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Guys draft a QB and move on, what is drafting a 1st round WR going to do for a team with no QB? Plus we have been bit before on that... No thanks. I'd rather draft an Edge rusher over a WR.

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[quote=MTK;1218685]We've been wondering about Colt staying healthy for how long now? I've given up on him being a 16 game option. History shows he can't do it.[/quote]

I agree.I've always liked Colt and wanted him to get his chance,but it's just not gonna happen,like you said,no way he's staying healthy 16 games.If he starts the season I would bet he's injured before game 7

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[quote=htownskinfan;1218688]I agree.I've always liked Colt and wanted him to get his chance,but it's just not gonna happen,like you said,no way he's staying healthy 16 games.If he starts the season I would bet he's injured before game 7[/quote]

CM is also 32 years old, he's not the answer even for 1 season. JJ isn't either, It would be different if the team was openly tanking for Tua but they aren't.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218690]CM is also 32 years old, he's not the answer even for 1 season. JJ isn't either, It would be different if the team was openly tanking for Tua but they aren't.[/quote]

32 is not that old,especially for 1 season.To me his age has nothing to do with it.Are you forgetting Alex Smith is 34?:confused?:

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[quote=htownskinfan;1218694]32 is not that old,especially for 1 season.To me his age has nothing to do with it.Are you forgetting Alex Smith is 34?:confused?:[/quote]

Alex is 10 times the QB tho

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218695]Alex is 10 times the QB tho[/quote]

Well I would say Alex in 2017 yes,last year not so much,but that wasnt in the discussion.My point was there are reasons that Colt is not the answer{unless to your point we want to tank}but the age of 32 is not one of them,lets just say we can agree that Colt is not the answer

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I do not always agree with Kiper and McShay, but this gives a good idea of who is rated to be a first round pick
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6ZzN-ZXO3Y"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6ZzN-ZXO3Y[/URL]

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I would not be surprised if a pick the Redskins like is not available at #15, that they would make a trade with Chuckie (brother) in Oak and move down for extra picks.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1218786]I would not be surprised if a pick the Redskins like is not available at #15, that they would make a trade with Chuckie (brother) in Oak and move down for extra picks.[/quote]

Or New England, they have 12 picks including 6 in the first 3 rounds. If Hockenson is still there at #15 NE would probably want to trade up.

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A lot of chatter that ARZ is seriously considering Murray.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1218789]A lot of chatter that ARZ is seriously considering Murray.[/QUOTE]



I don’t believe it at all

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Don't remember where I saw it, might've been here or ESPN, but somebody made a good point. Tyler Murray has a great Eli Manning-like advantage built in as to his destination in the NFL, if he doesn't like the team he can force a trade by threatening to play baseball instead. Idk the kid enough to know if he'd do some shit like that but thought it was an interesting point.

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[quote=mooby;1218796]Don't remember where I saw it, might've been here or ESPN, but somebody made a good point. Tyler Murray has a great Eli Manning-like advantage built in as to his destination in the NFL, if he doesn't like the team he can force a trade by threatening to play baseball instead. Idk the kid enough to know if he'd do some shit like that but thought it was an interesting point.[/quote]

What is he going to do if he falls down the draft board and playing baseball gets him a better rookie contract? Last I checked baseball has no salary cap, let alone rookie contracts based on draft position.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1218797]What is he going to do if he falls down the draft board and playing baseball gets him a better rookie contract? Last I checked baseball has no salary cap, let alone rookie contracts based on draft position.[/QUOTE]


Here’s the thing, he’s not going straight to the majors. Minor leaguers don’t make decent money until triple A and even then we’re talking about 10k per month.

There’s no comparing the $$ he’ll get in the NFL vs baseball



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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1218797]What is he going to do if he falls down the draft board and playing baseball gets him a better rookie contract? Last I checked baseball has no salary cap, let alone rookie contracts based on draft position.[/quote]

Depends where he ends up. The Oakland A's have already drafted him 9th overall in the 2018 draft and signed him to a deal that guarantees him at least 5 mil if he plays baseball. He'd have to fall pretty deep in the NFL draft to get lower than 5 mil.

I don't think the scenario where he forces his playing destination will happen but never say never.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1218799]Depends where he ends up. The Oakland A's have already drafted him 9th overall in the 2018 draft and signed him to a deal that guarantees him at least 5 mil if he plays baseball. He'd have to fall pretty deep in the NFL draft to get lower than 5 mil.



I don't think the scenario where he forces his playing destination will happen but never say never.[/QUOTE]


So basically he could make at least 3 times that with his rookie NFL deal

Even Lamar Jackson got almost $10M last year at pick 32



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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1218797]What is he going to do if he falls down the draft board and playing baseball gets him a better rookie contract? Last I checked baseball has no salary cap, let alone rookie contracts based on draft position.[/quote]



[quote=MTK;1218798]Here’s the thing, he’s not going straight to the majors. Minor leaguers don’t make decent money until triple A and even then we’re talking about 10k per month.

