[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;962400]As someone who has no insurance and gets no benefits at work, Planned Parenthood is my everything. I'm glad I get to see it for at least another 4 years.[/QUOTE]

I was being sarcastic. I completely agree with you.

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[quote=hooskins;962377]Again, I think you and AW are looking at this the same way the GOP is; incorrectly. Unless this mindset changes, the Republicans will not be competitive for years to come.

This was the GOPs election to lose. Almost 8 percent unemployment, low approval ratings and a sluggish economy. Yet Mitt still lost. Why? Women, Latinos and the younger population (black vote didn't change from 08). The GOP has alienated these groups of people with their far right social beliefs and immigration policy. For the latter, Republicans support self deportation, voter id laws, illegal (racist) vehicle stops. Why would any of these groups vote for Romney?

Look, keep on making the excuses about welfare and food stamps. I hope you do, because as even Michael Steele said, the Republicans will lose generations of a growing population. The GOP will just become the OP. And I don't mean Original Playa.[/quote]

I agree the GOP needs to change its social policy and needs to get away for god, gays, and abortion.

[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;962402]Oh you are right.... a big part of the younger generations are huge bleeding hearts. Its like some quasi rebooted hippy version movement from the 60's.
You wont be able to recognize this country in 20 years, I barely recognize it now. Bleeding hearts will win.....America will lose, well until the name is changed to the United Porous Borders of North Mexico.[/QUOTE]

AW I don't know what to say to you. Keep on leaning that non existent crutch. Its not about that at all.

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[quote=Giantone;962387]You mean the ads where Romney himself is saying and I quote"I will overturn Roe V Wade, and I will get rid of Planned Parenthood"end quote...you mean those ads?[/quote]

I'm not going to debate that anymore what I said was correct. He never said he would get rid of planned parenthood and said he would stop federal funding.

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[quote=hooskins;962425]AW I don't know what to say to you. Keep on leaning that non existent crutch. Its not about that at all.[/quote]

You'll understand......in time.

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8P-vib5n8&feature=related]Interview-Why she loves welfare, food stamps, and Obamacare - YouTube[/ame]

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[quote=firstdown;962434][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8P-vib5n8&feature=related]Interview-Why she loves welfare, food stamps, and Obamacare - YouTube[/url][/quote]


You do realize this woman is a comedian that does these skits right?


[url=http://www.youtube.com/user/glozell1]GloZell's Reality Show Life - YouTube[/url]

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[quote=firstdown;962431]I'm not going to debate that anymore what I said was correct. He never said he would get rid of planned parenthood and said he would stop federal funding.[/quote]


No. He said it. You just are in denial.



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[quote=NC_Skins;962448]No. He said it. You just are in denial.

[/quote]

Your logic is flawed...stabbing it and letting it bleed to death not the same as killing it. Fortunately we have pistol called Obama and he blasted their asses before they could get to stabbing and raping.

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[quote=NC_Skins;962445][IMG]http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/559039_551648674864590_356949102_n.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Amazing!

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[quote=NC_Skins;962448]No. He said it. You just are in denial.



[YT]OLM_nDczR2g[/YT][/quote]

Its Funding for planned parenthood. Planned parenthodd is not a federal program they just recieve federal grants like a college.

[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;962432]You'll understand......in time.[/QUOTE]

I do understand you. There are lots of people just like you with flawed logic. I feel bad for you, I truly do.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;962447]You do realize this woman is a comedian that does these skits right?


[url=http://www.youtube.com/user/glozell1]GloZell's Reality Show Life - YouTube[/url][/QUOTE]

Lolz

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[quote=hooskins;962465]I do understand you. There are lots of people just like you with flawed logic. I feel bad for you, I truly do.[/quote]

I think what he is trying to say is that you haven't been mugged yet.

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This was not a strategic race, it was a tactical race eh? What exactly was his job? Wasn't it to do better with the Latinos? Get your voters out? Compete and convince the people you were better choice? He just admitted to being trounced despite Obama's lackluster support compared to 2008...What a fcking idiot.

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Romney campaign concedes Florida. 332.

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[quote=12thMan;962493]Romney campaign concedes Florida. 332.[/quote]


This election with Romney was like watching a one legged man in a ass kicking contest.

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Interesting footnote: We lost Georgia by less than 10 points. The Latino/Hispanic population there has doubled in the past 10 years to over 850K.

Obama also reached high 40s in MS, NC, and SC. The new south baby!

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;962496][IMG]http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/63089_10151299959267177_1113898282_n.jpg[/IMG]







This election with Romney was like watching a one legged man in a ass kicking contest.[/QUOTE]

Lmao. Awesome NC.

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[quote=NC_Skins;962496][IMG]http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/63089_10151299959267177_1113898282_n.jpg[/IMG]







This election with Romney was like watching a one legged man in a ass kicking contest.[/quote]

2004 election what's your f*&King point that you keep trying to make this about race.

