[QUOTE=SmootSmack;950196]I like how you get all upset when "the Shanahan apologists, especially a mod" [I]belittle[/I] someone's opinion yet you seem to have no issue saying that whoever disagrees with you is basically not intelligent[/QUOTE]

Im not seeing that. Goat is unhappy with the shanahans. He is saying he cant stand people getting their backs every time they lose ( which is alot). He made the statement than an intelligent observer must see points a b and c? Im not sure where i see him calling anyone names or stupid? Hes pleading his case thats all?


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[quote=RGIII;950317]It was ATLs gameplan to kill the clock and keep RGIII on the sidelines. ATL knew the big play was there for the taking but, instead used a ball control offense to limit the Skins touches. RGIII attempted less than 20 passes. Ryan attempted over 50. Consequently, the game was close. Skins settled for not opening up the passing attack on first and second downs. Take that in consieration that they've been terrible on 3rd down all year. I said it before and maybe I cannot express it the best way but, the Skins showed their hand operating out of the I-formation so much. RGIII is handcuffed not operating out of the spread formations. Any QB is.[/quote]

Many of his passes, even the completions, didn't look accurate. He was throwing low, throwing behind receivers. If I were to lay the smack down...RG3, Kyle Shanahan, Cundiff, and Madieu Williams would get it

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[quote=Mechanix544;950201]Shanahan is not as good as people think. I think he needs replacing, but after this season of course. But that being said, he has done some good, namely RG3, Kerrigan, AlMo and Bowen, along with giving Perry Riley a shot to become a great player, which I believe he will be, and soon. But it just seems that Mike doesn't surround himself with the type of staff that is solid. I have said this before, but the game might have passed him by a bit, because in 14 calander years, I believe that an NFL head coach with his "history" should have had more than 1 playoff win. The defense is offensive, but there is hope with RG3. Its funny that the one game he quits using him as a second running back is the game he gets the shit knocked out of him, and gets knocked out of the game. That lad needs to know the situation, and understand that the extra two yards he got on that scramble was not worth that hit. Especially when you are trying to get an extra few yards for billy cundiff, who is gonna fvck it up no matter where the ball is on the field, 25 yards away or 55.[/quote]

Solid post. I too see the positives Shanahan has given us, but I realize his own negatives (as a talent evaluator, HC) will always, always trump what he brings to the table.

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[quote=The Goat;950318]I didn't use the word dumb, or moron or any of the others I've seen from the Shanahan apologists. That said, I absolutely stand by the post, hands down, no questions.

Hadn't even read the thread when I posted but as I go back through it's pretty telling that no one else pointed out how bad the Falcons, particularly Ryan, were up to the 4th quarter. Ryan hasn't been that inaccurate since his rookie season.

Again, this is not a serious football team, because we don't have a serious coaching staff or front office, and that simply has everything to do with Mike Shanahan. His goofy kiddo makes it worse, but obviously Kyle wouldn't be here if Mike wasn't. Mike's the problem. We won't be a winning team until he's gone. But I won't stop being a fan because I know this to be true. That's not how it works.[/quote]

I don't know how you come to your conclusions. Not a serious football team, goofy kiddo. I really don't get it. But whatever, it's your opinion.

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[quote=SmootSmack;950323]I don't know how you come to your conclusions. Not a serious football team, goofy kiddo. I really don't get it. But whatever, it's your opinion.[/quote]

Its a clown team, bro.

[QUOTE=punch it in;950315]It sure is starting to seem like it. I mean they traded up for rg3. That is kind of a no brainer after rex/beck. We made a deal and got rg-3 Great. It sure is starting to appear thAt alot of other personnel decisions were just bad. If rg-3 doesnt play next week we Are going to see a real disaster of a team. A disaster of a team that is the brain child of shanallen. I know im going to hear every excuse in the world now about well if this guy wasnt hurt or this guy had just done this or its not the coaches fault that such in such was this and that. Of course shanny didnt miss a 31 yard fg. No but shanny chose the dude who did to be our kicker. Josh morgan and pierre garcon - thats where we spent our money? Oh wait josh morgan is an awesome blocker!?! I do not believe this team is ready to win next year. I really dont. Our defense is light years away. Our receivers are not that good. We have no kicker and our punter is not good either. We have very questionable depth on our o-line and absolutely no talent at rt. Thanks for alfred morris. Shanny could be a special running back scout. Lol. Call me debbie downer. Call me ignorant. Call me whatever you want. Coaching staff has to go. Now bring on the tongue lashing i am about to receive because it helps you vent your own frustration without having to bad mouth your team. Im a big boy. I can handle it.