There’s no comparing the $$ he’ll get in the NFL vs baseball



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He can still get a fat signing bonus for playing baseball, right? He keeps all of that no matter where he ends up, correct?

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1218802]He can still get a fat signing bonus for playing baseball, right? He keeps all of that no matter where he ends up, correct?[/QUOTE]

Sure but it’s still $5M vs probably at least $15M in the NFL to start


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Greg Cossell Breaks down scouting report on Kyler Murray, very interesting.

[url]https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1095348727856984065[/url]

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15: R1p15 - lb devin white - lsu
46: R2p14 - edge jaylon ferguson - louisiana tech
76: R3p12 - wr parris campbell - ohio state
96: R3p32 - qb brett rypien - boise state
154: R5p15 - te foster moreau - lsu
172: R5p33 - g dru samia - oklahoma
207: R6p32 - s mike bell - fresno state
229: R7p13 - s amani hooker - iowa

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1218807]Greg Cossell Breaks down scouting report on Kyler Murray, very interesting.

[url]https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1095348727856984065[/url][/quote]

He is a pocket passer, the notion that he can't make NFL throws is absurd. This is a good evaluation on him.

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[url]https://twitter.com/JReidNFL/status/1095427972004302851[/url]

Good stuff from Haskins

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[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/17/kyler-murray-nfl-draft-lincoln-riley-peter-king-fmia/?cid=fmiatwNBCS&sf207941857=1[/url]

Good write up on Murray

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After reading this article, maybe Fitzpatrick might be a good 1 year stop gap until we know what Smith and/or out 2019 draft pick leave us.

The article is on the Bleacher report

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I would take TE Hockenson in the first... great receiver who can block

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYSLHLMSOkE[/url]

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Marquise Brown will probably drop due to lisfranc injury
[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Article/Marquise-Brown-surgery-NFL-Combine-Pro-Day-wont-participate-129232221/[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1218940]Marquise Brown will probably drop due to lisfranc injury
[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Article/Marquise-Brown-surgery-NFL-Combine-Pro-Day-wont-participate-129232221/[/url][/quote]

Doubt he drops far, same injury for Corey Davis and he went #5 overall.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1218935]I would take TE Hockenson in the first... great receiver who can block

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYSLHLMSOkE[/url][/quote]

He's probably going before 15 though, he's that good

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K1 is not Mike Vick, he can make all throws [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190219/cad64895bd9458b287e864ae5a6dcc36.jpg[/IMG]

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I would take TE Hockenson in the first... great receiver who can block


Agree...TE's are becoming an important piece of today's offence.

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15: R1p15 - lb devin white - lsu
46: R2p14 - wr a.j. Brown - mississippi
76: R3p12 - g michael deiter - wisconsin
96: R3p32 - te jace sternberger - texas a&m
154: R5p15 - qb brett rypien - boise state
172: R5p33 - cb jimmy moreland - james madison
207: R6p32 - edge justin hollins - oregon
229: R7p13 - s will harris - boston college

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[quote=Irrefutable;1218935]I would take TE Hockenson in the first... great receiver who can block

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYSLHLMSOkE[/url][/quote]

Taking him would mean they either trade Reed or release him....I've seeen Hockensen's highlight reel and this kid us the truth.....but I doubt if they go TE in the 1st round.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1218975]Taking him would mean they either trade Reed or release him....I've seeen Hockensen's highlight reel and this kid us the truth.....but I doubt if they go TE in the 1st round.[/quote]

Davis and Reed are still there, they won't go TE in the 1st rd. It's going to be Murray or Jones folks, I'd bet on it

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218978]Davis and Reed are still there, they won't go TE in the 1st rd. It's going to be Murray or Jones folks, I'd bet on it[/quote]

Davis will be cut. And Reed may renegotiate contract or get cut. He is not worth $9.6 million.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1218980]Davis will be cut. And Reed may renegotiate contract or get cut. He is not worth $9.6 million.[/quote]

I see this scenario, Davis is old now.

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I wouldn't be upset with cutting both

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1218974]15: R1p15 - lb devin white - lsu
46: R2p14 - wr a.j. Brown - mississippi
76: R3p12 - g michael deiter - wisconsin
96: R3p32 - te jace sternberger - texas a&m
154: R5p15 - qb brett rypien - boise state
172: R5p33 - cb jimmy moreland - james madison
207: R6p32 - edge justin hollins - oregon
229: R7p13 - s will harris - boston college[/quote]

Would love White, but he won't get past the Broncos at 10.

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[quote=Tedskins;1218983]Would love White, but he won't get past the Broncos at 10.[/quote]

I don't think he'll be there either, but every single draft I've done using different draft boards he's been available. Hopefully fanspeak isn't just leading me on.

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The FA QB's do nothing for me, Fitz. Teddy . Tannehill...

I know some suggest Andy Dalton may be a possibility but I'd rather go Rookie and have JJ and Colt behind them.

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I'd prefer a rookie but wouldn't mind taking a flyer on Teddy. But the rest are a pass.