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Amazes me that some still have a problem with Kyle given the numbers the offense is putting up. :doh:

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Not only that the Steelers are VERY beatable. Our offense hasn't been figured out by anyone yet and I think for once our D matches up well against their offense.

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So is there legitimate fear that Kyle will no longer be a redskins coach next year? I'm confused, is he being looked at as a HC candidate?

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[quote=RedskinRat;955651]Yes, I am starting my own wave of idiotic positivity to counter the idiotic negativity we sometimes see on this site.[/quote]

Gotta fight idiot with idiot sometimes.

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[quote=punch it in;955630]Read my posts. He was QC for one year. That was after he jumped into the nfl after ONE year as a grad asst! Minus those two years he has worked under his father and Kubiack - who might as well be his father! It has to be the easiest path to a potential HC job in the history of the sport.


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If you re-read my post and understand it, you will see that it doesn't matter who has done the hiring. He still has been climbing the rungs.

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Our offense is good and there are people who think it would be good for KS to leave. I'm becoming increasingly convinced humanity is doomed.

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[quote=Mattyk;955655]Amazes me that some still have a problem with Kyle given the numbers the offense is putting up. :doh:[/quote]

it's some of his choices throughout the games is all...

it's good kyle bad kyle and which one is gonna show up on this drive...

like rex lol

his inconsistency kills me the most but i do think he's doing a good job... 73% of the time..

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[quote=Mattyk;955655]Amazes me that some still have a problem with Kyle given the numbers the offense is putting up. :doh:[/quote]

I still get pissed at some of the play calls. Late in the game, 3rd down and we got for a 50 yard bomb? Don't see the logic in that and plays like that when he runs them at crucial points.

Otherwise I think he's finally gotten better, primarily due to having the QB and players to run the system, but he still leaves me scratching my head sometimes.

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[quote=InsaneBoost;955667]I still get pissed at some of the play calls. Late in the game, 3rd down and we got for a 50 yard bomb? Don't see the logic in that and plays like that when he runs them at crucial points.

Otherwise I think he's finally gotten better, primarily due to having the QB and players to run the system, but he still leaves me scratching my head sometimes.[/quote]

Here's the thing...those are read plays. Every passing we play we run, and most every team runs, are read plays. Check the coverage and if you get X look you do Y. Bob checked coverage and saw what he thought would be single over the top coverage and went for it. It just missed. Remember when we ha d a strong arm QB a few years ago and NEVER threw that. Because we didn't trust him. It killed us all the time.

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[quote=FRPLG;955669]Here's the thing...those are read plays. Every passing we play we run, and most every team runs, are read plays. Check the coverage and if you get X look you do Y. Bob checked coverage and saw what he thought would be single over the top coverage and went for it. It just missed. Remember when we ha d a strong arm QB a few years ago and NEVER threw that. Because we didn't trust him. It killed us all the time.[/quote]

Yeah it looked like he didn't have anything open so he pulled a Rexy and tried a deep shot.

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[quote=Mattyk;955672]Yeah it looked like he didn't have anything open so he pulled a Rexy and tried a deep shot.[/quote]

Yeah I mean we did the same thing earlier this year and scored a TD on a 4th down...no one complained then...when it worked.

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[quote=FRPLG;955674]Yeah I mean we did the same thing earlier this year and scored a TD on a 4th down...no one complained then...when it worked.[/quote]

Of course when plays don't work, that's when everyone blames the call.

Sometimes players just don't execute. And sometimes the D just shuts it down.

I always find the play calling debates to be so mind numbing. Especially when our primary problem yesterday boiled down to turnovers. Yet people still want to nitpick about the plays when we have a top 6 offense in scoring & yardage.

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back to this thread, Im really happy cooley is back.

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Anyone knows the details of Cooley's contract? 1 year?

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[quote=Mattyk;955655]Amazes me that some still have a problem with Kyle given the numbers the offense is putting up. :doh:[/quote]

Makes no sense at all.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;955655]Amazes me that some still have a problem with Kyle given the numbers the offense is putting up. :doh:[/QUOTE]

I realize some have a problem with him. I personally have a problem with people comparing him to Bill Walsh or saying he has earned his spot in the nfl. Just want to put that out there for the record. Kyle was here two years and our offense couldnt get out of its own way. RG-3 shows up and were ranked - what - 4th? I dont know about you but i know who i consider the main player in that uprising.