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I really like Sav.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;950232]Great post. Didn't score 30 today ....no offense i mean im just saying.[/quote]

Two weeks in a row actually Crusty, and last week was against a pretty lousy defense. The last two seasons our play-calling got very predictable about this time in the season. This year is no different, unless RG3 runs constantly.

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I'm upset that we lost today, but... I'm not going to get all butthurt.

I think Mike is doing a fine job. I think some of us are being waaay to critical of this man. Of course your going to say that he missed on situations, but it's the nature of the game.

let's just all hug eachother and wish for a better sunday

friendship!

p.s sorry i've been drinking

[QUOTE=Bucket;950230]Shanahan isn't going anywhere. Just because a few fans think they know what's going on in the FO doesn't mean that it's going to happen. The same FO that makes mistakes also..

- Brought in TW
- Brought in Morris
- Got RG3
- Got Kerrigan
- Resigned Fletcher


and the list goes on.... In a perfect world we would win every game, and the Redskins would win the Super Bowl every day.[/QUOTE]

Dont forget mcnabb or cundiff or all thr others moves or draftpicks that didnt work out. Sit down and go over every draft pick and free agent signing made by shanny since he got here. More wrongs than rites. It would be an absolute calamity if shanny fails and you know it. The guy has one playoff win in 14 years. What makes you so sure he is on the verge of winning games?. I think you overcome your fear of having to start over again with a new regime by ripping goat or me or anybody who doubts shanny. Are you THAT SURE that this team will be winning in year five????


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[QUOTE=The Goat;950318]I didn't use the word dumb, or moron or any of the others I've seen from the Shanahan apologists. That said, I absolutely stand by the post, hands down, no questions.

Hadn't even read the thread when I posted but as I go back through it's pretty telling that no one else pointed out how bad the Falcons, particularly Ryan, were up to the 4th quarter. Ryan hasn't been that inaccurate since his rookie season.

Again, this is not a serious football team, because we don't have a serious coaching staff or front office, and that simply has everything to do with Mike Shanahan. His goofy kiddo makes it worse, but obviously Kyle wouldn't be here if Mike wasn't. Mike's the problem. We won't be a winning team until he's gone. But I won't stop being a fan because I know this to be true. That's not how it works.[/QUOTE]

I disagree but for the sake of discussion. What would your plan be? Fire the gm, head coach, of, dc, st coach? Who are you replacing them with? What timeframe are you going to give them to win? Do they get one year? Two? Five? And then we just fire them and start over again if we haven't won the Super Bowl?

I get you hate the current staff. Changing them out pushes a reset button on the franchise that may or may not work out and that costs us years to determine it.

This isn't a zorn in over his head situation. I think we stay the course with our current staff. I get you disagree, just don want to read any more posts of people saying fire everyone without also giving some kind of plan on who they would replace them with. Otherwise it's just noise.

[QUOTE=VegasSkinsFan;950325]I really like Sav.[/QUOTE]

Just for the record he just made my shitlist today. Haha.


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[quote=VegasSkinsFan;950325]I really like Sav.[/quote]

Did you watch the game?

[QUOTE=VegasSkinsFan;950329]I disagree but for the sake of discussion. What would your plan be? Fire the gm, head coach, of, dc, st coach? Who are you replacing them with? What timeframe are you going to give them to win? Do they get one year? Two? Five? And then we just fire them and start over again if we haven't won the Super Bowl?

I get you hate the current staff. Changing them out pushes a reset button on the franchise that may or may not work out and that costs us years to determine it.

This isn't a zorn in over his head situation. I think we stay the course with our current staff. I get you disagree, just don want to read any more posts of people saying fire everyone without also giving some kind of plan on who they would replace them with. Otherwise it's just noise.[/QUOTE]

So how long until shanny starts winning? How long till the secondary and o-line and kicker , etc are ready to win. Cus otherwise its just a waste of a really good qb. Point is in three years hes made a few good choices. Almo - kerrigan - rg-3. Not much else. You cant add one good player a year and ever expect to field an entire team that can win? I get the whole continuity thing. 14 years - one playoff win? Arent we just doing more harm if we leave this regime hanging around after the five year mark. I dont see us winning two years away? Too many holes still.


