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On PTI last night, they said the Rams "fired" Gregg Williams and commented that it was kind of pointless since hes suspended indefinitely, but that this just meant he wouldnt get his job back if he were reinstated.

I havent seen this reported anywhere else. Has anyone heard he was fired, or do you think they mixed him up with his son's firing?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;983266]I like 2 of the 3 but I wouldn't say those are game changing types of players. It wasn't like he got us London or RG3. Keep in mind its Bruce Allen whos the man. (waiting for someone like Smoot to correct me in 5..4..)[/quote]

Its my understanding Allen has less to do with personel than any other "GM" in the league. For all intents and purposes, Shanahan is our teams top personnel guy, with Brown being his #2. Of course, thats solely based on what i've seen other people say, so could be wrong? Were you assuming Allen runs the show or is that something you know? I'm very concerned about Brown leaving. If i were to hear he's not as crucial to the teams composition as ive thought, it would definitely reduce some anxiety lol.

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I haven't heard anything about Gregg Williams being fired

And someone should a thread about what the different people in the Redskins FO are responsible for

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[quote=Paintrain;983252]I would actually feel sorry for Lovie if he got that job. That and the Cleveland jobs are just roads to nowhere. Can't win there, free agents (typically) have no interest in going there unless they are overpaid to do so, bad weather, bad stadiums, bad roster compositions, ugh.[/quote]

Well you could say the same thing about Green Bay. All Buffalo needs is a great player at QB, just like they had with Jim Kelly. Once they get that then they have a chance.

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So this is why KC wants Reid...

[YT]B4gNFL2upZE&[/YT]

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[quote=Ruhskins;983362]So this is why KC wants Reid...

[YT][url]http://B4gNFL2upZE&feature=youtu.be[/url][/YT][/quote]?
[YT]B4gNFL2upZE[/YT]

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It was a joke about him being able to pass the ball better than the KC QBs. Youtube fail.

Reid looks like a giant at 13 years old!

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[quote=SmootSmack;983352]I haven't heard anything about Gregg Williams being fired

[B]And someone should a thread about what the different people in the Redskins FO are responsible for[/B][/quote]

You mean like this one? :)

[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/50072-getting-know-front-office-understanding-scouting.html"]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/50072-getting-know-front-office-understanding-scouting.html[/URL]

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[quote=Ruhskins;983365]It was a joke about him being able to pass the ball better than the KC QBs. Youtube fail.

Reid looks like a giant at 13 years old![/quote]just take the code after watch?v= part > cut it > paste it > highlight it and click the youtube button

B4gNFL2upZE in this case

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[quote=los panda;983377]just take the code after watch?v= part > cut it > paste it > highlight it and click the youtube button

B4gNFL2upZE in this case[/quote]

I know how to do it, just screwed it up.

Funny tweet I just saw...

NOT SportsCenter ‏@NOTSportsCenter
REPORT: The #Chargers want to speak with Lovie Smith. They love his familiarity with whiny turnover prone QBs.

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[quote=SmootSmack;983352]I haven't heard anything about Gregg Williams being fired[/quote]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/51127-black-monday-nfl-coaches-executives-carousel-10.html#post983041[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;983383][url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/51127-black-monday-nfl-coaches-executives-carousel-10.html#post983041[/url][/quote]

I haven't heard anything independently on my own

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“Definitely. I’m looking forward to having that opportunity after the season,”

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/03/kyle-shanahan-wont-interview-until-redskins-are-done/]Kyle Shanahan won’t interview until Redskins are done | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=Lotus;983366]You mean like this one? :)

[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/50072-getting-know-front-office-understanding-scouting.html"]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/50072-getting-know-front-office-understanding-scouting.html[/URL][/quote]

[quote]
[B]Director of Pro Personnel: Morocco Brown[/B]
Focus: Oversees practice squad personnel, pro player evaluation (including free agents and other leagues such as CFL), in charge of advanced scouting of next opponent. He’s the point person in the regular season. [I][B]A decision to sign say Ryan Grant is largely based on his staff's input[/B][/I]
NFL Experience: Assistant Director of Pro Personnel Bears (2002-2007), assistant scout with the Redskins (2000-2001)

[/quote]

Based on the italicized portion of the Bio, it sounds like [B][U]someone [/U][/B]doesn't think very highly of Brown. I feel better now.