[URL="http://politicalpulse.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/2004map.jpg"][IMG]http://politicalpulse.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/2004map.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

[QUOTE=firstdown;962509]2004 election what's your f*&King point that you keep trying to make this about race.

[URL="http://politicalpulse.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/2004map.jpg"][IMG]http://politicalpulse.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/2004map.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE]

Could be wrong but what does a one legged man have to do with race?

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One of my favs might still have a shot:

[url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/source-allen-west-now-leads-initial-vote-count-in-one-fla-county/]Source: Allen West Now Leads Initial Vote Count in One Fla. County | TheBlaze.com[/url]

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[quote=firstdown;962509]2004 election what's your f*&King point that you keep trying to make this about race.

[URL="http://politicalpulse.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/2004map.jpg"][IMG]http://politicalpulse.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/2004map.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/quote]


I believe he is trying to tell you that you're getting squeezed in a quickly changing landscape and that as of now your party's constituency comprises of people who reside in the confederate state block.

...in other words...you're fcked if you don't adapt.

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[quote=mlmpetert;962514]One of my favs might still have a shot:

[url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/source-allen-west-now-leads-initial-vote-count-in-one-fla-county/]Source: Allen West Now Leads Initial Vote Count in One Fla. County | TheBlaze.com[/url][/quote]


LOL...man, you guys are still hopeful. I suppose that's a good thing.

[QUOTE=saden1;962516]I believe he is trying to tell you that you're getting squeezed in a quickly changing landscape and that as of now your party's constituency comprises of people who reside in the confederate state block.

...in other words...you're fcked if you don't adapt.[/QUOTE]

My bad. Didnt notice that second graph. Was looking at it on my iphone. The vote count did grow in those "confederate states". So they are adapting. No doubt though that race played a part in the election. Sad but true. Im by no means calling anybody on this site racist but they are out there. They want to point at Obamas failures to disguise their disgust with a black president. Bottom line is Obama got shot down alot by the house/ senate/ congress because alot of those republicans acted out of spite as opposed to reason. I hope they learned their lesson and work together this time in the name of progress.

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[quote=12thMan;962493]Romney campaign concedes Florida. 332.[/quote]

Romney crashed and burned.

lol @ Republicans

More crash and burn action

[url=http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/Ken-Walshs-Washington/2012/11/08/is-karl-roves-political-career-over]Is Karl Rove's Political Career Over? - Ken Walsh's Washington (usnews.com)[/url]

[QUOTE=Mattyk;962533]Romney crashed and burned.

lol @ Republicans

More crash and burn action

[url=http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/Ken-Walshs-Washington/2012/11/08/is-karl-roves-political-career-over]Is Karl Rove's Political Career Over? - Ken Walsh's Washington (usnews.com)[/url][/QUOTE]

Matty are you gloating?

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[quote=RedskinRat;962066]But I'm racist because I don't like his politics or his process?[/quote]

[quote=Alvin Walton;962069]Yea man, you imply that someone is racist and its such a demonized word all you have to do is toss it out there as a generalization and you win all arguments.[/quote]

[quote=firstdown;962509]2004 election what's your f*&King point that you keep trying to make this about race.[/quote]


Going to kill 3 birds with one stone here. First off, I never said that everybody who voted against Obama did so because they are racist. Otherwise, I would have to include myself in that statement since I didn't vote for Obama. (Johnson-white guy)

However, lets be real here. In the deep south, race plays a part. A huge part.

[url=http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/ole_miss_students_start_racist_protest_after_election_result/]Ole Miss students start racist protest after election result - Salon.com[/url]

[url=http://www.jdjournal.com/2012/11/08/racist-tweets-abound-after-obama-wins-second-term/]Racist Tweets Abound after Obama Wins Second Term | JD Journal[/url]

[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/hate-on-social-media_b_1715976.html]Earl Ofari Hutchinson: Hate on Social Media Against President Obama Soars[/url]



(listen to this man's words...)
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Nah....it's not about race one bit. :rolleyes:

ps: FD, your 2004 graph still proves the other graph correct.

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The race element is definitely out there. As someone who has spent some time in the deep south the past few years, I've heard it loud and clear with my own ears. To deny it's out there is just plain ignorant.

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[quote=NC_Skins;962543]
(listen to this man's words...)
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Nah....it's not about race one bit. :rolleyes:

ps: FD, your 2004 graph still proves the other graph correct.[/quote]

I loved Bill Maher's response to O'Reilly's retarded rant

[quote]O'Reilly just said people vote for Obama cuz they "want stuff", then cited blacks, Latinos and women. White men in US? TOTALLY SELF-RELIANT![/quote]

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[quote=NC_Skins;962543]Going to kill 3 birds with one stone here. First off, I never said that everybody who voted against Obama did so because they are racist. Otherwise, I would have to include myself in that statement since I didn't vote for Obama. (Johnson-white guy)

However, lets be real here. In the deep south, race plays a part. A huge part.

