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[quote=Chico23231;1275949]I’m just glad everyone is on the same page that shooting unarmed rioters as well as unarmed criminal is ok.

Took awhile to get there, but glad we made it![/quote]


chico you are as ignorant as trump. They killed a Capital Police Officer with a fire extinguisher , read the link it will tell you some were armed. Again you seem to have trouble with facts.

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[quote=mooby;1275935]G1 relax. I'm sure she was happy dying knowing that her death helped own the libs. What a patriot. So brave. And I'm sure all the people who trampled her to death would do it as many times as it would take to save America from the liberal traitors.[/quote]

What is sad is people like chico make fun of the deaths all for the sake of trying to make trump look good .

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[quote=Chico23231;1275949]I’m just glad everyone is on the same page that shooting unarmed rioters as well as unarmed criminal is ok.

Took awhile to get there, but glad we made it![/quote]

Well the unarmed rioter was hanging out with other rioters who were stabbing officers in the eye and pulling off their facemasks so they'd be exposed to tear gas, not to mention crossing the last line of defense with lawmakers who were standing 50 feet away, so I really don't have any sympathy for her or anyone else who died while trying to take over the Capitol.

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FFS what a snowflake

[URL="https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/03/qanon-shaman-organic-food-465563"]‘QAnon shaman’ granted organic food in jail after report of deteriorating health[/URL]

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It was only a matter of time before someone called it a hoax :doh:

[URL="https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966207859/michigans-top-republican-calls-u-s-capitol-attack-a-hoax"]Michigan's Top Republican Calls U.S. Capitol Attack A 'Hoax'[/URL]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1277113]It was only a matter of time before someone called it a hoax :doh:



[URL="https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966207859/michigans-top-republican-calls-u-s-capitol-attack-a-hoax"]Michigan's Top Republican Calls U.S. Capitol Attack A 'Hoax'[/URL][/QUOTE]



The right isn’t even the party of Trump it is the party of stupid.
The end.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1275949]I’m just glad everyone is on the same page that shooting unarmed rioters as well as unarmed criminal is ok.



Took awhile to get there, but glad we made it![/QUOTE]



No. Nobody made it anywhere except you to the summit of Mt Misinformed.

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[quote=punch it in;1277130]The right isn’t even the party of Trump it is the party of stupid.
The end.[/quote]

Well, glad this debate is finally settled. Lovely 1st post to wake-up too. Good morning Warpathers!

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1277134]Well, glad this debate is finally settled. Lovely 1st post to wake-up too. Good morning Warpathers![/QUOTE]



The right has allowed Trump and the conspiracy theorists to dictate its every move. Is what it is. The right was not always the party of stupid but it has allowed this to happen.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1277134]Well, glad this debate is finally settled. Lovely 1st post to wake-up too. Good morning Warpathers![/quote]

If it makes you feel any better sd, you and cred are the exception.

But in the same way Chico sees AOC as a nut for wanting a living wage for all Americans, or healthcare that doesn't bankrupt everyone except the rich, we see people like Michigan Senator Mike Shirkey in the same way.

When someone prominent uses his/her platform to endorse absolutely insane conspiracy theories, like Shirkey, or Boebert/MGT, you have two choices. You either condemn it, or you're endorsing it. Even if you're silent on it it's still looked at as endorsing it because you aren't speaking up against it.

What purpose does calling an attack with hundreds of clips of video evidence, cell phone data pinpointing extremists at the Capitol, and people who were there witnessing it, a hoax?

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[IMG]https://i.redd.it/a7x0gmtonng61.jpg[/IMG]

I'd also like to add the only time Trump doesn't love to talk is when he's under oath. Why is that exactly?

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Doesnt this impeachment (which will not end with impeachment) just continue to give oxygen to the far right nut jobs.

"Big protest january 6, be there it will be wild" trump tweet

"Lets have a trial by combat!" - gulliani at the protest before they marched on the capitol

I dont know. There needs to be more of a direct connection imo. I thinks its to early honestly.

We know the trump campaign financed a big chunk of the protest, did they know the protestors would break into the capitol?

Did that rep Goelbert really give a tour a day before to people who then stormed the capitol?

Were the emergency buttons rely ripped out of dem offices before the storming?

Did some capitol police work with the stormers?

