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schneed, the cowboys now have 3 players suspended. what does that do to their cap? is it just like nothing happened?

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1144422]Great question, this gets to useful specifics. He was signed through this upcoming season at $16M, but would have been a free agent in 2017.



According to OvertheCap, here is the projected cap room by team in 2017. I bolded the ones that are QB needy:



[B]Buccaneers[/B] 62,557,050 - Winston would not stop you from signing luck

Patriots 62,426,481

[B]Broncos[/B] 59,239,449

Cardinals 56,230,817

[B]Bears[/B] 54,634,333

Steelers 52,367,705

Panthers 48,671,301

[B]49ers[/B] 44,841,486

[B]Browns[/B] 44,673,390

[B]Raiders[/B] 44,387,278

[B]Colts[/B] 42,205,426

Bengals 41,059,865

Titans 40,579,159

Redskins 40,574,496

Lions 39,130,414

[B]Saints[/B] 38,993,067 Brees is also FA in 2017

Seahawks 33,706,790

[B]Bills[/B] 32,486,952

[B]Vikings[/B] 31,849,040

Falcons 31,583,760

[B]Rams[/B] 31,348,342

Chargers 26,836,303

Packers 24,708,254



You don't think John Elway would pay ANYTHING to get Andrew Luck, with that much free space in 2017? Luck held every card in the fucking deck. The Colts were held hostage, they had no choice.[/QUOTE]



I am not nearly as sold on Winston as I am on Carr in Oakland. I would not have him on the list.

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[quote=Chico23231;1144429]For the second straight year Cowboys linebacker Rolando McClain will be suspended to start the season. Sources tell Adam Schefter and myself that McClain will be suspended the first 10 games for violating the substance abuse policy. In March McClain was re-signed to a one-year deal worth up to $5 million but he could forfeit his $750,000 signing bonus.

Oh wow...are you kidding me? LOL.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/06/30/rolando-mcclain-suspended-for-10-games/]Rolando McClain suspended for 10 games | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

You know, I wondered why he was eating all my Doritos ...

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[quote=punch it in;1144439]I am not nearly as sold on Winston as I am on Carr in Oakland. I would not have him on the list.[/quote]

Probably right. If I were the Raiders and had $60M in cap space instead of $44M, I might go for Luck over Carr. But at $44M, and Carr being on a pretty good arc, you're probably right.

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[quote=Chico23231;1144431]Both starting DEs are also suspended the first 4 games as well...

Yet the talking douchbag heads are all picking the 'Boys to win the East. Really? [B]Based solely on Romo[/B]? LOL...[/quote]

Romo is f'ing heroic. A beast among boys. At the mere mention of his name, other teams just pee their pants and go home. When he walks onto the field, victory is assured each and every time ...

... until he stumbles during warm-ups and his collar bone spontaneously snaps into sixteen pieces while his surgically repaired back has seven vertebrae pop out alignment.

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[quote=dmek25;1144438]schneed, the cowboys now have 3 players suspended. what does that do to their cap? is it just like nothing happened?[/quote]

Great question.

So let's take McClain. He is suspended 10 games. The Cowboys will get relief on their salary cap for the 10 games he misses, so they open up cap space by the amount of whatever game checks he misses out on during the suspension.

But, in order to accrue a "league season" you need to be on the active roster (and not suspended) for at least six games. So if McClain comes back for the last six games and is active on game days, he accrues a league season, and thus is one year closer to free agency.

If he doesn't get through 6 games on the active roster, he does not accrue a league season, meaning his contract with the Cowboys essentially extends by one year. It's like being held back in 2nd grade to repeat it after failing too many classes.

In the event he does not accrue the league season, his 2016 salary would essentially become his 2017 salary, and his 2017 salary would become his 2018 salary. Etc.

The cap space created by McClain's suspension this year will roll into next year, if it goes unused. So in a way, from a STRICT salary cap perspective, the Cowboys might be onto something by employing players prone to suspension. The plus side is it offers salary cap relief. I would never want to build a team that way, bad character doesn't win, but you do get a break on the cap during a suspension.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1144442]Romo is f'ing heroic. A beast among boys. At the mere mention of his name, other teams just pee their pants and go home. When he walks onto the field, victory is assured each and every time ...

... until he stumbles during warm-ups and his collar bone spontaneously snaps into sixteen pieces while his surgically repaired back has seven vertebrae pop out alignment.[/quote]

I don't like Fletcher Cox. But I will like Fletcher Cox when he hits Romo. That dude doesn't just tackle QBs he slams them down like the Hulk flinging tanks.

