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[quote=Chico23231;1330937]I thought this was interesting

Ted Cruz unites with Bernie Sanders behind failed push for rail worker sick leave

Per Dallas morning News[/quote]

Like you . they are both idiots.

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Instead of giving hand outs of 10k to folks who don’t need them, we should be looking at why colleges are so expensive and looking to reduce cost. A big part of the problem is a familiar one when talking about big government and ineffective bureaucracy:

Harvard employs almost as many administrators as there are undergrad students. 7,024 admins vs 7,153 undergrads. unreal! what the hell do they do?

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[quote=Chico23231;1331399][B]Instead of giving hand outs of 10k to folks who don’t need them,[/quote]

Who says they don't need them? Fuck you and Harvard.

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[quote=Chico23231;1331399]Instead of giving hand outs of 10k to folks who don’t need them, we should be looking at why colleges are so expensive and looking to reduce cost. A big part of the problem is a familiar one when talking about big government and ineffective bureaucracy:

Harvard employs almost as many administrators as there are undergrad students. 7,024 admins vs 7,153 undergrads. unreal! what the hell do they do?[/quote]

[IMG]https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/093/953/c5b.jpg[/IMG]

Blames cost of college education on "big government" ...

Wants government to investigate private college

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[quote=SunnySide;1331406][IMG]https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/093/953/c5b.jpg[/IMG]

Blames cost of college education on "big government" ...

Wants government to investigate private college[/quote]

Of course I didn’t say neither of these.

I blame the cost on the student loan program which the government has a firm hand in as well as “business” of higher education which colleges private or public are responsible for as well.

System is broken and the cost shouldn’t be a mortgage for undergrad programs. Now programs above under grad, then that’s a different story

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[quote=Chico23231;1331412]Of course I did neither of these.

I blame the cost on the student loan program which the government has a firm hand in as well as “business” of higher education which colleges private or public are responsible for as well.

System is broken and the cost shouldn’t be a mortgage for undergrad programs. Now programs above under grad, then that’s a different story[/quote]

So teachers and all employees at College don't deserve a living wage, is that what you're saying?

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Don't know why we can't do both, relieve people of some debt along with fixing the outrageous costs of education.

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[quote=Chico23231;1331399]Instead of giving hand outs of 10k to folks who don’t need them, we should be looking at why colleges are so expensive and looking to reduce cost. A big part of the problem is a familiar one when talking about big government and ineffective bureaucracy:

[B][B]Harvard employs almost as many administrators as there are undergrad students. 7,024 admins vs 7,153 undergrads. unreal! what the hell do they do?[/B][/B][/quote]


Did you get this from marginalrevolution.com? Looking at Harvard's website around 5,500 administrative and professional staff. That is still high but not hyperbolic to the unbelievable. At tuition costs of $55,000 a year that just isn't possible.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1331487]Did you get this from marginalrevolution.com? Looking at Harvard's website around 5,500 administrative and professional staff. That is still high but not hyperbolic to the unbelievable. At tuition costs of $55,000 a year that just isn't possible.[/quote]

I’ve also seen employment figures much higher for Harvard.

Let’s be honest, higher education cost are ridiculous and it much less about about education and more about big business.

These institutions could be run much, much leaner. Administration bloat is a problem

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[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/canada-offered-assisted-suicide-paralympian-veteran-wanted-wheelchair-lift-installed-report[/url]

Canada offered assisted suicide to a Paralympian veteran who wanted a wheelchair lift installed: report


Man what is up with Canada? place has become a shithole:

Christine Gauthier, a 52-year-old retired corporal who competed in the 2016 Paralympics at Rio De Janeiro, testified to lawmakers that a VA official had offered — in writing — to provide her with a medically-assisted suicide kit. The case officer remains unnamed but reportedly made similar offers to at least three other veterans, according to the Independent.

"I have a letter saying that if you’re so desperate, madam, we can offer you MAID, medical assistance in dying," Gauthier said in a hearing before the House of Commons veterans affairs committee.

Gtfoh with this…a 50-something got a medical device and the state offered to help kill herself? Is this medical advice

Don’t make me tap the fuckin sign again:

The government will not save you.