Why werent there more security?

Whose call was it to have paper thin security when everyone in the country sitting at home knew shit was going to hit the fan.

No way the Dems and investigations have completed their work. And if they did complete their work .. it sounds like all my questions above came back as a no. Either its too early or they found nothing and am going on some Trump incited the riot by indirect influence and words of encouragement.

Really? impeachment over some indirect encouragement? need more than that. Need concrete hidden connections and emails showing trump knew rioters would challenge the capitol.

otherwise .. just let all that Q Anon nonsense die down. Let the country heal. move on to boring politics.
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edit - gulliani is an absolute traitor piece of shit that needs to get his face smashed in. he must be going through dementia.

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[quote=mooby;1277148]If it makes you feel any better sd, you and cred are the exception.

But in the same way Chico sees AOC as a nut for wanting a living wage for all Americans, or healthcare that doesn't bankrupt everyone except the rich, we see people like Michigan Senator Mike Shirkey in the same way.

When someone prominent uses his/her platform to endorse absolutely insane conspiracy theories, like Shirkey, or Boebert/MGT, you have two choices. You either condemn it, or you're endorsing it. Even if you're silent on it it's still looked at as endorsing it because you aren't speaking up against it.

What purpose does calling an attack with hundreds of clips of video evidence, cell phone data pinpointing extremists at the Capitol, and people who were there witnessing it, a hoax?[/quote]

Anyone that went to the capitol, supported people that went, condoned it, talked about it in any positive light, etc. should slap themselves.

I never heard of this guy, he can go fuck himself. This does nothing but make things worse.

I hate hoaxers as a general statement (unless its about the moonlanding, ahh fuck it, I hate myself too).

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[quote=mooby;1277150]I'd also like to add the only time Trump doesn't love to talk is when he's under oath. Why is that exactly?[/quote]

I wouldn't testify either if I was him, unless somehow legally forced to.

[IMG]https://media0.giphy.com/media/KlQR5d0ayEYsE/200.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1277154]I wouldn't testify either if I was him, unless somehow legally forced to.

[IMG]https://media0.giphy.com/media/KlQR5d0ayEYsE/200.gif[/IMG][/quote]

:laughing-

Love the sig btw.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1277154]I wouldn't testify either if I was him, unless somehow legally forced to.

[IMG]https://media0.giphy.com/media/KlQR5d0ayEYsE/200.gif[/IMG][/quote]

The right to be quiet. The framers screwed up with that one. It should have been the first amendment.

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All these MF'ers being charged better get the book thrown at them. That shaman douchebag, the genius with his foot up on Pelosi's desk thinking he was king of the world, I hope they rot in prison.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1277163]All these MF'ers being charged better get the book thrown at them. That shaman douchebag, the genius with his foot up on Pelosi's desk thinking he was king of the world, I hope they rot in prison.[/QUOTE]



Yup.... though the death penalty would save us a few bucks. Thats not very liberal of me though. Lol.

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Whenever I see the videos of Jan 6th get more angry. The fucking straight up stupidity of these savages is alarming. These people are uneducated and are about as cultured as my toenail. They are the type of people that rarely left their two bit shit hole towns. I wish the cops started shooting to be honest. They're so stupid that if Trump told them to eat their own shit they'd do it.

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aww poor baby

[URL="https://news.yahoo.com/man-pictured-feet-pelosis-desk-190639419.html"]Man pictured with feet on Pelosi's desk yells at judge: "It's not fair"[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1278535]aww poor baby

[URL="https://news.yahoo.com/man-pictured-feet-pelosis-desk-190639419.html"]Man pictured with feet on Pelosi's desk yells at judge: "It's not fair"[/URL][/quote]

He's right though, it isn't fair. Everybody who stormed the capitol is getting arrested and charged with serious crimes, the guy and his cronies who incited the riot aren't even being hit with any crime.

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I guess we can thank Trump for the inevitable fence put up around the Capitol. Thanks Trump.

