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If we sign any of the second rate guys, we absolutely better draft a QB at 11, and no later than round 2.

Very interested to see how Carson Strong's medicals go. He is a stud, if his knee can hold up for 5+ years, I wouldn't mind going BPA at 11 and trading back up into the 1st to get him. Or trade down from 11, get extra picks, and then pick him.

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go get wilson orwatson

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1311383]If we sign any of the second rate guys, we absolutely better draft a QB at 11, and no later than round 2.

Very interested to see how Carson Strong's medicals go. He is a stud, if his knee can hold up for 5+ years, I wouldn't mind going BPA at 11 and trading back up into the 1st to get him. Or trade down from 11, get extra picks, and then pick him.[/quote]

Don't even bother signing a vet like MT if we draft someone like Willis high. You have to get the rookie ready to play right away and devote 90% of the snaps to him in practice.

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[quote=MTK;1311387]Don't even bother signing a vet like MT if we draft someone like Willis high. You have to get the rookie ready to play right away and devote 90% of the snaps to him in practice.[/quote]

Agree if not you get what happened to Justin Fields in Chicago

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[quote=MTK;1311387]Don't even bother signing a vet like MT if we draft someone like Willis high. You have to get the rookie ready to play right away and devote 90% of the snaps to him in practice.[/quote]

My theory has always been the best man plays. Even snaps to start and whoever plays better the 1st day, few days, camp, etc., gets more reps the next time until the other guy starts playing better.

We also need to win football games. If the veteran is playing better and gives us the best chance to win, week 1, he should play. The other guys want to win. The NFL isn't for making rookies feel good.

Edit - the veteran is likely to be signed well before the draft too, I would think.

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I hate to say but, if the big three are not available and it is likely the top two QBs won't be available at 11, I would roll with a FA QB, try like hell to trade down and get assets for 2023, and draft a mid-round QB.

To me, the worst case scenario is rolling with TH again.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1311392]My theory has always been the best man plays. Even snaps to start and whoever plays better the 1st day, few days, camp, etc., gets more reps the next time until the other guy starts playing better.

We also need to win football games. If the veteran is playing better and gives us the best chance to win, week 1, he should play. The other guys want to win. The NFL isn't for making rookies feel good.

Edit - the veteran is likely to be signed well before the draft too, I would think.[/quote]

Then you don't take a QB first round. You can't take a QB high and say we're going to let the rookie and a vet battle it out. That's a very poor plan and it will get Ron fired. You go all in with the rookie or you don't take him.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1311396]Then you don't take a QB first round. You can't take a QB high and say we're going to let the rookie and a vet battle it out. That's a very poor plan and it will get Ron fired. You go all in with the rookie or you don't take him.[/QUOTE]


Totally agree with this because it is year 3. Would have been ok in year 1 or 2 but not now.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1311395]I hate to say but, if the big three are not available and it is likely the top two QBs won't be available at 11, I would roll with a FA QB, try like hell to trade down and get assets for 2023, and draft a mid-round QB.

[B]To me, the worst case scenario is rolling with TH again[/B].[/quote]

Agree, I can't take another year of gentle spirals floating over WR's heads.

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Gentle spirals. Lololol

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I'd say if we trade for a starter or sign one of the better FA QB's then agree with not taking a QB in rd1. Maybe not until 3rd. Get someone to compete with TH and can go on the PS if TH wins the backup role. But I don't like the idea of missing out on a starting QB before the draft then relying on what would likely be our 2nd or 3rd choice QB taken at #11 and them being installed as the day 1 starter (because then TH would be starter and we've been there, done that).

Last year or next years draft I'd go hell for leather to trade up to guarantee the #1#or #2 QB because you know they won't be there at #11. But this year that would be folly.

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[quote=MTK;1311401]Agree, I can't take another year of gentle spirals floating over WR's heads.[/quote]

I think those are geese. Nice balls in the air that are mean to WR's when approaching the target (or assumed target).

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[quote=MTK;1311396]Then you don't take a QB first round. You can't take a QB high and say we're going to let the rookie and a vet battle it out. That's a very poor plan and it will get Ron fired. You go all in with the rookie or you don't take him.[/quote]

I'll agree to disagree with you on this point.

My hope would be that the rookie being drafted outplays the veteran rebound anyways.

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Todd Mcshay "I'm not sure Mitch wouldn't be the QB1 in this class, in fact multiple teams are interested"

WOW

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311413]Todd Mcshay "I'm not sure Mitch wouldn't be the QB1 in this class, in fact multiple teams are interested"

WOW[/quote]

Gross

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311413]Todd Mcshay "I'm not sure Mitch wouldn't be the QB1 in this class, in fact multiple teams are interested"

WOW[/quote]

[IMG]https://media.giphy.com/media/orq7T0pctbZRpdhxcN/giphy.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=MTK;1311417]Gross[/quote]

Not sure why you are so down on Mitch. He was put in a bad spot in Chicago. No QB was going to thrive in that situation. I don't think he's a savior or long term solution but he is the perfect guy to come in and compete. He has had some very good games. He is an upgrade over TH and Allen. That is all you can ask for in the vet QB market. An upgrade over what ya got w/out giving up compensation.

