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[quote=Chico23231;934730]those Gano jerseys probably half price now, pick yourself up a couple

:FIREdevil[/quote]


:cheeky-sm


Bought 5 already!



Funny as it may, it's not even that I'm a huge Gano supporter, but I just don't like blaming people for things they can't control (blocked kicks) or when the talent they bring in is not really any better. My issues still center around the ST coach.

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

Gano's development was stunted by the lack of a Red Snapper on the roster.

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[quote=NC_Skins;935099]:cheeky-sm


Bought 5 already!



Funny as it may, it's not even that I'm a huge Gano supporter, but I just don't like blaming people for things they can't control (blocked kicks) or when the talent they bring in is not really any better. My issues still center around the ST coach.[/quote]

word, I think Danny has done a decent job...his punt/kick coverages are very solid, I dont think he has had great kickers or punters talent wise to work with in his tenure. Id say he has had below average returners as well. I still think Banks can be special, even after last year. Sav is the best punter we've had in a long time and last year had a really good year.

Cundiff is the right choice in my opinion because of his consistancy within 45 yards. 3 points in our offense is extremely important and we need something we can count on.

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[quote=Monkeydad;935092]I'm on page 4, old man.[/quote]

Achsually I r was just holding back. I haz whole forum on one page. lolololloolllloolllol. COME AT ME BRO> BRO COME AT ME!

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

Cundiff=Suisham

Shanahan will find out real quick when Cundiff can't make 50 yard or longer FG which Gano could.

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

simple solution to our kicking situation:

i think cundiff stays as our extra point specialist
we sign rackers for field goals ≤ 49 yards
we sign gano for kickoffs + fgs > 49 yards

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

[quote=CrazyCanuck;934693]HATE this move. I'm not doing any work today.

God help Cundiff if he misses some of those <50 "layups". I will smack him down over and over in the smackdown thread.[/quote]

B.Cundiff 46 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-N.Sundberg, Holder-S.Rocca.

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[quote=mredskins;934608]Stats, numbers, percents, etc... can be manipulated any way to either sound good or bad.

Look her it is manipulated to sound like Cundiff is good:

[I]6. The best kicking leg in the league: whacked. You can look it up. Over the past two years, Billy Cundiff is a 90 percent field goal kicker inside the 50 (53 of 59), and no other kicker averaged more yards per kickoff (69.5) or had more touchbacks than his 84. But the Ravens, bugged more by his 1-of-7 from 50-plus in the last two seasons than his crucial miss in the AFC title game last January, cut him Sunday. They prefer to save $1.5 million on the cap and go with a four-year kickoff man from the University of Texas, Justin Tucker. Risky move for a Super Bowl contender.
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Bottom line; Redskins said we need more accuracy inside 50 yards then we do outside of 50 yards. They are rolling the dice. They want to make sure they make the layups and take a chance of on their 3PT percentage. That is what Cundiff gives them over Gano.[/quote]

0-1 as a Redskin

B.Cundiff 46 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-N.Sundberg, Holder-S.Rocca.

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I can already see Cundiff is going to have no slack here eh?

Who says Gano would have made it? Or Rackers?

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[quote=Mattyk;935329]I can already see Cundiff is going to have no slack here eh?

Who says Gano would have made it? Or Rackers?[/quote]

Gano and Rackers would have both made kicking backwards and launching the ball with the back heel of their weakside foot.

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[quote=Mattyk;935329]I can already see Cundiff is going to have no slack here eh?

Who says Gano would have made it? Or Rackers?[/quote]

well, if Gano woulda had it blocked, we could have always blamed the Line, snapper, or danny smith. you cant win round here

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[quote=Chico23231;935338]well, if Gano woulda had it blocked, we could have always blamed the Line, snapper, or danny smith. you cant win round here[/quote]

If it was their fault, yes. A shank is a shank. Gano had plenty of those with no fault but his own.

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

cundiff did a lot better on kickoffs. so even if they end up tied in FG%, that's still a major difference.

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I didn't watch tonight's game. There were some concerns about Cundiff struggling on FG 50 yards and over. Luckily that 46 yard miss came in preseason. But Gano would have made that particular attempt.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;935388]I didn't watch tonight's game. There were some concerns about Cundiff struggling on FG 50 yards and over. Luckily that 46 yard miss came in preseason. But Gano would have made that particular attempt.[/quote]

But he would've missed one of the other 3 that Cundiff made.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;935388]I didn't watch tonight's game. There were some concerns about Cundiff struggling on FG 50 yards and over. Luckily that 46 yard miss came in preseason. But Gano would have made that particular attempt.[/quote]

Right, Gano woulda made all of them. 4 for 4, because he never missed, ever.

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

[quote=Chico23231;935392]Right, Gano woulda made all of them. 4 for 4, because he never missed, ever.[/quote]

Exactly.

