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[quote=Ruhskins;1275780]One of the best news of the offseason. Coach Rivera is officially cancer-free:

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/ron-riveras-daughter-courtney-announces-head-coach-cancer-free[/url][/quote]

That's beyond awesome ! Such an inspirational story.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1275835]That's beyond awesome ! Such an inspirational story.[/quote]

Ron Rivera is just what this franchise needed. Literally the perfect man for the job we needed done.

He defeated cancer. Awesome under any circumstance. But he coached our team to the playoffs like as a side job. Yeah, our division was down, but fuck that, we made the damn playoffs and had a chance to defeat the GOAT.

Rivera is a stud for a lot of reasons. Beat cancer 99.99% important, and changed our teams culture, the other 00.01%.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1275836]Ron Rivera is just what this franchise needed. Literally the perfect man for the job we needed done.



He defeated cancer. Awesome under any circumstance. But he coached our team to the playoffs like as a side job. Yeah, our division was down, but fuck that, we made the damn playoffs and had a chance to defeat the GOAT.



Rivera is a stud for a lot of reasons. Beat cancer 99.99% important, and changed our teams culture, the other 00.01%.[/QUOTE]Yop, and the combination of both + coaching while under treatment makes it even greater.

Some decision making have been, and I guess will be, questionable, but I'll take the culture change and leadership over perfect game clock management.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1274912]Gets fired from his job for partying with nasty strippers in a pandemic...posts Bible verses.

I am not the Judge and if he actually did turn his life around and found God that quickly, that's awesome, but it's just an odd post considering circumstances. He has a track record of immaturity.

Anyways, good luck, kid...hope you turn everything around on and of the field.

I don't think he can beat out Josh Dobbs or even Duck Hodges for third-string QB if he comes back to town.[/quote]

Why exactly is it awesome for a grown man to have ab imaginary friend?

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Per JLC's twitter, Ravens' Orlando Brown wants to play left tackle and might put in a request to be traded. We should look into this if Brown is available for trade.

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[quote=GridIron26;1275977]Per JLC's twitter, Ravens' Orlando Brown wants to play left tackle and might put in a request to be traded. We should look into this if Brown is available for trade.[/quote]

This all about money wanting to get paid...pass

Social media has become a tool for small minded athletes...mental midgets. Don’t need them here.

A man handle things the right way...he ain’t a man but a lil bitch

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Does anyone have a handle on how the salary cap will effect the rest of the league?

Isn't is something like 20 million less than last year's cap?

If that's the case, we're sitting pretty where we are. It would seem to me to be an excellent opportunity to scoop up a bunch of pretty good players who will be victims of the numbers most of the league will have to deal with, as they struggle to get down to the salary cap figure.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1275994]Does anyone have a handle on how the salary cap will effect the rest of the league?

Isn't is something like 20 million less than last year's cap?

If that's the case, we're sitting pretty where we are. It would seem to me to be an excellent opportunity to scoop up a bunch of pretty good players who will be victims of the numbers most of the league will have to deal with, as they struggle to get down to the salary cap figure.[/quote]

Go to Overthecap.com and you can see. About half the teams are in the red right now. That said, most of our competition for big FA plays (WR LB QB) are in good shape like us. Particularly the Colts, Jets and Patriots all who have 20-30 Million more than we do right now

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1275998]Go to Overthecap.com and you can see. About half the teams are in the red right now. That said, most of our competition for big FA plays (WR LB QB) are in good shape like us. Particularly the Colts, Jets and Patriots all who have 20-30 Million more than we do right now[/quote]


Thanks ....

So .... real quick ... your opinion .... does that mean we won't be able to pick up a handful of good players who will be looking for a spot because their team had to get down to the salary cap?


EDIT - man, it'd suck to be the Iggles. hahaha

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1275999]Thanks ....

So .... real quick ... your opinion .... does that mean we won't be able to pick up a handful of good players who will be looking for a spot because their team had to get down to the salary cap?[/quote]

Maybe, but our own experience (and the Eagles a year or two ago) shows that teams know how to make the cap work, and most players are going to understand that too.

The ones that do get released will be the hot commodities, and there are still 18 teams that have money to grab a player here or there.

I think we will swing at Robinson and a QB. I hope it makes Scherff's deal more manageable for us though.

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[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30835160/doug-williams-promoted-senior-advisor-washington-football-team-president-jason-wright"]Doug Williams promoted to senior adviser to Washington Football Team president Jason Wright[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1276647][URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30835160/doug-williams-promoted-senior-advisor-washington-football-team-president-jason-wright"]Doug Williams promoted to senior adviser to Washington Football Team president Jason Wright[/URL][/quote]

Maybe it's just me being cynical but this looks like a "what can we do with Doug?" type move.

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[quote=davy;1276648]Maybe it's just me being cynical but this looks like a "what can we do with Doug?" type move.[/quote]

Better than how certain legends were treated in the front office in the past. Like Bobby Mitchell.

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[QUOTE=davy;1276648]Maybe it's just me being cynical but this looks like a "what can we do with Doug?" type move.[/QUOTE]Given the purge of FO from the BA era, it says something that he was not simply let go.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1276652]Given the purge of FO from the BA era, it says something that he was not simply let go.