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I've been questioning the soundness of Shanahan's coaching abilities, hence my sig. He's made several knee-jerk decisions himself on the sidelines and off. This is the foundation of his leadership and it's wavering a bit. The team will start to question his guidance more and more.

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[quote=punch it in;950328]Dont forget mcnabb or cundiff or all thr others moves or draftpicks that didnt work out. Sit down and go over every draft pick and free agent signing made by shanny since he got here. More wrongs than rites. It would be an absolute calamity if shanny fails and you know it. The guy has one playoff win in 14 years. What makes you so sure he is on the verge of winning games?. I think you overcome your fear of having to start over again with a new regime by ripping goat or me or anybody who doubts shanny. Are you THAT SURE that this team will be winning in year five????


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Well see my issue is when people are already like well Garcon, Morgan, Cousins...all wasted moves. Or when trading an end of the bench DB for John Beck is some major disaster. And I would bet that even the best GMs you could think of likely have more wrongs than rights. Every one here praises Beathard to no end...but he failed repeatedly with his personnel decisions.

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[quote=SmootSmack;950265]Eh, I saw a couple of people question if he was worth even signing after today[/quote]

Wait, don't I get credit for questioning it when he was signed!! lol

To kind of bring things full circle on Mike's (umpteenth) FA mistake, I know some folks asked if anyone (probably me especially though) would still prefer Gaffney or some other average, veteran WR. I don't see how anyone would prefer otherwise.

Gaffney or another WR would have commanded $1 million/year guaranteed money, at the most. We're paying Garcon $5 million + per year in guaranteed money. Is Garcon five times more valuable than an average, veteran WR? Will he be five times for valuable that the avg, bet WR in any year of his career? LOL, he's not even twice as valuable. He's maybe the 3rd best WR on the roster. Will he be targeted a lot yet this season? Sure. Will he have the most TDs of the WR corp? Probably, given how much the offense is willing to sacrifice to get him the ball already. Will that prove he's better than Moss, worthy of the contract, or deserves to start? (Right now my starters would be Moss and Hankerson, with Garcon and Morgan and Robinson battling to be the the "3rd option")

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[quote=punch it in;950332]So how long until shanny starts winning? How long till the secondary and o-line and kicker , etc are ready to win. Cus otherwise its just a waste of a really good qb. Point is in three years hes made a few good choices. Almo - kerrigan - rg-3. Not much else. You cant add one good player a year and ever expect to field an entire team that can win? I get the whole continuity thing. 14 years - one playoff win? Arent we just doing more harm if we leave this regime hanging around after the five year mark. I dont see us winning two years away? Too many holes still.


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Maybe it's just me but I'm not ready to close the book on Leonard Hankerson, Roy Helu Evan Royster, Trent Williams, Kory Lichtensteiger, Chris Chester, Jordan Bernstine, Richard Crawford, Perry Riley, Keenan Robinson, Jarvis Jenkins, Chase Minnifield, Kirk Cousins, Stephen Bowen, Adam Gettis, Josh LeRibeus, etc.

Im not necessarily saying they are wrong just that up until this point they arent rite. Same thing that bothers me about the shanny argument. One school says rite. One school says wrong. There is only one thing that determines rite or wrong in football - WINS. So its early- sure. Jury is still out - sure. But up until this point - they lose more than they win. Twice as much? Three times as much? So im not sure how the doubters get ripped the way they do ? I can only go by wins and losses. U want to say i told u so when and if they start winning. Be my guest. I relish the thought. I seriously want to be wrong about shanny. More than you know.


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[quote=The Goat;950335]Wait, don't I get credit for questioning it when he was signed!! lol

To kind of bring things full circle on Mike's (umpteenth) FA mistake, I know some folks asked if anyone (probably me especially though) would still prefer Gaffney or some other average, veteran WR. I don't see how anyone would prefer otherwise.

Gaffney or another WR would have commanded $1 million/year guaranteed money, at the most. We're paying Garcon $5 million + per year in guaranteed money. Is Garcon five times more valuable than an average, veteran WR? Will he be five times for valuable that the avg, bet WR in any year of his career? LOL, he's not even twice as valuable. He's maybe the 3rd best WR on the roster. Will he be targeted a lot yet this season? Sure. Will he have the most TDs of the WR corp? Probably, given how much the offense is willing to sacrifice to get him the ball already. Will that prove he's better than Moss, worthy of the contract, or deserves to start? (Right now my starters would be Moss and Hankerson, with Garcon and Morgan and Robinson battling to be the the "3rd option")[/quote]

So you sign Gaffney for one year and then what? Sign him again for another one year deal?