But it is painfully obvious he was overdrafted. There will be several guys in this draft that are going to be overdrafted. It happens every single year.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1311421]Not sure why you are so down on Mitch. He was put in a bad spot in Chicago. No QB was going to thrive in that situation. I don't think he's a savior or long term solution but he is the perfect guy to come in and compete. He has had some very good games. He is an upgrade over TH and Allen. That is all you can ask for in the vet QB market. An upgrade over what ya got w/out giving up compensation.

But it is painfully obvious he was overdrafted. There will be several guys in this draft that are going to be overdrafted. It happens every single year.[/quote]

I've seen enough of him to know I don't want him as my starter. Way too inaccurate and erratic throwing from the pocket. Throws too many dumb INTs. There was a play against the Saints in the playoffs 2 years ago where he ran out of bounds to avoid contact on 4th down instead of reaching out for the marker. He's got no heart. 100% Tin man.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1311421]Not sure why you are so down on Mitch. He was put in a bad spot in Chicago. No QB was going to thrive in that situation. I don't think he's a savior or long term solution but he is the perfect guy to come in and compete. He has had some very good games. [B]He is an upgrade over TH and Allen.[/B] That is all you can ask for in the vet QB market. An upgrade over what ya got w/out giving up compensation.

But it is painfully obvious he was overdrafted. There will be several guys in this draft that are going to be overdrafted. It happens every single year.[/quote]

is he though ???

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[quote=MTK;1311401]Agree, I can't take another year of gentle spirals floating over WR's heads.[/quote]

I would not take a vet minimum salary for one game to catch a pass from him over the middle. I value my brain and ribs far too much.

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[URL="https://markbullock.substack.com/p/what-would-mitchell-trubisky-bring?utm_source=url"]What would Mitchell Trubisky bring to the Washington Commanders?[/URL]

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Man Trubisky might not have had the greatest teacher/team/ situation for a young quarterback, and sure anyone can turn it around.
It is just the few times i saw him play he looked…well….awful. Maybe i only saw his worst games?
I think Id rather draft bp at quarterback at 11 and start with someone who isn’t possibly shell shocked from his time with da bears.

I say we get someone at 11, and keep TH for the last two minutes of each half. Lol

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If it's Mitch as QB1 , we better have a fucking great defense

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1311410]I'll agree to disagree with you on this point.

My hope would be that the rookie being drafted outplays the veteran rebound anyways.[/QUOTE]


I feel like if we signed a vet and drafted a rook they would both constantly be looking over their shoulder.
The vet rebound comes here knowing its his last chance. The rook comes here with the weight of the world to finally be the guy. You start the rook and he stumbles - gotta bring in the vet u gave a contract to now and maybe its cus the rook was looking over his shoulder. You start the vet and he stumbles- you bring in the rook and we signed the vet for no reason.
I think that you either
A) sign the vet and draft elsewhere or
B) draft at 11 and keep Allen who would be more than happy having a job period. I cant see even TH being told he is the backup and being good with that. I think a rook would look over his shoulder at TH but not Allen in other words.

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Look away Commanders fans. Whatever slim chance Washington had in landing Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson was snuffed out as quickly as it was brought up.

During an interview on the Today show, Wilson was plainly asked if he’d play for Washington. Wilson, who is originally from Richmond, didn’t like the idea of returning home or even playing on the East Coast.

“I love the East Coast, but I think the West Coast is better for me right now,” Wilson said. “I got my whole family over here. I’m from Richmond and I know what you mean. I got people hitting me up every day.”

[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/03/01/russell-wilson-say-he-wont-play-for-commanders-happy-in-seattle[/url]

Man ... I was getting my hopes up.

Take a flawed QB at 11, suck next year, take a QB with first pick next year ... repeat taking guys with your first pick until you hit a no doubt home run.

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RW was a pipe dream, Seattle has not indicated once that they would even part ways with him.. They are not stupid, he's a top 10 QB.. Our only hope would be Watson now

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Russ is still a Seahawk. I doubt he would come out and be like hell yeah id go to Washington.

That being said I don’t think he is coming, not because of that interview though. There was nothing said other than the correct thing to say on March 1.

My best hope right now is Willis at 11.

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[quote=MTK;1311417]Gross[/quote]

The year we desperately need a qb coincidentally happens to be the year of the weakest rookie class in years.

Ron has bad luck. Didn't want to sell the farm to move up last year with so many holes on the roster, and couldn't sell the farm in 2020 because he needed to see Haskins perform before giving up on him. Fuck.

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[quote=SunnySide;1311433]Look away Commanders fans. Whatever slim chance Washington had in landing Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson was snuffed out as quickly as it was brought up.

During an interview on the Today show, Wilson was plainly asked if he’d play for Washington. Wilson, who is originally from Richmond, didn’t like the idea of returning home or even playing on the East Coast.

