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Alvin Walton 09-10-2012 10:19 AM

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Billy Cundiff gets my vote in the poll.

53Fan 09-10-2012 10:19 AM

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[quote=12thMan;939241]It just something I love about seeing a big white boy like Paulsen drag defenders down field. I was like this is Redskins football right here.

No offense to big white boys:)[/quote]

That made me laugh. :) He definitely looks old school. He's one hardnosed Redskin for sure. Great effort.

cdskins26 09-10-2012 10:22 AM

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[quote=punch it in;939246]So do we bring cooley back?[/quote]

Strictly on a momentum basis if it ain't broke don't fix it

SmootSmack 09-10-2012 10:28 AM

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I should probably go with Cundiff but I'm gonna go with my preseason pick for 2012 Redskins FA MVP

JoeRedskin 09-10-2012 10:28 AM

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1. Garcon looked very much like a No. 1 WR;

2. For this one game, the emphasis on upgrading the WR corp appearred to be the right approach. Again, which of our WR's last year makes the plays that Garcon and Robinson made yesterday?

3. The line did a journeyman's job (The run game was unimpressive, Morris had a 96 yards but only after a ton of carries). At the same time, if the O-Line didn't win the game, it certainly did not lose it;

4. Never heard Polumbus' name called or having his guy steam roll any significant plays (I may be wrong on that - if so, I am sure someone will point it out).

5. On D, if they are playing anyone but an elite QB like Brees, I am convinced they would have had several (not just one or two) more sacks. Brees just gets rid of the ball so damn fast. Not sure the same is true of many of the other QB's we have to face. (Bradford, Dalton, Freeman, Ponder). On front 7 played very well, making sure the back end was not having to hold coverage forever. When Brees had time, it was b/c he was scrambling away from pressure. It seemed rare that he was able to simply stand in the pocket and survey the field. If they can keep it up, I think our front 7 is going to terrorize some QB's.

punch it in 09-10-2012 10:36 AM

[QUOTE=cdskins26;939250]Strictly on a momentum basis if it ain't broke don't fix it[/QUOTE]

Totally agree just wondering where all the people who thought they knew better than the brass did when we cut him disappeared to.

Monkeydad 09-10-2012 10:36 AM

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SO tough to pick anyone.


Gomes and the whole secondary.

All of the WRs..Garcon obviously, but especially Robinson for replacing Garcon's production. Banks too.

Paulsen...clutch.

Morris...helped by his whole offensive line that played shockingly well.

Kerrigan's pressure.

Cundiff!



Somehow, it seemed that once the real games started, all of our weaknesses suddenly disappeared...the O-line, the secondary, the kicker question mark. We played as good as a game as we could. Outside of the blocked punt, we really contained the Saints as well as they possibly can be. 32 rushing yards, held Brees to 25 points, most of them late in the game when they had to abandon the run and throw deep.

Meks 09-10-2012 10:45 AM

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He threw the ball 40+ times... and we held up... i like that stat

CRedskinsRule 09-10-2012 10:46 AM

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[quote=punch it in;939257]Totally agree just wondering where all the people who thought they knew better than the brass did when we cut him disappeared to.[/quote]

Cooley was never looked at in place of Paulsen, they co-existed last year nicely. Let's look at the drops by Davis, or the non-existent Niles Paul. Let me put it this way, if Grossman is gonna be inactive gameday, I'd rather have that be Cooley.

Chico23231 09-10-2012 10:48 AM

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im still drunk from yesterday...what was in that kool aid?

mooby 09-10-2012 10:49 AM

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I gave my "non-RG3" game ball to AlfMo. He never had one easy run at all yesterday, and all of his yard were hard earned. They were prepared for us trying to run the ball on them, and we stuck with it even though it wasn't working. But doing that definitely helped take pressure off RG3 to have the game that he did. It's important to stick with the run when it isn't working, and that's what we did.