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Looks like there really is some competition at the kicker spot.

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/28617/Robert-Griffin-III-nails-20-yard-field-goal-in-warmups/Default.aspx]Robert Griffin III nails 20 yard field goal in warmups[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;935329]Who says Gano would have made it? Or Rackers?[/quote]


Gano does. So does Rackers!! :silly: :cool-smil :laughing-



Juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust kidding.

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

[quote=REDSKINS4ever;935388]I didn't watch tonight's game. There were some concerns about Cundiff struggling on FG 50 yards and over. Luckily that 46 yard miss came in preseason. But Gano would have made that particular attempt.[/quote]

Well, let's cut the guy some slack. He had only been signed 48 hours before the game. New snapper, new holder.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;935454]Looks like there really is some competition at the kicker spot.

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/28617/Robert-Griffin-III-nails-20-yard-field-goal-in-warmups/Default.aspx]Robert Griffin III nails 20 yard field goal in warmups[/url][/quote]

RG3 can be our back up kicker with Zo as the backup punter. LOL.

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Truth be told, I'm more worried about this.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8314433/nfl-use-replacement-officials-start-regular-season]NFL to use replacement officials for start of regular season - ESPN[/url]

Ugghhhh....

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

The over 50 yard kick argument bothers me.
Screw 50 yard kicks.
I want to win by scoring touchdowns, not struggling to get to the opponents 40.

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;935490]The over 50 yard kick argument bothers me.
Screw 50 yard kicks.
I want to win by scoring touchdowns, not struggling to get to the opponents 40.[/quote]

Ok how about 45 yards and above? Just like Suisham, he'll miss those.

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

If you eliminate the blocked kicks (debateable - see Dallas loss), there is not a single game in which a better field goal kicker would have won it for us last year. Obviously it is hard to hold constant other factors like momentum, situational play calls, etc. I guess my point is that Gano-to-Cundiff change doesn't matter that much.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;935522]Ok how about 45 yards and above? Just like Suisham, he'll miss those.[/quote]

I agree with AW for once. I'd rather have a guy automatic from inside the 50, because when you think about it, what's the average for kicks attempted inside the 50 versus outside the 50? Gano might have made the 50 yarders, but you never knew if he was going to make a simple 30 yarder or not. Those are the ones that hurt, when you go on a long drive and instead of even getting 3 out of it you get nothing.

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;935480]Well, let's cut the guy some slack. He had only been signed 48 hours before the game. New snapper, new holder.[/quote]

Exactly! Geez people....

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

Yeah, FGs are no substitute for TDs.

Still seems to really hurt a team's morale to get inside the opponent's 30 yd line, and get no points.

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;935490]The over 50 yard kick argument bothers me.
Screw 50 yard kicks.
I want to win by scoring touchdowns, not struggling to get to the opponents 40.[/quote]

Its more like the 32 yard line for a 50 yard kick.

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[quote=firstdown;937047]Its more like the 32 yard line for a 50 yard kick.[/quote]

bfd

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Cundiff deserves some props

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[quote=Mattyk;939047]Cundiff deserves some props[/quote]glad i started him in my money league

[QUOTE=Mattyk;939047]Cundiff deserves some props[/QUOTE]

Great how this gets almost zero traction versus a preseason miss.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;939047]Cundiff deserves some props[/QUOTE]

Yes he does

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

Cundiff was money. Maybe he'll go on to be our Akers.

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[quote=Mattyk;939047]Cundiff deserves some props[/quote]

Yep. Made all of his kicks, booted the ball out of the end zone, and even helped to stop Sproles on a kickoff return.

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

Cundiff was a really good pickup. I'm generally forgiving on Gano and didn't think bringing in Rackers meant anything, but Cundiff is probably a top ten NFL kicker. And he was available. So kudos to the front office for getting him.

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[quote=GTripp0012;939072]Cundiff was a really good pickup. I'm generally forgiving on Gano and didn't think bringing in Rackers meant anything, but Cundiff is probably a top ten NFL kicker. And he was available. So kudos to the front office for getting him.[/quote]

Baffled me when they cut him and even more so now. I mean he's a top tier kickoff guy and fine enough on FGs. Weird decision.

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

[quote=FRPLG;939095]Baffled me when they cut him and even more so now. I mean he's a top tier kickoff guy and fine enough on FGs. Weird decision.[/quote]

Ravens fans have scapegoated him. I wonder if there was a similar effect in the front office. Ozzie Newsome is so good that it seems unlikely, but still...

Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano
 

All I'll say is Cundiff did great for his first game with the Redskins. Lets see how he does the other 15 games. And remember, he was cut in Baltimore because he missed a SUPER BOWL kick, not like a regular season game winner or 41 yarder against the saints.