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[quote=SirLK26;1165449]....Im interested in the developmental QBs to be found in the mid rounds. 30gut I noticed you mocked Davis Webb in the 5th, any others you guys like?[/quote]I like them all. Some others mid/late round guys are Pat Mahomes, Brad Kayaa, Jerod Evans and late round/ UDFA Anontio Pipkin.

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[quote=30gut;1165529]I like them all. Some others mid/late round guys are Pat Mahomes, Brad Kayaa, Jerod Evans and late round/ UDFA Anontio Pipkin.[/quote]

FWIW;

[url=http://walterfootball.com/draft2017QB.php]WalterFootball.com: 2017 NFL Draft: Quarterback Rankings[/url]

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[quote=Irrefutable;1165533]FWIW;

[url=http://walterfootball.com/draft2017QB.php]WalterFootball.com: 2017 NFL Draft: Quarterback Rankings[/url][/quote] oh I know about Walter's Football I'm just not their biggest fan. They are good for a one-stop-shop for information that covers pretty much all aspects of the draft. But their accuracy is questionable in my opinion. Very questionable especially on quarterbacks.

I like to watch and chart games myself and rely on cbsdraft/nfldraftscout for draft info and have learned to respect PFF draft stuff and find the opinions of Matt Waldman informative.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1165485]Do you have to be a paid member to get a draft grade? I haven't seen any on the ones I did.[/quote]

try:

[url=http://www.first-pick.com/Default.aspx]First-Pick.com[/url]

Re: 2017 Draft Prospects
 

NFL DRAFT GAME 2017Logged in as: dmek25Log Out
YOUR TEAM: WASHINGTON REDSKINS
GAME OVER!
New Draft Home (Scores)

Your score is: 10585 (GRADE: B+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 17: Malik McDowell, DT/DE, Michigan State (B)
Round 2 Pick 17: Jarrad Davis, ILB, Florida (A-)
Round 3 Pick 17: Vincent Taylor, DT, Oklahoma State (B+)
Round 4 Pick 7: Alex Anzalone, OLB, Florida (A)
Round 4 Pick 17: Josh Jones, FS, NC State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 10: Alex Kozan, OG, Auburn (D)
Round 5 Pick 17: Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M (C+)
Round 6 Pick 17: Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma (B-)
Round 6 Pick 25: Treyvon Hester, DT, Toledo (D)
Round 7 Pick 17: Darreus Rogers, WR, Southern California (A+)

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Your score is: 12483 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 17: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 17: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (A+)
Round 3 Pick 17: Marcus Maye, FS, Florida (A-)
Round 4 Pick 7: Kyle Fuller, C, Baylor (A-)
Round 4 Pick 17: Ryan Glasgow, DT, Michigan (A+)
Round 5 Pick 10: Avery Gennesy, OG, Texas A&M (B+)
Round 5 Pick 17: Devonte Fields, OLB/DE, Louisville (B+)
Round 6 Pick 17: Bryan Cox, DE, Florida (B)
Round 6 Pick 25: Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (A+)
Round 7 Pick 17: T.J. Logan, RB, North Carolina (C+)

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Missed getting a TE but I like the rest:

17: R1P17 - CB MARSHON LATTIMORE - OHIO STATE
49: R2P17 - S BUDDA BAKER - WASHINGTON
81: R3P17 - S DESMOND KING - IOWA
112: R4P7 - DL VINCENT TAYLOR - OKLAHOMA STATE
122: R4P17 - WR JOSH REYNOLDS - TEXAS A&M
155: R5P10 - C KYLE FULLER - BAYLOR
162: R5P17 - DL DEANGELO BROWN - LOUISVILLE
202: R6P17 - EDGE JOSH CARRAWAY - TCU
210: R6P25 - RB MATTHEW DAYES - NC STATE

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[quote=30gut;1165541]try:

[url=http://www.first-pick.com/Default.aspx]First-Pick.com[/url][/quote]

I finally got this site to work...I had to allow pop-ups & then it worked

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Charley Casserly says this is the deepest defensive draft he has ever seen.

Per Rich Tandler;

Virtually guarantees that McC will go WR-guard in the first two rounds.

I hope Rich is wrong

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Missed getting a Guard, but I'd take this draft all day.... but this could all change after the combine. Still fun playing GM for a few minutes.