“I love the East Coast, but I think the West Coast is better for me right now,” Wilson said. “I got my whole family over here. I’m from Richmond and I know what you mean. I got people hitting me up every day.”

[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/03/01/russell-wilson-say-he-wont-play-for-commanders-happy-in-seattle[/url]

Man ... I was getting my hopes up.

Take a flawed QB at 11, suck next year, take a QB with first pick next year ... repeat taking guys with your first pick until you hit a no doubt home run.[/quote]

"Go play for a team owned by Dan Snyder? Yeahhhhhh..... nooooo."

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1311428]I would not take a vet minimum salary for one game to catch a pass from him over the middle. I value my brain and ribs far too much.[/quote]

[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/53la511XQGkAAAAC/the-goon-dodgeball.gif[/IMG]

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Mitch Trubisky has talent. Way more than Allen or Heinicke.

[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=07E0eGnVbb0[/url]

(Note, I hate loving football, because the league and Goodell are cocksuckers. Tried to embed 3 videos, all rejected. Can only post the link.)

There are throws made here that are impressive, and that Heinicke simply can't make.

It's a highlight film so not saying he comes in as QB1.

But I'd be totally fine with Rookie QB/Trubisky/Heinicke or Allen.

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It almost certainly won't be Wilson/Rodgers/Watson.

My crystal ball says it will most likely be Trubisky who will be signed at the start of the free agency period; and if that's the case, I do not see them drafting a QB in the 1st round, maybe not at all.

I see a lot of hate on Trubisky, but after the pipe dream that is Wilson/Rodgers/Watson, he is probably the best option. The biggest knock on him coming out of the draft was experience. He has that experience now. He has starting experience (and playoff experience), and he has sat and learned behind one of the best young QBs in the NFL today, with the benefit of being surrounded by really good coaches there in Buffalo for the last year. Some of you think he's trash, but I'd rather take a chance on him than take a flier on one of these not-so-heralded prospects coming out of college this year.

No way RR drafts one of these QBs in round 1 and gives them the keys...no chance.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1311458]It almost certainly won't be Wilson/Rodgers/Watson.

My crystal ball says it will most likely be Trubisky who will be signed at the start of the free agency period; and if that's the case, I do not see them drafting a QB in the 1st round, maybe not at all.

I see a lot of hate on Trubisky, but after the pipe dream that is Wilson/Rodgers/Watson, he is probably the best option. The biggest knock on him coming out of the draft was experience. He has that experience now. He has starting experience (and playoff experience), and he has sat and learned behind one of the best young QBs in the NFL today, with the benefit of being surrounded by really good coaches there in Buffalo for the last year. Some of you think he's trash, but I'd rather take a chance on him than take a flier on one of these not-so-heralded prospects coming out of college this year.

No way RR drafts one of these QBs in round 1 and gives them the keys...no chance.[/quote]

Regardless of who we get in free agency, we need to draft a young guy the team likes. We need a young guy in that QB room.

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[quote=MTK;1311423]I've seen enough of him to know I don't want him as my starter. Way too inaccurate and erratic throwing from the pocket. Throws too many dumb INTs. There was a play against the Saints in the playoffs 2 years ago where he ran out of bounds to avoid contact on 4th down instead of reaching out for the marker. He's got no heart. 100% Tin man.[/quote]

Not going to judge him on one play. I have seen him run the ball plenty of times and take on contact. I have also seen him have some huge days throwing the ball.

All the free agent QB's that are going to be on the open market have battled consistency issues. If they didn't they'd be on long term contacts. There's a reason they're free agents. You could say the same thing about Mariota, Dalton, Winston, Bridgewater...

I'm going to try and sign Mitch cause he has started playoff games. He has the most potential out of all the free agents.

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If you had to pick Mitch or TH who are you taking???

That is a close call IMO

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311466]If you had to pick Mitch or TH who are you taking???

That is a close call IMO[/quote]

I'm taking sundays off.
F this shit.

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[quote=jamf;1311468]I'm taking sundays off.
F this shit.[/quote]

Ron on the QB situation "Hey we are doing research on every QB out there"

This is the politically correct answer to "We just hope someone comes here"

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[quote=Chico23231;1311462]Regardless of who we get in free agency, we need to draft a young guy the team likes. We need a young guy in that QB room.[/quote]

I don't think that's a given. It depends on who they get via free agency/trade - if anyone. And MT is only 27. He's still a young guy. If they sign him it's going to for the long term, not as a bridge - and TH will be his backup.

Now if they end up signing a guy like Dalton, T Taylor, Brissett, or no one...then yeah they have to draft a QB.

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[quote=jamf;1311468]I'm taking sundays off.
F this shit.[/quote]

Seriously, if either of those guys are the week 1 starter I'm finding something better to do with my Sundays.

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[quote=MTK;1311473]Seriously, if either of those guys are the week 1 starter I'm finding something better to do with my Sundays.[/quote]

I'll watch because its week 1 lol but surely we will do better than those 2 guys right???? For the folks saying "Mitch could be a Tannehill" Yeah I do agree with that but do we really want a game manager again? I want a gunslinger dammit