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[quote=SmootSmack;950321]Many of his passes, even the completions, didn't look accurate. He was throwing low, throwing behind receivers. If I were to lay the smack down...RG3, Kyle Shanahan, Cundiff, and Madieu Williams would get it[/quote]

RGIIIs passes didn't "look" accurate? Dude was like 14/19. One low pass to Moss was perfectly placed, catchable, but was dropped. At least two others were catchable but dropped as well (Davis, Morgan possibly). You're probably thinking of a pass to Garcon that could've been a miscommunication. Did Ryan's passes look accurate? There were at least two circus catches by Jones, White or Douglas. And WTF was ATL doing throwing to an eligible OL twice in a game? Where they accurate passes too?

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[quote=gangstalicious;950327]I'm upset that we lost today, but... I'm not going to get all butthurt.

I think Mike is doing a fine job. I think some of us are being waaay to critical of this man. Of course your going to say that he missed on situations, but it's the nature of the game.

let's just all hug eachother and wish for a better sunday

friendship!

p.s sorry i've been drinking[/quote]

I believe, that's the best post of the day :)

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[quote=RGIII;950339]RGIIIs passes didn't "look" accurate? Dude was like 14/19. One low pass to Moss was perfectly placed, catchable, but was dropped. At least two others were catchable but dropped as well (Davis, Morgan). Did Ryan's passes look accurate? There were at least two circus catches by Jones, White or Douglas. And WTF was ATL doing throwing to an eligible OL twice in a game? Where they accurate passes too?[/quote]

Listen, last week we had nearly 200 yards after the catch (or yac) and that was in large part due to Griffin placing the ball where the receiver could catch and run. I realize there were big drops today, but there were also many passes I saw where Griffin's completions were not as productive as they could have been

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[quote=SmootSmack;950341]Listen, last week we had nearly 200 yards after the catch (or yac) and that was in large part due to Griffin placing the ball where the receiver could catch and run. I realize there were big drops today, but there were also many passes I saw where Griffin's completions were not as productive as they could have been[/quote]

I hear you but, RGIII was handcuffed. I wonder how much YAC from previous games came from RGIII not operating out of the shotgun? Heck Cousins TD came from...

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[quote=RGIII;950342]I hear you but, RGIII was handcuffed. I wonder how much YAC from previous games came from RGIII operating out of the shotgun? Heck Cousins TD came from...[/quote]

Well it did seem that this was the least "Baylor offense" game we've seen yet

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;950336]Maybe it's just me but I'm not ready to close the book on Leonard Hankerson, Roy Helu Evan Royster, Trent Williams, Kory Lichtensteiger, Chris Chester, Jordan Bernstine, Richard Crawford, Perry Riley, Keenan Robinson, Jarvis Jenkins, Chase Minnifield, Kirk Cousins, Stephen Bowen, Adam Gettis, Josh LeRibeus, etc.[/QUOTE]

Besides trent and bowen though how many of those guys would u put money on the line to say the book wont be closed on? I get that they are young guys. I love hank bro. Love him. But - wins and losses. Show me wins shanny ( that doesnt mean multiple or even one superbowl). Im not a crazy all or bust fan that wants to hang myself everytime we dont get a first down. It is in a sound state of mind that i find myself coming to the conclusion against every ounce of hope i have in my soul that this regime is not what i thought it was. And that thought pisses me the hell off because i love the redskins second to only my family and friends. Notice i didnt even say the dear lord. I am that much of a fan. I always will be win or lose through sickness and health for better or for worse till death do we part. I am DOUBTFUL.


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[quote=punch it in;950344]Besides trent and bowen though how many of those guys would u put money on the line to say the book wont be closed on? I get that they are young guys. I love hank bro. Love him. But - wins and losses. Show me wins shanny ( that doesnt mean multiple or even one superbowl). Im not a crazy all or bust fan that wants to hang myself everytime we dont get a first down. It is in a sound state of mind that i find myself coming to the conclusion against every ounce of hope i have in my soul that this regime is not what i thought it was. And that thought pisses me the hell off because i love the redskins second to only my family and friends. Notice i didnt even say the dear lord. I am that much of a fan. I always will be win or lose through sickness and health for better or for worse till death do we part. I am DOUBTFUL.


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What are you asking me?

