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[quote=skinsfan69;1032793]I think what pissed me off the most is here we are down 14 or 15 points well in the 4th q....and we're huddling. Why? How many damn times have we seen this under Shanahan? Here we have a coach who is almost the highest paid in the league and he can't run no huddle? He can't manage the clock? He's not calling the plays so what is he doing? WTF is that all about? I hate to blow it up, I think Mike gets one more year but he needs to fire his son.[/quote]


Just goes to show how unaware this coaching staff really are. No urgency. Not one draw play or screen to offset the rush. They like to call a quick pass across the field but for no gain to the WRs as a screen that almost always gets close to being picked off for a pick 6.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1032945][B]Sandtrapjack, nowhere to be found after the Redskins two wins over the Cowboys last year. Yet here he is today[/B].

Say what you will about Giantone, but he shows up win or lose[/quote]
......purely coincidental..

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[quote=SmootSmack;1032945]Sandtrapjack, nowhere to be found after the Redskins two wins over the Cowboys last year. Yet here he is today.

Say what you will about Giantone, but he shows up win or lose[/quote]

Much like Richard Sherman..

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Notice how our receivers find it hard to get separation from the DBs, The only guy with a sweet move to get open is Jordan Reed. He has got a great move to get open. The rookie needs to teach the veteran receivers how to get open. Even if he does RG3 is a 50 50 chance to not throw it where it needs to be thrown. Erratic is being kind so I'll use that word to describe his throwing. RG3 needs to tighten up a bit as well. Holds on to the ball too long and forces throws that are not there.

Not all of this is the OL fault but some of it is .Much more of this from the Redskins and I'll be calling for Cousins to come in and play. These guys struggle and the only pick they use on an OL is a probable 3rd round bust.

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Reed looks like a huge steal of the draft

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1032967]Reed looks like a huge steal of the draft[/quote]

Seriously. Where would we be with just Davis Paulsen and Paul? Paulsen is battling an injury, Paul seems to be purely a special teams guy and Davis might as well be inactive every game.

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IDK but Reed reminds me of a Finley (GB) or even a poor mans A. Gates so far and thats a great sign.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1032938]Is that a 'moral victory'?

Not sure thats enough to hang my hat on. Must remember that Dallas played with a lead from the opening possession. Play calling changes when playing with the lead. He was only sacked once for 5 yards and stayed relatively upright for 4 quarters.

Romo didn't have 200 yards, because he didn't need it.[/quote]

No ....no such thing as a moral victory. But coming from where our defense was week one to now, I'm seeing improvement.

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1032968]Seriously. Where would we be with just Davis Paulsen and Paul? Paulsen is battling an injury, Paul seems to be purely a special teams guy and Davis might as well be inactive every game.[/QUOTE]

We would probably be like 1-4, wait a minute...
:(

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1032938]Is that a 'moral victory'?

Not sure thats enough to hang my hat on. Must remember that Dallas played with a lead from the opening possession. Play calling changes when playing with the lead. He was only sacked once for 5 yards and stayed relatively upright for 4 quarters.

Romo didn't have 200 yards, because he didn't need it.[/quote]

So your saying that your coach is so f*&king stupid that a 7 point lead changes your game plan in the first 5 min of a game? I think you have just posted the stupidest post in internet history.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1032945]Sandtrapjack, nowhere to be found after the Redskins two wins over the Cowboys last year. Yet here he is today.

Say what you will about Giantone, but he shows up win or lose[/quote]He probably just had to study for finals, or he had to get an early jump on this taxes, and according to Scott it's time to feed your lawn, and maybe his dog ate his computer password, and he's had mono so he's been really tired and stuff, or he was growing out his finger nails for Guinness so he couldn't type.

Or he's just a turd.

