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[quote=MTK;1211418]Sure, if a coaching change happens. I just don't know who is going to want to come here and clean up this shit. [B]I'd probably ride with Gruden one more year.[/B][/quote]

No way. He gone! But an actual GM needs to be put in place 1st. Say you give Kyle Smith the GM position, who is respected around the league, lose Bruce Allen, and propose to draft a QB in 2019, job becomes a lot more desirable.

Gruden needs to be gone, but other things need to happen 1st. Hes like the last piece of the puzzle.

So we'll probably do the exact opposite.

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1211418]Sure, if a coaching change happens. I just don't know who is going to want to come here and clean up this shit. I'd probably ride with Gruden one more year.[/QUOTE]Thinking about it, promote Smith or a talented up and comer to GM .( but he needs to be a real GM, in charge of all things football). Give the GM stability through his (or her, Condi Rice scenario) contract.

Then let him decide about Gruden and staff. My instinct is he would clean house.

Your point is well taken. I think Cleveland is a better job than Washington as it stands right now.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1211438]No way. He gone! But an actual GM needs to be put in place 1st. Say you give Kyle Smith the GM position, who is respected around the league, lose Bruce Allen, and propose to draft a QB in 2019, job becomes a lot more desirable.

Gruden needs to be gone, but other things need to happen 1st. Hes like the last piece of the puzzle.

So we'll probably do the exact opposite.[/QUOTE]Agree 100.

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Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

If John Harbaugh becomes available I want him over everyone

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lol @ ride with Gruden for another year. Pass.

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[quote=Meks;1211463]lol @ ride with Gruden for another year. Pass.[/quote]

how was it live last night? pretty fun?

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[quote=Chico23231;1211466]how was it live last night? pretty fun?[/quote]

i mean, yea it was a good time and all. a few disrespectful douchebags but also a decent amount of respect for the ST jersey as well. Not worth the $ tho, i would also stick to September games in this region simply because of the weather. Last night was cold lol. It is what it is... would have been better to win the game but, I prolly won't spend the money to go again unless its a very early in the year game. Which is a laugh the league fucks us in scheduling every year making it the most difficult it can be ha.

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

What position is the Redskins #1 need in the Draft?
Quarterback
Running Back
Possession Wide Receiver
Speed Wide Receiver
Tight End
Offensive Guard
Offensive Tackle
Center
and on defense.. CB/DB. and i would sure as heck resign Ha ha Clinton Dix..
Will Grier would be the object of my off-season one way or another.
I like Alex Smith but i don't want to go back to a check down quarterback. I can not believe we gave 40 million this yr for Alex. We could have paid Kirk for that much. We're in a tough spot right now and I don't think it would be justified firing Gruden with the Amount of injuries we have had the past 2 seasons.

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

Bleacher Report mock draft today has us taking Will Grier at No. 16.

Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

[QUOTE=SkindianOutlaw;1211471]What position is the Redskins #1 need in the Draft?

Quarterback

Running Back

Possession Wide Receiver

Speed Wide Receiver

Tight End

Offensive Guard

Offensive Tackle

Center

and on defense.. CB/DB. and i would sure as heck resign Ha ha Clinton Dix..

Will Grier would be the object of my off-season one way or another.

I like Alex Smith but i don't want to go back to a check down quarterback. I can not believe we gave 40 million this yr for Alex. We could have paid Kirk for that much. We're in a tough spot right now and I don't think it would be justified firing Gruden with the Amount of injuries we have had the past 2 seasons.[/QUOTE]



I would take any of those positions as long as it is not someone made of glass and contributes consistently.
I notice you dont have linebacker on there. Id roll with a difference maker in the middle. Think that has been probably the most glaring weakness on D.

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1211473]Bleacher Report mock draft today has us taking Will Grier at No. 16.[/quote]

I'd be happy as fuck. He's a stud

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

Josh Johnson come on down.....

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

[url]https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_alex_smith_still_in_hospital_with_post_op_infection/s1_12680_27941813[/url]

"Hearing from several different people over last few days that Alex Smith is having devastating complications from his broken leg surgery battling infection. Supposedly he's had multiple surgeries to try to combat infection. Chances of him playing again in real jeaopardy."

Wow, so it looks like Alex really may be done.

I hope the guy can walk right again much less play football. what a horrible situation.

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1211728][url]https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_alex_smith_still_in_hospital_with_post_op_infection/s1_12680_27941813[/url]

"Hearing from several different people over last few days that Alex Smith is having devastating complications from his broken leg surgery battling infection. Supposedly he's had multiple surgeries to try to combat infection. Chances of him playing again in real jeaopardy."