CRedskinsRule 09-10-2012 10:51 AM

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Leave it to the lawyer for double talk!!!
[quote=JoeRedskin;939205][B]Voted in the poll for Morris.[/B] Almost went with Gomes who seemed to play a heck of a game. Really, never heard Wilson's name called and I guess that's a good thing. [/quote]

[quote=JoeRedskin;939253]...
3. The line did a journeyman's job ([B]The run game was unimpressive[/B], Morris had a 96 yards but only after a ton of carries). At the same time, if the O-Line didn't win the game, it certainly did not lose it;
...
[/quote]

:cheeky-sm

Man this is a good morning to be a Skins Fan

Gtothearry 09-10-2012 10:52 AM

The media is definitely giving Griffin his credit. However, what I find funny is how before the game the media was saying the skins were walking into a buzz saw. 1. Playing for Payton 2. The players being reinstated 3. Vindication for the penalties placed upon them by the NFL. 4. Etc., etc.

Today I'm hearing how the Saints are a different team and had to many distractions.

Not that it matters but I feel like the media is now trying to detract from what the Skins did yesterday.

punch it in 09-10-2012 10:53 AM

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;939262]Cooley was never looked at in place of Paulsen, they co-existed last year nicely. Let's look at the drops by Davis, or the non-existent Niles Paul. Let me put it this way, if Grossman is gonna be inactive gameday, I'd rather have that be Cooley.[/QUOTE]

Niles paul was supposed to be the next shannon sharpe according to alot of the idiots on es. Thats one of the reasons i was labled a troublemaker and eventually booted off. I disagreed. Lol. Im hoping davis shakes the drops off. Though he did make a nice effort to get open and snag that beautiful throw by rg3. There are a handful of guys id rather see cooley than. My point was not that i dont like cooley or think he has a little left in the tank but when we cut him some people were giving up on the season.

punch it in 09-10-2012 10:55 AM

[QUOTE=Gtothearry;939267]The media is definitely giving Griffin his credit. However, what I find funny is how before the game the media was saying the skins were walking into a buzz saw. 1. Playing for Payton 2. The players being reinstated 3. Vindication for the penalties placed upon them by the NFL. 4. Etc., etc.

Today I'm hearing how the Saints are a different team and had to many distractions.

Not that it matters but I feel like the media is now trying to detract from what the Skins did yesterday.[/QUOTE]

Mike and mike. Nfl on sirius and mad dog radio all saying still that new orleans was a tuff first game due to all those reasons.

skinsfan69 09-10-2012 10:56 AM

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How about Aldrick Robinson? We need to see more of this guy.

44 goes 50 gut 09-10-2012 10:57 AM

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Lot of guys missing from that Poll Fletcher and Wilson were IMO the clear defensive MVP's, IMO if that poll read "besides Griffin Fletcher and Wilson" it would be better. Most fans don't know what they're looking at with CB's so unless there's an INT or a corner blitz that works you're not going to hear their name, Wilson was huge. Gomes was my runner up so I voted for him.

Morris had a good game he found the holes the line made on his TD's, got into the second level a couple times later in the game, made some yards with his vision mostly late when their D was gassed and some nice moves at the second level, not going to diminish what he did, it just didn't have the play making impact that Wilson's HUGE defended passes, Fletcher's TD saving backside pursuit, or Gomes' INT + return that lead to a TD, along with his solid work in run support and even some pressure on Brees. Gomes actually had a monster game.

IMO the difference between them and Morris yesterday is simply that those were "plays made" at crucial moments that often didn't get made in the past versus a very solid all around run performance that will make a lot of fantasy owners happy (at least for a week or two) , but none the less is something that Mike Shanahan could seemingly get our of his left shoe, or the spare tire from his car. Again not putting down Morris at all, he could be the next big thing, but he's just joined (in no order):

Helu, Royster, K Williams, Ryan Torain, Tatum Bell his name sake and successor scant few months later: Mike Bell, Reuben Droughns, Olandis Gary, Travis Henry, Mike Anderson and etc. as RB's who look(ed) good in Shanahan's scheme...

punch it in 09-10-2012 10:59 AM

[QUOTE=Chico23231;939264]im still drunk from yesterday...what was in that kool aid?[/QUOTE]

I dont know but ill have another!

