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[quote=firstdown;947678]I thought we won the game. You guys pick the other team to win and then bitch like little girls when the Skins actually win.[/quote]

How many people actually picked TB to win?

And complaining about a team that has been up 21-6 at half the last two weeks, and gone 1-1 in those games, isn't bitching like little girls, it's venting over your team's frustrating performance.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;947681]How many people actually picked TB to win?

[B]And complaining about a team that has been up 21-6 at half the last two weeks, and gone 1-1 in those games, isn't bitching like little girls, it's venting over your team's frustrating performance[/B].[/quote]


this. seriously.

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[quote=Chico23231;947475]Man we needed this one, HTTR.

Good

1. RG3 - We dont win that game without him. Best game as a pro so far imo. His accuracy in the short, medium throws is much better than I anticipated they would be.
2. Alfmo - He just ran over a good run defense. What a beast, to me I couldnt give RG3 the game ball without splitting it with Alfmo.
3. Oline - Really surprised how well they held up against a solid front 7. I thought this was there best game.
4. Run Defense effective again this game. This is really surprising me how we have quietly done a good job the running backs this year.
5. Silverblunt - Cant be called a sissy
6. Coaching staff had the team ready to play. Execution was the problem today, not the coaches. Great game by Kyle.

Bad
1. Billy C*ntdick - probably havent found a long term solution in the kicking game. Just an embarrassment
2. Stupid penalties continue. The Garcon cheap shot and the easy call 15 yard clip were drive stoppers. Dude WTF. This shit needs to end.
3. Niles Paul probably shouldnt have made the team
[B]4. Secondary play continues to stuggle. Josh Wilson has given up some really bad plays the last couple weeks. [/B]

Whats your feedback?[/quote]

Here was the difference today. I would rather these guys get beat by the offense having to actually MAKE throws and catches. Like we did week one. Make them earn it and that's what I saw today. Yeah TB made some plays but they had to earn it. That bullshit zone that they play doesn't make the opposing offense earn anything.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;947681]How many people actually picked TB to win?

And complaining about a team that has been up 21-6 at half the last two weeks, and gone 1-1 in those games, isn't bitching like little girls, it's venting over your team's frustrating performance.[/quote]

Agreed. If you you are walking around like a proud peacock because of yesterdays win you know little about the NFL. Yes I am happy we won but at this point in MS's tenure here we should be bulldozing the TB, and STL of the NFL world. Sadly we are not much better or on par with them.

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^ which is sad

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[quote=mredskins;947689]Agreed. If you you are walking around like a proud peacock because of yesterdays win you know little about the NFL. Yes I am happy we won but at this point in MS's tenure here [B]we should be bulldozing the TB, and STL of the NFL world. Sadly we are not much better or on par with them.[/B][/quote]

We probably are on par with them and I don't see why that's a negative or a big surprise. The Rams are 2-2, the Bucs while 1-3 have hung tough in their games so far.

The top tier teams are the ones that should be bulldozing these guys. Not a team that's probably looking at 8-8.

I'm not going to give ATL the win. Carolina almost got them and I think we are on par with Carolina.

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[quote=mredskins;947689]Agreed. If you you are walking around like a proud peacock because of yesterdays win you know little about the NFL. Yes I am happy we won but at this point in MS's tenure here we should be bulldozing the TB, and STL of the NFL world. Sadly we are not much better or on par with them.[/quote]

Well said. I don't often post here cause it seems like if you aren't drinking the kool aid you get flamed...but these are fair questions?

--All I see here and in the media today are constant stroking of RG3's brilliance. Yes he's had a great start and has been awesome at times. But that last drive was more the courtesy of Tampa's god-awful prevent defense. How open were those receivers? And how come twice now (the St Louis game the other) the Redskins built big halftime leads only to see them vanish? The defense sucks, we know that, but the offense has almost disappeared in the second half of both those games.

And these games are against mediocre to bad opposition...they can get away with it vs. Tampa (who also inexplicably waited to start really throwing and exploiting the Redskins bad secondary until the second half) but can they get away with it vs. anybody good?

MS in his tenure here has been repeatedly outcoached. The Bengals game was a classic example. In the StLouis and Tampa games the opposition made adjustments at the half and the Redskins did nothing. Luckily MS's hand picked kicker finally did his job and hit a FG (barely) to save the bacon yesterday...but come on...