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Cost of college .. this is a big thing that needs to be addressed. How? Who knows.

1. Trade schools and skilled labor -- if you stay home from work you used to see the ITT tech trade schools and trucker classes. You can make a great stable living doing construction, mechanic, hvac, plumbing .. were talking over 100k.

After high school i worked as a day laborer at a construction site and id talk with the electricians and one guy was ready to offer me an apprenticeship. In 5-10 years you get your own truck, own a nice cheap house across the line in PA, drive down to MD for work.

I told my mom if a college accepted me, id go .. and then a college made an admin error and gave me a scholarship so I went the blue collar route.

COLLEGE ISNT FOR EVERYONE .. I hope my daughter goes to a trade school or culinary school .. or college if she wants to party and take on debt

2. Federal Govt got into the student loan business bc of the GIs in WW2 started the program. Guys coming back went to school and then had jobs. Very successful.

After Russia landed Sputnik there was a real push during the cold war to get the brightest into our advanced colleges as we didnt want to fall behind Russia in science/physics/aero etc

3. Private loans are more expensive and higher int rate (and probably higher decline rate) vs fed student loan program. Problem is people arent paying back the loans like anticipated ... probably bc we made "you gotta go to college to be successful" as some mantra like the milk mafia pushed milk on us for strong bones in the 70s and 80s.

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We need college to be accessible to our brightest .. not just the rich

but we cant have students not paying loans and living decades in debt

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Contributions

Maryland offers a state tax deduction for contributions to a 529 plan of up to $2,500 for single filers and $5,000 for married filing jointly tax filers.

You can also carry-forward excess contributions for 10 years, which allows for super-funding.

Minimum:*$25

Maximum:*Accepts contributions until all account balances for the same beneficiary reach $500,000.

Matching Contributions:*Eligible participants who open a new account can receive up to $500 in matching contributions from the state.

[url]https://thecollegeinvestor.com/529-plan-guide/maryland/[/url]

Raising the tax State deduction over 2.5/5 to 5/10 would be a start .. but doesnt address the rising costs of college

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Sputnik was a wake-up call for the US: Americans needed to be smarter.

On October 4, 1957, the Soviet Union launched the first Earth-orbiting satellite, Sputnik. It was a clear sign to President Dwight Eisenhower that the US needed to be producing more scientists and engineers to compete with other nations. But there was one problem — the education system at the time was exclusive and shut out low- and middle-income people from participating.*

America wasn't going to catch up to the Soviets in the "space race" as long as that was the case.

Congress stepped in and created the National Defense Education Act (NDEA) at Eisenhower's request, which allowed the government to give loans to students in science and mathematics fields. It was later amended to remove restrictions on fields of study.*

[url]https://www.businessinsider.com/sputnik-created-student-loan-debt-industry-soviet-eisenhower-education-2021-11[/url]

Went down a bit of a rabbit hole yesterday on Fed student loan history ... its needs some 2022 adjustments

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[quote=Chico23231;1331498][url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/canada-offered-assisted-suicide-paralympian-veteran-wanted-wheelchair-lift-installed-report[/url]

Canada offered assisted suicide to a Paralympian veteran who wanted a wheelchair lift installed: report


Man what is up with Canada? place has become a shithole:

Christine Gauthier, a 52-year-old retired corporal who competed in the 2016 Paralympics at Rio De Janeiro, testified to lawmakers that a VA official had offered — in writing — to provide her with a medically-assisted suicide kit. The case officer remains unnamed but reportedly made similar offers to at least three other veterans, according to the Independent.

"I have a letter saying that if you’re so desperate, madam, we can offer you MAID, medical assistance in dying," Gauthier said in a hearing before the House of Commons veterans affairs committee.

Gtfoh with this…[/quote]


In 50-100 years, anyone over 75 and not working can elect to have a peaceful passing and their family will receive money or tax benefits.

or china will unleash some more covid as population control ....

