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Let's prove them wrong:

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lol look at manning and griffins numbers. CRAZY

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[quote=Monkeydad;1035255]Rest day. Welker and Decker also took the day off.

Non-story...they're all going to be fine on Sunday.[/quote]

I knew that and that's why I also said it would force him to stay in the pocket. Jokingly of course

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[quote=SmootSmack;1035189]Amazingly enough, two losses in a row is not uncommon for Manning[/quote]

Yeah, but before the loss to Indianapolis, Denver had won 17 straight regular season games. Also, I don't think Peyton has ever led an offense as good as this one. And Denver's defense will probably be much improved, with Von Miller returning and Champ Bailey shaking the rust off against the Colts.

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Bailey got hurt in that game and I doubt he plays

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1035290]Bailey got hurt in that game and I doubt he plays[/quote]

Well, that's nice to hear. Now we just need Polumbus to shut Miller down, and someone to knock Manning out, and we're golden.

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1035286]lol look at manning and griffins numbers. CRAZY[/QUOTE]

Manning even had more rushing touchdowns. 1-0. Lol

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[quote=SirLK26;1035289]Yeah, but before the loss to Indianapolis, Denver had won 17 straight regular season games. Also, [B]I don't think Peyton has ever led an offense as good as this one. [/B]And Denver's defense will probably be much improved, with Von Miller returning and Champ Bailey shaking the rust off against the Colts.[/quote]

His mid-2000's offense with Marvin Harrison, young Reggie Wayne, and Edge James was pretty doggone sick.

[QUOTE=SirLK26;1035289]Yeah, but before the loss to Indianapolis, Denver had won 17 straight regular season games. Also, I don't think Peyton has ever led an offense as good as this one. And Denver's defense will probably be much improved, with Von Miller returning and Champ Bailey shaking the rust off against the Colts.[/QUOTE]
I would argue that Marvin Harrison/ Wayne / Edgerin James/ dallas clark / jeff saturday / etc rosters were better.

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[quote=Lotus;1035293]His mid-2000's offense with Marvin Harrison, young Reggie Wayne, and Edge James was pretty doggone sick.[/quote]

Especially in 2004. And perhaps that offense could equal this one. One thing's for certain, though: Edgerrin James and Marvin Harrison were better than any weapons Manning's got now. The only thing is, he has [I]more[/I] weapons at his disposal now.

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[quote=punch it in;1035296]I would argue that Marvin Harrison/ Wayne / Edgerin James/ dallas clark / jeff saturday / etc rosters were better.[/quote]

Through the first several games of this season, I would have argued vehemently that you were wrong. Lately, however, the Broncos' offense hasn't looked as good as it did in the first few games, so you might be right.

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Local radio here in Denver area seems to think Peyton sitting out for his "ankle injury" is only part of the story, speculating that the amount of throws he is making this year taking its toll on his residual neck/arm/nerve conditions.

I am not sure if anyone posted this already, but Sally Jenkins wrote a pretty good article about his surgery/rehab.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/peyton-manning-on-his-neck-surgeries-rehab--and-how-he-almost-didnt-make-it-back/2013/10/21/8e3b5ca6-3a55-11e3-b7ba-503fb5822c3e_story.html]Peyton Manning on his neck surgeries rehab — and how he almost didn’t make it back - The Washington Post[/url]

I'm not sure I buy that there is more to him sitting out than just the ankle injury, but it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.

Hey what better week to get him rest than the week leading up to the out of conference matchup with the lowly Redskins.

I hope we surprise them. Would love some bragging rights around here. They might as well have already won the superbowl the way these Bronco fans are talking (much like last year before they lost to the Ravens). Figured they would have learned their lesson...

Skins 44
Broncos 38

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Before you pick the Skins to win this game, pretend that you're betting your mortgage money on it. You might find that very hard to do. I know I would.

As much as I'd love the Skins to win, it would come as a great and pleasant surprise to me if they beat the Broncos. That's because I think the Skins would need to play a near perfect game to just eke out a win in Denver.

Nevertheless, hope springs eternal! If the Skins should win this game, I think it would be such a big boost to team confidence that it could turn around their entire season.

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if we win the east we have to win sunday

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Manning generally hasn't taken vet days off, in fact he usually is a rep hog.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1035322]Before you pick the Skins to win this game, pretend that you're betting your mortgage money on it. You might find that very hard to do. I know I would.

As much as I'd love the Skins to win, it would come as a great and pleasant surprise to me if they beat the Broncos. That's because I think the Skins would need to play a near perfect game to just eke out a win in Denver.

Nevertheless, hope springs eternal! If the Skins should win this game, I think it would be such a big boost to team confidence that it could turn around their entire season.[/quote]

I would pick like I was betting the mortgage on it IF I was betting the mortgage on it, but I am not so I will stick my neck out and go with the Skins to keep it close, and win it at the end. That said, it may come down to special teams, and that would not be good for us.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1035309]Local radio here in Denver area seems to think Peyton sitting out for his "ankle injury" is only part of the story, speculating that the amount of throws he is making this year taking its toll on his residual neck/arm/nerve conditions.[/quote]

Could be, his throws just didn't seem right vs the Colts. He's never thrown the prettiest ball or had the biggest arm, but he definitely seemed a little off.

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well I hope peyton throws those passes this week to our DBS

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A question to anyone: What are your thoughts on who our starting safeties will be?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1035332]I would pick like I was betting the mortgage on it IF I was betting the mortgage on it, but I am not so I will stick my neck out and go with the Skins to keep it close, and win it at the end. That said, [B]it may come down to special teams, and that would not be good for us[/B].[/quote]

The coaches need to look at this game and realize that we cannot (not just hope that we won't) give up field position and (heaven forbid) points on ST's.