Wow, so it looks like Alex really may be done.

I hope the guy can walk right again much less play football. what a horrible situation.[/quote]

But I thought he be back in 6 months

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1211730]But I thought he be back in 6 months[/quote]

That may have been some folks hope but even Jay said 8-9 months. This is sad for him, like I said I just hope the dude can walk right much less play

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1211728][URL]https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_alex_smith_still_in_hospital_with_post_op_infection/s1_12680_27941813[/URL]

"Hearing from several different people over last few days that Alex Smith is having devastating complications from his broken leg surgery battling infection. Supposedly he's had multiple surgeries to try to combat infection. Chances of him playing again in real jeaopardy."

Wow, so it looks like Alex really may be done.

I hope the guy can walk right again much less play football. what a horrible situation.[/quote]

That really sucks, it was widely assumed everything would go to plan and he'd be back next year. Sounds like we should begin prepping for the worst-case scenario, which is him retiring and our cap being fucked for next year at least.

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[quote=mooby;1211734]That really sucks, it was widely assumed everything would go to plan and he'd be back next year. Sounds like we should begin prepping for the worst-case scenario, which is him retiring and our cap being fucked for next year at least.[/quote]

Alex seems like a stand up guy, I bet he would consider helping the organization somehow on that. He's made millions in his career, I Doubt he is really in need of 41M but then again money talks.

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1211736]Alex seems like a stand up guy, I bet he would consider helping the organization somehow on that. He's made millions in his career, I Doubt he is really in need of 41M but then again money talks.[/quote]

He would, he’s a stand up person and well liked.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1211736]Alex seems like a stand up guy, I bet he would consider helping the organization somehow on that. He's made millions in his career, I Doubt he is really in need of 41M but then again money talks.[/quote]

As I understand it, there really isn't anything he can do about it. Best thing he can do is wait till June 1st to retire (or we cut him as a Post Jun1st cut).

The NFLPA is not going to let a player give back guaranteed money that would be a ludicrous position for them to allow it in any circumstance. If anything they want all contracts guaranteed.

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1211743]As I understand it, there really isn't anything he can do about it. Best thing he can do is wait till June 1st to retire (or we cut him as a Post Jun1st cut).

The NFLPA is not going to let a player give back guaranteed money that would be a ludicrous position for them to allow it in any circumstance. If anything they want all contracts guaranteed.[/quote]

Well hopefully he decides to wait then. I guess we will see

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

There's no way Alex would forgo 41 Mil. This exact scenario is why that clause is even in the contract.

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[quote=punch it in;1211498]Josh Johnson come on down.....[/quote]

San Diego guy to the rescue!

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

Doc Walker is saying there is a rumor that Smith had complications from his surgery.
They aren't saying what.

Alex is another SD guy and a class act. I wish him well.

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtvvjgbXQAAvyoX.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1211761][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtvvjgbXQAAvyoX.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Not good, medically. Not good at all.

[url]https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1070710664925204482[/url]

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

Alex will be missed no matter what people say, yeah he didn't light it up for us but he was a stand up guy and a leader. This is a big blow to the organization if he can't come back, which it sounds like he won't. U hate to go right to football but now this team 100% needs to draft a QB and maybe even 2 again.

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

Partial reconstruction can include anything up to and including amputation. He needs things to go right for him. If you're the praying type I'd offer some up.

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

[quote=Schneed10;1211764]Partial reconstruction can include anything up to and including amputation. He needs things to go right for him. If you're the praying type I'd offer some up.[/quote]

Zach Miller from Chicago had the same type of infection happen I believe, and they thought he would lose his leg. Luckily he is better now but obv. he can't play on it.

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

Terrible man, just terrible. Infections are a MFer. Vèry scary.

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[url]https://twitter.com/seleneparekhmd/status/1070721171782549504[/url]

[QUOTE]Reports of @Redskins Alex Smith dealing w infection of ankle.can be very serious. Effecting bone healing & soft tissue. IV antibiotics, multiple surgical clean outs, Hardware exchanges, all considerations in infection. In the worst of scenarios, some have had amputations.[/QUOTE]

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

It’s funny I was just thinking this week we should be due for some sort of update on Alex and now word of an infection. Not uncommon with that type of injury but still, wish him the best



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[quote=Schneed10;1211770][url]https://twitter.com/seleneparekhmd/status/1070721171782549504[/url][/quote]

Dang! Prayers for Smith. Suddenly, I'm not so worried about him being able to play again, I just hope he's able to get through this without losing half his leg.