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[quote=MTK;1331414]Don't know why we can't do both, relieve people of some debt along with fixing the outrageous costs of education.[/quote]

The one is the main contributor to the other (Easy accessibility to government money has been the main driver for the education cost explosion).

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[quote=nonniey;1331531]The one is the main contributor to the other (Easy accessibility to government money has been the main driver for the education cost explosion).[/quote]

This^

Schools know this and just keep pushing these kids farther and farther in debt.

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Hey Congress, give me a status update, how are you doing today?

Oh? Ok. Status quo it is.

[IMG]https://i.redd.it/ul6fslnbqd4a1.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Chico23231;1331532]This^

Schools know this and just keep pushing these kids farther and farther in debt.[/quote]

..............or further and further into....

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[quote=mooby;1331548]Hey Congress, give me a status update, how are you doing today?

Oh? Ok. Status quo it is.

[IMG]https://i.redd.it/ul6fslnbqd4a1.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Was the bill only to vote on if non-citizens who served in the military should be granted citizenship? The whole bill was just that question? If so, I'll disagree with all 208 of them.

Or was this shoved into a bill that includes a bunch of shit that has nothing to do with that question?

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjZV8GtWYAcNB-y?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]

what a dope

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[quote=MTK;1331593][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjZV8GtWYAcNB-y?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]

what a dope[/quote]

Seems to run with anyone associated with trump.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1331559]Was the bill only to vote on if non-citizens who served in the military should be granted citizenship? The whole bill was just that question? If so, I'll disagree with all 208 of them.

Or was this shoved into a bill that includes a bunch of shit that has nothing to do with that question?[/quote]

Wasn't hard to google


[url]https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/12/06/bill-help-deported-veterans-and-non-citizen-troops-clears-house.html[/url]

Republicans largely opposed the bill over what they have described as a Biden administration-fueled "crisis" at the U.S.-Mexico border. Republicans cite record numbers of Customs and Border Protection encounters with immigrants at the border and drug seizure numbers.

The bill "creates additional carve outs to an already broken immigration system," Rep. Mike Bost, R-Ill., the ranking member and likely next chairman of the House Veterans Affairs Committee, said on the floor. "Right now, DHS can't even do their job of securing the southern border and enforcing immigration law."

Republicans also argued that most deported veterans have committed other crimes and so are too dangerous to be in the country.

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[url]https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/07/ftx-maxine-waters-doesnt-plan-to-subpoena-sam-bankman-fried-to-testify-at-hearing-on-crypto-exchanges-collapse.html[/url]

House Financial Services Chair Waters doesn’t plan to subpoena Sam Bankman-Fried to testify at hearing on FTX collapse

Wow a corrupt bitch. This fuck committed a Madoff size fraud and democrats are gonna not hold him responsible because he funded midterms and was the second largest doner of Biden.

Democrats are corrupt whether it’s working with tech to censor stories like Hunter laptop or not holding billionaire fraudsters accountable

I’m sure there will be silence here….but but trump. Please

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The fall of crypto billionaire Sam Bankman-Fried has been painted as a big blow to the Democratic party, whose candidates were major beneficiaries of his largesse. But in a new interview, Bankman-Fried has claimed he gave equally large amounts of money to Republicans.

“I donated to both parties. I donated about the same amount to both parties,” Bankman-Fried told the crypto commentator and citizen journalist Tiffany Fong.

“All my Republican donations were dark,” he said, referring to political donations that are not publicly disclosed. “The reason was not for regulatory reasons, it’s because reporters freak the fuck out if you donate to Republicans. They’re all super liberal, and I didn’t want to have that fight.”

[B]Bankman-Fried’s undisclosed donations were made possible by the supreme court’s 2010 decision in the Citizens United case[/B], which made it easier for donors to give large amounts of money anonymously and has led to more than $1bn being poured into federal elections since 2010.

[B]Public data shows that some parts of Bankman-Fried’s empire gave equally to both parties. Data from OpenSecrets, a non-profit that tracks data on campaign finance and lobbying, shows FTX US, the company’s US operation, gave equally to both parties.[/B]

But Bankman-Fried’s public donations went largely to Democrats. The FTX founder gave more than $990,000 to candidates in the last election cycle, according to OpenSecrets, and another $38.8m to outside groups. Only about $235,000 of his public political giving went toward Republican candidates.