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The problem is simple, and that is that us fans, like a woman suffering from battered wife syndrome, keeps taking the abuse, expecting our loyalty to pay off somewhere down the road. We keep giving these mediocre slobs more and more of our hard earned $$$$$$$ for nothing. This team has been mediocre from 1993 on, with a handful of visits to the playoffs, but we usually were only the best out of a bunch of mediocre teams that make up the NFC East that particular season. The best team we have fielded from 1993-2013 was Norv's next to last season in 1999 when we lost to the Buccaneers in that 13-7 debacle, while we set a ton of seasonal offense records. Post Marty, Snyder has totally relied on hype to keep the seats filled. The hype was fueled with the coaching carousel and some shiny new sexy FA acquisitions and an occasional draft stud(Bailey, Smoot, JC, and of course now RGIII). We lost Champ and Smoot. JC was overhyped from the get go, and RG III was over the top overhyped. We are yet facing another coaching change where most of us idiots will probably go gaga over the new guy, even when our roster is woefully insufficient to win a SB. We will yet again have visions of Lombardis dancing in our heads, etc, etc, ad naseum. Sorry if I am being overly cynical, but this vicious cycle has been going on since Norv got dumped just past the midway point during the 2000 season. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice well..... you get the picture. Three weeks ago I got blasted for a series of "Dumb" posts about me railing on how the hip hop culture has permeated the NFL, but it really is corporate culture in reality. There is absolutely no need for some of these franchises to win the SB or even make the playoffs. Snyder is going to make his $$$$$$$$ regardless, the players are going to make their $$$$$$$ regardless if they even make the playoffs as well. These guys in the FO and on the field really have no incentive to win, as long as they have the butts in the seats and enough chumps are buying jerseys, caps, etc. RG III was set for life even before he took snap 1 for the Skins with all of those endorsements he had that summer. And think of it, if we indeed do get a new HC he might decide to give Cousins the nod and all that $ that went to RG III was a big waste. Moral of the story for us abused fans is "don't believe the hype!"

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[quote=GusFrerotte;1032991]The problem is simple, and that is that us fans, like a woman suffering from battered wife syndrome, keeps taking the abuse, expecting our loyalty to pay off somewhere down the road. We keep giving these mediocre slobs more and more of our hard earned $$$$$$$ for nothing. This team has been mediocre from 1993 on, with a handful of visits to the playoffs, but we usually were only the best out of a bunch of mediocre teams that make up the NFC East that particular season. The best team we have fielded from 1993-2013 was Norv's next to last season in 1999 when we lost to the Buccaneers in that 13-7 debacle, while we set a ton of seasonal offense records. Post Marty, Snyder has totally relied on hype to keep the seats filled. The hype was fueled with the coaching carousel and some shiny new sexy FA acquisitions and an occasional draft stud(Bailey, Smoot, JC, and of course now RGIII). We lost Champ and Smoot. JC was overhyped from the get go, and RG III was over the top overhyped. We are yet facing another coaching change where most of us idiots will probably go gaga over the new guy, even when our roster is woefully insufficient to win a SB. We will yet again have visions of Lombardis dancing in our heads, etc, etc, ad naseum. Sorry if I am being overly cynical, but this vicious cycle has been going on since Norv got dumped just past the midway point during the 2000 season. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice well..... you get the picture. Three weeks ago I got blasted for a series of "Dumb" posts about me railing on how the hip hop culture has permeated the NFL, but it really is corporate culture in reality. There is absolutely no need for some of these franchises to win the SB or even make the playoffs. Snyder is going to make his $$$$$$$$ regardless, the players are going to make their $$$$$$$ regardless if they even make the playoffs as well. These guys in the FO and on the field really have no incentive to win, as long as they have the butts in the seats and enough chumps are buying jerseys, caps, etc. RG III was set for life even before he took snap 1 for the Skins with all of those endorsements he had that summer. And think of it, if we indeed do get a new HC he might decide to give Cousins the nod and all that $ that went to RG III was a big waste. Moral of the story for us abused fans is "don't believe the hype!"[/quote]

Wow..I agree with this

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Good post Gus And it basically sums up my life as a diehard skins fan. Hell maybe a change of the name would be a good fresh start

Unlike some of u lucky bastards I never got to ser us win in 91 because I was freaking 5 years old. Now I'm.26 and my team has been a shit storm laughing stock ever since then . We finally get our franchise QB and we still.****ing blow

I'm confident that RGIII isn't your average player and this test of his resolve will see he come out the other side a better player.