Can't wait to see Romo's shit eating grin wiped away after that hit.

I do like Junior Galette though. A LOT.

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For the Cowboys to do anything, Elliot has to be as good as advertised. Maybe he is. Maybe he isn't. Even if he is, their defense is filled with question marks.

The only thing that really sets them apart is that O-line. It's filled with talent. Throw in Dez and, yes, they have offensive talent but I just am not seeing them stopping a lot of people or really having the offensive depth to hurt you a lot of different ways.

Stack the line for Elliot. Double Dez. They'll score some points but it's not like there a reincarnation of The Greatest Show on Turf.

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[quote=Schneed10;1144423]The Colts could have franchised him, but what's the point of that. You don't need Andrew Luck to prove himself one more time the way we need Cousins to.[/quote]

I love Cousins, think he's great, think he's the best thing for this team in a long time, but i still think about the possibility of him playing in another uniform in 2017. Probably everyone has thought about it. I want to have hope for the "new regime" but i still get afraid sometimes that we will "redskin" the situation with cousins

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Cousins isn't going anywhere unless he completely tanks.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1144450]Cousins isn't going anywhere unless he completely tanks.[/QUOTE]



Or maybe if Vinnie comes back. We could always trade him for Peyton Manning! (Maybe throw in a first round pick with Cousins).

Oh n Schneed - Galette is the key. If he returns to form we will be damn good next year!

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1144251]... and now the long dry stretch for those of us who are true addicts. You know, scrounging around CSN Redskins, CBS Sportsline, etc. for any pro football news and voraciously reading any article about anything pro football related. Podunk reporter writes a column comparing TE depth charts of the AFC West, oh yeah, I am reading it. Talking head writes puff piece article discussing the developing importance of swing tackles since 2010 - yup, first thing I read with my morning coffee. Forty-two days until training camp opens; Eighty-eight until opening day. (Got that from CSN). I ... can ... make ... it.

At least this off-season we have a national election to keep us interested in important topics outside of football ...

Well ... sh**. I think I'll hide in a dark closet and curl up in the fetal position for the next 42 days.[/QUOTE]

Canadian football ... like trying to feed a coke addiction with sugar.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1144452]Canadian football ... like trying to feed a coke addiction with sugar.

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Or get high on banana peels cus u think donovan must know something you dont!

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1144452]Canadian football ... like trying to feed a coke addiction with sugar.

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:laughing2 I turned it on last night and actually watched some of it. I can only stand so much baseball.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1144251]... and now the long dry stretch for those of us who are true addicts. You know, scrounging around CSN Redskins, CBS Sportsline, etc. for any pro football news and voraciously reading any article about anything pro football related. Podunk reporter writes a column comparing TE depth charts of the AFC West, oh yeah, I am reading it. Talking head writes puff piece article discussing the developing importance of swing tackles since 2010 - yup, first thing I read with my morning coffee. Forty-two days until training camp opens; Eighty-eight until opening day. (Got that from CSN). I ... can ... make ... it.

At least this off-season we have a national election to keep us interested in important topics outside of football ...

Well ... sh**. I think I'll hide in a dark closet and curl up in the fetal position for the next 42 days.[/quote]

Take this for a......test drive
It should do it!
[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Redskins-In-60---Redskins-Grounds-Crew-At-Work-/df0d010a-6e94-4be0-9ad4-46bbf8f4a046]Redskins In :60 - Redskins' Grounds Crew At Work[/url]

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[quote=punch it in;1144451]Or maybe if Vinnie comes back. We could always trade him for Peyton Manning! (Maybe throw in a first round pick with Cousins).

Oh n Schneed - Galette is the key. If he returns to form we will be damn good next year![/quote]

I agree, he is the single player most capable of transforming our team. Norman is clutch too, but if Galette comes through then our pass rush package looks way different. We've come to really love and appreciate Ryan Kerrigan, and he's great. But man Galette is a different deal. The quicks off the edge are astounding.

There's Von Miller and Khalil Mack, but after that, you don't go too many before you get to Junior. It's all about how well that achilles responds.

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I like Preston Smith, he's going to beast this year. Also have high hopes for our 4th man in the rotation, either Lynden Trail or Willie Jefferson needs to step it up and make the team.

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We have the potential for a pretty scary pass rush in Galette, Smith, and Kerrigan. A couple of big, but attainable, ifs: IF Galette comes back full strength, IF Smith continues to grow and doesn't suffer a sophomore slump.

