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Well known Gruden is a players coach...I think too a fault.

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[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/inside-story-redskins-decision-release-dj-swearinger[/url]

A write up by Finley.

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I have one fear.

What if DJ being released (instead of just suspended for the final game) is somewhat of an endorsement of the coaching staff by the FO ?

I mean, if Jay and Manusky were getting canned next week, wouldn't you let it up to the next HC to decide if he wants to deal with a way too loud but overall solid player ?

I hope I'm wrong but, while I think cutting DJ was a painful but appropriate move, pretty much nobody expected that big of a sanction... So isn't it a signal that the FO is supporting the coaching staff?

Simple way to read it would be we got rid of a locker room distraction... but... IDK... I just don't want to be stuck with another year of mediocrity and false hopes...

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1214644]I have one fear.

What if DJ being released (instead of just suspended for the final game) is somewhat of an endorsement of the coaching staff by the FO ?

I mean, if Jay and Manusky were getting canned next week, wouldn't you let it up to the next HC to decide if he wants to deal with a way too loud but overall solid player ?

I hope I'm wrong but, while I think cutting DJ was a painful but appropriate move, pretty much nobody expected that big of a sanction... So isn't it a signal that the FO is supporting the coaching staff?

Simple way to read it would be we got rid of a locker room distraction... but... IDK... I just don't want to be stuck with another year of mediocrity and false hopes...

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Someone on Twitter said that John Keim pointed out a strong possibility that both Gruden and Allen will be back next season.


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[QUOTE=metalskins;1214645]Someone on Twitter said that John Keim pointed out a strong possibility that both Gruden and Allen will be back next season.


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And that’s what upsets me. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, knows Allen, Manusky, and possibly Gruden need to go.

Yet, instead of Snyder removing the root of the problem they’ll simply cut our pro bowl talents who are speaking OF the problems going on behind closed doors. The same problems Foster, Norman, Brown have spoken about..

This front office and coaching staff have NO CREDIBILITY at this point, and they’ve proven that with their record and decisions over the past 5-6 years. Yet their decisions are being trusted to cut the talent we DO have.

It’s like a regime killing off protesters to keep the truth quiet.

You are what your record is, and that’s exactly what Bruce Allen and Gruden are.




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The irony is that DJ speaking out may have been the thing that saved Manusky's job, the front office probably don't want to appear to have allowed a players public opinion to sway their decisions

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1214647]The irony is that DJ speaking out may have been the thing that saved Manusky's job, the front office probably don't want to appear to have allowed a players public opinion to sway their decisions[/QUOTE]



And that’s the same level of nepotism and decision making that’s haunted this organization since 99.

But people support the DJ move, because they can’t see the bigger picture here

People laughed when I said it was a ploy.....we’ll see


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What does the safety tandem of DJ and HaHa have to do with DJ's release? Nothing. Neither he nor HaHa is anything special.

Let me simplify this for you. You can't talk shit about the coaches in the media after you've talked shit about the coaches in the media before and been told by the HC not to talk any more shit about the coaches in the media. I think it's clear that he was released for talking more shit about coaches in the media after he was warned not to do that anymore.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1214650]What does the safety tandem of DJ and HaHa have to do with DJ's release? Nothing. Neither he nor HaHa is anything special.



Let me simplify this for you. You can't talk shit about the coaches in the media after you've talked shit about the coaches in the media before and been told by the HC not to talk any more shit about the coaches in the media. I think it's clear that he was released for talking more shit about coaches in the media after he was warned not to do that anymore.[/QUOTE]



What I meant by that is DJ and HaHa are the most talent and closet thing we’ve had to Taylor and Landry. That’s a LONG time, and since then this shit hole of an organization hasn’t been able to replace that.

Now our shit hole of an incompetent coaching staff cut him.


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[quote=DYoungJelly;1214641]No he doesn't. Not at all. He is very protective of his players and coaches.

Gruden always protects his players as much as possible in the media after games.

The lone exception was when RG3 came out and started talking bad about the other players.

Accountability happens in the meeting room not the media.

What good organizations let their players bad mouth coaches and front office through the media? Even if everything is true.

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He called out Alex Smith for not hitting open targets. He called out Trent for a penalty that killed a drive etc etc. it is not only RG3 he has criticized. The players need to hear that from the HC

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1214653]He called out Alex Smith for not hitting open targets. He called out Trent for a penalty that killed a drive etc etc. it is not only RG3 he has criticized. The players need to hear that from the HC[/QUOTE][url]https://www.redskins.com/video/jay-gruden-i-think-our-players-competed[/url]

Just listened to the post giants presser. He didn't throw anyone under the bus.

He came out and said they competed after that s show.

You're right there are examples here and there probably when asked about specific plays?