People need to see this as a business and calm the butt-hurt rhetoric down.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1032805]It just seems like the team isn't really playing as hard for MS anymore, Idk maybe they have lost the team meaning the staff. It sure looks like it[/quote]The weirdest thing about this team that it is not the principal offensive or defensive players that have an effort issue. Guys like Hall, Wilson, Riley, Bowen, etc are going all out on every single play.

The guys who are leaving something on the field are the guys who are, in theory, the ones without great job security. The special teams lifers.

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[quote=12thMan;1032861]D.Hall had another really good performance. He's playing solid ball this year.[/quote]Haven't been able to say this about him since 2008, but Hall is outplaying his contract.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;1032753]12 games left and everyone deep down knows there ain't no 7 game run coming this year. But we can get through this together. Sorry Shannys but I'm all out of love.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRakSkwBryY]I'M ALL OUT OF LOVE - AIR SUPPLY - YouTube[/url][/quote]

CrustyRedskin: "I wish I could carry your smile in my heart...for times when my life feels so low."

Mike Shanahan: "Ooooooookay."

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When i sit back and look at the offense...we are really not that far off. I think we need to add another deep threat/YAC at WR in slot and re evaluate our interior o-line. Add a better RT. I dont think the Offense is hopeless.

Defense needs a little more overall work. Replace Fletch, add safety help(never ending right?) and add a CB.

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[quote=SirLK26;1033007]CrustyRedskin: "I wish I could carry your smile in my heart...for times when my life feels so low."

Mike Shanahan: "Ooooooookay."[/quote]

Lol I've found my role here on the WP, life coach, counselor, and alcohol advisor. All free of charge.

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[quote=punch it in;1032975]We would probably be like 1-4, wait a minute...
:([/quote]

Well obviously Reed isn't a gamechanger and our problems are way, way bigger than the TE role, but Reed has the potential to be which is more than we can say from our other tight ends. Or any receivers really, minus Garcon and Hank (sometimes)

Although I think Paulsen could be too. If he was given more opportunities. ...And he held onto the ball.

[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;1032991]The problem is simple, and that is that us fans, like a woman suffering from battered wife syndrome, keeps taking the abuse, expecting our loyalty to pay off somewhere down the road. We keep giving these mediocre slobs more and more of our hard earned $$$$$$$ for nothing. This team has been mediocre from 1993 on, with a handful of visits to the playoffs, but we usually were only the best out of a bunch of mediocre teams that make up the NFC East that particular season. The best team we have fielded from 1993-2013 was Norv's next to last season in 1999 when we lost to the Buccaneers in that 13-7 debacle, while we set a ton of seasonal offense records. Post Marty, Snyder has totally relied on hype to keep the seats filled. The hype was fueled with the coaching carousel and some shiny new sexy FA acquisitions and an occasional draft stud(Bailey, Smoot, JC, and of course now RGIII). We lost Champ and Smoot. JC was overhyped from the get go, and RG III was over the top overhyped. We are yet facing another coaching change where most of us idiots will probably go gaga over the new guy, even when our roster is woefully insufficient to win a SB. We will yet again have visions of Lombardis dancing in our heads, etc, etc, ad naseum. Sorry if I am being overly cynical, but this vicious cycle has been going on since Norv got dumped just past the midway point during the 2000 season. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice well..... you get the picture. Three weeks ago I got blasted for a series of "Dumb" posts about me railing on how the hip hop culture has permeated the NFL, but it really is corporate culture in reality. There is absolutely no need for some of these franchises to win the SB or even make the playoffs. Snyder is going to make his $$$$$$$$ regardless, the players are going to make their $$$$$$$ regardless if they even make the playoffs as well. These guys in the FO and on the field really have no incentive to win, as long as they have the butts in the seats and enough chumps are buying jerseys, caps, etc. RG III was set for life even before he took snap 1 for the Skins with all of those endorsements he had that summer. And think of it, if we indeed do get a new HC he might decide to give Cousins the nod and all that $ that went to RG III was a big waste. Moral of the story for us abused fans is "don't believe the hype!"[/QUOTE]

Maybe true but how is it specific to the Redskins?