Trindon Holliday may be the best return man in the NFL right now. The Skins coaches should accept the fact that, against our kick coverage, he represents a clear and present danger. Accordingly, they should take extraordinary measures to avoid another ST disaster this week.

That's why I said before that the Skins should punt the ball out of bounds, even if the punts are short.

Also, it might be a good idea to activate Potter to ensure that all kickoffs go through the end zone and are not returned. Plus, we might need him to kick a 60 yard FG (in the thin air of Denver) in this one.

If you think I'm over-reacting, remember this:

- We barely beat Oakland after giving up a TD on a blocked punt.
- We lost to Dallas in large part because we gave up two long returns that led to Dallas TD's.
- Just last week, we let Chicago back in the game by giving up a TD on a return.
- Our return game has been pathetic all season, contributing to poor field position.

For our coaches to say that our ST's have improved and then hope for the best is not a proper plan. They might as well just keep their fingers crossed and pray.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1035285]Let's prove them wrong:

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Who the hell is RG II?

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[quote=SirLK26;1035352]A question to anyone: What are your thoughts on who our starting safeties will be?[/quote]

I'm hoping they will be Reed Doughty and Josh Wilson.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1035332]I would pick like I was betting the mortgage on it IF I was betting the mortgage on it, but I am not so I will stick my neck out and go with the Skins to keep it close, and win it at the end. That said, it may come down to special teams, and that would not be good for us.[/quote]Wouldn't bet a mortgage on it, but WAS +13 has me on this game.

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[quote=SirLK26;1035352]A question to anyone: What are your thoughts on who our starting safeties will be?[/quote]

My guess is Doughty and Gumbs, with Pugh coming in if Gumbs struggles.

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[quote=Lotus;1035361]My guess is Doughty and Gumbs, with Pugh coming in if Gumbs struggles.[/quote]

Gumbs over Rambo?

Have we really given up on Rambo already?



I saw throw Wilson back there. Definitely not Biggers.

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[quote=SirLK26;1035352]A question to anyone: What are your thoughts on who our starting safeties will be?[/quote]


Just a guess:

Rambo and Doughty

If Doughty can't go, then Rambo and Gumbs

I think you run into trouble sliding a corner over to safety. Seems like they should be interchangable, after all they are all DBs...but they have completely different tendencies and assignments which could lead to even more blown coverages than we have already seen...

[QUOTE=Monkeydad;1035365]Gumbs over Rambo?

Have we really given up on Rambo already?



I saw throw Wilson back there. Definitely not Biggers.[/QUOTE]

I dont know about given up as much as wanting to sideline until he is ready.

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Honestly, any combination we put back there is going to scare me if Peyton is healthy and ballin.

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[quote=SirLK26;1035352]A question to anyone: What are your thoughts on who our starting safeties will be?[/quote]

Whoever is back there is in for a long ass day. lol.

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^ LOL Yes they r

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Josh Wilson & Reed Doughty. Or Hall and Doughty. Either way I think Amerson, Hall and Wilson are on the field first defensive snap

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1035372]Honestly, any combination we put back there is going to scare me if Peyton is healthy and ballin.[/quote]

I think the key is not who we have back there, but if our guys win up front and put constant pressure on his ass.

Lets be honest, when Peyton is ballin with the arm, it could be a fleet of pro bowlers in the secondary and he is still making reads, finding one on one, and putting the ball only where his receiver can get it.

Believe it or not, there are some positives going into this game 1) Peyton was off and uncomfortable, looks like he's coming down a lil bit from his hot start and 2) Peyton ankle isnt a 100% and speculation by some about pain and discomfort in other spots.

We need to come out and punch Lego Neck right in the nose with a good pass rush first drive and a good opening drive by our offense.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1035365][B]Gumbs over Rambo?
[/B]
Have we really given up on Rambo already?



I saw throw Wilson back there. Definitely not Biggers.[/quote]

Yes. For weeks now Gumbs has been active but Rambo has not. This does not mean that we've given up on Rambo, it just means that he does not seem to be a part of the current plan.

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Rambo doesn't play Teams and Gumbs does. Comes down to that.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1035375]Josh Wilson & Reed Doughty. Or Hall and Doughty. Either way I think Amerson, Hall and Wilson are on the field first defensive snap[/quote]

Can't argue with that, but I hope they go with Rambo if Doughty can't play.

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[quote=FRPLG;1035384]Rambo doesn't play Teams and Gumbs does. Comes down to that.[/quote]

This.

And at this point Rambo has proven to be a big liability. Can't trust him yet.

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[quote=Mattyk;1035394]This.

And at this point Rambo has proven to be a big liability. Can't trust him yet.[/quote]

I suppose that is true to some extent, but you could apply that liability tag all accross the secondary with the exception of maybe D Hall and Amerson (and I'll even throw in Doughty) at this point. Merriweather has proven to be a liability with his bonehead personnel foul calls. Wilson is a liability in coverage. The majority of the defense has been a liability with regard to tackling. Fact is Rambo has done more in less games and in my opinion shown more promise than Gumbs, Murphy and Biggers. Sure he made some mistakes and missed some tackles, but no one on that defense hasn't...

Next man up should be Rambo...

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I haven't seen anything from Rambo that says he deserves to be on the field.

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I like Rambo, and hope he earns a spot going forward. That said, I would rather not see him as the last line of defense against Moreno.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1035401]I like Rambo, and hope he earns a spot going forward. That said, I would rather not see him as the last line of defense against Moreno.[/quote]

I agree. I'd rather not have Rambo try to regain his spot in the lineup against a premier qb like Peyton. Let him go up against a couple softies to regain his confidence.