MS has won what, one playoff game in his last 14 seasons of coaching? Someone tell me where all this brilliance is supposed to be, or has the league passed him by?

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[quote=mredskins;947689]Agreed. If you you are walking around like a proud peacock because of yesterdays win you know little about the NFL. Yes I am happy[B] we won but at this point in MS's tenure here we should be bulldozing the TB, and STL of the NFL world.[/B] Sadly we are not much better or on par with them.[/quote]


WHen fans realize their team was a bottom of the basement crap team with crap talent, the better they'll be come time of assessing their teams potential. People look at us like you do the Rams, Bucs, or Bills.


This is where this team should be at this point in MS's tenure. A .500 team that plays scrappy and is in every game. Guess what? That's exactly what we are. Not sure why you guys think we should be contending for Super Bowl or even making the playoffs considering the shit talent and team that he was charged with. He's had to do a complete turnover to get this ship right. It's too bad that fans lack the patience needed to see things through. People were wanting Mike fired after his first season. Give me a break. The man has done wonders considering he had to deal with the following things:

1)Vinny's roster
2) restricted FA in uncapped year
3) Lockout
4) 36 mil salary cap charge

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A tale of 2 halfs,you won the first and survied the second and came away with a win,Bob looked ok.Congratulations.:food-smil

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Tampa took the Giants to overtime at their place and Dallas escaped at home by 6 points. No "easy" games in the NFL.

Road wins are tough to get in this league folks

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[quote=Mattyk;947693]We probably are on par with them and I don't see why that's a negative or a big surprise. The Rams are 2-2, the Bucs while 1-3 have hung tough in their games so far.

The top tier teams are the ones that should be bulldozing these guys. Not a team that's probably looking at 8-8.[/quote]

Don't the Rams and Bucs both have brand new head coaches? Just starting to build their teams. Freaking MS has been here long enough that we should be better then the TB/STL's of the world at this point.

I am not a Debbie Downer and generally have supported MS and company but it is time this team HIS team steps up and don't give me the well he has a rookie QB. The god damn rookie QB is the only reason the MS turd even has two wins.

Honestly how the fawk did the defense get worst from last year? Much worst for the matter.

Look at the penalties that are killing us...that is coaching plain and simple.

I fear MS and KS realize this maybe their last hooray and will literally run Bob into the ground to save their necks.

How Jim H still has a job is mind fawking blowing to me.

Want get MAD really MAD??? Think about in the last decade how many number one draft picks (top ten ones at that) we blew on the secondary and now it is our weakest link! FAWK! (I know not really MS and companies fault but still burns me).

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[quote=Giantone;947700]A tale of 2 halfs,you won the first and survied the second and came away with a win,Bob looked ok.Congratulations.:food-smil[/quote]
lol @ "bob looked ok."

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[quote=Giantone;947700]A tale of 2 halfs,you won the first and survied the second and came away with a win,Bob looked ok.Congratulations.:food-smil[/quote]

The beagles tried to hand last nights game to the G men, i dint get to watch, was the offensive PI call legit??

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[quote=NC_Skins;947699]WHen fans realize their team was a bottom of the basement crap team with crap talent, the better they'll be come time of assessing their teams potential. People look at us like you do the Rams, Bucs, or Bills.


This is where this team should be at this point in MS's tenure. A .500 team that plays scrappy and is in every game. Guess what? That's exactly what we are. Not sure why you guys think we should be contending for Super Bowl or even making the playoffs considering the shit talent and team that he was charged with. He's had to do a complete turnover to get this ship right. It's too bad that fans lack the patience needed to see things through. People were wanting Mike fired after his first season. Give me a break. The man has done wonders considering he had to deal with the following things:

1)Vinny's roster
2) restricted FA in uncapped year
3) Lockout
4) 36 mil salary cap charge[/quote]

Nobody is saying we should be SB champions or contenders but it is more then fair to say MS and company should at least be competing for the NFC East title and/or a wild card birth.

AND yes I know statistically that is true right now but come on we have had a cup cake schedule to start the season and we are 2-2; if this ship was running course we should be 4-0 right now after the cup cakes we just played.

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[quote=Meks;947707]lol @ "bob looked ok."[/quote]

Don't feed the troll. Haters gone hate.

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[quote=mredskins;947705]Don't the Rams and Bucs both have brand new head coaches? Just starting to build their teams. Freaking MS has been here long enough that we should be better then the TB/STL's of the world at this point.

