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I know this is an impossibility, but I believe the best thing Snyder could do for the longterm health of this organization is to keep Shanahan until his contract ends. The choice to actually patch-up a relationship rather than terminate it would certainly change the attitude about the organization that outsiders have. It would enable the Skins to attract better coaching options. It would promote a sense of elasticity and autonomy within the organization. Organizations are like relationships: strong ones don't avoid conflict, they handle it. They don't allow conflict to destroy relationships, they use conflict management strategies to strengthen relationships.

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[quote=Chico23231;1047053]Kevin Sumlin is the wild card. I don't think he would be a bad choice.[/quote]

I like him for a wild card as well.

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[quote=skinsguy;1047957]Smoot, is Ribary and or Tobin actually being actively pursued by the Redskins? Because if so, I would rather go with one of them (probably Ribary) than to promote Morocco. Brown just seems like wild card to me, and we can see how well the Bengals and Seahawks are doing.[/quote]

Ribary, not that I know of.

Tobin. Well I know they have strong interest in Jay Gruden. And Gruden is very close to Tobin, so...

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[quote=SmootSmack;1047977]Ribary, not that I know of.

Tobin. Well I know they have strong interest in Jay Gruden. And Gruden is very close to Tobin, so...[/quote]

So your thoughts are if Jay comes here as a head coach, then it's a strong possibility Tobin follows? In that case, I'd probably be just fine with that.

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I want to throw this out there even though I think its crazy but the feeling in Pittsburgh is that Mike Tomlin is gone after the season. What would you feel about him as coach?

I don't see them letting tomlin go , he's a winner and Pitt never changes coaches that fast

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1048074]I don't see them letting tomlin go , he's a winner and Pitt never changes coaches that fast[/quote]

That's what I said as well but that's the word around there. Pittsburgh is tired of him and he is gone. I don't believe it either but if its true I think I would take him in a minute.

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Is there anyone out there around the Pittsburgh area hearing the same thing?

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I retract my early vote for Shanahan.

Now that he's blatantly acting in the best interests of the team to screw with Snyder...forget him.

I had previously held to the idea of seeing what he could do with a full salary cap...well you've burned that bridge, Mike. Please leave.

I'm not sold on Briles. I'm not sold on Chip Kelly's recent streak of success. This division's weakness is the only reason they're sitting on top right now and I do not believe he'll have long-term success...so trying to replicate what Philadelphia is doing is not the right move. The only reason to bring in Briles is to make Griffin's job easier, but I also think that would hold him back from developing into the pro QB he needs to become for a long career.

I've always liked Jon Gruden but I'm not sure I trust him after his recent comments that Cousins should be playing. I still maintain the best thing for Robert right now is reps.

Bill O'Brien is intriguing. I am stuck here in the middle of Paterno country and I really thought Penn State would be really harmed by the NCAA sanctions and reduced scholarships. O'Brien has done an incredible job with the team who was playing at a competitive disadvantage, something Shanahan could not do wit the salary cap penalty. He also has pro experience with Belichick, which is invaluable.

Jay Gruden is an outstanding choice, but I also think we need to bring in a defensive-minded coach like Lovie Smith. I'm fine with Jay as HC if we can bring in a top defensive coordinator. I don't know if Lovie would settle for a DC job with other teams like Houston probably pursuing him for a top job, but landing both Jay Gruden as HC and Lovie Smith as DC would be the best possible scenario to me.

Ken Wisenhunt could be a good choice.

I'd trust Singletary as a DC, but not HC.

Sumlin could be a good choice to help develop Griffin into a pro QB.

Aaron Kromer has had great sucess at building offensive lines, which is one of our greatest needs.



I'll rank my new choices:

Lovie Smith
Jay Gruden
Bill O'Brien
Ken Wisenhunt
Kevin Sumlin
Aaron Kromer
Darrell Bevell

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[quote=chewman;1048103]Is there anyone out there around the Pittsburgh area hearing the same thing?[/quote]

I've heard rumors that he's a candidate for the Texas Longhorns.

I don't think that rumor would start without one about him losing his Pittsburgh job.

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Jeff Tedford would also be a great choice

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[quote=chewman;1048103]Is there anyone out there around the Pittsburgh area hearing the same thing?[/quote]

Wishful thinking by the Baltimore media d-bags

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[quote=SmootSmack;1047913]Morocco is basically the favorite and will probably get it if-as expected-Allen moves to a different role, but I agree that we could probably do better.

