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[quote=sandtrapjack;941894]Replacement refs are like fake boobs. You can play with them, but the real ones are better.[/quote]

LOL -
just for the record though - fake boobs are welcome on my tv and into my living room any Sunday. Replacement refs...........not so much.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;941894]Replacement refs are like fake boobs. You can play with them, but the real ones are better.[/quote]

LOL. Well put.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;941894]Replacement refs are like fake boobs. You can play with them, but the real ones are better.[/quote]

I respectfully disagree. [U]See[/U] gravity.

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;941803]There's a big difference between holding/offsides and letting a d*ckhead get under your skin. I think retaliating to a POS player will get more press than typical football mistakes.[/QUOTE]

So happy someone pointed this out.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;941894]Replacement refs are like fake boobs. You can play with them, but the real ones are better.[/quote]

Sense, this analogy makes none.

[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;941977]Sense, this analogy makes none.[/QUOTE]

Are you a fan of fake boobs or replacement refs?

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Along with the penalty on Morgan, both Finnegan and Chris Long should have been flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct resulting in offsetting penalties. From there Billy Cundiff would have come on and attempted a 47 yard attempt. The game could have very well been 31-31 heading into OT. These replacement refs are most definitely showing their inexperience and its resulting in the wrong team winning.

[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;941994]Along with the penalty on Morgan, both Finnegan and Chris Long should have been flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct resulting in offsetting penalties. From there Billy Cundiff would have come on and attempted a 47 yard attempt. The game could have very well been 31-31 heading into OT. These replacement refs are most definitely showing their inexperience and its resulting in the wrong team winning.[/QUOTE]

I am in no way saying these replacement refs are doing a good job but it is always the guy who retaliates that gets penalized.

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[quote=punch it in;941996]I am in no way saying these replacement refs are doing a good job but it is always the guy who retaliates that gets penalized.[/quote]

It's hard for players to keep their cool sometimes. Finnegan should be fined for every time he shoves someone's head after a play. Morgan should have never retaliated in he first place. He should have complained to the refs at the very least and jogged back to the huddle.

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[quote=punch it in;941996]I am in no way saying these replacement refs are doing a good job but it is always the guy who retaliates that gets penalized.[/quote]

Then why didnt Chris Long get penalized for pointing at his head repeatedly even after an official told him to stop?

[IMG]http://cjzero.com/gifs/LongTaunting.gif[/IMG]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/after-flagging-josh-morgan-refs-let-chris-long-get-away-with-taunting/]After flagging Morgan, refs let Chris Long get away with taunting | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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You do not cut players over one mistake. Ridiculous...

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;942001]Then why didnt Chris Long get penalized for pointing at his head repeatedly even after an official told him to stop?

[IMG]http://cjzero.com/gifs/LongTaunting.gif[/IMG]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/after-flagging-josh-morgan-refs-let-chris-long-get-away-with-taunting/]After flagging Morgan, refs let Chris Long get away with taunting | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

from the article:

[quote]What that brief clip doesn’t show is that after the official told him to stop, Long did stop — for about one second, [B]before walking back toward the Redskins’ sideline and gesturing again, all in plain sight of the official who had just told him to stop.[/B][/quote]
Emphasis mine, that is about as in your face to the refs as you can get. I would hope the league sends out fines to the teams and players. but they won't.

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i thought morgan or moss or davis could play better than i saw this game. robinson's fine, but it's looking kinda like this thing just doesn't work right without garcon.

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[quote=That Guy;942103]i thought morgan or moss or davis could play better than i saw this game. robinson's fine, but it's looking kinda like this thing just doesn't work right without garcon.[/quote]

I started to think the same bro but then you have to remember Davis was our best downfield target last year until the suspension. Kyle simply hasn't "featured" Davis much this year, which is bizarre. With Garcon out Davis (once again) is the only guy who can break some tackles and go for extra yardage in all the underneath routes Kyle features.