I am not a Debbie Downer and generally have supported MS and company but it is time this team HIS team steps up and don't give me the well he has a rookie QB. The god damn rookie QB is the only reason the MS turd even has two wins.

Honestly how the fawk did the defense get worst from last year? Much worst for the matter.

Look at the penalties that are killing us...that is coaching plain and simple.

I fear MS and KS realize this maybe their last hooray and will literally run Bob into the ground to save their necks.

How Jim H still has a job is mind fawking blowing to me.

Want get MAD really MAD??? Think about in the last decade how many number one draft picks (top ten ones at that) we blew on the secondary and now it is our weakest link! FAWK! (I know not really MS and companies fault but still burns me).[/quote]

Well that's certainly the glass is half empty view of things.

Question, what did you expect W/L wise this year?

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Despite the gaudy numbers on the offense (3rd in total yds and yds/game; 1st in rushing yds and rushing yds/game; 4th in total points and points/game), our offense is tied for last in 3rd down conversion at 25.5 pct. This has got to change, especially if we are going to continue to have issues with the defense. We can't give teams the opportunity to come back, and we've seen that happen in 3 games.

Also, I just saw that we are first for most penalties (37) and tied for first in penalty yds (356), this has to change.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;947708]The beagles tried to hand last nights game to the G men, i dint get to watch, [B]was the offensive PI call legit[/B]??[/quote]

Oh yes it was. Barden did everything short of taking off his helmet and beating Nnamdi with it. Speaking of Nnamdi, I thought the PI on him prior to this play was iffy.

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[quote=Ruhskins;947716]Oh yes it was. Barden did everything short of taking off his helmet and beating Nnamdi with it. Speaking of Nnamdi, I thought the PI on him prior to this play was iffy.[/quote]

10-4 Good buddy wish you would call skins games instead of Tim fn Ryan.

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[quote=mredskins;947705]Don't the Rams and Bucs both have brand new head coaches? Just starting to build their teams. Freaking MS has been here long enough that we should be better then the TB/STL's of the world at this point.[/quote]

Funny because just a couple of years ago so many people were all "Oh man, look at the Bucs! They're 10-6. They turned things around so quickly! Why can't we???? Blah, blah blah"

[quote] I am not a Debbie Downer and generally have supported MS and company but it is time this team HIS team steps up and don't give me the well he has a rookie QB. The god damn rookie QB is the only reason the MS turd even has two wins.[/quote]

Love how when a QB struggles it's all because of the coaches but a QB does well and it's in spite of the coaches

[quote]Honestly how the fawk did the defense get worst from last year? Much worst for the matter.[/quote]

Key injuries for one. But more importantly, offenses didn't have to try as hard last year to outscore our offense

[quote]Look at the penalties that are killing us...that is coaching plain and simple.[/quote]

Ravens and Steelers (two perennial AFC powerhouses) have more penalties per game than we do.

[quote] I fear MS and KS realize this maybe their last hooray and will literally run Bob into the ground to save their necks.[/quote]

****ing idiotic. What the **** did you draft RG3 for if not to use his ****ing talents. This whole "they run RG3" too much is ****ing stupid.

[quote]How Jim H still has a job is mind fawking blowing to me.[/quote]

I got nothing

[quote]Want get MAD really MAD??? Think about in the last decade how many number one draft picks (top ten ones at that) we blew on the secondary and now it is our weakest link! FAWK! (I know not really MS and companies fault but still burns me).[/quote]

Let's rehash the Carlos debate

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;947663]It is so hard to watch the Skins. I mean, I love RGIII and he is making it fun to watch again. But so much SSDD.
Big lead? Don't worry we'll blow it.
Been stopping the deep ball finally? Don't worry, they'll connect.
Got a decent drive going? Don't worry, we'll get a penalty to stop or just fizzle on 3rd down.

I know it's victory monday but the debbie downers have finally gotten to me I think. MS has had 3 years. This should have been a "put them away win". Tired of games coming down to the last series. Strangely, I don't think next week's will. Other than RGIII & Morris, I just don't see much to be positive about this team (okay, Kerrigan also).

Unlike others, I got no problem with the offensive play calling. The scheme seems solid but the stupid penalities need to stop. On D, come'on boys cover somebody. Next week R. White and J. Jones are going to be running free.

I can't believe how depressed I am on the day after a win. Help![/QUOTE]

Im trying to pretend that i dont remember thinking these things and hide in a victorious monday morning but it is true. We are two and two but probably should be 1-3 and on top of that this was one of two easy games left on the schedule.