Couple of names to think about-Tag Ribary and Duke Tobin[/quote]

SS, after the past events of this very embarressing week including a direct shot yesterday "Dan doesnt care about the other positions", are the odds pretty much Shanny doesnt return? Is it pretty much wrapped up? or is there still a 10-50% chance Shanny returns?

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[quote=Chico23231;1048496]SS, after the past events of this very embarressing week including a direct shot yesterday "Dan doesnt care about the other positions", are the odds pretty much Shanny doesnt return? Is it pretty much wrapped up? or is there still a 10-50% chance Shanny returns?[/quote]

To be fair he later clarified:

[quote]Shanahan also said: “That’s what you do about a quarterback. He’s your franchise. That’s why you ask those questions. You don’t do it about the other positions. Dan could care less about the other positions: ‘Hey, that’s why you coach. That’s why I own.’ I understand that. That’s not a problem. But I do ask it about a quarterback because we’re gonna have a circus atmosphere any time you make a decision like that.”

Shanahan later clarified that remark in a conference call with Atlanta reporters, saying any owner would be concerned about a decision regarding the quarterback and Snyder leaves all football-related decisions solely to him about players at other positions.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/12/11/mike-shanahan-says-daniel-snyder-bruce-allen-on-board-with-benching-of-robert-griffin-iii/]Mike Shanahan says Daniel Snyder, Bruce Allen on board with benching of Robert Griffin III [updated][/url][/quote]

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I would love to have Jay Gruden as our HC. But how interested is he in coaching the Redskins? And also, is he interested in the Texans' job? Because if it comes down to a decision between the Redskins or Texans, I can't see anyone choosing us. Houston is in a prime position for a young head coach.

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He's interested. But if the Titans job opens up, that's probably his top choice

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Not trying to be a dick but what is the appeal of Jay Gruden?

I don't know much about him and Cincinnati isn't doing anything offensively that says genius.
They are 10th on offense with a lot of talent and we are 9th.
He's never had a top 10 offense.
Is he just the next Gruden?

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What about Todd Bowles? Former Redskin, knows and respects our history, well respected coach. I wouldn't mind seeing him at least get an interview.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1048535]What about Todd Bowles? Former Redskin, knows and [B]respects our history[/B], well respected coach. I wouldn't mind seeing him at least get an interview.[/quote]

Our 20 year history of losing? you gotta respect it

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[quote=skinsfan69;1048535]What about Todd Bowles? Former Redskin, knows and respects our history, well respected coach. I wouldn't mind seeing him at least get an interview.[/quote]

I don't understand why people are so attached to former players of the Skins. AKA: Russ Grimm.

What does knowing our history have to do with being a good coach? Shit I know our history.

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[quote=Chico23231;1048536]Our 20 year history of losing? you gotta respect it[/quote]

So true....our good history is so history now that we don't have any good history.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1048535]What about Todd Bowles? Former Redskin, knows and respects our history, well respected coach. I wouldn't mind seeing him at least get an interview.[/quote]

I would love Bowles and said previously he is my pick but I don't think he has enough experience as a coordinator to jump into a HC job.


My pick for the moment would be Lovie Smith or Shaw.

Lovie has a proven track record and winning record.
Shaw has extensive NFL experience and proven college HC experience.

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[quote=mredskins;1048537]I don't understand why people are so attached to former players of the Skins. AKA: Russ Grimm.

What does knowing our history have to do with being a good coach? Shit I know our history.[/quote]

It's because he was a great player in our glory days. most people will assume he will try to build the team exactly how those great teams he was on was built.
The same goes for Todd Bowles who I would like to see back in DC.

With that said, it's just not ex redskins players. No one wants to see Tre Johnson or Tydus Winans as the redskins next coach.

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Mike Shanahan is averaging more than a million dollars per win.


Ouch.

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[quote=Chico23231;1048536]Our 20 year history of losing? you gotta respect it[/quote]

Get it straight. It's not 20 years of losing ... It's 20 years of mind numbing mediocrity.

Have some pride.

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[quote=jamf;1048543]It's because he was a great player in our glory days. most people will assume he will try to build the team exactly how those great teams he was on was built.
The same goes for Todd Bowles who I would like to see back in DC.

With that said, it's just not ex redskins players. No one wants to see Tre Johnson or Tydus Winans as the redskins next coach.[/quote]

Little known fact: Tydus Winans' wife is a princess in the Royal Cambodian Family and his father-in-law (deceased) was a former Commander in Chief of the Cambodian Royal Air Force and Prince.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1048560]Little known fact: Tydus Winans' wife is a princess in the Royal Cambodian Family and his father-in-law (deceased) was a former Commander in Chief of the Cambodian Royal Air Force and Prince.[/quote]

The More You Know. (And Rainbow)

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[quote=jamf;1048534]Not trying to be a dick but what is the appeal of Jay Gruden?

