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Is he in the plans for anything in the future smoot?

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Not that I know of, just a friendly advisor to Snyder

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[quote=SmootSmack;1102287]Not that I know of, just a friendly advisor to Snyder[/quote]

SS, you know when changes will start taking place and when they will be announced?

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Officially probably little to nothing until next week. Maybe Bruce drops some bomb tomorrow but not likely. Allen, Snyder, and Gruden aren't supposed to meet until this weekend

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[quote=SmootSmack;1102291]Officially probably little to nothing until next week. Maybe Bruce drops some bomb tomorrow but not likely. Allen, Snyder, and Gruden aren't supposed to meet until this weekend[/quote]

Since this is the MO of the decision process, there is no reason to think that Allen is getting fired or otherwise being substantially moved. So, the suck continues.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1102291]Officially probably little to nothing until next week. Maybe Bruce drops some bomb tomorrow but not likely. Allen, Snyder, and Gruden aren't supposed to meet until this weekend[/quote]

I know ill be dropping some jager bombs if haz somehow survives this

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[quote=SmootSmack;1102291]Officially probably little to nothing until next week. Maybe Bruce drops some bomb tomorrow but not likely. Allen, Snyder, and Gruden aren't supposed to meet until this weekend[/quote]

so Bruce is basically going to have nothing to say tomorrow. I can only assume he will hold another press conference a few weeks from now, when he actually has some important things to say.

We've been waiting all year to hear from Bruce .. and we are going to get a lot of empty talk, like:

"we are going to sit down and look at all our options .."

"we are going to make the best decisions for this franchise moving forward .."

"nothing is off the table ..."

"this is a process ..we are committed to the process ..."

"everyone is accountable ..."

"everyone is on the same page ..."

"no body wants a winner in Washington more than Mr. Snyder ...."

how many times is he going to say "breeland" when looking for positives . .

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I wonder if gruden really is returning? Last night on NFLN they were talking about him possibly being let go

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1102268]For all the gamblers: [URL="http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb"]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | QUARTERBACKS 2014[/URL]

Most, if not all of Kirk's really bad play came at times in the game when we were behind, trying to mount a comeback.

He played outside the system and tried to be a playmaker. He also didn't recover well from bad play. All of this is in his head.

He has the ability to make the right read and throw the ball downfield in tight windows.

[B]His biggest problem isn't ability, but rather psychological. He is the most coachable QB on the roster today.[/quote]
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Not sure why this is so hard for some fans to understand. Even going back to his college days, his td to int rate is better than 2 to1. Kirk has a lot of work to do, but he at least deserves the chance to compete for the job.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1102271]If they don't fire Haz I'm boycotting the team. Period.[/quote]

I will burn down Redskins Park.

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Can't believe that I heard Gruden say he thinks Haz should come back. SMH, is he effing kidding me? 3rd and 25 and 3rd and 16 were converted on the same drive against Mark Sanchez!!!!! What are the chances of that happening?? I'm still mad about that. LOL.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1102301]I will burn down Redskins Park.[/quote]Where's this guy when you need him?
[IMG]http://m.c.lnkd.licdn.com/media-proxy/ext?w=310&h=169&f=t&hash=bxoKNeNTMBLWJgxXJBhunGMCaJc%3D&ora=1%2CaFBCTXdkRmpGL2lvQUFBPQ%2CxAVta9Er0VzkkFUWzBclrqKIrku-qkRISM3REnK-BmXo5ZWfZmjpecLAebTwu18RfTMClAw2LOv9XmqhRQ[/IMG]

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[quote=HailGreen28;1102309]Where's this guy when you need him?
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Bruce Allen has his stapler

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Like Doc Walker stated...."Thank God it's over". Like no other season before going back to 1967 did I want this season to be over.
It was absolutely...exhausting. Something I came to dread every Sunday...httr

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Very concerned Hazcrap is still employeed. I keep checking this site and twitter to see the announcement, but nothing. Getting very nervous this disaster of a defense will continue.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1102291]Officially probably little to nothing until next week. Maybe Bruce drops some bomb tomorrow but not likely. Allen, Snyder, and Gruden aren't supposed to meet until this weekend[/quote]

Any chance Danny grows a pair and cleans house?

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Apparently gruden wants to keep him

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1102360]Apparently gruden wants to keep him[/quote]

People keep saying that he's just using coach speak and he's not going to openly throw his friend under the bus.

He didn't have any problem throwing his players under the bus, but I digress.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1102360]Apparently gruden wants to keep him[/QUOTE]



Gruden needs to go then.. I wanted him to have another year to try and turn this titanic around, but not if he wants Haz back. I hope Dan cleans house.

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I agree brody I'm done with this bullshit Haslett defense and letting a no name Jay gruden call those kind of decisions

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1102361]People keep saying that he's just using coach speak and he's not going to openly throw his friend under the bus.

He didn't have any problem throwing his players under the bus, but I digress.[/quote]

There's a big difference between throwing a player under the bus vs. a fellow coach.

Coaches just don't sell each other out.

Besides, he can "recommend" keeping him all he wants. Ultimately the decision isn't up to him and he knows it.

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I think we as fans need to sit back for a minute and remember just how much due diligence will go into the decisions made this off-season.

1. Cousins isn't going to just be disregarded and forgotten. He only leaves if Gruden and co. are absolutely convinced he is not good enough, PERIOD. The good and bad will be evaluated thoroughly.

2. Haslett's tape speaks for itself. It is truly impossible to do any evaluation without seeing the total dysfunction that was/is the Washington Redskins secondary under Has. There's no structure, accountability, consistency and especially no success. Nothing is good and that's going to end. Now obviously they have to make this decision early and won't wait until they've gone through their review, but the conclusion will be the same. If it's not, we get a free pass to jump ship because it would be a disservice to the fans of the Redskins.