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[quote=Ruhskins;947714]Despite the gaudy numbers on the offense (3rd in total yds and yds/game; 1st in rushing yds and rushing yds/game; 4th in total points and points/game), [B]our offense is tied for last in 3rd down conversion at 25.5 pct.[/B] This has got to change, especially if we are going to continue to have issues with the defense. We can't give teams the opportunity to come back, and we've seen that happen in 3 games.

Also, I just saw that we are first for most penalties (37) and tied for first in penalty yds (356), this has to change.[/quote]

I think it goes back to staying out of 3rd and longs. And that ties in with the penalties too.

Amazing when you think about it that we've still been able to overcome that and put up all the points we have.

[QUOTE=Giantone;947700]A tale of 2 halfs,you won the first and survied the second and came away with a win,Bob looked ok.Congratulations.:food-smil[/QUOTE]

Bob looked better than ok. Especially if we remember he was playing in his fourth game. Of course its easy to forget he is a rookie when watching him so.....

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Penalties bother me, but the stupid emotional ones really burn me up. The Garcon personal foul and Clipping penalty killed 2 drives the second half. That is unacceptable and shows no discipline. How could you be so stupid and selfish after the Morgan play? There needs to be more accountability. Shanny should rip those guys for that garbage.

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[quote=punch it in;947719]Im trying to pretend that i dont remember thinking these things and hide in a victorious monday morning but it is true. We are two and two but probably should be 1-3 and on top of that this was one of two easy games left on the schedule.[/quote]

Or maybe we should be 3-1? I'd be more upset if we were playing really smart (i.e. no silly penalties) and struggling to get our offense going.

[QUOTE=firstdown;947678]I thought we won the game. You guys pick the other team to win and then bitch like little girls when the Skins actually win.[/QUOTE]

You know we just want to see quality football rite? Lets stop the in-fighting. We are probably alot closer to the bottom of the barrel than the top of it After almost blowing that game am i supposed to stick my chest out and play httr all day because we snuck out a close one against a bad team? Im happy we won because it allows me to dream still that we are going to make some noise this year but i also realize that we were about six inches from being the same old redskins and now we get the falcons, ravens,steelers and six against the nfc east. So at the end of the year are you even going to give a crap you beat the 5-11 bucs in a clise one? Lol. There were problems even in the win there were problems. And its ok to hash them out in a discussion thread about the game without having to be called a debbie downer or cry baby. Jeez-

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[quote=SmootSmack;947718]Funny because just a couple of years ago so many people were all "Oh man, look at the Bucs! They're 10-6. They turned things around so quickly! Why can't we???? Blah, blah blah"



Love how when a QB struggles it's all because of the coaches but a QB does well and it's in spite of the coaches



Key injuries for one. But more importantly, offenses didn't have to try as hard last year to outscore our offense



Ravens and Steelers (two perennial AFC powerhouses) have more penalties per game than we do.



****ing idiotic. What the **** did you draft RG3 for if not to use his ****ing talents. This whole "they run RG3" too much is ****ing stupid.



I got nothing



Let's rehash the Carlos debate[/quote]

Yup, let me be clear I love this board. I think you and Matty both do a bang up job and if not for this board I probably have given up on the Skins awhile ago.

With that said I think you are putting lipstick on a pig.

Even you said a few days back you got tired of the Wizards and their management and basically gave up on them. Some of us on here today kind of feel the same about the Skins right now (though I am not giving up; I am more or less saying I am disappointed in the product).

I have made very valid points so be it and you have a right to your opinion so be that but when the day is done I bet 99% of this board is not happy at where the Skins are right now in year 3 of MS and company. I think if this ship was on course we should be 4-o or 3-1 at this point considering our schedule thus far.

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I only cuaght a quick glimpse of the clipping penaltgy but it seemed sorta iffy to me. Looked like he tripped into him. Am I wrong about that?

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[quote=Chico23231;947723]Penalties bother me, but the stupid emotional ones really burn me up. The Garcon personal foul and Clipping penalty killed 2 drives the second half. That is unacceptable and shows no discipline. How could you be so stupid and selfish after the Morgan play? There needs to be more accountability. Shanny should rip those guys for that garbage.[/quote]

These are the type of penalties I was referring to. That is a reflection of coaching. IMO.

