RGIII, RG3, etc. as it pertains to his likeness.[/quote]

The article does say he is also trademarking "Robert Griffin III"

[url=http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/05/report-redskins-robert-griffin-iii-trademarking-name-phrase-unbelievably-believable/1?AID=4992781&PID=4003003&SID=x5450l8sd76c]RGIII trademarks name, 'Unbelievably Believable'[/url]

[quote]Griffin filed applications for trademarking RGIII, RG3, Robert Griffin III and the phrase "Unbelievably Believable."[/quote]