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[quote=Mattyk;955655]Amazes me that some still have a problem with Kyle given the numbers the offense is putting up. :doh:[/quote]

I think what frustrates some fans is his calls at the most crucial part of the games. The option play on 3rd and I guess it was 6 or 7 is just awful. Gotta throw it there or at least try and play action. But other than a few questionable calls Kyle has done a really nice job with this new offense.

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[quote=punch it in;955691]I realize some have a problem with him. I personally have a problem with people comparing him to Bill Walsh or saying he has earned his spot in the nfl. Just want to put that out there for the record. Kyle was here two years and our offense couldnt get out of its own way. [B]RG-3 shows up and were ranked - what - 4th? I dont know about you but i know who i consider the main player in that uprising. [/B]


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True. But you still have to credit them for molding the offense around RG3. The offense looks like Baylor's. Would all coaches around the NFL do this? I don't know.

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[quote=punch it in;955691]I realize some have a problem with him. I personally have a problem with people comparing him to Bill Walsh or saying he has earned his spot in the nfl. Just want to put that out there for the record. Kyle was here two years and our offense couldnt get out of its own way. RG-3 shows up and were ranked - what - 4th? I dont know about you but i know who i consider the main player in that uprising.


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He hasn't earned his spot? He's lead some high powered offenses in this league. Anyone in the know doesn't question his knowledge of X's and O's.

If he's going to take bashing for what happened the last 2 years, fine. But it's only fair to give him credit for this year then. It's no surprise that the offense has greatly improved with RG3, talent always makes the scheme go.

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[quote=skinsfan69;955692]I think what frustrates some fans is his calls at the most crucial part of the games. The option play on 3rd and I guess it was 6 or 7 is just awful. Gotta throw it there or at least try and play action. But other than a few questionable calls Kyle has done a really nice job with this new offense.[/quote]

Find me a OC who calls a game 100% to the fan's liking. I'd love to see it. When a play doesn't work everyone has the answers in hindsight.

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Kyle has made me a believer this year. If he leaves next year, he will be missed. If we bring in somebody for OC, scheme needs to stay similar. Changing a bunch of sh*t up in just a second year would be a fail.

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[quote=Mattyk;955701]Find me a OC who calls a game 100% to the fan's liking. I'd love to see it. When a play doesn't work everyone has the answers in hindsight.[/quote]clark shaughnessy

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[quote=Chico23231;955703]Kyle has made me a believer this year. If he leaves next year, he will be missed. If we bring in somebody for OC, scheme needs to stay similar. Changing a bunch of sh*t up in just a second year would be a fail.[/quote]

Heres the thing. It will be the fourth year. And if we finish comparable to our current record, a 4th straight season of being below .500.

Like I've said before, I root for our coaches. I think Mike has done well with AM and the Oline. But the real reason we are clicking on offense is because of RG3. I believe that RG3 is having some of his success in spite of the playcalling, making something out of nothing. Im sure some successes can be directly attributed to the brilliant mind that is Kyle Shanahan. If I had to take one or the other, Id wager that RG3 would be doing just fine without Kyle Shanahan, and that Kyle Shanahan would still be stinking it up without the all universe QB they now have to lean on.

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[quote=Mechanix544;955707]Heres the thing. It will be the fourth year. And if we finish comparable to our current record, a 4th straight season of being below .500.

Like I've said before, I root for our coaches. I think Mike has done well with AM and the Oline. But the real reason we are clicking on offense is because of RG3. I believe that RG3 is having some of his success in spite of the playcalling, making something out of nothing. Im sure some successes can be directly attributed to the brilliant mind that is Kyle Shanahan. If I had to take one or the other, Id wager that RG3 would be doing just fine without Kyle Shanahan, and that Kyle Shanahan would still be stinking it up without the all universe QB they now have to lean on.[/quote]

Guess we'll know soon enough.

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;955694]True. But you still have to credit them for molding the offense around RG3. The offense looks like Baylor's. Would all coaches around the NFL do this? I don't know.[/QUOTE]

Um maybe some would be stubborn or stupid enough to say " hey were gonna make you a pure pocket passer and not really allow you to get outside the pocket and make plays Robert". Lol. How much credit do they deserve for letting RG-3 be RG-3? But ok Kyle gets a check mark for not making the wrong decision there.