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[quote=Mattyk;947721]I think it goes back to staying out of 3rd and longs. And that ties in with the penalties too.

Amazing when you think about it that we've still been able to overcome that and put up all the points we have.[/quote]

I do like the fact that we have had a LOT of big plays on offense, something that this team was sorely lacking. I was a bit surprised about penalty and penalty yards, although I am sure some of it has to do with the replacement refs. Still, given all the offensive production, I feel that this team has a lot of potential and it is a frustrating to see that 3rd down conversion percentage.

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;947724]Or maybe we should be 3-1? I'd be more upset if we were playing really smart (i.e. no silly penalties) and struggling to get our offense going.[/QUOTE]

Maybe we should be 4-0 actually. Im just being real - i see an offense that if garcon can stay healthy and smart is going to be ferocious by the end of the year. If i had to lay money on the line though SS and pick a record im saying 5-11 maybe 6-10. I mean the Bucs arent good. We trashed their run d - but i already knew we had a good run game. I am in love with our offense. My two biggest problems with the team are of course the secondary - who hung in there yesterday and gave me faint hope on that end but mainly is ms and ks taking their foot off the gas when we should be putting nails in coffins. Its as if they dont realize what they have in rg3 yet?

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[quote=FRPLG;947729]I only cuaght a quick glimpse of the clipping penaltgy but it seemed sorta iffy to me. Looked like he tripped into him. Am I wrong about that?[/quote]

I believe it was Kory L and i didnt see a trip. The Oline was getting out to block Polumbus's side and in the flow to get to the outside he was beat and went right at the back of his knees taking the guy out. I thought it was a pretty clear call.

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Very interesting...and impressive.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--rg3-brushes-off-headset-malfunction-in--skins--win--santana-moss-suspects-bucs-sabotage.html]RG3 brushes off headset malfunction in 'Skins' win; Santana Moss suspects Bucs sabotage - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;947733]I believe it was Kory L and i didnt see a trip. The Oline was getting out to block Polumbus's side and in the flow to get to the outside he was beat and went right at the back of his knees taking the guy out. I thought it was a pretty clear call.[/quote]

The clip was by Will Montgomery.

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[quote=SmootSmack;947718]Funny because just a couple of years ago so many people were all "Oh man, look at the Bucs! They're 10-6. They turned things around so quickly! Why can't we???? Blah, blah blah"



Love how when a QB struggles it's all because of the coaches but a QB does well and it's in spite of the coaches



Key injuries for one. But more importantly, offenses didn't have to try as hard last year to outscore our offense



Ravens and Steelers (two perennial AFC powerhouses) have more penalties per game than we do.



[B]****ing idiotic[/B]. What the **** did you draft RG3 for if not to use his ****ing talents. This whole "they run RG3" too much is ****ing stupid.



I got nothing



Let's rehash the Carlos debate[/quote]
Also moving forward please don't say my ideas are ****ing idiotic. I never have or never would disrespect your opinions that way and would appreciated if you extended me the same respect.

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[quote=mredskins;947730]These are the type of penalties I was referring to. That is a reflection of coaching. IMO.[/quote]

Shanny should have yanked Garcon's ass outta the game and dressed him down on the sidelines in front of the entire team. No excuse for that play.

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[quote=mredskins;947728]

Even you said a few days back you got tired of the Wizards and their management and basically gave up on them. Some of us on here today kind of feel the same about the Skins right now (though I am not giving up; I am more or less saying I am disappointed in the product). [/quote]

Dude, [I][B]When life gives you paper jams, turn them into paper footballs! [/B][/I]

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[quote=Monkeydad;947736]The clip was by Will Montgomery.[/quote]

yep, I wasnt sure who. Monty had a great game outside that play.

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[quote=punch it in;947732]Maybe we should be 4-0 actually. Im just being real - i see an offense that if garcon can stay healthy and smart is going to be ferocious by the end of the year. If i had to lay money on the line though SS and pick a record im saying 5-11 maybe 6-10. I mean the Bucs arent good. We trashed their run d - but i already knew we had a good run game. I am in love with our offense. My two biggest problems with the team are of course the secondary - who hung in there yesterday and gave me faint hope on that end but mainly is ms and ks taking their foot off the gas when we should be putting nails in coffins. [B]Its as if they dont realize what they have in rg3 yet?[/B][/quote]

Really?

He's only on pace for 4,000 yards passing and 1,000 rushing.