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[quote=los panda;983405]“Definitely. I’m looking forward to having that opportunity after the season,”

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/03/kyle-shanahan-wont-interview-until-redskins-are-done/]Kyle Shanahan won’t interview until Redskins are done | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Here's to hoping the skins make it to the superbowl and all 7 head coaching vacancies have been filled by then or are entirely unattractive to Kyle.

Whenever Kyle goes, i hope Mike doesnt cut him a " family discount" deal in a trade for Cousins.

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Kyle is not getting a head coaching job and that's the end of that.

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hopefully snyder will give him a Goddamn pizza party instead

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;983407]Based on the italicized portion of the Bio, it sounds like [B][U]someone [/U][/B]doesn't think very highly of Brown. I feel better now.[/quote]

Nice try

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[quote=SmootSmack;983417]Nice try[/quote]

Come on, tell us - on a scale of 1 to 10, how vital do you think Brown is to our organization? In other words, would we take a step back or not even notice he was gone?

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[quote=firstdown;983413]Kyle is not getting a head coaching job and that's the end of that.[/quote]

Don't be so sure about that. If the Redskins go to SB47, Kyle Shanahan will be offered more than one head coaching vacancy. Whether he goes to interview or if he decline's the offer is a whole other thing.

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[quote=SmootSmack;983391]I haven't heard anything independently on my own[/quote]

My bad. Thought you just missed the ESPN link/report.

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I for one hope Kyle doesn't leave us. I feel like we finally have a system that is working. I mean if it ain't broke, don't fix it, right?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;983422]Come on, tell us - on a scale of 1 to 10, how vital do you think Brown is to our organization? In other words, would we take a step back or not even notice he was gone?[/quote]

He's extremely vital, but I mean I'm sure he's replaceable.

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[quote=SmootSmack;983505]He's extremely vital, but I mean I'm sure he's replaceable.[/quote]like the last beer in the house

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I happen to think Scott Campbell's work is more important but I believe Brown's more respected. Not really sure why. Think because Campbell isn't really seen as leader material

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[quote=SolidSnake84;983469]I for one hope Kyle doesn't leave us. I feel like we finally have a system that is working. I mean if it ain't broke, don't fix it, right?[/quote]

I don't either. I wanted him when we got Mike and was happy that he brought Kyle with him. I called him the toy in the Happy Meal and I don't want to lost that toy...

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[url=http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8811626/bill-obrien-remaining-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach]Bill O'Brien remaining as Penn State Nittany Lions coach - ESPN[/url]

[quote]I'm not a one-and-done guy. I made a commitment to these players at Penn State and that's what I am going to do. I'm not gonna cut and run after one year, that's for sure. [/quote]


Why do coaches think we are idiots? If he wasn't a "one and done" guy, why in the **** was he interviewing to begin with. He would have politely told them I'm not interested at this time. Of course he's a one and done guy if the money and situation is right. I hate lying douche bags like this.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;983560][url=http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8811626/bill-obrien-remaining-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach]Bill O'Brien remaining as Penn State Nittany Lions coach - ESPN[/url]




Why do coaches think we are idiots? If he wasn't a "one and done" guy, why in the **** was he interviewing to begin with. He would have politely told them I'm not interested at this time. Of course he's a one and done guy if the money and situation is right. I hate lying douche bags like this.[/QUOTE]

I think I'm missing something on this guy anyway. I know he did well at Penn State under difficult circumstances, however was he considered a prospect prior at all or is his consideration just based on this last season?

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Scott Pioli is out at the Chiefs.

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[quote=12thMan;983618]Scott Pioli is out at the Chiefs.[/quote]

good move by Chiefs. It was time

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[quote=NC_Skins;983560][url=http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8811626/bill-obrien-remaining-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach]Bill O'Brien remaining as Penn State Nittany Lions coach - ESPN[/url]




Why do coaches think we are idiots? If he wasn't a "one and done" guy, why in the **** was he interviewing to begin with. He would have politely told them I'm not interested at this time. Of course he's a one and done guy if the money and situation is right. I hate lying douche bags like this.[/quote]

Thats a pretty harsh statement to a guy that told 4 NFL teams that he wasnt even interested in talking about the HC position. You are taking a reporters words on "interviewing with the Browns" and applying what you deem to be a real interview. Even if the Browns and him talked for 5 minutes. Thats enough for the media to refer to that as an interview.

You also dont know if he told the Browns that he wasnt interested, and the new owner just asked to talk to him anyways. Afterwords, if he still had no interest, no big deal. A lot, and I mean a lot of people will go ahead and have that talk. But if all it takes is money and situation, hes talking to all 5 NFL teams that want to talk, not just one.

