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[quote=over the mountain;1059977]yeah, i love the fact he is always willing to give his body up for the homerun play but it is a double edged sword.

i view the Kirk Cousins situation as pretty straightforward.

If we dont get a 2nd or a comparative package deal we keep him.[/quote]

I love that about RG3. If he wants to last he has to play smarter, which I think he did more of last year than his rookie season.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1059972]...right into the hands of defenders.[/quote]

All the great QB's throw them. It's part of playing the position. RG3 sure had his share of awful picks when he only looked at one guy. Collingsworth pointed this out that he never looks at his 2nd and 3rd options. Cousins had his too. I guess you expect young starters not to throw them? lol.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1059984]I'm not saying Cousins is Tom Brady. He made his share of mistakes. You also have to remember the game was called a lot different then when RG3 was in there. The play calling was a lot more aggressive so more turnovers are expected. I think as Cousins moves on his career he'll learn to throw more on time. His Ints were not because he's throwing into double coverage, [B]or only looking at one guy[/B]. His issues seems to be he throws late and behind, very correctable.[/quote]

That is coachable too. In fact I would be more concerned with someone throwing it behind receivers consistently than someone who wasn't reading defenses properly in their second season.

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Per Adam Schefter via Twitter: "Redskins have no plans nor interest in trading QB Kirk Cousins, per league sources. He's not going anywhere."

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[quote=skinsguy;1060051]Per Adam Schefter via Twitter: "Redskins have no plans nor interest in trading QB Kirk Cousins, per league sources. He's not going anywhere."[/quote]

Adam Schefter? shannhans hack said this?

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Shanny is long gone, and Schefter has plenty of other sources.

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[quote=Mattyk;1059930]How many times did Cousins get sacked in those 3 starts?[/quote]

5 times if I am not mistaken, but he was hit a lot more than that.

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[quote=skinsguy;1060051]Per Adam Schefter via Twitter: "Redskins have no plans nor interest in trading QB Kirk Cousins, per league sources. He's not going anywhere."[/quote]

It's all part of the game...the off-field game that is

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[quote=SmootSmack;1060081]It's all part of the game...the off-field game that is[/quote]

I figured as much. Cousins will probably be gone before or by draft time.

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Connor Shaw UDFA hell yeah!!!!

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1060101]Connor Shaw UDFA hell yeah!!!![/quote]

Very doubtful he goes undrafted. He would be a good project QB, though.

I still think we need to sign Stephen Morris as a UDFA. He's athletic, strong-armed, and can make any throw. He just needs to be more consistent.

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If KC is dealt, what are our options? I think the best FA QB is Vick. There will be a market for him, just not sure if it will be as a starter. Wouldn't mind seeing him come here to back up RG3.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1060242]If KC is dealt, what are our options? I think the best FA QB is Vick. There will be a market for him, just not sure if it will be as a starter. Wouldn't mind seeing him come here to back up RG3.[/quote]

I wouldn't mind it either, except that the price tag would be too high for a backup. My first choice would be Colt McCoy.

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Cousins is a project....he played like it.....getting even a third rounder for him is a dream......

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1060258]Cousins is a project....he played like it.....getting even a third rounder for him is a dream......[/quote]

This, in my opinion is rubbish. I still think we will get a 3rd and 4th rounder for him, maybe a 2nd.

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Does anyone think Cousins can be better than Andy Dalton under Gruden?

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1060318]Does anyone think Cousins can be better than Andy Dalton under Gruden?[/quote]

I think he IS dalton under gruden basically.

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Still, it sounds like Cousins has a plan for politely pushing the issue. “I’m gonna communicate my desire to play in a classy way,” Cousins said. “I don’t want to do it in a way that’s gonna hurt our organization or reflect poorly on me or the team. But yeah, I absolutely want to play, and that’s not a complicated fact. But we’ll see what happens. We’ll see what’s in the cards. And if I’m not good enough, I’ve got to accept that, but all I’m looking for is that chance.”

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1060440]Still, it sounds like Cousins has a plan for politely pushing the issue. “I’m gonna communicate my desire to play in a classy way,” Cousins said. “I don’t want to do it in a way that’s gonna hurt our organization or reflect poorly on me or the team. But yeah, I absolutely want to play, and that’s not a complicated fact. But we’ll see what happens. We’ll see what’s in the cards. And if I’m not good enough, I’ve got to accept that, but all I’m looking for is that chance.”[/quote]

I think someone from the front office needs to give his agent a call and tell him to stop talking. Nothing wrong with wanting to play, but I do believe that he needs to stop doing all these interviews and just be quiet. At this point in time, he's a backup and needs to act like it. Be seen and not heard. Let your play in spring practices do your talking for you.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1060318]Does anyone think Cousins can be better than Andy Dalton under Gruden?[/quote]

I do. He has a stronger arm, better mobility, throws a better deep ball and has a little bit better mobility. He just needs to play and get experience/reps.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1060460]I do. He has a stronger arm, better mobility, throws a better deep ball and has a little bit better mobility. He just needs to play and get experience/reps.[/quote]

Let's agree to disagree. Either way he needs to be given his opportunity. I think the best situation for Kirk would be Canada, just to prove himself. He has not wowed anyone as of yet. If he truly has confidence in his skills Canada could do wonders for him, if he is truly good.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1060464]Let's agree to disagree. Either way he needs to be given his opportunity. I think the best situation for Kirk would be Canada, just to prove himself. He has not wowed anyone as of yet. If he truly has confidence in his skills Canada could do wonders for him, if he is truly good.[/quote]Canada, lol. You want him as far away from the starting job here, as possible. Don't you? Would enjoy seeing you freak out if we brought in someone (or if Kirk catches fire) who actually competes against RG3.