Your Picks:
17: R1P17 LB REUBEN FOSTER - ALABAMA
49: R2P17 S DESMOND KING - IOWA
81: R3P17 DL CHRIS WORMLEY - MICHIGAN
114: R4P7 C ETHAN POCIC - LSU
124: R4P17 DL JALEEL JOHNSON - IOWA
154: R5P10 WR RYAN SWITZER - NORTH CAROLINA
161: R5P17 EDGE NOBLE NWACHUKWU - WEST VIRGINIA
201: R6P17 RB JOE WILLIAMS - UTAH
209: R6P25 S RAYSHAWN JENKINS - MIAMI (FLA.)

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Your score is: 11674 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 17: Malik McDowell, DT/DE, Michigan State (B)
Round 2 Pick 17: Budda Baker, FS, Washington (A+)
Round 3 Pick 17: Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (A)
Round 4 Pick 7: Jordan Leggett, TE, Clemson (A+)
Round 4 Pick 17: Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, Villanova (C+)
Round 5 Pick 10: John Johnson, FS, Boston College (B-)
Round 5 Pick 17: Davis Webb, QB, California (B-)
Round 6 Pick 17: Jamaal Williams, RB, Brigham Young (A)
Round 6 Pick 25: Trent Taylor, WR, Louisiana Tech (A-)
Round 7 Pick 17: Brandon Bell, OLB, Penn State (B-)

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I hate to rain on everyone's mock draft, but you are not factoring in compensatory picks

Also,

[url=http://www.nfl.com/combine/participants?campaign=tw-nf-sf58824685-sf58824685]NFL Events: Combine Participants[/url]

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[quote=Irrefutable;1165818]I hate to rain on everyone's mock draft, but you are not factoring in compensatory picks[/quote]

Speaking of which, I [U]hate[/U] compensatory picks. I don't know why a team should be rewarded for not keeping their own players. What's worse is that the league awards these picks starting at the end of the Third Round. Now, the teams with those picks can even trade them. That's worse, still.

Maybe I just don't understand the logic. Perhaps someone can set me straight on the rationale for this type of pick.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1165818]I hate to rain on everyone's mock draft, but you are not factoring in compensatory picks[/quote]

Why do you think this?

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Some of the compensatory picks are at the end of the 3rd round add 10 to 15 picks before the 4th round starts... so it is like they moved back in the 4th round


The Redskins just lost a 5th round pick to the 49ers. Reportedly the Carrier trade was a conditional pick that ended up being a 7th round pick, now the official NFL list of picks gives the Redskin 5th to SF. And they now have 10 picks.

per Rich Tandler

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/redskins-have-10-picks-2017-nfl-draft]The Redskins have 10 picks in 2017 NFL draft | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

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[quote=dej733;1165802]Missed getting a Guard, but I'd take this draft all day.... but this could all change after the combine. Still fun playing GM for a few minutes.

Your Picks:
17: R1P17 LB REUBEN FOSTER - ALABAMA
49: R2P17 S DESMOND KING - IOWA
81: R3P17 DL CHRIS WORMLEY - MICHIGAN
114: R4P7 C ETHAN POCIC - LSU
124: R4P17 DL JALEEL JOHNSON - IOWA
154: [B]R5P10 WR RYAN SWITZER - NORTH CAROLINA
161: R5P17 EDGE NOBLE NWACHUKWU - WEST VIRGINIA[/B]
201: R6P17 RB JOE WILLIAMS - UTAH
209: R6P25 S RAYSHAWN JENKINS - MIAMI (FLA.)[/quote]

Those two guys can be big impact specialized players. I would take this all day too

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High profile RBs at the combine today - 40 yd dash -

Christian McCaffrey 4.49
Dalvin Cook 4.50
Leonard Fournette 4.51

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1166250]High profile RBs at the combine today - 40 yd dash -

Christian McCaffrey 4.49
Dalvin Cook 4.50
Leonard Fournette 4.51[/quote]

Fournette is the only guy we should consider from that group...he is a beast

Re: 2017 Draft Prospects
 

[quote=dej733;1165802]Missed getting a Guard, but I'd take this draft all day.... but this could all change after the combine. Still fun playing GM for a few minutes.

