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[quote=mooby;1221823]Until it actually happens I'm not sweating it. Lotta misdirection plays this time of year.[/quote]

Oh, I totally believe the reports. Dan Snyder just can't help himself. He is bound to make another mess of things and we are destined to once again bemoan the consequences of his ill-advised actions.

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I think they end up with Daniel Jones, maybe at 15, or they might maneuver up or down to get him depending on how the top 14 flushes out. I don't see anything drastic happening as far as a trade up into the top 5 - that would be stupid :cheeky:.

Here's my prediction for the QB destinations:

Murray = Raiders
Lock = Giants
Haskins = Dolphins
Jones = Redskins

Not necessarily in that order.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1221834]I think they end up with Daniel Jones, maybe at 15, or they might maneuver up or down to get him depending on how the top 14 flushes out. I don't see anything drastic happening as far as a trade up into the top 5 - that would be stupid :cheeky:.

Here's my prediction for the QB destinations:

Murray = Raiders
Lock = Giants
Haskins = Dolphins
Jones = Redskins

Not necessarily in that order.[/quote]

Grier could be another option at 15.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1221837]Grier could be another option at 15.[/quote]

No thanks, that’s a big time reach and bad move at 15.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1221839]No thanks, that’s a big time reach and bad move at 15.[/quote]

Hopefully any trades we see will be us moving BACK and not up.

If we go QB at 15 I'd prefer it be Lock.

We shall see...

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[quote=SkinzWin;1221837]Grier could be another option at 15.[/quote]

God, I hope not. That would be terrible.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1221812]Just saw a report that said the draft value trade chart suggests that for us to move up to 3 from 15, it would take our 1st and 2nd this year and next year.[/quote]

[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1221813]It might be a trick to get other teams to move up and let a few top ten guys slip ...[B] They can't be this stupid[/B] .[/quote]

Did you really mean that? We are talking about a team with Daniel Snyder as the overly meddling owner and Bruce Allen as his right hand man.

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[quote=sevier2;1221840]Hopefully any trades we see will be us moving BACK and not up.

If we go QB at 15 I'd prefer it be Lock.

We shall see...[/quote]

Agree 100%.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1221837]Grier could be another option at 15.[/quote]

I def don’t think they will reach like this. I think if you look at any decent scouts top 25 board then you assume one of these guys will be a redskin by end of night.

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From JP Finlay, I hope he’s right:

The Redskins hold the 15th pick in the first round of the NFL Draft, and after a flurry of rumors and speculation about what might happen on Wednesday, we're going to keep this simple.

Multiple talent evaluators have told NBC Sports Washington that this will be the wildest draft in recent memory. There is no consensus what happens with the first pick, no consensus on the QB rankings after Kyler Murray, and the scene looks set for a lot of trades.

Since the first round projects to be so volatile, and because the Redskins don't pick until nearly midway through, here are 15 thoughts about Thursday night.

Kyler Murray will go first overall to Arizona.
The Redskins will not trade up into the Top 3.
The Redskins will not trade up into the Top 5.
Drew Lock will be the next QB off the board.
There could be a Laremy Tunsil type of situation.
Either Miami or Cincinnati will take a quarterback.
Boston College guard Chris Lindstrom goes in the top half of the draft.
Montez Sweat could slide in this draft, and it might not just be about medicals.
The injury issue will impact Rashan Gary.
The Redskins will take a defensive player with the 15th pick.
Nobody knows what the Giants will do, and they like that.
Four QBs will get drafted in the first round.
Five QBs might get taken in the first round.
The Redskins will not take a wide receiver in the first round.
Don't close the door on Josh Rosen landing in the NFC East.
These are thoughts. Not necessarily predictions, but much effort has been exerted in obtaining the information that went into these ideas.

Stay. Tuned. It's going to be wild.

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Disturbing news, I don't think I could take them delaying the draft:

[URL="https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/could-the-nfl-draft-be-delayed-by-bad-weather/ar-BBWgL5T?li=BBnb7Kz"]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/could-the-nfl-draft-be-delayed-by-bad-weather/ar-BBWgL5T?li=BBnb7Kz[/URL]

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I wouldn’t hate Lindstrom at 15, depends on who else is there too of course.


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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1221847]Disturbing news, I don't think I could take them delaying the draft:

[URL="https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/could-the-nfl-draft-be-delayed-by-bad-weather/ar-BBWgL5T?li=BBnb7Kz"]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/could-the-nfl-draft-be-delayed-by-bad-weather/ar-BBWgL5T?li=BBnb7Kz[/URL][/quote]

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[quote=MTK;1221850]I wouldn’t hate Lindstrom at 15, depends on who else is there too of course.