Gtothearry 09-10-2012 11:02 AM

[QUOTE=punch it in;939275]I dont know but ill have another![/QUOTE]

I'll take a pitcher full!

T.O.Killa 09-10-2012 11:10 AM

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I think we should give kudos to our GM together with Shannahan not only for making the biggest trade in our history, but for all the late round draft choices that helped us win that game.

SFREDSKIN 09-10-2012 11:16 AM

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[quote=punch it in;939271]Mike and mike. Nfl on sirius and mad dog radio all saying still that new orleans was a tuff first game due to all those reasons.[/quote]

Unfortunately there's one idiot who disagrees, Colin Cowherd. He blamed it on the environment, whatever.

Chico23231 09-10-2012 11:21 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;939287]Unfortunately there's one idiot who disagrees, Colin Cowherd. He blamed it on the environment, whatever.[/quote]

Cowherd is a POS. He loves him some cowboys though

44 goes 50 gut 09-10-2012 11:24 AM

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[quote=Gtothearry;939267]The media is definitely giving Griffin his credit. However, what I find funny is how before the game the media was saying the skins were walking into a buzz saw. 1. Playing for Payton 2. The players being reinstated 3. Vindication for the penalties placed upon them by the NFL. 4. Etc., etc.

Today I'm hearing how the Saints are a different team and had to many distractions.

Not that it matters but I feel like the media is now trying to detract from what the Skins did yesterday.[/quote]

Pet topic of mine. It is something you notice more and more as you get older, the Media is a never ending narrative that changes to suit their needs and fill their air time/pages/blogs.

Anyone remember when LaCanfora cited an anonymous source "close to the team" that John Beck was the starter and the competition between him and Rex was a sham? The source was Vinny Cerrato ON THE RADIO! Word for word match. Only Jason didn't bother to mention that it was something crazy eye Vinny said off the cuff over the air, he pretended it was an anonymous source because that sounds a lot better than Vinny talking out his a$$.

Brett Favre retirement was almost entirely a media creation, every couple months an ex team mate on a radio station would speculate that they "thought he would come back" and every time this would be reported as "sources close to favre say he's going to come back"...

Back when Peyton hadn't won a super bowl the media was already setting up a "can't win the big one, is he the next Dan Marino" narrative.

It's not that they speculate, it's that they PRE SPECULATE, like "okay if this happens THIS WILL BE THE STORY LINE"

This year we have the "tebow is going to be a distraction to Sanchez" pre-narrative.

It's everywhere, it's never ending it's nearly preditory (or vulture like) and it changes and morphs...

So no surprise what 24 hours ago were reasons that the Saints were going to trounce the Skins 24 hours later are now reasons why the Skins don't deserve credit.

The media wants to be seen as omnipotent or at least totally authoritative... So they change the narrative after the fact to fit the hindsight. They also do things like predicting incredible likely outcomes which end up overall being very bad predictions; such as picking all last years good teams to be good, and all last years bad teams to be bad, on an case by case basis they are likely to be correct, (the colts are going to be bad again! Well no s***) but overall they look like fools because the NFL is not so predictable... But of course they don't focus on what they get wrong.

hail_2_da_skins 09-10-2012 11:27 AM

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Mike and Kyle Shanahan get my game ball. Mike for having the guts to stay committed to the youth movement. Starting RGIII and Alfred Morris. Trusting Cousins as second string quarterback. Kyle for sucking in his pride and catering the offense to RGIII talents. The video clip of Donovan McNabb must have hit home because Kyle did exactly what Donovan complained about, he adjusted the offense to RGIII talents. I swore I was watching the Baylor spread offense. I want to see how the offense progress as teams scheme against it. I live in St Louis, so I will be at the game Sunday with my family. I hope to be singing Hail to the Redskins as the Ram fans file out of the stadium.

SmootSmack 09-10-2012 11:28 AM

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People only hear what they want to hear

44 goes 50 gut 09-10-2012 11:32 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;939262]Cooley was never looked at in place of Paulsen, they co-existed last year nicely. Let's look at the drops by Davis, or the non-existent Niles Paul. Let me put it this way, if Grossman is gonna be inactive gameday, I'd rather have that be Cooley.[/quote]

No kidding... it's already a season with minimal expectations, he wont be here next year and if both the active QB's get injured they could just pull him off the couch or out of the grocery store and resign him anyway.