I don't know much about him and Cincinnati isn't doing anything offensively that says genius.
They are 10th on offense with a lot of talent and we are 9th.
He's never had a top 10 offense.
Is he just the next Gruden?[/quote]

I think there are a lot of people who believe that Andy Dalton is playing better than he should, and that's because of Jay Gruden.

Also Gruden was a championship level head coach in the legendary Arena football league and United football league

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[quote=SmootSmack;1048562]I think there are a lot of people who believe that Andy Dalton is playing better than he should, and that's because of Jay Gruden.

Also Gruden was a championship level head coach in the legendary Arena football league and United football league[/quote]

Sold. I will take it. How much????

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[quote=SmootSmack;1048562]I think there are a lot of people who believe that Andy Dalton is playing better than he should, and that's because of Jay Gruden.

[B]Also Gruden was a championship level head coach in the legendary Arena football league and United football league[/B][/quote]

Lock. It. In.

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I think what Gruden's doing with Dalton more falls under the umbrella of managing a quarterback rather than developing him -- you'd rather have the QB developer -- but either is a better approach than what we have going on here.

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It irritates me the best HC prospects are likely to prefer Houston and other franchises before DC. Dan will pay top dollar and we have a franchise QB. We have a lot to offer as a franchise. What the deuce??

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[quote=mredskins;1048537]I don't understand why people are so attached to former players of the Skins. AKA: Russ Grimm.

What does knowing our history have to do with being a good coach? Shit I know our history.[/quote]

Russ Grimm is a proven developer of O-line talent. He has created two strong line that went to the Super Bowl (Steelers and Cardinals). He also developed the Jon Jansen and Chris Samuels. Russ would fix the O-Line.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1048566]I think what Gruden's doing with Dalton more falls under the umbrella of managing a quarterback rather than developing him -- you'd rather have the QB developer -- but either is a better approach than what we have going on here.[/quote]

Jeff Tedford has developed QB's
Here is a video of him reviewing throwing motions

[YT][ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjVF5D3EpxA[/ame][/YT]

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Unfortunately as a Cal fan, jeff knows no defense.

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[quote=The Goat;1048579]It irritates me the best HC prospects are likely to prefer Houston and other franchises before DC. Dan will pay top dollar and we have a franchise QB. We have a lot to offer as a franchise. What the deuce??[/quote]

More pressure here, bigger market, and as we've seen the potential for crazy ass drama.

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Who cares, the team is going to still suck!!!!!! The present roster is medicore, and will take 3 seasons to remedy that, and that is if the front office has a solid plan that it can actually get done in terms of getting the pieces in place. The other big issue is that this whole debacle proves and what the Marty debacle proved is that you can't have a strong willed coach work with Snyder or Danny boy will undermine him or just fire his ass. Danny helped create the monster diva in RG III, and any new coach is going to have to kiss RG IIIs ass. Do you think Bill Cowher would want to be a part of this organization knowing full well of how it is run? I don't want a college coach, just because he coached our diva in a college system in a conference that is known for absolutely NO DEFENSE. Besides we had that experiment with Spurrier and Danny "Awful", another Heisman winner. Personally, I do like John Gruden, but I don't think he would want to work for Snyder unless The Danny put up a ton of cash, and even then I think he will pass. He is making tons of $$$$$$$$$ just BSing about football and making commericals. Why put yourself in the middle of a firestorm? I am thinking we will have another Zorn type, a young assistant that will go for it, just to at least have on his resume he was a HC, but I think the smarter ones will not bite. Zorn will never ever be a HC in the NFL ever again because of the disaster he had in DC. The smarter ones will bide their time and go to a team they can win with and have a decent career. I just don't see this farce getting any better. I still think Jerry Jones and Snyder are geniuses and are just laughing at us little people for actually caring about this shit.

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Pro football is all about the $$$$$$$$$$$, nothing more, nothing less. Watching last year's playoffs and the Super Bowl totally confirmed my long held suspicions that it was just about the money, and fixed as well, and not just by the zebras.

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I do think Snyder is smarter than Jones in that he stays quiet for the most part, thus doesn't say a lot of dumb things like Jones, but he likes his drama, because he knows it sells tickets and gives him free advertising. The thing is I think the charade will get old, and maybe the emphasis will be on winning again. This stupid obsession with getting teams in Europe is fantasy at best. FIFA games are not well attended as NFL games, as Europeans need every dime they have to survive anymore.

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Drama sells tickets? Did you see the stands last week?