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I’ve been saying trading down and picking up a G would solidify our OL just like our DL. We can get an extra pick in the 2nd or 3rd and address other areas of need.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1221842]Did you really mean that? We are talking about a team with Daniel Snyder as the overly meddling owner and Bruce Allen as his right hand man.[/quote]

Point taken...lol

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1221842]Did you really mean that? We are talking about a team with Daniel Snyder as the overly meddling owner and Bruce Allen as his right hand man.[/quote]

Point taken...it would seem after McCloughan taught them how to draft they would have learned a lot after the Robert Griffin debacle....but it just wouldn't surpise me at all if they are insane enough to make a foolish trade like that...

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IDK guys. The more I read, hear and think about it, I would not at all be shocked if Washington moved up to the 4 spot in a trade with Chucky. To get ahead of the G-Men at 6 and pick Haskins.

I keep thinking about how much cap the team has allocated to the QB position, and the only sensible approach it to take a QB in round 1, which gives you five years to build around him on a cheap contract.

Just makes sense to me is all. I still think Haskins is the top QB in this draft and I hope you guys get him.

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Not a fan of Haskins at all

I’d fucking hate trading up for him


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[quote=sandtrapjack;1221858]IDK guys. The more I read, hear and think about it, I would not at all be shocked if Washington moved up to the 4 spot in a trade with Chucky. To get ahead of the G-Men at 6 and pick Haskins.

I keep thinking about how much cap the team has allocated to the QB position, and the only sensible approach it to take a QB in round 1, which gives you five years to build around him on a cheap contract.

Just makes sense to me is all. I still think Haskins is the top QB in this draft and I hope you guys get him.[/quote]

Yes, it makes perfect sense trading up 11 spots and giving up massive draft capital to draft a guy who hasn't even looked that impressive.

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Twitter has been intolerable the last 24 hours and continues today with the wild speculation and flat out bullshit flying around


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[QUOTE=MTK;1221859]Not a fan of Haskins at all

I’d fucking hate trading up for him


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I don't want to trade up at all. I'd rather trade down and grab Grier late 1 and add a 2nd.

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[quote=mooby;1221860]Yes, it makes perfect sense trading up 11 spots and giving up massive draft capital to draft a guy who hasn't even looked that impressive.[/quote]

If they were to do something that retarded I would give up on this bum ass team completely. Didn't Dan and Bruce learn anything from the RG3 trade?

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[quote=MTK;1221861]Twitter has been intolerable the last 24 hours and continues today with the wild speculation and flat out bullshit flying around


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I don't do Twitter, problem solved. All the BS will be over soon anyway. It gets real tonight.

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I’d punt on QB this year. Load up everywhere else. This QB class outside of Murray is mediocre at best.


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[QUOTE=MTK;1221875]I’d punt on QB this year. Load up everywhere else. This QB class outside of Murray is mediocre at best.


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So many roster holes.

We will probably have a high pick in the 1st round next year.

Rich qb class next year.

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[quote=MTK;1221875]I’d punt on QB this year. Load up everywhere else. This QB class outside of Murray is mediocre at best.


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I agree with this 100% - the only QB that is not Murray that I would not oppose to is trading for Rosen for our 2nd round pick or lower. If I'm in charge, I want Redskins to focus on strengthen whole team for long run term.

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[quote=GridIron26;1221878]I agree with this 100% - the only QB that is not Murray that I would not oppose to is trading for [B]Rosen for our 2nd round pick [/B]or lower. If I'm in charge, I want Redskins to focus on strengthen whole team for long run term.[/quote]

This is by far my first choice with the QB position this year.

But ive been saying it, QB class next year is balls deep in talent.

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[quote=MTK;1221875]I’d punt on QB this year. Load up everywhere else. This QB class outside of Murray is mediocre at best.


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Confucius say "Small pebbles cant make big ripple, but big boulder make big splash to blind the eyes of Redskins fan."


Shit Im most tired of this week: "Did you know that Dan Snyder’s son went to high school near Dwayne Haskins when he grew up here?"

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My vote would be to load up on D since this draft is so deep on defense. OLB, ILB, and S are real needs and there are some good options. We could be selective at G, TE, and WR if high rated players end up slipping to our selection spot. I certainly would not trade picks to move up -- we're just not close enough to being a real contender for that to make sense.

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[quote=MTK;1221875]I’d punt on QB this year. Load up everywhere else. This QB class outside of Murray is mediocre at best.


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There is no way we can do that. We have to draft someone. The Redskins need to get back to drafting a QB just about every year, like in the old days.

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Ever notice how the national media - the ones aligned with ESPN and the NFL Network - are the ones breaking the most bombastic rumors on Twitter? They have us calling about moving up in the draft, they have us fixated on certain quarterbacks, etc.

But the local guys - JP Finlay in particular - keeps saying they're likely to stick at 15 and take an edge rusher unless a QB falls to them.