But generally he is protective and I believe he should be.

A team can't have an "it's us versus the world" mentality when airing it in the media.



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And Smoot weighs in:

[url]https://twitter.com/BurgundyBlog/status/1077945183851950082?s=20[/url]

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[quote=skinsfan69;1214607]He is a Pro Bowl alternate and evwryone knows the Pro Bowl is watered down hot garbage. The two best teams don't send their players. DJ is a solid player who can be replaced. That is obvious since he will now be on his 5tth team if someone signs him. No need for loud mouthed cry babies.[/quote]

Oh really, keep defending our disgrace for an organization. Had he played on the Cowboys, or any respectable team this year, he would have been an all pro. But he played for the idiots of the NFL. Didn't take him long to get a job. He was one of the best values for the money on our team.

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Swearinger has also mentioned laid back practices and poor preparation....this team isn't where it is only because of injuries....substandard coaching is involved too....

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I was not a big fan of Swearinger before he got and do no think he is anything special. But Swearinger (as player) is better than Manusky as a coach.

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They did the right thing. You can't have players like this on your team. it will kill any chemistry you might have.

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1214652]What I meant by that is DJ and HaHa are the most talent and closet thing we’ve had to Taylor and Landry. That’s a LONG time, and since then this shit hole of an organization hasn’t been able to replace that.

Now our shit hole of an incompetent coaching staff cut him.


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HaHa sucks, isn't fast and takes bad angles. DJ basically can not cover, is an ok tackler and runs his mouth. I have a feeling if we were cutting Troy Apke you'd still be complaining about how incompetent the front office is.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1214671]HaHa sucks, isn't fast and takes bad angles. DJ basically can not cover, is an ok tackler and runs his mouth. I have a feeling if we were cutting Troy Apke you'd still be complaining about how incompetent the front office is.[/QUOTE]



Our coaching staff and front office are clearly incompetent. All you have to do is look at their record over the past five years, and a number of their bad decisions over that timeframe as well


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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1214671]HaHa sucks, isn't fast and takes bad angles. DJ basically can not cover, is an ok tackler and runs his mouth. I have a feeling if we were cutting Troy Apke you'd still be complaining about how incompetent the front office is.[/QUOTE]



You can say whatever you want about our coaching staff but let me ask you this,What’s our record over the past five years again? How many playoff wins have we had in the past five years? Who Botched the cousins situation? Who brought Alex Smith in on that massive contract? Who hired Ruben Foster? Who let Mason Foster get away with his comments? How many players have left here to be successful elsewhere? Who lost McVay?

As I said, this is a shit organization and they have a shit coaching staff. Been this way since 99


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You sound pretty bitter about this. Have you ever considered rooting for another team? Maybe one with a long pedigree of winning and/or a SB title? Philly comes to mind.

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I bet 5SB3wins hiccups a lot

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[QUOTE=mooby;1214676]You sound pretty bitter about this. Have you ever considered rooting for another team? Maybe one with a long pedigree of winning and/or a SB title? Philly comes to mind.[/QUOTE]



You think I’m bitter? With a rapidly eroding fan base, apathy, slumping ticket sales, and total crap since 92 aren’t you? Is it safe to say the entire fan base is done at this point?

Is this ok with you?



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Hey if you don't like the Redskins then you can git out.

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214678]You think I’m bitter? With a rapidly eroding fan base, apathy, slumping ticket sales, and total crap since 92 aren’t you? Is it safe to say the entire fan base is done at this point?

Is this ok with you?



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Especially if we hang onto Gruden and Allen this is going to be a really hard offseason for you. You might wanna bail out now. I expect we’ll blow things up a little, but then also hang onto our typical mediocrity (I.e Doctson will probably be back, our typical shitty Oline, etc) cut some weight (Swearinger, JNo, Foster) and some depth. I don’t foresee next year being too different from this year.


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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1214680]Especially if we hang onto Gruden and Allen this is going to be a really hard offseason for you. You might wanna bail out now. I expect we’ll blow things up a little, but then also hang onto our typical mediocrity (I.e Doctson will probably be back, our typical shitty Oline, etc) cut some weight (Swearinger, JNo, Foster) and some depth. I don’t foresee next year being too different from this year.


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And this apparently is ok with certain fans. There are certain fans that find the last 20-30 years acceptable. They like the annual losing, and they’ll keep spending money to hang from Snyder’s nuts.

Many of those fans are right here


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[QUOTE=mooby;1214679]Hey if you don't like the Redskins then you can git out.[/QUOTE]



I think most fans have got out Looking at the empty stadiums, mass exits at half time, all time low ticket sales, ear piercing boos.