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Agreed. Think he would maybe do some good leading an upstart Alumni program since that's an area we haven't done well in recently.

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You know, and I said this earlier, I like the Washington Football Team. The one thing that resonates in this name change, the biggest thing that resonates? Washington. So at the end of the day, if it remains what it is, I’m alright,"

Doug Williams

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1276691]You know, and I said this earlier, I like the Washington Football Team. The one thing that resonates in this name change, the biggest thing that resonates? Washington. So at the end of the day, if it remains what it is, I’m alright,"

Doug Williams[/QUOTE]Fire him

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Matt Verderame
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Per source, the Arizona Cardinals and former All-Pro cornerback Patrick Peterson are parting ways barring a significant change in stances.

Peterson, 30, has enjoyed eight Pro Bowl and three First-Team All-Pro campaigns since being selected No. 5 overall in the 2011 Draft.

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We need a CB1 and hed be an upgrade over our current talent but idk id probably pass at any cost honestly. Seems like an nnamdi Asomugha situation.

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[quote=MTK;1276649]Better than how certain legends were treated in the front office in the past. Like Bobby Mitchell.[/quote]

Mitchell very well could and should have been the GM over Casserly but Cooke passed him over and never gave him a reason. Then his number was given out to a backup TE under Spurrier.

But w/ Doug it just seems like they're keeping him around because it would be a real bad PR move to let him go.

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[quote=SunnySide;1276957]Matt Verderame
@MattVerderame
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Per source, the Arizona Cardinals and former All-Pro cornerback Patrick Peterson are parting ways barring a significant change in stances.

Peterson, 30, has enjoyed eight Pro Bowl and three First-Team All-Pro campaigns since being selected No. 5 overall in the 2011 Draft.

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We need a CB1 and hed be an upgrade over our current talent but idk id probably pass at any cost honestly. Seems like an nnamdi Asomugha situation.[/quote]

Do not want old aging cornerback past his prime. He can still probably play but not a good fit for this team.

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RIP Marty

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30866875/nfl-coaching-legend-marty-schottenheimer-dies-77[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;1276996]RIP Marty

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30866875/nfl-coaching-legend-marty-schottenheimer-dies-77[/url][/quote]

Sad news, he was DS's best coaching hire.

RIP

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Figured it wasn't going to be long after the news last week. RIP Marty. Great coach and from all accounts an even better man.

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Marty firing = Snyder's worst football related fuck-up

Whenever the word hospice pops up, very bad news is typically right around the corner.

RIP Marty!

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Today feels like the day some actual WFT news happens. I don't know why, maybe just my boredom.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1276996]RIP Marty

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30866875/nfl-coaching-legend-marty-schottenheimer-dies-77[/url][/quote]

The Washington Post really pissed me off with how they handled the news regarding the passing of Marty.

“Marty Schottenheimer, NFL coach whose teams wilted in the postseason, dies at 77”

Unbelievably inappropriate and insensitive.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1277050]The Washington Post really pissed me off with how they handled the news regarding the passing of Marty.

“Marty Schottenheimer, NFL coach whose teams wilted in the postseason, dies at 77”

Unbelievably inappropriate and insensitive.[/quote]

They've since changed the headline, but yeah, total trash move on their part. Who thought that was a good idea?

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Seriously what I was thinking. Who was like “ok a real good person who everyone respects died after a really sad and public bout with Alzheimer’s , I think ill lead with his ineptitude in the playoffs”. Wow.

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[quote=MTK;1277055]They've since changed the headline, but yeah, total trash move on their part. Who thought that was a good idea?[/quote]

+1

Who wrote that headline, and who signed off on that headline? Fuckin' disgraceful.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1273540]This is huge, Rivera has flipped the program in 1 year:

[I]Morgan Moses: "I'm just happy to be a part of this team and be a part of this culture."

When asked if he's felt like this before, he said, "it's been a long time."[/I]

Next year is gonna be fun.

My off-season dream:

Re-Sign Scherff
Sign Allen Robinson or Kenny Golladay or Chris Godwin[/quote]

The WR decision is interesting.
Bucs just won SB with riches at WR, 1 due to Brady coattails, 2 they drafted, 1 on rookie deal, 1 on long term. Bucs have cap space could conceivably resign Godwin. McLaurin year 3 of 4 year rookie deal next year and may (rightfully) want a new contract by beginning of year 4.
Let's assume we are going to resign McL.
Question is, do we want $30M+ tied up at WR in 2022 and beyond?
I don't know. Not saying yes, not saying know (no, LOL), I don't know totality of picture trying to resign our other home grown talent. Do we want to let Allen or Payne walk in 2022 or 2023 or whenever to sign a WR? Curious to hear what people think. In theory we could afford both, but then you add Scherff, etc., maybe not. Fortunately and unfortunately we don't have a ton of older talent so could be possible to lock up entire DL and FA WR and Scherff etc.

You'd like to hope one of young potential #2s on our roster steps up, but that could be fool's gold.