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1033014]Well obviously Reed isn't a gamechanger and our problems are way, way bigger than the TE role, but Reed has the potential to be which is more than we can say from our other tight ends. Or any receivers really, minus Garcon and Hank (sometimes)

Although I think Paulsen could be too. If he was given more opportunities. ...And he held onto the ball.[/QUOTE]

I was just being funny. I absolutely think Reed is a stud in the making, and you are rite - the tight end position is definitely not a question mark anymore.

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[quote=punch it in;1033021]Maybe true but how is it specific to the Redskins?[/quote]

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[quote=GusFrerotte;1032991]The problem is simple, and that is that us fans, like a woman suffering from battered wife syndrome, keeps taking the abuse, expecting our loyalty to pay off somewhere down the road. We keep giving these mediocre slobs more and more of our hard earned $$$$$$$ for nothing. This team has been mediocre from 1993 on, with a handful of visits to the playoffs, but we usually were only the best out of a bunch of mediocre teams that make up the NFC East that particular season. The best team we have fielded from 1993-2013 was Norv's next to last season in 1999 when we lost to the Buccaneers in that 13-7 debacle, while we set a ton of seasonal offense records. Post Marty, Snyder has totally relied on hype to keep the seats filled. The hype was fueled with the coaching carousel and some shiny new sexy FA acquisitions and an occasional draft stud(Bailey, Smoot, JC, and of course now RGIII). We lost Champ and Smoot. JC was overhyped from the get go, and RG III was over the top overhyped. We are yet facing another coaching change where most of us idiots will probably go gaga over the new guy, even when our roster is woefully insufficient to win a SB. We will yet again have visions of Lombardis dancing in our heads, etc, etc, ad naseum. Sorry if I am being overly cynical, but this vicious cycle has been going on since Norv got dumped just past the midway point during the 2000 season. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice well..... you get the picture. Three weeks ago I got blasted for a series of "Dumb" posts about me railing on how the hip hop culture has permeated the NFL, but it really is corporate culture in reality. There is absolutely no need for some of these franchises to win the SB or even make the playoffs. Snyder is going to make his $$$$$$$$ regardless, the players are going to make their $$$$$$$ regardless if they even make the playoffs as well. These guys in the FO and on the field really have no incentive to win, as long as they have the butts in the seats and enough chumps are buying jerseys, caps, etc. RG III was set for life even before he took snap 1 for the Skins with all of those endorsements he had that summer. And think of it, if we indeed do get a new HC he might decide to give Cousins the nod and all that $ that went to RG III was a big waste. Moral of the story for us abused fans is "don't believe the hype!"[/quote]



Wow. Ummmm what? Snyder just wants to make money, he doesn't care about winning. Fans are dumb for supporting the team and rg3 set before he threw his first pass....so I guess that means he doesn't care? And cousins might start so rg3 sux because of a new regime? Ok

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I still wish we had a quick scat wr like denver, NE, and now dallas has. Moss is solid but he doesnt have the quick seperation ability that some of those guys have.

Mayne we should of kept Williams..

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[quote=Chico23231;1033052]Wow. Ummmm what? Snyder just wants to make money, he doesn't care about winning. Fans are dumb for supporting the team and rg3 set before he threw his first pass....so I guess that means he doesn't care? And cousins might start so rg3 sux because of a new regime? Ok[/quote]

Dude it's the hip hop culture.

Duh.

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[quote=Bucket;1033053]I still wish we had a quick scat wr like denver, NE, and now dallas has. Moss is solid but he doesnt have the quick seperation ability that some of those guys have.