However, it's the Summer and I am in full Kool-Aid mode on these three. They have the potential to really terrorize an opposing QB.

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I met eli apple today. He was with a few of his boys they ate at the pizza shop i serve at... chill dude, yold him good like but #HTTR son!

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1144458]We have the potential for a pretty scary pass rush in Galette, Smith, and Kerrigan. A couple of big, but attainable, ifs: IF Galette comes back full strength, IF Smith continues to grow and doesn't suffer a sophomore slump.

However, it's the Summer and I am in full Kool-Aid mode on these three. They have the potential to really terrorize an opposing QB.[/quote]

If the OLB's can bring it the way we anticipate, then it will help the inside rush, as well. I think we all know that Big Swaggy is going to produce and I believe that we'll get some pressure from the rest of our DL rotation. I'm looking forward to seeing what Murphy can do as an inside pass rusher.

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[url=http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2016/7/3/12091666/-rg3-can-t-play-says-nfl-analyst-greg-cosell]“RG3 can’t play,” says NFL analyst Greg Cosell - Dawgs By Nature[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1144462][url=http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2016/7/3/12091666/-rg3-can-t-play-says-nfl-analyst-greg-cosell]“RG3 can’t play,” says NFL analyst Greg Cosell - Dawgs By Nature[/url][/quote]

Was reading the response to that article on the Browns forum Barking Hard.

They are literally having the exact same discussions we had here for 3 years about Robert.

Anybody here could tell them how the story ends but they won't buy it till they see it for themselves.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1144463]Was reading the response to that article on the Browns forum Barking Hard.



They are literally having the exact same discussions we had here for 3 years about Robert.



Anybody here could tell them how the story ends but they won't buy it till they see it for themselves.[/QUOTE]



There are people here on this board that still won't buy it......

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[quote=punch it in;1144464]There are people here on this board that still won't buy it......[/quote]

He never got a fair shot :mad:.

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[quote=mooby;1144473]He never got a fair shot :mad:.[/quote]

I know right?
Just like......Patrick.....

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Sadly life is not fair. But wished he did get that fair shot.

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[QUOTE=JPPT1974;1144478]Sadly life is not fair. But wished he did get that fair shot.[/QUOTE]



RG-3 or Patrick? Or OJ?

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Jay Schroeder was robbed.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1144480]Jay Schroeder was robbed.

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Tough tacos for him....we got Lachey for him and the rest is history.

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[quote=punch it in;1144479]RG-3 or Patrick? Or OJ?[/quote]

Johnny Manziel

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[quote=punch it in;1144464]There are people here on this board that still won't buy it......[/quote]

Wait until Kirk has a bad game. All we'll hear is..."He's a turnover machine, he's Rex Grossman, why did we get rid of RG3?"

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1144482]Johnny Manziel[/QUOTE]



Another victim of the short leash!

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[quote=JPPT1974;1144478]Sadly life is not fair. But wished he did get that fair shot.[/quote]

[IMG]https://67.media.tumblr.com/f638294b0af84c8ab51638a438aa0221/tumblr_o2vf3iC0oe1unigu6o1_500.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1144480]Jay Schroeder was robbed.

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...and Heath Shuler and Jason Campbell

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1144497]...and Heath Shuler and Jason Campbell[/QUOTE]



Brunell, Beck, Grossman....all robbed.

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[quote=punch it in;1144498]Brunell, Beck, Grossman....all robbed.[/quote]

Brunell had his shot :mad:

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Saying someone didn't get his fair shot is just a lame excuse the fans use when a player they like simply isn't good enough.

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[quote=MTK;1144504]Saying someone didn't get his fair shot is just a lame excuse the fans use when a player they like simply isn't good enough.[/quote]

I notice fans who don't know the other 31 teams very well tend to be the ones who say these things.

They don't do a good job of comparing our guys to their peers across the league.

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[quote=J. Falcon;1144499]Brunell had his shot :mad:[/quote]

I don't 100% agree. He entered 2004 injured and that whole Gibbs team was way out of sync and Gibbs was getting used to the NFL again.

2005 - he played much much better and obviously we were a playoff team again.

2006 - Most NFL experts and coaches felt that Brunell was the scapegoat for an underperforming team that was basically ruined by trying to learn Al Saunders 1,700 page playbook.

2007 - we were a much better football team and I would have wanted to see how Brunell did in year two of that complicated offense...

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Brunell's arm was shot and he was captain check down by 2006.