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[quote=VegasSkinsFan;950329]I disagree but for the sake of discussion. What would your plan be? Fire the gm, head coach, of, dc, st coach? Who are you replacing them with? What timeframe are you going to give them to win? Do they get one year? Two? Five? And then we just fire them and start over again if we haven't won the Super Bowl?

I get you hate the current staff. Changing them out pushes a reset button on the franchise that may or may not work out and that costs us years to determine it.

This isn't a zorn in over his head situation. I think we stay the course with our current staff. I get you disagree, just don want to read any more posts of people saying fire everyone without also giving some kind of plan on who they would replace them with. Otherwise it's just noise.[/quote]

You're totally right I sound like an a$$hole pointing out the problem (that I really think everyone also knows, deep down) but not giving a solution. Thing is it's a pretty "general" solution. Hire the best GM available. We can talk all day about who that may be, and I'd even go so far to say Bruce Allen could be a consideration. But regardless, from that point on it's a simple "you're fired" all the way down the line with the possible exception of Morris...the only coach on the roster to coach a winning team so far this decade.

I'd take either coordinator from Cinci. I'd take either from San Fran. I'd even take Gregg Williams and Al Saunders back.

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Give us the official studs and duds list Smoot'. With exact plays if you can. I gotta wake up in a few hours I'll re-watch the game tomorrow.

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;950345]What are you asking me?[/QUOTE]

How many of those other guys you mentioned besides tw and bowen are you confident will contribute to this team. The rest of my rant was just to say that im not doom and gloom. My doubt stems from cold hard wins and losses. Lol.


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[quote=SmootSmack;950338]So you sign Gaffney for one year and then what? Sign him again for another one year deal?[/quote]

If you can't sign (in 2013) a guy worth spending $4 million or $5 million a year? Yeah probably, Gaffney again. The Patriots are doing this and going to the Superbowls. Moss could be Welker in the Pats system, and the rest of their guys are pedestrian like ours. Hell, we even have a better RB/running game than NE, we're already half way there! ;)

[QUOTE=The Goat;950346]You're totally right I sound like an a$$hole pointing out the problem (that I really think everyone also knows, deep down) but not giving a solution. Thing is it's a pretty "general" solution. Hire the best GM available. We can talk all day about who that may be, and I'd even go so far to say Bruce Allen could be a consideration. But regardless, from that point on it's a simple "you're fired" all the way down the line with the possible exception of Morris...the only coach on the roster to coach a winning team so far this decade.

I'd take either coordinator from Cinci. I'd take either from San Fran. I'd even take Gregg Williams and Al Saunders back.[/QUOTE]

I hear you goat. I know what yor saying. You know that. You are doubtful like me because you are a fan and you want wins. Not 5-11 records and than to come on here and see how great shanny is doing. We are on the same page bro. But take back the al saunders comment now! Lol


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[quote=punch it in;950350]I hear you goat. I know what yor saying. You know that. You are doubtful like me because you are a fan and you want wins. Not 5-11 records and than to come on here and see how great shanny is doing. We are on the same page bro. But take back the al saunders comment now! Lol


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Saunders is a funny thought cuz like Shanny he hasn't won in years :)

Your idea to make Mike a RB scout: brilliant. LOL how awesome would it be to listen in on that conversation!

I just remember the huge playbook saunders had. He was like a mad scientist. Was it ramsey or jc at that time. I cant remember?


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[quote=punch it in;950348]How many of those other guys you mentioned besides tw and bowen are you confident will contribute to this team. The rest of my rant was just to say that im not doom and gloom. My doubt stems from cold hard wins and losses. Lol.


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I think Lichtenstegier and Chester are already contributing. You see some of those holes Morris has been getting?

I think Riley is already contributing

I think Helu needs to stay healthy but we saw what he could do last year...ditto Royster

I think Hankerson has shown flashes but for various reasons has been a bit of a disappointment

I think it's way way way too early to pass any judgement on Cousins, Rib, Gettis, Compton, Robinson

Chester i should have excluded. I give morris a ton of credit. He gets holes but man he could cut diamonds with those moves. I believe helu was tagged as a bit of an injury prone / couldnt carry a full load guy when he came into the league though.