[url=http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/ole_miss_students_start_racist_protest_after_election_result/]Ole Miss students start racist protest after election result - Salon.com[/url]

[url=http://www.jdjournal.com/2012/11/08/racist-tweets-abound-after-obama-wins-second-term/]Racist Tweets Abound after Obama Wins Second Term | JD Journal[/url]

[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/hate-on-social-media_b_1715976.html]Earl Ofari Hutchinson: Hate on Social Media Against President Obama Soars[/url]



(listen to this man's words...)
[YT]NZZt3jPDvNQ[/YT]


Nah....it's not about race one bit. :rolleyes:

ps: FD, your 2004 graph still proves the other graph correct.[/quote]

I wonder if 20 years ago a Mormon had a chance at the presidency. They are going through the 5 stages of grief but I am not hopeful they will emerge from it as more enlightened.

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[quote=Mattyk;962544]The race element is definitely out there. As someone who has spent some time in the deep south the past few years, I've heard it loud and clear with my own ears. To deny it's out there is just plain ignorant.[/quote]

The only people who deny racism are those who've never encountered it. Yes, its not 1950 anymore, but it reminds me of the sketch from Family Guy (since I can't find the video, here's the transcript):

Cleveland: Thanks for including my Civil Rights boardgame in the game night rotation guys.
Lois: Oh, we're always happy to play "Two Decades of Dignity." It makes us all feel a little less guilty.
(Peter rolls dice and moves his gamepiece.)
Peter (reading off a gamecard): For whistling at a white woman, go directly to jail. Aww, man doesn't anyone ever win at this game?
Cleveland: You don't win. You just do a little better each time.

Was race a part of the vote? Sure. But lets not pretend it was a one way street.
Less than 60% of whites voted for Romney.
More than 90% of blacks voted for Obama.
Racism works both ways: there are whites who would never vote for a black and vice versa.

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;962553]The only people who deny racism are those who've never encountered it. Yes, its not 1950 anymore, but it reminds me of the sketch from Family Guy (since I can't find the video, here's the transcript):

Cleveland: Thanks for including my Civil Rights boardgame in the game night rotation guys.
Lois: Oh, we're always happy to play "Two Decades of Dignity." It makes us all feel a little less guilty.
(Peter rolls dice and moves his gamepiece.)
Peter (reading off a gamecard): For whistling at a white woman, go directly to jail. Aww, man doesn't anyone ever win at this game?
Cleveland: You don't win. You just do a little better each time.[/QUOTE]

Hahaha yeah I remember that bit. So funny because it's true.

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;962555]Was race a part of the vote? Sure. But lets not pretend it was a one way street.
Less than 60% of whites voted for Romney.
More than 90% of blacks voted for Obama.
Racism works both ways: there are whites who would never vote for a black and vice versa.[/QUOTE]

Of course it is. A lot of blacks who won't vote for Romney because he's white.

I do think that's slightly different vs. when i hear people in the south drape themselves with the Confederate flag and call Obama a terrorist n*****.

Seen it plenty just down in Charlottesville, VA.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;962555]Was race a part of the vote? Sure. But lets not pretend it was a one way street.
Less than 60% of whites voted for Romney.
More than 90% of blacks voted for Obama.
Racism works both ways: there are whites who would never vote for a black and vice versa.[/quote]

This is not a chicken and egg problem. It's a problem that spawned from years of repressive tactics, the southern dog whistles, and more recently the blatant disrespect of 47% of the population. Here is the break down of the African American vote over the last 7 cycles...the truth is in the last 12 years you managed to not only lose it further but to agitate and encourage it to not vote for you.


[quote]
1984 Walter Mondale 90% Ronald Reagan 9%
1988 Michael Dukakis 90% George H.W. Bush 10%
1992 Bill Clinton 83% George H.W. Bush 10%
1996 Bill Clinton 84% Bob Dole 12%
2000 Al Gore 90% George W. Bush 9%
2004 John Kerry 88%, George W. Bush 11%
2008 Barack Obama 95%, John McCain 13%
[/quote]

It is easier to blame African Americans than look in the mirror. Mark my words, come 2020 your little redistricting gimmicks to control the house won't work as well as it has been the last 30 years.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;962555]Was race a part of the vote? Sure. But lets not pretend it was a one way street.
Less than 60% of whites voted for Romney.
More than 90% of blacks voted for Obama.
Racism works both ways: there are whites who would never vote for a black and vice versa.[/quote]

It's not like Romney was pandering for minority votes anyway. The religious right is much more important.