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[quote=SmootSmack;955708]Guess we'll know soon enough.[/quote]

I doubt it. I think RG3's performance will "earn" the Shandem another year, possibly two if he just starts to go out of his mind ridiculous.

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[quote=SmootSmack;955708]Guess we'll know soon enough.[/quote]

any word on the replacement?

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Coooooooooooooooooley!

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[quote=Mechanix544;955713]I doubt it. I think RG3's performance will "earn" the Shandem another year, possibly two if he just starts to go out of his mind ridiculous.[/quote]

No one in their right mind would fire Kyle Shanahan this year.

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[quote=Chico23231;955714]any word on the replacement?[/quote]

Ike Hilliard...j/k

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;955715]Coooooooooooooooooley![/quote]

Good point man. That's what this thread should be about

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[quote=SmootSmack;955719]No one in their right mind would fire Kyle Shanahan this year.[/quote]

I'm confused here, is Kyle leaving after this year?

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doubtful... i think the offense will continue to get better, and some of his facepalm play calls should start to disappear and he may just earn his spot here for years to come working hand in hand with RG3

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[quote=mbedner3420;955724]I'm confused here, is Kyle leaving after this year?[/quote]

Yes. Jon Gruden is coming in and we're trading for Jay Cutler AND Brandon Marshall.

Welcome to The Warpath.

It's ridiculous to already discuss our offensive coordinator leaving after 7 games. Ntm our offense is a top 5 in the league smh.

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[quote=punch it in;955564]Cooley is always gonna be a Redskin great. You never have to change your name. Nor should you.


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Yeah, I'm just playing, especially in a post to Smootsmack (glad he didn't change his). I love Cooley and I'm too lazy to change my username anyway, I hear it takes a super-majority among the moderators, and Smooty's been filibustering most requests, not to mention how much Matty loves to use of his veto power. Stinkin checks and balances and separation of powers. I propose an amendment to the Warpath Constitution. :)

Back on track, I do hope Cooley can get back into a game or two, but I fear his loss of speed will make him only a possession, move the chains, tight end that won't stretch defenses the way Davis has and will allow defenses to stack the box more. Either way, I think this means Cooley will likely retire a Redskin without having played for another team. I'm a sentimental guy, so I hate seeing players finish out their careers with a year or two in a strange jersey like Monk with the Jets of Montana with the Chiefs (although I understand why they do it and I certainly would too if offered a similar opportunity).

I'll miss Davis's speed, but maybe we'll get him for relatively cheap for a year or two extension now. Hope he recovers quickly.

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[quote=Monkeydad;955727]Yes. Jon Gruden is coming in and we're trading for Jay Cutler AND Brandon Marshall.

Welcome to The Warpath.[/quote]

And we're trading our 2, 3, and 4th picks for a host of 6th and 7th rounders. You need to stockpile picks plus thats where all the gems are.

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One thing missing from the boards is that Logan Paulsen had a monster game yesterday...

* All 4 catches were huge, clutch, 1st down makers
* He did not drop a single pass.... and two were very difficult catches (he has very good hands... who knew!?)
* His key block down field sprung Moss for the first TD

I think this guy is actually going to do WORK for us the rest of the way... He can block AND catch... I was thoroughly impressed with his work yesterday

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[quote=Mattyk;955677]Of course when plays don't work, that's when everyone blames the call.

Sometimes players just don't execute. And sometimes the D just shuts it down.

I always find the play calling debates to be so mind numbing. Especially when our primary problem yesterday boiled down to turnovers. Yet people still want to nitpick about the plays when we have a top 6 offense in scoring & yardage.[/quote]

Play-calling had everything to do with two of the turnovers, RG3's INT and fumble, and nearly caused a third turnover when the defense recognized another option read and blew up the play in the backfield.

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One thing this team has is workers. I don't think any player takes plays off, and that [B][U]is[/U][/B] attributable to coaching. One thing I don't understand though, is it's not like Shanahan shouldn't know that he has always had weak defenses, so why can't he get that side of the ball right. Just very odd.