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Likes and Dislikes

Likes:

- How competitive we were today
- Not allowing Julio and Roddy to huge numbers
- Kerrigan
- Cofield getting a sack and knocking down the ball when he didn't get there; Hands up!
- Alfred Morris
- Santana's New Role
- Fred Davis doing good
- Our OL play
- Our punting game
- Getting to see Kirk Cousins

Dislikes:

- Getting to see Kirk Cousins
- Not getting to Matt Ryan/Giving him lots of time to pass/allowing him to step up
- Our pass defense in the second half (particularly the 4th quarter)
- Josh Wilson; Before the game John Lynch interviewed Matt Ryan and the WRs and said do you all know where you want to attack the Skins today? They all replied 'Wherever Josh Wilson is, where going to that guy whose on him'. Translation= He sucks. Then I went back and remembered reading on this board that Josh Wilson was playing at one of the highest levels in the league according to ProFootballFocus.com. If teams are specifically going after a guy, that means he isn't good. And if that player who isn't good is considered the best player in our secondary and has a reliable stat sight saying that he's good, then that right there really shows that our secondary is awful. At least thats how I see it (and Josh was tested the whole game and ultimately did poorly, allowing guys to get first downs on him and stiff arm him constantly)
- Billy Cundiff; like I said earlier today, when a kicker has no confidence, he's got to go. His body language said it all to me today. He had to make both kicks today; he missed the easy one, 31 yards, so he's got to go. Josh Brown, Neil Rackers, Kris Brown, Gano come and try out.
- The DL got zero push or pressure today. 1 sack the whole game. All we did was edge rush and when you edge rush and get 0 pressure up the middle, all the QB has to do is step up in the pocket, like I mentioned above.
- Pierre Garcon. We are undefeated in games which he scores a TD. I think he's a great player. I Want to think he's going to be a great signing and worth the money. But today's performance of dropping passes was head pounding.
- RG3 getting hurt.
- The tackling on the defense
- The fact that Orakpo may not be on this team next year, according to SS. I think its a dumb move if we really do trade him; especially if it isn't a first.

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The Redskins fought hard in this one. The defense has face five great QBs so far this season. We knew that going in to this game the game would be close. While I'm a bit down on the starting corners, I felt the defense play overall played a great game.

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[quote=SmootSmack;950321]Many of his passes, even the completions, didn't look accurate. He was throwing low, throwing behind receivers. If I were to lay the smack down...RG3, Kyle Shanahan, Cundiff, and Madieu Williams would get it[/quote]

I agree. I thought we saw the game of an average QB out there. Also, he has to be smarter for his own hysical and mental health. On the play he got his concussion he should've just thrown it away or ran out of bounds ( he does this we probably get a late hit and a new set of downs).

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[quote=VTSkins1961;950280]Garcon is good when healthy. Coaching staff, in my opinion, is holding RG3 back. RG3 needs to learn to run out of bounds instead of getting killed. I expect a fine to the player who hit him in the helmet...[/quote]

He's not going to throw deep balls every play. He leads the league with 8. something per attempt. So i'm not sure what else you would have him "unleash". We have a potent running attack with Morris and RG3.

There is no handcuff's in our offense at the moment. Do they limit the amount of plays RG3 has learned? Probally, since the guy has never used a playbook in college.

Team is young, and we have 2 potential RoTY canidate's on our offense. I'm pretty excited about the future.

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[quote=punch it in;950328]Dont forget mcnabb or cundiff or all thr others moves or draftpicks that didnt work out. Sit down and go over every draft pick and free agent signing made by shanny since he got here. More wrongs than rites. It would be an absolute calamity if shanny fails and you know it. The guy has one playoff win in 14 years. What makes you so sure he is on the verge of winning games?. I think you overcome your fear of having to start over again with a new regime by ripping goat or me or anybody who doubts shanny. [B]Are you THAT SURE that this team will be winning in year five???? [/B]


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I can't see the future, but I would put my money on yes. He said 5 years, and we are already winning. 2-3 is not 1-4, or 0-5.. This is the NFL, and there is not one team that is perfect. I didn't see the the Falcons board screaming to fire their offensive cordinator because they had two plays that threw passes to a backup center.

Shanahan came in and said it would take 5 years. I'm willing to give him that. He's done a lot of good for this franchise and we are currently 1 game out of the division lead.

I have a strong feeling if we win next week, and go in to NY the following with the division lead at stake. The vibrations of failure could change around here.

Everyone is so easy to scream failure. I understand everyone has different opinions, but this day and age NFL isn't perfect.. People and teams will get better or worse. I believe we are getting better.

Packers got beat by the Colts yesterday, and they are now 2-3.. The worse team in the NFL last year just beat the team that was in the Superbowl. I believe we were an injury away from perhaps winning against a team that is now 5-0 this year.

We are not as far off as people think in my opinion.