And the other thing I noticed in the Rams game was how many pass plays had WR routes (and therefor defenders) bunched up in pockets downfield. Kyle is shrinking the field rather than stretching it in a lot of pass plays. I'm real curious to look back again and count em on the NFLN replay. But the point is why make things more difficult for your rookie QB (who honestly does struggle with accuracy from time to time) by forcing him to throw into extremely tight coverage because you have routes that bring the WRs and defenders to the same (small) area on the field. This is what happened on every throw where a defender nearly intercepted Griffin.

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[quote=The Goat;942113]I started to think the same bro but then you have to remember Davis was our best downfield target last year until the suspension. Kyle simply hasn't "featured" Davis much this year, which is bizarre. With Garcon out Davis (once again) is the only guy who can break some tackles and go for extra yardage in all the underneath routes Kyle features.

And the other thing I noticed in the Rams game was how many pass plays had WR routes (and therefor defenders) bunched up in pockets downfield. Kyle is shrinking the field rather than stretching it in a lot of pass plays. I'm real curious to look back again and count em on the NFLN replay. But the point is why make things more difficult for your rookie QB (who honestly does struggle with accuracy from time to time) by forcing him to throw into extremely tight coverage because you have routes that bring the WRs and defenders to the same (small) area on the field. This is what happened on every throw where a defender nearly intercepted Griffin.[/quote]

Actually Davis is tied with the most targets (9) but only has 4 receptions. He has been less than productive as my FF team can attest to.

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^ Yeah, I thought that Freddy would have a huge year as a rookie QB's best friend. It hasn't worked out that way so far. Davis has not played well or, at least, as well as he could.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;942116]Actually Davis is tied with the most targets (9) but only has 4 receptions. He has been less than productive as my FF team can attest to.[/quote]

9 in two games doesn't seem like a lot to me, though I see the comparison point. With Garcon out especially, I would move Davis all over the LOS to create mismatches and get the ball to him early and often. Davis in the slot. Davis spread out wide. That's what I mean by featured. Mostly I've seen Davis on the crossing routes underneath, and the play is easily defended. It's...frustrating...to say the least.

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[quote=celts32;942076]You do not cut players over one mistake. Ridiculous...[/quote]

In my book, ridiculous is not qualifying the mistake. No mistake merits release? You are ridiculous.

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These replacement officials have to go. That's the bottom line.

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[quote=The Goat;942121]9 in two games doesn't seem like a lot to me, though I see the comparison point. With Garcon out especially, I would move Davis all over the LOS to create mismatches and get the ball to him early and often. Davis in the slot. Davis spread out wide. That's what I mean by featured. Mostly I've seen Davis on the crossing routes underneath, and the play is easily defended. It's...frustrating...to say the least.[/quote]

I believe the Shanahans try to spread it out a lot, so 9 targets is a lot, considering other guys are maybe getting 2 or 3 looks. But I think if you drop passes that are hitting your hands as FD has done several times, you don't get featured as much. Now I get the point about some that are easily defended, but he has had the worst case of drops these past two games, and he needs to get past that if he wants to be any sort of go to guy.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;942138]I believe the Shanahans try to spread it out a lot, so 9 targets is a lot, considering other guys are maybe getting 2 or 3 looks. But I think if you drop passes that are hitting your hands as FD has done several times, you don't get featured as much. Now I get the point about some that are easily defended, but he has had the worst case of drops these past two games, and he needs to get past that if he wants to be any sort of go to guy.[/quote]

It seems like our focus is less on beyond the line of scrimmage, and more behind the line of scrimmage. That's probably just my brain trying to process the Pistol, etc.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;942138]I believe the Shanahans try to spread it out a lot, so 9 targets is a lot, considering other guys are maybe getting 2 or 3 looks. But I think if you drop passes that are hitting your hands as FD has done several times, you don't get featured as much. Now I get the point about some that are easily defended, but he has had the worst case of drops these past two games, and he needs to get past that if he wants to be any sort of go to guy.[/quote]

No doubt, Davis has disappointed so far. Poop.

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[quote=The Goat;942146]No doubt, Davis has disappointed so far. Poop.[/quote]

Do you think its an issue of speed?

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[quote=Chico23231;942174]Do you think its an issue of speed?[/quote]

I think we would probably find that most of the pass plays include him as a blocker as they are play action.

