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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I'm just waiting for everyone BUT Brunell to be blamed for the loss tonight.[/QUOTE]

I'm not defending Brunell at all...

But I'm not gonna sit here and act like he's the only problem right now.

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I'm just waiting for everyone BUT Brunell to be blamed for the loss tonight.[/QUOTE]

Its not his fault, its Gibbs.

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I'm blaming Zack Mills

:Smoker:

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Blame list:
1. Snyder-He's #1 on my list permanently until he sells the team
2. Gibbs
3. Brunold, AKA Donnie Dump Off, AKA Dink-n-Dunk, AKA Can't Hit a Moving Target
4. Sean Taylor

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I'm not defending Brunell at all...

But I'm not gonna sit here and act like he's the only problem right now.[/QUOTE]
hes not the only problem...but hes the main one
[QUOTE=Gmanc711]Its not his fault, its Gibbs.[/QUOTE]
for putting in brunell

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]So none of the other problems matter tonight?

Nobody getting open, the OL getting blown up, guys dropping balls when they actually do get open?

Plugging in Ramsey wouldn't equal an instant fix, not with the way the entire offense is playing right now.[/QUOTE]

Patten was open deep and Brunell underthrew him in the first half.
Moss was open in the endzone and Brunell underthrew him.
And the entire offense looks different and plays different when Ramsey is in there. It's as simple as this: Look at the numbers. Compare what Ramsey has done in the Gibbs offense to what Brunell has done in the Gibbs offense. That's all I ask, just please compare the numbers. Ramsey has had more yards per attempt, more yards per completion, a better completion percentage, a better QB rating, and a ton more passing yards. They both play under the same offensive system........so assuming the offense would have been just as bad tonight with Ramsey at the helm is contradictory to history.

Oh, and Brunell just underthrew Patten AGAIN.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]So none of the other problems matter tonight?

Nobody getting open, the OL getting blown up, guys dropping balls when they actually do get open?

Plugging in Ramsey wouldn't equal an instant fix, not with the way the entire offense is playing right now.[/QUOTE]

It matters because when can't the stretch the field because your QB cannot hit any of the intermediate throws so there is no room for the running game. On the short stuff it is not like Brunell has hit ANYONE in stride, how many times have you seen Robert Royal make an incredible catch but his body is all twisted and off balance so he cannot run withit afterwards. No one respects Brunells arm so welcome to eight men in a box....yep our worst nightmare last years O has returned.

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Our offense has more than QB problems. But brunnel is terrible. I have a feeling Ramsey would have faired no better.

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Actually OVERthrew an open Jacobs........the guy just sucks...it's that simple.......he has NO business being our starting QB

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ANOTHER Sack for minus 50 yards.....real veteran move there

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Gibbs had better be a MAN and shake Parcells hand this time. This loss rests heavily on his shoulders.

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Also John Madden and Al Michaels both have extremely strange man crushes on Bill Parcells and definitely want to lick his balls.

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]Patten was open deep and Brunell underthrew him in the first half.
Moss was open in the endzone and Brunell underthrew him.
And the entire offense looks different and plays different when Ramsey is in there. It's as simple as this: Look at the numbers. Compare what Ramsey has done in the Gibbs offense to what Brunell has done in the Gibbs offense. That's all I ask, just please compare the numbers. Ramsey has had more yards per attempt, more yards per completion, a better completion percentage, a better QB rating, and a ton more passing yards. They both play under the same offensive system........so assuming the offense would have been just as bad tonight with Ramsey at the helm is contradictory to history.

Oh, and Brunell just underthrew Patten AGAIN.[/QUOTE]

You're missing the most important #, wins. Something neither of these QBs have been able to get us.

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[QUOTE=DirtBagZ]Gibbs had better be a MAN and shake Parcells hand this time. This loss rests heavily on his shoulders.[/QUOTE]

Now we're back on that?

He shook his hand and quickly turned away.

Get over it.

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I am dying a little inside every offensive play.

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[QUOTE=STPainmaker]Also John Madden and Al Michaels both have extremely strange man crushes on Bill Parcells and definitely want to lick his balls.[/QUOTE]

They've been loving everything about the Cowboys tonight.

But I guess that's what happens when you win.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]You're missing the most important #, wins. Something neither of these QBs have been able to get us.[/QUOTE]

Then lets not play either of them. If niether of these guys can win us a game, which right now I KNOW Brunell cant, and am 70% sure the same could be said for Ramsey, just play Campbell. Theres no point wasting our time with this crap. THis is just rediculous.

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]ANOTHER Sack for minus 50 yards.....real veteran move there[/QUOTE]

Ramsey just holds onto the ball too damn long. I mean he's been sacked 5 times (in addition to throwing the pick). Oh wait, that's not Ramsey.

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I'm just waiting for everyone BUT Brunell to be blamed for the loss tonight.

Everyone was praising Moss, Patten, the O-line, and Portis in the preseason and all of the sudden, Brunell isn't to blame....it's thier fault. The offensive woes are a team effort, but Brunell is a big part of the problem.[/QUOTE]

EXACTLY

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Now we're back on that?