Your Picks:
17: R1P17 LB REUBEN FOSTER - ALABAMA
49: R2P17 S DESMOND KING - IOWA
81: R3P17 DL CHRIS WORMLEY - MICHIGAN
114: R4P7 C ETHAN POCIC - LSU
124: R4P17 DL JALEEL JOHNSON - IOWA
154: R5P10 WR RYAN SWITZER - NORTH CAROLINA
161: R5P17 EDGE NOBLE NWACHUKWU - WEST VIRGINIA
201: R6P17 RB JOE WILLIAMS - UTAH
209: R6P25 S RAYSHAWN JENKINS - MIAMI (FLA.)[/quote]

[B][COLOR="Red"]Reuben Foster sent home from the combine for a heated argument with hospital worker yesterday[/COLOR][/B]

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If everyone had the exact same grade when we pick at 17, what position would you go for? I'd go for a safety. Inside LB would be my next choice.

Re: 2017 Draft Prospects
 

[quote=Irrefutable;1165786]Charley Casserly says this is the deepest defensive draft he has ever seen.

Per Rich Tandler;

Virtually guarantees that McC will go WR-guard in the first two rounds.

I hope Rich is wrong[/quote]

BPA... I wouldn't be surprised if we took a player on offense with the first pick. If he takes a guard then so be it. Maybe that will help us run the ball on 3rd and 1 and score more td's.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1166337]If everyone had the exact same grade when we pick at 17, what position would you go for? I'd go for a safety. Inside LB would be my next choice.[/quote]

Somewhere along the Dline, getting better there will make everybody else better. Safety would be next. At ILB Comp and Foster are upgradable, but at least they're both competent. Not a high priority to me

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1166250]High profile RBs at the combine today - 40 yd dash -

Christian McCaffrey 4.49
Dalvin Cook 4.50
Leonard Fournette 4.51[/quote]

I watched these guys run pass receiving drills on TV at the Combine yesterday. These are my observations:

McCaffery: His pass routes were precise; his cuts were sharp and fast; he catches the ball with an easy fluidity like a WR; clearly the best pass catcher of the group. This guy is a smooth, fast athlete who will bring tremendous value to some team. We know he can run the ball, he's a tremendous PR/KR, he catches everything thrown to him, and, I assume he can probably pass well, too. Talk about Slash! He should be an awesome 3rd Down back/Slot Receiver/PR/KR. I think he could play WR, as well.

Cook: He is pure excitement in everything he does. He is a spectacular athlete. He ran very good routes; he has soft natural hands; made the best catch of the day. His quickness is amazing. I'm not sure if he is big enough to be a prime back in the NFL but i sure want to see him try. He reminds me of Shady McCoy.

Fournette: Wow! What an NFL body! He can definitely carry the load in the NFL. He ran decent routes but he struggled catching the ball at first. You could tell that he wasn't used to catching the ball but he improved with every rep - no kidding, visible improvement. By the end of the drills, he was catching the ball just fine. He obviously has the capacity to learn fast. This guy is an exciting big back.

I would draft any of them. There were some other good looking pass receivers among the RB's but I don't have time to get to them right now. I might mention them later.

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[quote=SirLK26;1166348]Somewhere along the Dline, getting better there will make everybody else better. Safety would be next. At ILB Comp and Foster are upgradable, but at least they're both competent. Not a high priority to me[/quote]

There really is no wrong choice on defense. We can use upgrades at all 3 levels. You can make valid arguments for all of them.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1166349]I watched these guys run pass receiving drills on TV at the Combine yesterday. These are my observations:

McCaffery: His pass routes were precise; his cuts were sharp and fast; he catches the ball with an easy fluidity like a WR; clearly the best pass catcher of the group. This guy is a smooth, fast athlete who will bring tremendous value to some team. We know he can run the ball, he's a tremendous PR/KR, he catches everything thrown to him, and, I assume he can probably pass well, too. Talk about Slash! He should be an awesome 3rd Down back/Slot Receiver/PR/KR. I think he could play WR, as well.

Cook: He is pure excitement in everything he does. He is a spectacular athlete. He ran very good routes; he has soft natural hands; made the best catch of the day. His quickness is amazing. I'm not sure if he is big enough to be a prime back in the NFL but i sure want to see him try. He reminds me of Shady McCoy.