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sweeping-capitol-security-recommendations-include-retractable-fence-more-officers-and-body-worn-cameras/ar-BB1eniXh?ocid=hplocalnews[/url]

[quote=WUSA9]
There were questions and concerns surrounding the lack of assistance early in the insurrection. As a result, the recommendations included the USCP chief not needing the board's approval to request access for assistance from the National Guard. [B]Additionally, the commanding general of the DC National Guard should have "emergency authority...in extraordinary emergency circumstances where prior authorization by the President is impossible[/B]..." USCP should also develop a plan for employing outside law enforcement in accordance to the National Incident Management System, according to the report.
[/quote]

Is he talking about extraordinary emergency circumstances where the POTUS encourages his supporters to go show the GOP how tough they are?

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[quote=mooby;1278696]I guess we can thank Trump for the inevitable fence put up around the Capitol. Thanks Trump.

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sweeping-capitol-security-recommendations-include-retractable-fence-more-officers-and-body-worn-cameras/ar-BB1eniXh?ocid=hplocalnews[/url]



Is he talking about extraordinary emergency circumstances where the POTUS encourages his supporters to go show the GOP how tough they are?[/quote]

[IMG]https://i.imgflip.com/4lpb5t.jpg[/IMG]

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[URL="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-disinformation/half-of-republicans-believe-false-accounts-of-deadly-u-s-capitol-riot-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN2BS0RZ"]Half of Republicans believe false accounts of deadly U.S. Capitol riot: Reuters/Ipsos poll[/URL]

So basically half of Republicans are morons

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[QUOTE=MTK;1280903][URL="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-disinformation/half-of-republicans-believe-false-accounts-of-deadly-u-s-capitol-riot-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN2BS0RZ"]Half of Republicans believe false accounts of deadly U.S. Capitol riot: Reuters/Ipsos poll[/URL]



So basically half of Republicans are morons[/QUOTE]



I will respond for Chico. Do you know what the far left deep state and CNN and G-1 and you and Mooby and me and Any person of color and their pets and BLM believe? The opposite of what this says plus the opposite of what other people believe. Therefore if you multiply that by the square root of the amout of yards RG-3 would have rushed for if he stayed healthy if Hillary didn’t delete those emails than you would see the truth!

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January 6th was terrible...but the politicization later is what people despise. The eye rolling of AOC bullshit acts like gop almost got me killed or I was buildings away but feared for my life. When orgs and media give time to that, it’s exhausting.

I was reading the other day, most folks who are charged...no jail time and no felonies.

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[quote=Chico23231;1280914]January 6th was terrible...but the politicization later is what people despise. The eye rolling of AOC bullshit acts like gop almost got me killed or I was buildings away but feared for my life. When orgs and media give time to that, it’s exhausting.

I was reading the other day, most folks who are charged...no jail time and no felonies.[/quote]

Lets be honest, if they were people in that crowd willing to beat cops to death just to get inside, if they had reached AOC no doubt they would've battered her half to death at minimum. Sure, you wouldn't have done anything. But you don't have to speak for your fellow party patriots.

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[quote=mooby;1280929]Lets be honest, if they were people in that crowd willing to beat cops to death just to get inside, if they had reached AOC no doubt they would've battered her half to death at minimum. Sure, you wouldn't have done anything. But you don't have to speak for your fellow party patriots.[/quote]

Her using that hypothetical to score cheap political points works apparently.

When is she going to the border to pull her fake crying stunt again?

It’s really quite amazing to see kids in cages again and seeing the silence from you and others here. Peak bullshit y’all sling

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[quote=Chico23231;1280938]Her using that hypothetical to score cheap political points works apparently.

When is she going to the border to pull her fake crying stunt again?

It’s really quite amazing to see [B]kids in cages again[/B] and seeing the silence from you and others here. Peak bullshit y’all sling[/quote]

I disagree with it, my stance hasn't changed.

I also acknowledge the situation is unlikely to change unless immigration reform happens, which is anyone's guess if it actually happens.

Not sure what more you're looking for here.

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silence lol, didn't realize we're supposed to talk about every single damn thing going on in the world otherwise we're somehow ignoring it, just bring something up if you want to talk about it

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1280914]January 6th was terrible...but the politicization later is what people despise. The eye rolling of AOC bullshit acts like gop almost got me killed or I was buildings away but feared for my life. When orgs and media give time to that, it’s exhausting.



