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Not really. Maybe you could say that from last game, but one day doesn't make a streak.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;951752]Not really. Maybe you could say that from last game, but one day doesn't make a streak.[/quote]

Tampa slowed us down after the second half. And Tampa D not good either. We are worst than what we seem .

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[quote=Deivybaby;951755]Tampa slowed us down after the second half. And Tampa D not good either. We are worst than what we seem .[/quote]

Thanks for the insight, Eeyore....

I saw the first game of the season and they looked pretty good. There were bound to be a few ups and downs as the team builds towards what it wants to be. Not going 19 - 0 in the first year with a rookie QB but we're still far better than in previous seasons. We put up points now!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;951749]I feel you. Today I get to watch the Hokies inevitably lose to f-ing Duke. [B]Yay sports.[/B] :([/quote]

Haha exactly. Sports is what makes us feel great one day and like complete Sh!t the next day.


(However that Nats loss was the worst sports loss in all of DC sports last night)

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John Keim...this guy writes great stuff and makes great points..

"He and Richard Crawford are a lot alike in this regard. Crawford is not having the same sort of impact as Morris, but he’s elevated himself to this role because he relies on more than talent to succeed. Both are among the smarter rookies I’ve covered. Having those two in a class with Griffin has to make this one of the smarter rookie classes I’ve been around, especially when it comes to providing insight. It’s good for me and it’s terrific for fans"

from his latest observation column

Re: Week 6 Washington Redskins vs Minnesota Vikings Pregame Thread
 

[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;951752]Not really. Maybe you could say that from last game, but one day doesn't make a streak.[/quote]

Absolutely the offense regressed the last two games. The Bucs are a flat out lousy defense and we didn't break 30 points.

The bigger picture is whether Mike and Kyle can put together a traditional style offense that scores points. We all have seen the offense is lethal when you put the game in RGIII's hands and run him on half our rushing downs, but that's not tenable over the course of the full season and especially not after last week's hit.

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[quote=Deivybaby;951755]Tampa slowed us down after the second half. And Tampa D not good either. We are worst than what we seem .[/quote]

I dunno. If I remember correctly they were the top rushing defense coming into that game at HOME. I also remember we shredded them for 3 times what they normally give up.

Just me, but that's what I REMEMBER.

Part of me also has a foggy recollection of RG3 toasting them down the field for a game-winning drive. That's just me though.

Last game you MIGHT be able to make an argument, but we lost RG3 so the jury is out on that game.

I swear we score 28 ppg and people will find something to bitch about

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Are the Redskins favorite to win this game?

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;951773]I dunno. If I remember correctly they were the top rushing defense coming into that game at HOME. I also remember we shredded them for 3 times what they normally give up.

Just me, but that's what I REMEMBER.

Part of me also has a foggy recollection of RG3 toasting them down the field for a game-winning drive. That's just me though.

Last game you MIGHT be able to make an argument, but we lost RG3 so the jury is out on that game.[/quote]
Thats true the running game we are pretty good. RG3 didnt lose us any games but the fact is our O didn't do nothing in the half of the Rams game we destroyed the Saints and the bengals D is awful too.

You are right tho . Im just saying we have yet to play even a good good D yet we are playing teams who struggle. ATL last game had QB's having bad ratings so its no surprise there D is better than we think passing wise.

Bucs also gave Eli manning like a career day in yards like 500 yards?

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;951777]Are the Redskins favorite to win this game?[/quote]

[url=http://www.thespread.com/nfl-articles/101212-2012-nfl-week-6-odds-vikings-vs-redskins-point-spread-a-betting-trends#.UHnW8cXA9IE]2012 NFL Week 6 Odds Vikings vs Redskins Point Spread & Betting Trends | TheSpread.com[/url]

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1368911-vikings-vs-redskins-spread-info-line-and-predictions]Vikings vs. Redskins: Spread Info, Line and Predictions | Bleacher Report[/url]

If you're a betting man, yes, we are.

So what d is good in the NFL?? Most teams have avg other below avg defenses this year. That argument is old

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[quote=skinsfaninok;951775]I swear we score 28 ppg and people will find something to bitch about[/quote]

Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

Apparently, according to the predictions thread, if we win by 13 points but allow over 20, some people will be angry.

Redonkulous.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;951784]So what d is good in the NFL?? Most teams have avg other below avg defenses this year. That argument is old[/quote]

Texans, Niners, Ravens, Giants (streaky but sooooo dangerous when it peaks), Falcons, Bears and (surprisingly) the Vikings are all quite good this season. The SB winner is probably in the group (not the Vikings lol).

Then you've got group probably led by the Cardinals, Patriots, Steelers, Rams that are quality.

Then somewhere way down toward the bottom is the Skins defense.

You know what's really, really old? Excuses for why Mike Shanahan can't build a solid team and win in a good division.

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[quote=The Goat;951808]Texans, Niners, Ravens, Giants (streaky but sooooo dangerous when it peaks), Falcons, Bears and (surprisingly) the Vikings are all quite good this season. The SB winner is probably in the group (not the Vikings lol).

Then you've got group probably led by the Cardinals, Patriots, Steelers, Rams that are quality.

Then somewhere way down toward the bottom is the Skins defense.