If history's any indicator, Cousins will get playing time this season. And if we're doing well, hopefully help the team like he did in 2012.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1060464]Let's agree to disagree. Either way he needs to be given his opportunity. I think the best situation for Kirk would be Canada, just to prove himself. He has not wowed anyone as of yet. If he truly has confidence in his skills Canada could do wonders for him, if he is truly good.[/quote]

Ridiculous.

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My god....hahaha. Canada.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1060464]Let's agree to disagree. Either way he needs to be given his opportunity. I think the best situation for Kirk would be Canada, just to prove himself. He has not wowed anyone as of yet. If he truly has confidence in his skills Canada could do wonders for him, if he is truly good.[/quote]

You can't even be taken serious with these silly ass comments. You dislike Cousins on a personal level, for whatever reason. This thread needs to be put out of it's misery.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1060464]Let's agree to disagree. Either way he needs to be given his opportunity. I think the best situation for Kirk would be Canada, just to prove himself. He has not wowed anyone as of yet. If he truly has confidence in his skills Canada could do wonders for him, if he is truly good.[/quote]

Canada?

I was thinking Jacksonville, Arizona, or Oakland.

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[quote=Lotus;1060480]Canada?

I was thinking Jacksonville, Arizona, or Oakland.[/quote]

I was thinking aboot Buffalo. They are part Canandian

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[quote=Chico23231;1060482]I was thinking aboot Buffalo. They are part Canandian[/quote]

:laughing2

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[quote=Mattyk;1060477]Ridiculous.[/quote]

I was thinking more stupid but your word works.

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We could fill Fletcher's spot by trading Cousins to:

Arizona for Daryl Washington or Jasper Brinkley (Dansby is a FA but is old and perhaps expensive)
or
Oakland for Nick Roach
or
Jacksonville for Paul Posluszny

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[quote=skinsfan69;1060458]I think someone from the front office needs to give his agent a call and tell him to stop talking. Nothing wrong with wanting to play, but I do believe that he needs to stop doing all these interviews and just be quiet. At this point in time, he's a backup and needs to act like it. Be seen and not heard. Let your play in spring practices do your talking for you.[/quote]

Right now there's nothing going on so I say let him talk if he wants, once things start rolling again I'm pretty sure he'll let the issue die down.

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[quote=Lotus;1060487]We could fill Fletcher's spot by trading Cousins to:

Arizona for Daryl Washington or Jasper Brinkley (Dansby is a FA but is old and perhaps expensive)
or
Oakland for Nick Roach
or
Jacksonville for Paul Posluszny[/quote]


I'd love to get Puz but we'd have a new hole to fill.

Keeping Cousins seems to make the most sense.


Are these almost daily reports of Cousins wanting a trade coming from Kirk himself, or just the media trying to stir up another fake controversy for us? I know he originally said it, but is he harping on it as much as the media? I'm doubting it.


Of course he wants to start. I wouldn't want a player on the roster who isn't striving to be the best at his position. If he really does become a problem, trade him to a horrible team like Jax and let him get what he wanted.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1060458]I think someone from the front office needs to give his agent a call and tell him to stop talking. Nothing wrong with wanting to play, but I do believe that he needs to stop doing all these interviews and just be quiet. At this point in time, he's a backup and needs to act like it. Be seen and not heard. Let your play in spring practices do your talking for you.[/quote]
I would be a little surprised if the FO didn't encourage him to get his name out. If he was able to raise his value to a 2nd by looking energized and ready to go then good for him. It's kinda the same philosophy as letting a FA know you want him, but if he wants to test the market, go ahead, we have a deal for you here if you don't find better.

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I get that wanting to get your name out is good. But NFL general managers aren't going to judge him by listening to interviews, they're going to look at the film, look at his work ethic and so on. I can't remember a back-up doing this much media. I can see doing one, but he keeps talking it seems every week.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1060497]I get that wanting to get your name out is good. But NFL general managers aren't going to judge him by listening to interviews, they're going to look at the film, look at his work ethic and so on. I can't remember a back-up doing this much media. I can see doing one, but he keeps talking it seems every week.[/quote] I think there's still plenty of stupid owners and GMs out there. I say keep talking Cousins up for trade value.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1060492][B]I'd love to get Puz but we'd have a new hole to fill.[/B]

Keeping Cousins seems to make the most sense.


Are these almost daily reports of Cousins wanting a trade coming from Kirk himself, or just the media trying to stir up another fake controversy for us? I know he originally said it, but is he harping on it as much as the media? I'm doubting it.


Of course he wants to start. I wouldn't want a player on the roster who isn't striving to be the best at his position. If he really does become a problem, trade him to a horrible team like Jax and let him get what he wanted.[/quote]

It's easy to find a backup QB of Cousins' quality. It is difficult to acquire a quality (rather than just-a-guy) ILB.

Turning Cousins into the new Fletcher makes sense.

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Actually I was serious, if Cousins wants his opportunity he needs to go it instead of talking about it. Cousins is no competition to RG3, the coach said so. Only Shannahan's QB goggles think he is a first round selection. Shannahan should have had the nerve to pick his first round prospect.

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Someone needs to tell all the #2 QBs in the NFL about these job opportunities up north.
I shudder to think how they have languished on the bench down here.

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I wonder if the Texans would be a good option as a trade partner for Cousins if they decide to draft Clowney.

Probably not because I can see them drafting Clowney and trading for Ryan Mallet instead, that is what I would do.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1060517]Someone needs to tell all the #2 QBs in the NFL about these job opportunities up north.
I shudder to think how they have languished on the bench down here.[/quote]

I think being a backup in the NFL just makes some guys complacent ... Not to mention I bet the pay isn't nearly as good in CAN even if you were a star lol.. I dunno... Guys prolly view it as a step down, instead of an opportunity to play...