Hmm... I wonder why the national outlets who SHOW THE DRAFT ON TV would want to see interest piqued? Can't have anything to do with ratings, can it?

Lying season doesn't just apply to coaches and GMs. Consider the sources for all convenient leaks that just so happen to come out during draft week.

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[quote=Schneed10;1221885]Ever notice how the national media - the ones aligned with ESPN and the NFL Network - are the ones breaking the most bombastic rumors on Twitter? They have us calling about moving up in the draft, they have us fixated on certain quarterbacks, etc.

But the local guys - JP Finlay in particular - keeps saying they're likely to stick at 15 and take an edge rusher unless a QB falls to them.

Hmm... I wonder why the national outlets who SHOW THE DRAFT ON TV would want to see interest piqued? Can't have anything to do with ratings, can it?

Lying season doesn't just apply to coaches and GMs. Consider the sources for all convenient leaks that just so happen to come out during draft week.[/quote]

Good point.

I can see them moving up a couple, but not into the top 5. My money is on the either staying put or moving back and ending up with Jones.

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[quote=MTK;1221875]I’d punt on QB this year. Load up everywhere else. This QB class outside of Murray is mediocre at best.


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Same here. I think all the QB talk is just smoke and mirrors to see if AZ would lower their price for Rosen. I would prefer for them to stay at 15 and take a stud EDGE guy or trade back a bit and get extra picks to get more help in other areas.

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Cooley on Sheenhan Podcast today is fucking killing Haskins as a terrible QB and goes after OSU excuse for weak Pro-style scheme.

Haskins benefited greatly as OSU has 3 NFL WR and a stout Oline.

FYI Parris Campbell is a monster.

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[quote=Schneed10;1221885]Ever notice how the national media - the ones aligned with ESPN and the NFL Network - are the ones breaking the most bombastic rumors on Twitter? They have us calling about moving up in the draft, they have us fixated on certain quarterbacks, etc.

But the local guys - JP Finlay in particular - keeps saying they're likely to stick at 15 and take an edge rusher unless a QB falls to them.

Hmm... I wonder why the national outlets who SHOW THE DRAFT ON TV would want to see interest piqued? Can't have anything to do with ratings, can it?

Lying season doesn't just apply to coaches and GMs. Consider the sources for all convenient leaks that just so happen to come out during draft week.[/quote]

Good point, I thought the same thing when I looked at NFL.com earlier and saw, "Sweat heart condition may have been misdiagnosed at combine."...

There's no definitive call being made, it's being released the day of the draft..

To me, it's either a late attempt from his agent to hopefully make sure Sweat's condition doesn't cause him to fall too far OR it's like you said, big-box media drumming up interest.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1221885]Ever notice how the national media - the ones aligned with ESPN and the NFL Network - are the ones breaking the most bombastic rumors on Twitter? They have us calling about moving up in the draft, they have us fixated on certain quarterbacks, etc.



But the local guys - JP Finlay in particular - keeps saying they're likely to stick at 15 and take an edge rusher unless a QB falls to them.



Hmm... I wonder why the national outlets who SHOW THE DRAFT ON TV would want to see interest piqued? Can't have anything to do with ratings, can it?



Lying season doesn't just apply to coaches and GMs. Consider the sources for all convenient leaks that just so happen to come out during draft week.[/QUOTE]



I was just about to post something along these lines, the national peeps can fuck right off, all they’re doing right now is creating drama. Stay with the local beat guys, they know what’s really up.



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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1221884]There is no way we can do that. We have to draft someone. The Redskins need to get back to drafting a QB just about every year, like in the old days.[/QUOTE]



I’m fine with a later round developmental guy, I just wouldn’t waste a day 1 or 2 pick on a guy that’s going to sit all year.



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[quote=MTK;1221893]I’m fine with a later round developmental guy, I just wouldn’t waste a day 1 or 2 pick on a guy that’s going to sit all year.



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Agreed, if we go QB before round 4, they better start.

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I listened to Cooley. I have to say I totally disagree with him about Haskins. You just don't have that kind of production against good competition and not be a baller. I wanted to ask Cooley did he watch the Michigan game? Northwestern or Washington? If so then how in the world did he come to his conclusion? It makes no sense. The stuff about his footwork also makes no sense. The guy works the pocket and actually steps up in the pocket. He also rolls out to both sides.

IDK if we should draft Haskins at 15. But I just don't see what Cooley is seeing. I see a guy in Haskins who would be the first pick in the draft if he stayed another year.

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[quote=MTK;1221892]I was just about to post something along these lines, the national peeps can fuck right off, all they’re doing right now is creating drama. Stay with the local beat guys, they know what’s really up.



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And even with some local guys, like Chris Russell or Grant Paulsen, like to create drama as well.

To me, if a piece of news that I hear doesn't come from JP Findlay, John Keim, or Craig Hoffman, I'm going to take it with a grain of salt.