Just saying. Most Redskins fans either don’t like the team at all now, or have already left


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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1214680]Especially if we hang onto Gruden and Allen this is going to be a really hard offseason for you. You might wanna bail out now. I expect we’ll blow things up a little, but then also hang onto our typical mediocrity (I.e Doctson will probably be back, our typical shitty Oline, etc) cut some weight (Swearinger, JNo, Foster) and some depth. I don’t foresee next year being too different from this year.


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And it wouldn’t be a hard offseason for everyone else in here? If the answer isn’t yes for every single one of you than there’s something seriously wrong with you, or you find this shit organization over the last 30 years acceptable


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Haha! Gets better! Brian Lefemina is no gone less than a year in. Extremely respected individual from the NFL corporate offices now gone. More great decision making from this STELLAR organization!!

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.richmond.com/sports/redskins/redskins-executives-hired-to-clean-up-business-operation-are-out/article_b21e1b39-82d0-591b-968f-d70af53a98f8.amp.html[/url]


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Cerrato had a better record than Allen.....let that sink in. But most of you are OK with that


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Back to AZ? Good luck with that

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1214674]You can say whatever you want about our coaching staff but let me ask you this,What’s our record over the past five years again? How many playoff wins have we had in the past five years? Who Botched the cousins situation? Who brought Alex Smith in on that massive contract? Who hired Ruben Foster? Who let Mason Foster get away with his comments? How many players have left here to be successful elsewhere? Who lost McVay?

As I said, this is a shit organization and they have a shit coaching staff. Been this way since 99


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This thread is about DJ, not all that other BS. Good lord you're all over the damn place. You're talking about McVay and this is a DJ thread... WTF? Smoke a damn joint and relax.

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1214625]I’m taking about a tandem the Redskins have had


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Ok 2017 Swearinger and Nicholson was better than the Haha/Swearinger combo

Landry/Atowge was at the very least just as good

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[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/just-disagreed-comments-gruden-allen-and-foster-react-swearingers-release[/url]

J Allen weighs in.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1214736][url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/just-disagreed-comments-gruden-allen-and-foster-react-swearingers-release[/url]

J Allen weighs in.

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Allen is the kind of guy you build a team around



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[url]http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25619790/dj-swearinger-arizona-cardinals-says-keep-mouth-shut-next?platform=amp[/url]

DJ's opinion and his new coach's opinion on speaking to the media.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1214743][url]http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25619790/dj-swearinger-arizona-cardinals-says-keep-mouth-shut-next?platform=amp[/url]

DJ's opinion and his new coach's opinion on speaking to the media.

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Won’t be long before he pops off to the media again, guaranteed



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[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/inside-story-redskins-decision-release-dj-swearinger?fbclid=IwAR1-p0yiAGGduRW3hD6xsqoq8OFjcU-ajHpA2beqmN8qyaBKezItNB2OQnU[/url]


[quote=NBC Sports]Those comments came in direct opposition to what Swearinger was told in the last meeting. But the comment that nobody could look past?

“I'm a very smart football player. [B]I probably watch more film than the coaches[/B].”


[B]Some coaches on staff felt Swearinger questioned their work ethic. That could not fly.[/B]

“I’m quite disappointed to be honest with you,” Gruden said of Swearinger’s latest comments.

“We made it pretty clear that we try to keep our business within these walls and we’ve had many a talk before about that, and unfortunately he chose to go to the media again and talk about his displeasure with some of the calls. I know Coach Manusky works extremely hard as does the rest of the staff.”
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/aaaaand thread.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1214709]Ok 2017 Swearinger and Nicholson was better than the Haha/Swearinger combo



Landry/Atowge was at the very least just as good[/QUOTE]



Lol. Seriously only had to go back several weeks. HAHA might be the single worst safety we have had in years and that says a lot. Including him in any conversation of great safety tandems is the same thing as saying you have absolutely no idea what you are watching.

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[quote=punch it in;1214797]Lol. Seriously only had to go back several weeks. HAHA might be the single worst safety we have had in years and that says a lot. Including him in any conversation of great safety tandems is the same thing as saying you have absolutely no idea what you are watching.[/quote]

Clinton Dix just didn't fit the scheme...it was an incompetent decision to send a 4th rd pick to the GB Packers for him....they had Nicholson and have been grooming Everett for 3 years at that SS position...and they have Blanding and Smithson on the practice squad for two years who fit in better than HaHa does....I'll never understand this special ed front office...

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;1214799]Clinton Dix just didn't fit the scheme...it was an incompetent decision to send a 4th rd pick to the GB Packers for him....they had Nicholson and have been grooming Everett for 3 years at that SS position...and they have Blanding and Smithson on the practice squad for two years who fit in better than HaHa does....I'll never understand this special ed front office...[/QUOTE]A safety who takes bad angles to the ball carrier doesn't fit any scheme.

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