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[quote=Monksdown;942139]It seems like our focus is less on beyond the line of scrimmage, and more behind the line of scrimmage. That's probably just my brain trying to process the Pistol, etc.[/quote]

I imagine it's out there, but does anyone have a breakdown on the number of balls RG3 has thrown per 10yd distance, not including YAC but just the distance the ball actually travelled. I don't know how to find that.

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[quote=Chico23231;942174]Do you think its an issue of speed?[/quote]

IMO it is not an issue of speed. Freddy has not shown good hands. He also has not been running the best of routes IMO.

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You know with a 3 catches for 13 yards total thru 2 weeks of action, what is N. Paul bringing to the table ? Bring back Cooley! In all honesty I don't know that the TE is a position RG3 even looks to. To me the Skins offense is run from the option and throw deep. That's it!

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Maybe Paul is the blocking TE because he certainly isn't the next Shannon Sharpe? Our running game has looked great when we've had some time to get it going. It's tough to run when you're playing from behind all game.

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;942001]Then why didnt Chris Long get penalized for pointing at his head repeatedly even after an official told him to stop?

[IMG]http://cjzero.com/gifs/LongTaunting.gif[/IMG]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/after-flagging-josh-morgan-refs-let-chris-long-get-away-with-taunting/]After flagging Morgan, refs let Chris Long get away with taunting | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

What does that have to do with a retaliation penalty. If you read the whole thread I was responding to why the refs didnt flag Finnegan also. To which I answered - in so many words - even the real refs would have called the guy who retaliates -been that way forever.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;942189]Maybe Paul is the blocking TE because he certainly isn't the next Shannon Sharpe? Our running game has looked great when we've had some time to get it going. It's tough to run when you're playing from behind all game.[/quote]

Shannon Sharpe ..........lol. It was funny in August and its even funnier now.

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[quote=Lotus;942179]IMO it is not an issue of speed. Freddy has not shown good hands. He also has not been running the best of routes IMO.[/quote]

Agreed - appears as if his head isnt even in the game.

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[quote=scowan;942180]You know with a 3 catches for 13 yards total thru 2 weeks of action, what is N. Paul bringing to the table ? Bring back Cooley! In all honesty I don't know that the TE is a position RG3 even looks to. To me the Skins offense is run from the option and throw deep. That's it![/quote]

Funny because the two things we have been lacking for so long is mobility at the QB and the deep ball. Now it appears thats all we have. WTF>?

On that note I have no issues with the offense rite now as long as were puttin up 30/40 a game that should be enough to win.

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This will cheer everyone up whose still down on Josh Morgan

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2012/9/17/3346026/recapping-the-redskins-loss-to-rams-with-seinfeld-animated-gifs]Recapping the Redskins Loss to Rams With Seinfeld Animated Gifs - Hogs Haven[/url]

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didn't you post that yesterday?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;942209]didn't you post that yesterday?[/quote]

I think somebody else did in another thread.

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[quote=Ruhskins;942210]I think somebody else did in another thread.[/quote]

Nah, it was him in the post game thread, but regardless it is pretty funny.

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[quote=Chico23231;942174]Do you think its an issue of speed?[/quote]

So far as he's not going to outrun DBs and quicker LBs yeah you could say so but it's hard to assess when he's dropping too many opportunities. I don't think we've seen the offense create mismatches for Davis to exploit though much either.

He's a big body though and can break tackles and rumble for YAC, so speed is a lesser concern with Davis. That's kind of the dynamic of downfield targets as I see it. A burner creates opportunity by beating defenders while your big targets create opportunies by hauling in jump balls and rumbling for YAC, even with contact. I wish we had a WR who stood out in either capacity. Garcon is the closest to that, but still just a poor man's Boldin at best, which is why he's never touched Boldin's numbers despite having arguably the best QB of all time throwing to him.

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[quote=Chico23231;942174]Do you think its an issue of speed?[/quote]

More weed than speed, but, hey, he'll probably be doing that soon enough.

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So now we're throwing Fred Davis under the bus? Its not even game three yet.

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Pst. Hey guys the Saints suck.