Fournette: Wow! What an NFL body! He can definitely carry the load in the NFL. He ran decent routes but he struggled catching the ball at first. You could tell that he wasn't used to catching the ball but he improved with every rep - no kidding, visible improvement. By the end of the drills, he was catching the ball just fine. He obviously has the capacity to learn fast. This guy is an exciting big back.

I would draft any of them. There were some other good looking pass receivers among the RB's but I don't have time to get to them right now. I might mention them later.[/quote]

We all know somehow someway McCaffery is going to end up on the Patriots. He's going to be the running back version of Edelman.

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Here is my main issue with the BPA theory alone...

the guy in charge of one of the strongest builds of any NFL Team (Seattle's John Schneider) destroy's that premise on its own in the first line of this article....

Seattle Seahawks general manager John Schneider admitted last week that [B]need plays a major factor when setting the draft board.[/B]



[U]
[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/24625/seahawks-may-have-trouble-finding-offensive-tackle-help-in-the-draft]Seahawks could have trouble finding offensive tackles in NFL draft - Seattle Seahawks Blog- ESPN[/url][/U]

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[quote=Bangee7;1166399]Here is my main issue with the BPA theory alone...

the guy in charge of one of the strongest builds of any NFL Team (Seattle's John Schneider) destroy's that premise on its own in the first line of this article....

Seattle Seahawks general manager John Schneider admitted last week that [B]need plays a major factor when setting the draft board.[/B]



[U]
[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/24625/seahawks-may-have-trouble-finding-offensive-tackle-help-in-the-draft]Seahawks could have trouble finding offensive tackles in NFL draft - Seattle Seahawks Blog- ESPN[/url][/U][/quote]

should be BPA at a position of need.... for the the Redskins that means almost any position

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[quote=Bangee7;1166399]Here is my main issue with the BPA theory alone...

the guy in charge of one of the strongest builds of any NFL Team (Seattle's John Schneider) destroy's that premise on its own in the first line of this article....

Seattle Seahawks general manager John Schneider admitted last week that [B]need plays a major factor when setting the draft board.[/B]



[U]
[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/24625/seahawks-may-have-trouble-finding-offensive-tackle-help-in-the-draft]Seahawks could have trouble finding offensive tackles in NFL draft - Seattle Seahawks Blog- ESPN[/url][/U][/quote]

Well yeah, thats common sense. Only fans think you go into a draft and just blindly take the "best" player available

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I want Obi Melifonwu and Rasul Douglas. It would be nice to have some great size in the secondary.

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No way Myles Garrett isn't the number one overall pick now. Cleveland, don't be stupid. 272 lbs and a 4.64 40. And the dude is straight jacked.

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My staff has 27 or more DL in the first 3 rounds

[url=http://walterfootball.com/combine2017DL.php]WalterFootball.com: 2017 NFL Draft Scouting Combine - Defensive Linemen[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1166337]If everyone had the exact same grade when we pick at 17, what position would you go for? I'd go for a safety. Inside LB would be my next choice.[/quote]

Either one would be great by me. I am surprised nobody is talking about Solomon from Stanford. The D line really sucks and is paramount to helping our def backs.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1166337]If everyone had the exact same grade when we pick at 17, what position would you go for? I'd go for a safety. Inside LB would be my next choice.[/quote]

Easy...DL

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1166408]I want Obi Melifonwu and Rasul Douglas. It would be nice to have some great size in the secondary.[/quote]

Melifonwu had a great combine, he just moved onto my want list.

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wouldnt having a very strong dline actually inprove the back 7s play? i say draft nothing but defense, and the majority d lineman

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nvm

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If Cousins is in deed gone and we were only picking a qb at #2, who would everyone choose? Watson would be my guy but I might be the only one.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1166688]If Cousins is in deed gone and we were only picking a qb at #2, who would everyone choose? Watson would be my guy but I might be the only one.[/quote]

Mitch

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Since we will most likely have the 2nd pick, do we take a QB? Trade for a QB (Garrapolo) or just take a DL/DB?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1166698]Since we will most likely have the 2nd pick, do we take a QB? Trade for a QB (Garrapolo) or just take a DL/DB?[/quote]

If we trade Kirk, we should go defense with the 2nd pick, defense with the 17th pick, trade a later pick for AJ McCarron.