You have to fill the big 5 leverage positions to contend. There are no shutdown/#1 corners, franchise QBs, franchise LTs available in FA. There are franchise or #1 WRs, so might be smart to grab one. I would tend to want to overpay a bit and get the absolute most elite WR, rather than just the 2nd or 3rd best. We need someone with size opposite McL. Evans is a monster, watching him makes me wish one of our younger guys, bigger ones, had panned out.

Sucks our best OL is at such a low leverage position. We should be resigning a franchise LT or C, not the least important position on OL at RG.

If we sign a WR, then we can draft LT,QB,CB,MLB or FS with top four picks.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1277050]The Washington Post really pissed me off with how they handled the news regarding the passing of Marty.

“Marty Schottenheimer, NFL coach whose teams wilted in the postseason, dies at 77”

Unbelievably inappropriate and insensitive.[/quote]

THE DAN is known to be friends with Bezos.

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[quote=Chico23231;1275987]This all about money wanting to get paid...pass

Social media has become a tool for small minded athletes...mental midgets. Don’t need them here.

A man handle things the right way...he ain’t a man but a lil bitch[/quote]

NO TRADES, LOL.
Build through the draft and sign select FAs.
Draft picks are gold.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1274912]Gets fired from his job for partying with nasty strippers in a pandemic...posts Bible verses.

I am not the Judge and if he actually did turn his life around and found God that quickly, that's awesome, but it's just an odd post considering circumstances. He has a track record of immaturity.

Anyways, good luck, kid...hope you turn everything around on and of the field.

I don't think he can beat out Josh Dobbs or even Duck Hodges for third-string QB if he comes back to town.[/quote]

The Steelers have the long view in mind. They have had Big Ben for 15 years plus and won 2 SBs with him. They understand the value of long-term stability at QB and are looking for the next 10 year+ starter at QB. No one would dispute that Haskins has 1st round talent, he has a live arm and is accurate when he doesn't get lazy with mechanics, but he is a mess mentally in terms of both maturity and the basic intelligence to read Ds. You bring him in, and he has 2 years to get it together. The price is one roster slot, 3rd string QB, if he stops the ridiculousness immediately over short term, with the potential payoff being a long-term franchise QB without spending any draft picks. Can you imagine how Pittsburgh is sitting if Haskins can become even a quality back-up? Much less starter? If Haskins is the Pittsburgh franchise QB in 2023 for the next decade? It is a long shot, but a smart one, given how hard franchise QBs are to find. He takes the roster position of a 6th CB or LB that primarily plays ST.

The mentality is what is telling. The long-term perspective. The Skins were smart for cutting Haskins. It was the right choice. But we need the same long-term perspective when it comes to finding our franchise QB, and not knee-jerk trades.

Man Haskins was a tool. Gift wrapped a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and flushes it down the drain. What a moron. The laziness in game prep was the real killer, and the lack of character to face the media. He doesn't seem to love the game and probably attained success in college without putting in the kind of work a pro QB does in film, preparation, etc. Interesting to see if he is ever willing to put in that kind of work. If you don't love that process, love the game, 20+ hours a week in addition to practice can become quite a grind. The scouts almost certainly told THE DAN this before he picked Haskins anyway.

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[QUOTE=Scalper;1277082]THE DAN is known to be friends with Bezos.[/QUOTE]The Post hates DS, and has no friendship with the WFT.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1277015]Marty firing = Snyder's worst football related fuck-up

Whenever the word hospice pops up, very bad news is typically right around the corner.

RIP Marty![/quote]

RIP indeed.
Now your supposition that Marty firing is worst THE DAN decision could spark some fun debate. Hiring Allen? Keeping Allen? Hiring Cerrato Ye Dunce? Keeping him? Hiring Zorn? Forcing RGIII trade? I mean firing Marty was dumb, but it is SOOOO hard to rank THE DAN'S dumbest decisions because there have been so many.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1277092]The Post hates DS, and has no friendship with the WFT.

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The Post writers. Not the ownerz.

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[quote=punch it in;1277063]Seriously what I was thinking. Who was like “ok a real good person who everyone respects died after a really sad and public bout with Alzheimer’s , I think ill lead with his ineptitude in the playoffs”. Wow.[/quote]

There is no excuse for this. Everyone involved should be ashamed. People fuck up, so I'm not always gung-ho for a firing. But there is literally not a .0001% reason why that got published.

We all (all sports fans) have more than enough things to argue about, without shitting on sport's legends like Marty.

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Raven's might be shopping Zeus, Jr this offseason. The price might be steep though.

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[quote=Scalper;1277093]RIP indeed.
Now your supposition that Marty firing is worst THE DAN decision could spark some fun debate. Hiring Allen? Keeping Allen? Hiring Cerrato Ye Dunce? Keeping him? Hiring Zorn? Forcing RGIII trade? I mean firing Marty was dumb, but it is SOOOO hard to rank THE DAN'S dumbest decisions because there have been so many.[/quote]

Signing Haynesworth.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1277205]Signing Haynesworth.[/quote]

McNabb is a close second.

Adam Archuleta's contract too.