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No surprise, but its "official" now from ESPN that Reid is offically the Chiefs new HC

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[quote=CultBrennan59;983644]No surprise, but its "official" now from ESPN that Reid is offically the Chiefs new HC[/quote]

Wow that was fast!

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[quote=Skinzman;983623]Thats a pretty harsh statement to a guy that told 4 NFL teams that he wasnt even interested in talking about the HC position. You are taking a reporters words on "interviewing with the Browns" and applying what you deem to be a real interview. Even if the Browns and him talked for 5 minutes. Thats enough for the media to refer to that as an interview.

You also dont know if he told the Browns that he wasnt interested, and the new owner just asked to talk to him anyways. Afterwords, if he still had no interest, no big deal. A lot, and I mean a lot of people will go ahead and have that talk. But if all it takes is money and situation, hes talking to all 5 NFL teams that want to talk, not just one.[/quote]


Look, there are ways to approach it without lying your ass off. Take Chip Kelly for instance and listen to what he said.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8812529/chip-kelly-set-meet-cleveland-browns-buffalo-bills-philadelphia-eagles]Chip Kelly set to meet with Cleveland Browns, Buffalo Bills and Philadelphia Eagles - ESPN[/url]

[quote]"It's more a fact-finding mission, finding out if it fits or doesn't fit," Kelly said after the Ducks beat No. 7 Kansas State 35-17. "I've been in one interview in my life for the National Football League, and that was a year ago. I don't really have any preconceived notions about it. I think that's what this deal is all about for me. It's not going to affect us in terms of we're not on the road (recruiting). I'll get an opportunity if people do call, see where they are.

"I want to get it wrapped up quickly and figure out where I'm going to be."[/quote]


Fact is, if you are listening or interviewing with a NFL team, it means you are interested. No need for the bullcrap lying about how you have no intentions of deserting them after one year, but still go on interviews. Nobody believes him.

As far as your comment about the report not being accurate? Notice he didn't deny interviewing with them either.

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Much ado about nothing

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[quote=SmootSmack;983753]Much ado about nothing[/quote]

True, but it's insulting when assholes like that try to blow smoke up our ass as if he's some sort of man with morals and integrity who wouldn't ditch the school if a dream opportunity came along. Fact is, he will (or would).

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I hope we retain everyone at this point - front office and coaching staff. I'm even inclined to keep haz just to see what he can do with a healthy front seven and a revamped secondary

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[quote=NC_Skins;983752]Look, there are ways to approach it without lying your ass off. Take Chip Kelly for instance and listen to what he said.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8812529/chip-kelly-set-meet-cleveland-browns-buffalo-bills-philadelphia-eagles]Chip Kelly set to meet with Cleveland Browns, Buffalo Bills and Philadelphia Eagles - ESPN[/url]

Fact is, if you are listening or interviewing with a NFL team, it means you are interested. No need for the bullcrap lying about how you have no intentions of deserting them after one year, but still go on interviews. Nobody believes him.

As far as your comment about the report not being accurate? Notice he didn't deny interviewing with them either.[/quote]

No offense dude, but this is a pretty naive way of thinking. Coaches are like politicians, they are not going to tell the truth, they do what some folks call coach speak. If you expect that, you are living in fantasy land. In the real non-football world, some people may have no intentions of leaving a job and interview just to see how they would fare or if they are still marketable.

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[quote=NC_Skins;983754]True, but it's insulting when assholes like that try to blow smoke up our ass as if he's some sort of man with morals and integrity who wouldn't ditch the school if a dream opportunity came along. Fact is, he will (or would).[/quote]

First of all, what makes him an asshole? Secondly, he doesn't give a flying **** about you nor should he. So why do you think he's lying to you?

Seriously man, I don't know why you get so worked up over it

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[quote=SmootSmack;983760]First of all, what makes him an asshole? Secondly, he doesn't give a flying **** about you nor should he. So why do you think he's lying to you?

Seriously man, I don't know why you get so worked up over it[/quote]

I'm not worked up over it, just can't stand bullshit artists. Probably why I have such disdain for politicians.


Also, I never said he was lying to me directly. He is though lying to the public, his employer, his team, the fans, and future recruits.


What makes him a asshole? The fact he's lying his ass off instead of simply saying ...."Hey, I met with them to hear them out, but I'm not interested". No need to start blowing smoke up people's ass about how righteous you are and how you would never ditch a program after one year. Spare me.

I guess asking for honesty, outside of game matters, is a bit much these days. Monkey see, monkey do.