He shook his hand and quickly turned away.

Get over it.[/QUOTE]

That did not look good on TV. So be MAN walk up slowly, look Parcells in the eye and shake his hand. It is called being a good sport.

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You know it's bad when Thomas is jumping

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711]Then lets not play either of them. If niether of these guys can win us a game, which right now I KNOW Brunell cant, and am 70% sure the same could be said for Ramsey, just play Campbell. Theres no point wasting our time with this crap. THis is just rediculous.[/QUOTE]

Might as well.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]You're missing the most important #, wins. Something neither of these QBs have been able to get us.[/QUOTE]

No I'm not.....I said in an earlier post:
Brunell last year 3-6
Ramsey 3-4

Ramsey has a better winning percentage.......again, the numbers don't lie

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so you're saying Patten and Moss aren't fast enough to get separation either? who's it going to take, the Flash?

i've never seen someone check down so often. in an effort to keep Gibbs happy, Brunell will not look downfield. watching this 'passing attack' is physically making me sick, and of course Portis gets stuffed. but hey, who needs points when you get no INTS! oops, just one.

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[QUOTE=DirtBagZ]That did not look good on TV. So be MAN walk up slowly, look Parcells in the eye and shake his hand. It is called being a good sport.[/QUOTE]

It's called shake his hand it's not a fashion show, who really cares how it looks.

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'Bout freakin time

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]No I'm not.....I said in an earlier post:
Brunell last year 3-6
Ramsey 3-4

Ramsey has a better winning percentage.......again, the numbers don't lie[/QUOTE]

Dude, you're bragging on a QB who has a subpar winning percentage.

Gimme a break.

They both suck.

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Thank the Lord. Thank you Brunell/Moss. Please, please, please prove me wrong.

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Just curious: Is Moss still the reason for our being behind?

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If the defense can hold, we could be working a miracle.

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It's paypack time, we need to win one to get back for last year's miracle bomb to Crayton.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Dude, you're bragging on a QB who has a subpar winning percentage.

Gimme a break.

They both suck.[/QUOTE]

No, again, Matty I think you're missing the point of my posts.....either that or you just don't want to admit that I'm right. Ramsey gives us a better chance to win. Period. He's had more success in Gibbs's system. He's got a better winning percentage. He's got a better QB rating. He's better than Brunell in nearly every QB category.

I'm not saying Ramsey is God.....I never did. What I've consistently said is that Brunell is the worst option we have and that Ramsey should be starting over Brunell. That's it.

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]No, again, Matty I think you're missing the point of my posts.....either that or you just don't want to admit that I'm right. Ramsey gives us a better chance to win. Period. He's had more success in Gibbs's system. He's got a better winning percentage. He's got a better QB rating. He's better than Brunell in nearly every QB category.

I'm not saying Ramsey is God.....I never did. What I've consistently said is that Brunell is the worst option we have and that Ramsey should be starting over Brunell. That's it.[/QUOTE]

Maybe I am missing your point, or maybe it's just incredibly lame.

I could see your argument if Ramsey had a nice winning percentage... some sort of solid proof he's a proven winner.

He's 3-4 under Gibbs and 9-14 for his career. Sorry if that fails to impress me. He sucks a little less than Brunell... that's really something to hang your hat on.

:rolleyes:

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]It's called shake his hand it's not a fashion show, who really cares how it looks.[/QUOTE]

It does matter, and I did say shake his hand. If stuff like how it looks on TV does not matter than why did everyone get up in arms over the Randy Moss "mooning" in Green Bay?

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Did the Refs just call something in the Skins favor?

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D needs to step it up

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[QUOTE=DirtBagZ]It does matter, and I did say shake his hand. If stuff like how it looks on TV does not matter than why did everyone get up in arms over the Randy Moss "mooning" in Green Bay?[/QUOTE]

You win, he's not a man because he didn't shake his hand correctly.

Who cares

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Maybe I am missing your point, or maybe it's just incredibly lame.

I could see your argument if Ramsey had a nice winning percentage... some sort of solid proof he's a proven winner.

He's 3-4 under Gibbs and 9-14 for his career. Sorry if that fails to impress me. He sucks a little less than Brunell... that's really something to hang your hat on.

:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

No, see I think the problem is you just refuse to admit that Gibbs is not perfect. He made the wrong call. You can't give me one decent reason for starting Brunell over Ramsey. The numbers don't add up. I'm not saying Ramsey is great, but can you tell me why you don't start the guy that is better in every single category? Why don't you start the guy who wins just a little more often? Why don't you start the QB with a better passer rating, more yards per attempt and completion, more total yards...etc, etc, etc??? Just tell me why you choose to start the worse option of the two. Please tell me.

I mean maybe I'm way off here, but I thought the reason you play games is to win........so why not at least give yourself the best chance possible, even if that chance still isn't good? Aren't we trying to win games here?

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Holy Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oh My God