I was reading the other day, most folks who are charged...no jail time and no felonies.[/QUOTE]



No Chico. What is despised is that the former president and his gang of lunatics attempted a coup and he walked away. AOC rolls her eyes after she almost got captured by said lunatics and that is what bothers you? Holy shit man.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1280938]Her using that hypothetical to score cheap political points works apparently.



When is she going to the border to pull her fake crying stunt again?



It’s really quite amazing to see kids in cages again and seeing the silence from you and others here. Peak bullshit y’all sling[/QUOTE]



Kids are not being taken from their parents you numbskull. They are being held and we are trying to do things the legal way. If we let them go you would be screaming about future gang members getting government assistance. Take your crap ass spin and sit on it.

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[quote=punch it in;1280944]Kids are not being taken from their parents you numbskull. They are being held and we are trying to do things the legal way. If we let them go you would be screaming about future gang members getting government assistance. Take your crap ass spin and sit on it.[/quote]

Lol...see this? Goal post moving.

The receipts are the weapons against miss information like this opinion.

Wall Contruction at the southern border is back:

[url]https://amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/apr/5/dhs-may-restart-border-wall-construction-plug-gaps/?__twitter_impression=true[/url]

Also the wall building is back as “plug holes”...you can’t make this stuff up. Kids in cages is now “doing it the legal way”?? And wall building (or the correct way of saying it securing the border against illegals, human traffickers who sexual assault, drug and gun runners as well as terrorists) is now “ plugging holes”.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1280950]Lol...see this? Goal post moving.



The receipts are the weapons against miss information like this opinion.



Wall Contruction at the southern border is back:



[url]https://amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/apr/5/dhs-may-restart-border-wall-construction-plug-gaps/?__twitter_impression=true[/url]



Also the wall building is back as “plug holes”...you can’t make this stuff up. Kids in cages is now “doing it the legal way”?? And wall building (or the correct way of saying it securing the border against illegals, human traffickers who sexual assault, drug and gun runners as well as terrorists) is now “ plugging holes”.[/QUOTE]



Nobody is moving the goalposts. You mentioned kids in cages. I am pointing out the difference between Trump ripping them from their parents. Every single thing you say is to take heat off what your God did for four years by comparison. Yet you never had a problem during your Gods reign with any of it. There is a right way and a wrong way to get things done. Now that things are being done the right way you are up in arms. It is laughable. The other problem is 85% of what you say is absolute horseshit. There was always fence being built at the southern border Chico. Long before your God had what he thought was a brilliant idea - Just not to the tune of 60 kazillion dollars like dipshit wanted. You are the only one moving goalposts. Btw the majority of terrorists we need to worry about are your maga brethren who already live among us.

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[quote=MTK;1280940]silence lol, didn't realize we're supposed to talk about every single damn thing going on in the world otherwise we're somehow ignoring it, just bring something up if you want to talk about it[/quote]

This is the part that is frustrating. But when you think about it, it's completely understandable.

You're (every person here including myself) just way less likely to bring up negative issues about someone or the party you generally support. It's just human condition. And you're way more likely to point out issues of the people you don't support. And there are more liberals here than conservatives, which makes sense based on where the team is located. So as a conservative, me expecting most of you to come in here and bash BIden, AOC, etc. on a regular basis is simply not realistic. But it still gets frustrating. Damn brain is weird. I know the reasons, but still don't always accept them.

Below isn't a direct response to you, just a general comment about the border:

NO ONE WANTS KIDS IN CAGES! It didn't put a smile on my face when it was happening under Trump and it doesn't now. But there are no easy answers to how to handle thousands and thousands of people coming across our border regularly. We need to deter people from coming here illegally and work on upgrading the legal immigration process. Until people feel their chances of getting here and staying are way less than their chances of being arrested and sent back, people will continue to come. Why wouldn't they? They're just playing the math.

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[quote=punch it in;1280956]Nobody is moving the goalposts. You mentioned kids in cages. I am pointing out the difference between Trump ripping them from their parents. Every single thing you say is to take heat off what your God did for four years by comparison. Yet you never had a problem during your Gods reign with any of it. There is a right way and a wrong way to get things done. Now that things are being done the right way you are up in arms. It is laughable. The other problem is 85% of what you say is absolute horseshit. There was always fence being built at the southern border Chico. Long before your God had what he thought was a brilliant idea - Just not to the tune of 60 kazillion dollars like dipshit wanted. You are the only one moving goalposts. Btw the majority of terrorists we need to worry about are your maga brethren who already live among us.[/quote]

Trump ripping them from parents? Laughable. I guess Obama ripped them as well...since the same policy as Obama admitted?