You know what's really, really old? Excuses for why Mike Shanahan can't build a solid team and win in a good division.[/quote]
Thank u. For some reason people bash you but you mostly speak the truth . It took Shanny 3 years to finally try and rebuild? shouldnt QB and RB been adress year one? even on D why was 3-4 changed ......it was still 4-3 units heck it is still now. Shanny is overrated 2 sbs in 1998-99 guess what guys its 2012 . We have entered a new era.

Re: Week 6 Washington Redskins vs Minnesota Vikings Pregame Thread
 

[quote=The Goat;951808]Texans, Niners, Ravens, Giants (streaky but sooooo dangerous when it peaks), Falcons, Bears and (surprisingly) the Vikings are all quite good this season. The SB winner is probably in the group (not the Vikings lol).

Then you've got group probably led by the Cardinals, Patriots, Steelers, Rams that are quality.

Then somewhere way down toward the bottom is the Skins defense.

You know what's really, really old? [B]Excuses for why Mike Shanahan can't build a solid team and win in a good division[/B].[/quote]
..........do 2 Super Bowl wins count?

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[quote=Hog1;951813]..........do 2 Super Bowl wins count?[/quote]

in 98-99 man lol Let it gooooooo Shanny been done man I was excited about him because Zorn and Cerrito where leaving but now I see why Denver let him go. And he was in a easier division than the NFCE he is just not the coach you want within our division we bite his division stood and looked and hesistated.

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Sooooo...is that a yes? Or is that...a No?

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Fans will always complain. Especially the ones that don't know anything but what the see on T.V.

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[quote=The Goat;951770]Absolutely the offense regressed the last two games. The Bucs are a flat out lousy defense and we didn't break 30 points.

The bigger picture is whether Mike and Kyle can put together a traditional style offense that scores points. We all have seen the offense is lethal when you put the game in RGIII's hands and run him on half our rushing downs, but that's not tenable over the course of the full season and especially not after last week's hit.[/quote]

Add in the three FGs Cundiff missed and we would have broke 30.

[QUOTE=The Goat;951770]Absolutely the offense regressed the last two games. The Bucs are a flat out lousy defense and we didn't break 30 points.

The bigger picture is whether Mike and Kyle can put together a traditional style offense that scores points. We all have seen the offense is lethal when you put the game in RGIII's hands and run him on half our rushing downs, but that's not tenable over the course of the full season and especially not after last week's hit.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone else see an irony in a redskin fan complaining about the offense regressing because it failed to score 30 points?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;951826]Does anyone else see an irony in a redskin fan complaining about the offense regressing because it failed to score 30 points?[/quote]

Lol yea 30 on the saints-bengals who have top 5 worst D in league they are ranked that because they r easy to score on.

Why doesnt any one see the irony of us allowing 25 points a gm.

[QUOTE=Deivybaby;951827]Lol yea 30 on the saints-bengals who have top 5 worst D in league they are ranked that because they r easy to score on.

Why doesnt any one see the irony of us allowing 25 points a gm.[/QUOTE]

We all agree that the defense sucks lol but your not accepting the fact that we are pretty good on offense, maybe u don't like the shannys idk but 28 ppg after 5 weeks is pretty dang good

[QUOTE=Deivybaby;951827]Lol yea 30 on the saints-bengals who have top 5 worst D in league they are ranked that because they r easy to score on.

Why doesnt any one see the irony of us allowing 25 points a gm.[/QUOTE]

for the record, points per game our opponents are ranked:
NO 29th
StL 9th
Cin 21st(not bottom 5 as you claimed)
TB. 17th
Atl. 8th

We scored 24 or more in each game (I know the d could be credited with a td in each game but unless you want to start defending the defense lets table that part)
conversely Minnesota has reached 30 only once and there opponents d's ranks aren't much different:
Jac 24th
Ind. 23rd
SF. 1st
Det. 26th (2tds were long special teams returns)
Tenn. 31st (incidentally the only team Minnesota scored 30 against)

edit: changed rankings from total points to points per game to account for bye weeks. stats from espn.com

As for the irony of the D, I dont really see it as ironic. Shanahan historically has weak d's, we have lost several key players, and we knew our secondary was a weakness going into the season. Shanahan and Haslett should be accountable for that part at seasons end.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;951829]for the record, points wise our opponents are ranked:
NO 30th
StL 11th
Cin 24th(not bottom 5 as you claimed)
TB. 9th
Atl. 10th

We scored 24 or more in each game (I know the d could be credited with a td in each game but unless you want to start defending the defense lets table that part)
conversely Minnesota has reached 30 only once and there opponents d's ranks aren't much different:
Jac 26th
Ind. 15th
SF. 1st
Det. 19th(tied with denver)
Tenn. 32nd (worst in the nfl and incidentally the only team Minnesota scored 30 against)

As for the irony of the D, I dont really see it as ironic. Shanahan historically has weak d's, we have lost several key players, and we knew our secondary was a weakness going into the season. Shanahan and Haslett should be accountable for that part at seasons end.[/quote]
STOP IT with...facts and well contrived logic....
THAT, Sir has no place here!

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Wow, the powers that be must be ill? There usually is a game day thread up either prior to game day or put up just after midnight. Loo.

So today and today only I am a Ravens fan, Lions fan, and 49er fan.