Lotus 09-10-2012 11:41 AM

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I live in Saintsland. Saints folks are shocked this morning. The ones who know I am a Skins fan have all copped the attitude of, "But...but...you guys are supposed to suck! How could you whip us so badly?" Folks here are very impressed with us. HTTR bitches!

punch it in 09-10-2012 11:47 AM

Playing httr on sirius and giving major props. I havent smiled like this since 1991.

punch it in 09-10-2012 11:48 AM

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;939287]Unfortunately there's one idiot who disagrees, Colin Cowherd. He blamed it on the environment, whatever.[/QUOTE]

I like him for some reason. Hell come around.

punch it in 09-10-2012 11:50 AM

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;939293]People only hear what they want to hear[/QUOTE]

That would explain the marching band in my head today.

ashvirtually 09-10-2012 11:52 AM

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[quote=12thMan;939241]It just something I love about seeing a big white boy like Paulsen drag defenders down field. I was like this is Redskins football right here.

No offense to big white boys:)[/quote]:headbange

Lotus 09-10-2012 11:53 AM

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;939291]Mike and Kyle Shanahan get my game ball. Mike for having the guts to stay committed to the youth movement. Starting RGIII and Alfred Morris. Trusting Cousins as second string quarterback. Kyle for sucking in his pride and catering the offense to RGIII talents. The video clip of Donovan McNabb must have hit home because Kyle did exactly what Donovan complained about, he adjusted the offense to RGIII talents. I swore I was watching the Baylor spread offense. I want to see how the offense progress as teams scheme against it. I live in St Louis, so I will be at the game Sunday with my family. I hope to be singing Hail to the Redskins as the Ram fans file out of the stadium.[/quote]

Yes. I was very impressed by how Kyle showed flexibility in integrating Baylor plays into the offense. Kyle did a great job yesterday.

Chico23231 09-10-2012 11:56 AM

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If Gomes continues his strong play over the next couple weeks, no way I want to see Merriweather back there.

JoeRedskin 09-10-2012 12:08 PM

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Watched a little NFL AM this morning as I was making my lunch. It just happened that, when I turned it on, they were showing videos of RGIII's play and the voice over commentator was saying how well RGIII performed and how confident he looked.

The commentator was McNabb. I just laughed.

CRedskinsRule 09-10-2012 12:09 PM

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Anyone else notice how much that 88yd td pass football meant to Griffin. He looks poised, but after the game he was holding that ball the same way my son was holding the football he got signed by RG3. I hope he was able to share that type of joy with his loved ones after all the media left him.

Evilgrin 09-10-2012 12:14 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;939288]Cowherd is a POS. He loves him some cowboys though[/quote]

Before the game it was motivation, now its a distraction, hehe

53Fan 09-10-2012 12:33 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;939304]Watched a little NFL AM this morning as I was making my lunch. It just happened that, when I turned it on, they were showing videos of RGIII's play and the voice over commentator was saying how well RGIII performed and how confident he looked.

The commentator was McNabb. I just laughed.[/quote]

Awesome. :)

53Fan 09-10-2012 12:37 PM

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I'm going to use a word I never use. Giddy. I'm just freakin' giddy right now. @ Lotus... Giddy up bitches!

firstdown 09-10-2012 12:38 PM

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The coaching staff. They took what RGIII did great in collage and adapted our O to fit those strengths. It seems after the one game they are not going to try and mold him into something he is not.

htownskinfan 09-10-2012 12:56 PM

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You cant say enough about RG3,I dont want to get too giddy,I saw Ramsey come off the bench in his first game and look allpro.I know theyre 2 different types of qb,just afraid of getting my hopes up.
I voted for other for game ball,I thought the off line did a lot better job then expected.Pass protection held up pretty well,run blocking could have been better but Morris almost got 100 yards
Morris was not spectacular but very steady and efficent.That 1 td run was pretty awesome,he just got nailed at the 1 but kept chugging and got it in,a la Riggins


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