Mayne we should of kept Williams..[/quote]

He's still on our practice squad.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;1032991]The problem is simple, and that is that us fans, like a woman suffering from battered wife syndrome, keeps taking the abuse, expecting our loyalty to pay off somewhere down the road. We keep giving these mediocre slobs more and more of our hard earned $$$$$$$ for nothing. This team has been mediocre from 1993 on, with a handful of visits to the playoffs, but we usually were only the best out of a bunch of mediocre teams that make up the NFC East that particular season. The best team we have fielded from 1993-2013 was Norv's next to last season in 1999 when we lost to the Buccaneers in that 13-7 debacle, while we set a ton of seasonal offense records. Post Marty, Snyder has totally relied on hype to keep the seats filled. The hype was fueled with the coaching carousel and some shiny new sexy FA acquisitions and an occasional draft stud(Bailey, Smoot, JC, and of course now RGIII). We lost Champ and Smoot. JC was overhyped from the get go, and RG III was over the top overhyped. We are yet facing another coaching change where most of us idiots will probably go gaga over the new guy, even when our roster is woefully insufficient to win a SB. We will yet again have visions of Lombardis dancing in our heads, etc, etc, ad naseum. Sorry if I am being overly cynical, but this vicious cycle has been going on since Norv got dumped just past the midway point during the 2000 season. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice well..... you get the picture. Three weeks ago I got blasted for a series of "Dumb" posts about me railing on how the hip hop culture has permeated the NFL, but it really is corporate culture in reality. There is absolutely no need for some of these franchises to win the SB or even make the playoffs. Snyder is going to make his $$$$$$$$ regardless, the players are going to make their $$$$$$$ regardless if they even make the playoffs as well. These guys in the FO and on the field really have no incentive to win, as long as they have the butts in the seats and enough chumps are buying jerseys, caps, etc. RG III was set for life even before he took snap 1 for the Skins with all of those endorsements he had that summer. And think of it, if we indeed do get a new HC he might decide to give Cousins the nod and all that $ that went to RG III was a big waste. Moral of the story for us abused fans is "don't believe the hype!"[/quote]

And the minute Danny puts the gas in Redskin One 2 seconds after free agency starts, you and the rest of the fans will be back on board. He gets you every time. ...lol.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1033079]And the minute Danny puts the gas in Redskin One 2 seconds after free agency starts, you and the rest of the fans will be back on board. He gets you every time. ...lol.[/quote]

So true, he's already gotten all the people trashing Gus's remark..

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1033082]So true, he's already gotten all the people trashing Gus's remark..[/quote]

:doh:

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[quote=Chico23231;1033085]:doh:[/quote]

Unreal isn't it?

Crazy sells pretty well when we lose I guess.

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[quote=Mattyk;1033111]Unreal isn't it?

Crazy sells pretty well when we lose I guess.[/quote]

Or losing brings out the hard truth.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1033116]Or losing brings out the hard truth.[/quote]

I'll go with crazy.

It's easy to see the difference.

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[quote=Mattyk;1033111]Unreal isn't it?

Crazy sells pretty well when we lose I guess.[/quote]

Maybe he's been drinking. Hey, I call RG3 Ryan Leaf when I'm drunk.

Anything's possible! :D

We need to make a drunk post-game thread where people can go and spout their crazy. Leave the logical ideas in the main post-game thread.

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[quote=Mattyk;1033117]I'll go with crazy.

It's easy to see the difference.[/quote]

Thats right, the Mods are right; always right! :laughing-

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1033127]Thats right, the Mods are right; always right! :laughing-[/quote]

No not right, just sane more often than not.

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[quote=Bucket;1032653]I wish we could go back a decade and find our special teams again. Use to be one of the solid points on the team. Now it might be the worse aspect of our team.
[/quote]

Not to sound like a complete pompous ass but there are many times when i'm watching a skins game and WISHING my grandfather was still coaching their special teams. His creativity and boldness on special teams has never been recovered since he left and it's still getting worse. This special teams unit is embarrassing right now and they need a Huge wake up call (Hopefully watching Dwayne Harris run all over them was that call.)

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[quote=sevier2;1033162]Not to sound like a complete pompous ass but there are many times when i'm watching a skins game and[B][I][SIZE="3"] WISHING my grandfather [/SIZE][/I][/B]was still coaching their special teams. His creativity and boldness on special teams has never been recovered since he left and it's still getting worse. This special teams unit is embarrassing right now and they need a Huge wake up call (Hopefully watching Dwayne Harris run all over them was that call.)[/quote]

I do too! Wish Pettibon was still coaching the defense also