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000996553/article/qb-index-week-14-giants-among-desperate-teams[/url]

Coach Jay Gruden and team president Bruce Allen never expected to be in this position after signing Alex Smith to a four-year contract extension last March with $55 million guaranteed. There's no telling how Smith will recover from the compound leg fracture he suffered last month -- Thursday brought the troubling news that he's battling an infection related to his leg surgery -- but, unfortunately, the specifics of Smith's contract could force Washington to make an early decision about his future. Even though the Redskins owe $15 million guaranteed to Smith next season, they could decide to cut him before the fifth day of the new league year in 2019 to avoid guaranteeing his 2020 salary.


This is the brutal calculus of NFL injuries. Even in a best-case scenario for Smith's recovery, the Redskins are overdue to draft a potential replacement. Gruden has never attempted to develop a highly drafted young quarterback in Washington. (This all assumes Gruden is around to coach the team for a sixth season, which he deserves considering the awful injury luck his team has had the last two years.) The Gruden family's style is to look for veterans, so perhaps the Redskins could be players in the Teddy Bridgewater or Tyrod Taylor market.


Yuck no thanks on Tyrod or Teddy but I guess we may have no choice

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1211787][url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000996553/article/qb-index-week-14-giants-among-desperate-teams[/url]

Coach Jay Gruden and team president Bruce Allen never expected to be in this position after signing Alex Smith to a four-year contract extension last March with $55 million guaranteed. There's no telling how Smith will recover from the compound leg fracture he suffered last month -- Thursday brought the troubling news that he's battling an infection related to his leg surgery -- but, unfortunately, the specifics of Smith's contract could force Washington to make an early decision about his future. Even though the Redskins owe $15 million guaranteed to Smith next season, they could decide to cut him before the fifth day of the new league year in 2019 to avoid guaranteeing his 2020 salary.
...
[/quote]

I don't think that story is accurate. The contract has injury guarantees for the 2020 season according to spotrac:

[quote]Contract Notes:
$55M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2018 salary + 2019 salary)
2020 salary fully guarantees on the 5th league day of 2019, currently guaranteed for injury
[/quote]

If AS' career is at an end, we are on the hook for about 42 million over the next 2 years. or a mid tier qb's pay. We will be looking at 2 rookies, and likely neither will be a projected starter, because with Skins curse we will win 3 of the next 4, back in to the playoffs and pick 22nd...

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1211788]I don't think that story is accurate. The contract has injury guarantees for the 2020 season according to spotrac:



If AS' career is at an end, we are on the hook for about 42 million over the next 2 years. or a mid tier qb's pay. We will be looking at 2 rookies, and likely neither will be a projected starter, because with Skins curse we will win 3 of the next 4, back in to the playoffs and pick 22nd...[/quote]


That last line, LOL!

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

With our cap space the way it is, it seems the only feasible option at QB is the draft.

Personally, I would love to see Gruden with a chance to pick "his guy" and develop him from day one. Give me Drew Lock out of Mizzou and put a couple weapons around him.

I know most are against keeping Gruden but I haven't lost faith just yet. Since coming to D.C. his QB situation has been less than ideal. I wanna see what he can do with a rookie QB before giving him the boot.

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[quote=sevier2;1211790]
I know most are against keeping Gruden but I haven't lost faith just yet. Since coming to D.C. his QB situation has been less than ideal. I wanna see what he can do with a rookie QB before giving him the boot.[/quote]


This is a stretch man.
Gruden has had a ProBowl QB the two previous years.
I'm not going to mention the dudes name but he wasn't a "Less than ideal" QB unless your ideal QB is Rodgers or Brady.

Wanting Gruden to stick around to develop the next Brady or Rodgers would be a mistake. We need a coach that will develop the whole team.

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[IMG]https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/IhPCg4BtydbAZbCZP2FTMVOamwg=/800x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/O4VNBES4ABGQ3LCTT5Y4J2JKEI.jpg[/IMG][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/12/06/with-mark-sanchez-under-center-redskins-quarterback-carousel-is-spinning-again/?utm_term=.3a594c5a9342[/url]

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[url]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2809529-alex-smith-reportedly-battling-infection-after-surgery-on-broken-leg?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial[/url]

Re: Alex Effect - 2019 Draft
 

Sadly we are heading back to the Beck/ Grossman years. I don’t see Alex coming back.