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I won't jump ship but I'll boycott the team until we clean house

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Also can we stop pretending Dan Snyder has anything to do with this season? It's annoying and entirely ignorant.

The only reported issue this entire year involving Dan Snyder was that he did not want Robert Griffin to be benched early in the season. What ended up happening once it became extremely clear he wasn't good enough? He was benched.

Dan Snyder has not been the same since Shanahan and whatever business decisions he's made outside of football simply have no importance to what we all cheer for. He is sitting back and allowing the people he hire to do their jobs. Unfortunately he may have hired the wrong people, it's something all owners go through.

This is on everyone underneath him and we all should see that.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1102369]I won't jump ship but I'll boycott the team until we clean house[/quote]
Me neither, but Haslett should have been gone 2 years ago, it's not in question.

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On another note, I'm sitting here looking at our free agents and see Niles Paul and Roy Helu, among others...

Time flies when you're losing doesn't it, these guys were good Redskins and wish we had them longer.

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The fact that players are backing Haslett is laughable to me. I mean I'm not an nfl coach and I know the guy works hard but he's just not good! Time to move on

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2 years ago I said this team is about to be a serious contender. Young franchise QB and RB plus best LT in the league... boy were we all fooled. Maybe mike knew what he was doing when he wanted another qb

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1102373]The fact that players are backing Haslett is laughable to me. I mean I'm not an nfl coach and I know the guy works hard but he's just not good! Time to move on[/quote]
Yup, but how can you blame them? We're the only NFL team in the league that allows players to make fundamental mistakes and go ballhawking for interceptions all while getting the chance to play the next snap without seemingly any repercussions.

I wish Ryan Clark was 5 years younger because he was the accountability we needed, it just turned out he was a horrible football player at 35 years old.

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He's done and needs to retire. Breeland showed promise and amerson absolutely sucks. Hall needs to go as well. Rak is gone and needs to be. Kerrigan finally lived up to that pick this yr so hopefully he's going to get better and better.

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That 1st dez TD was about as embarrassing as an attempt to tackle as I've ever seen watching any level of football.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1102376]He's done and needs to retire. Breeland showed promise and amerson absolutely sucks. Hall needs to go as well. Rak is gone and needs to be. Kerrigan finally lived up to that pick this yr so hopefully he's going to get better and better.[/quote]
Hall and Rak will be gone next year.

Amerson will be relegated to fighting for a job, there's no more guarantees there.

Kerrigan has always been great, his sack numbers never told the whole story. He's been our best player for two straight years.

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Best defensive player yes I agree. I'm glad he's on our team because dude is a worker.

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[quote=IrMitchell;1102380]Hall and Rak will be gone next year.

Amerson will be relegated to fighting for a job, there's no more guarantees there.

Kerrigan has always been great, his sack numbers never told the whole story. He's been our best player for two straight years.[/quote]

Fighting against who? Unless we bring in a damn fine FA or a high draft pick at CB, Amerson doesn't have anyone to compete against.

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All the shitty teams are firing people but our sorry asses. A fucking shame. This should have already been line up on a card like on draft day.

Jim Haslett- pink slip
Raheem Morris - pink slip
Chris Foester- pink slip
Scott Campbell- pink slip
Bruce Allen- you can stay but no more GM duties or football related decisions

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[quote=NC_Skins;1102384]All the shitty teams are firing people but our sorry asses. A fucking shame. This should have already been line up on a card like on draft day.

Jim Haslett- pink slip
Raheem Morris - pink slip
Chris Foester- pink slip
Scott Campbell- pink slip
Bruce Allen- you can stay but no more GM duties or football related decisions[/quote]

We're well on our way to sharing the bottom of the barrel with the Raiders. But at least Al Davis knocked off before he could keep driving that organization in the ground.

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1102384]All the shitty teams are firing people but our sorry asses. A fucking shame. This should have already been line up on a card like on draft day.

Jim Haslett- pink slip
Raheem Morris - pink slip
Chris Foester- pink slip
Scott Campbell- pink slip
Bruce Allen- you can stay but no more GM duties or football related decisions[/QUOTE]
It's because we don't know wtf we r doing as an organization bro. I'm starting to think if Haslett stays past this week he'll be on the staff

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The Washington Redskins season record under Owner Daniel Snyder
1. 1999 Season 10-6
2. 2000 Season 8-8
3. 2001 Season 8-8
4. 2002 Season 7-9
5. 2003 Season 5-11
6. 2004 Season 6-10
7. 2005 Season 10-6
8. 2006 Season 5-11
9. 2007 Season 9-7
10. 2008 Season 8-8
11. 2009 Season 4-12
12. 2010 Season 6-10
13. 2011 Season 5-11
14. 2012 Season 10-6
15. 2013 Season 3-13
16. 2014 Season 4-12
Here is Daniel Snyder's win loss record as owner
Win Loss
108 148

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1102389]The Washington Redskins season record under Owner Daniel Snyder
1. 1999 Season 10-6
2. 2000 Season 8-8
3. 2001 Season 8-8
4. 2002 Season 7-9
5. 2003 Season 5-11
6. 2004 Season 6-10
7. 2005 Season 10-6
8. 2006 Season 5-11
9. 2007 Season 9-7
10. 2008 Season 8-8
11. 2009 Season 4-12
12. 2010 Season 6-10
13. 2011 Season 5-11
14. 2012 Season 10-6
15. 2013 Season 3-13
16. 2014 Season 4-12
Here is Daniel Snyder's win lose record as owner
Win Lose
108 148[/quote]

Phew, the past 6 years have been painful, save the fluke 2012 season.

At least we were kinda average between 99 and 08

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The first 4 years I was on dans jock. Now I hate the dude