Kids in cages is the right way now? This is exactly the criticism from the left previously and the goal post moving. Unaccompanied minors placed in holding cells were kids in cages Punch. Period, end of story. That’s the original frame. Stick with it, don’t change the scope aka move goal post.

Same as building the wall which Biden is now considering. A wall is a wall.

I know it’s hard to deal with receipts

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1280958]This is the part that is frustrating. But when you think about it, it's completely understandable.

You're (every person here including myself) just way less likely to bring up negative issues about someone or the party you generally support. It's just human condition. And you're way more likely to point out issues of the people you don't support. And there are more liberals here than conservatives, which makes sense based on where the team is located. So as a conservative, me expecting most of you to come in here and bash BIden, AOC, etc. on a regular basis is simply not realistic. But it still gets frustrating. Damn brain is weird. I know the reasons, but still don't always accept them.

Below isn't a direct response to you, just a general comment about the border:

NO ONE WANTS KIDS IN CAGES! It didn't put a smile on my face when it was happening under Trump and it doesn't now. But there are no easy answers to how to handle thousands and thousands of people coming across our border regularly. We need to deter people from coming here illegally and work on upgrading the legal immigration process. Until people feel their chances of getting here and staying are way less than their chances of being arrested and sent back, people will continue to come. Why wouldn't they? They're just playing the math.[/quote]

If they jump the wall they should be sent back immediately. Your first instinct coming into this country is to do it the right way, not break the law.

People should do it the right way.

Biden effed all this up when he told folks to come and surge towards the border while running for president.

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[quote=Chico23231;1280962]If they jump the wall they should be sent back immediately. Your first instinct coming into this country is to do it the right way, not break the law.

People should do it the right way.

[B]Biden effed all this up when he told folks to come and surge towards the border while running for president[/B].[/quote]

Proof? If he spoke it, surely there's a video of it somewhere.

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[quote=mooby;1280968]Proof? If he spoke it, surely there's a video of it somewhere.[/quote]

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/columns/john-kass/ct-prem-biden-border-crisis-john-kass-20210324-s6nxh76uofgs3n53xtxcmdpjty-story.html%3foutputType=amp[/url]

Column: Biden called for the border surge. And now he owns it.

From the article, he said it at the debate on tv:

Ramos: “Are you prepared to say tonight that you and President (Barack) Obama made a mistake (on deportations)? Why should Latinos trust you?”
Biden answered by criticizing Donald Trump’s handling of migrants at the border, defending Obama’s, and adding:


I [B]would in fact make sure that there is, that we immediately surge to the border — all those people are seeking asylum. [/B]They deserve to be heard,” Biden said. “That’s who we are. We’re a nation that says, ‘[B]If you want to flee and you’re fleeing oppression, you should come.’”[/B]


Biden, you dropped this receipt for your crisis

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1280958]This is the part that is frustrating. But when you think about it, it's completely understandable.

You're (every person here including myself) just way less likely to bring up negative issues about someone or the party you generally support. It's just human condition. And you're way more likely to point out issues of the people you don't support. And there are more liberals here than conservatives, which makes sense based on where the team is located. So as a conservative, me expecting most of you to come in here and bash BIden, AOC, etc. on a regular basis is simply not realistic. But it still gets frustrating. Damn brain is weird. I know the reasons, but still don't always accept them.

Below isn't a direct response to you, just a general comment about the border:

NO ONE WANTS KIDS IN CAGES! It didn't put a smile on my face when it was happening under Trump and it doesn't now. But there are no easy answers to how to handle thousands and thousands of people coming across our border regularly. We need to deter people from coming here illegally and work on upgrading the legal immigration process. Until people feel their chances of getting here and staying are way less than their chances of being arrested and sent back, people will continue to come. Why wouldn't they? They're just playing the math.[/quote]

Definitely understandable, also since this is a football forum that's what we mainly talk about. I look at a forum like this as a fun distraction, but I'm not going to sit here and discuss every news headline of the day and I don't expect anyone else to either.