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/30/ftx-billionaire-sam-bankman-fried-dark-money-republicans[/url]

Guess which Justices voted to allow dark corporate money to be used in elections ... as a form of indivual's right to free speech? Bc corporations = people, and speech = money

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[url]https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/ftx-us/recipients?id=D000073694[/url]

Wow, I wonder what’s the biggest influence peddling…$286k to republicans from FTX or 38 million to outside democrats PACs? Along with 990,000k of his own money to democrats?

To frame this as equal giving to both party’s…lolololol. Nope doesn’t pass the smell test.

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Lots of red in there .. House is threatening a subpoena if he doesnt testify voluntarily

Odd to see a conservatives get their panties in a bunch over corporate political donations

Blankman's story isnt which party he donated to (he donated millions to both), thats legal thanks to conservatives Justices .. its whether there was financial fraud

But anyway ... wont stop the 10% of Americans that just irrationally hate democrats

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Hearings will happen .. and people will spin .. end of the day Im still eating a salad for lunch

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SS thinks political donations made from a result of a 40 billion dollar fraud is no big deal. It wasn’t his 50 million dollars. That’s the problem. And at bet you think he didn’t expect anything back in return.

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[quote=Chico23231;1331642][url]https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/ftx-us/recipients?id=D000073694[/url]

Wow, I wonder what’s the biggest influence peddling…$286k to republicans from FTX or 38 million to outside democrats PACs? Along with 990,000k of his own money to democrats?

To frame this as equal giving to both party’s…lolololol. Nope doesn’t pass the smell test.[/quote]

This is what you sound like.

"Dark money doesn't exist in politics! lolololol dumbasses"

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[quote=mooby;1331661]This is what you sound like.

"Dark money doesn't exist in politics! lolololol dumbasses"[/quote]

You think chico is crying now what till the republicans take over Congress and go after Biden and his son.

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[quote=mooby;1331661]This is what you sound like.

"Dark money doesn't exist in politics! lolololol dumbasses"[/quote]

Number 2 Democrat donor in the last cycle used 10s of millions of stolen funds to support campaigns

But yet, that’s the best you come up with.

Corrupt liberals, nothing new

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Looks like conservatives censorship on Twitter was always a thing. Literally without reason. No surprise really. Shadow banning was being performed and not a conspiracy theory.

Complete embarrassment

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[quote=Chico23231;1331670]Looks like conservatives censorship on Twitter was always a thing. Literally without reason. No surprise really. Shadow banning was a thing[/quote]

What a fucking shock. A bunch of companies based out of San Jose and San Francisco are 99.99% liberal and lied their asses off about how the company was used.

Musk was a fucking liberal hero 2-3 years ago. Now he's enemy No. 1. I'm indifferent to Musk, so I like watching this shit burn down. If he loses all his money, I don't care. If he stays rich as fuck, I don't care. Just keep digging up dirt.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1331672]What a fucking shock. A bunch of companies based out of San Jose and San Francisco are 99.99% liberal and lied their asses off about how the company was used.

Musk was a fucking liberal hero 2-3 years ago. Now he's enemy No. 1. I'm indifferent to Musk, so I like watching this shit burn down. If he loses all his money, I don't care. If he stays rich as fuck, I don't care. Just keep digging up dirt.[/quote]

The problem is in 2018 when this became apparent, Twitter released multiple statements they were not engaged in this in any shape, form or fashion.

Welp, journalist Bari Weiss brought the internal documents, emails and screenshots to show everyone, censorship was alive and well. Shadow banning was a strategy

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[quote=Chico23231;1331673]The problem is in 2018 when this became apparent, Twitter released multiple statements they were not engaged in this in any shape, form or fashion.

Welp, journalist Bari Weiss brought the internal documents, emails and screenshots to show everyone, censorship was alive and well. Shadow banning was a strategy[/quote]

Anyone with a head on their shoulders has always known that Twitter and Facebook were an arm of the democratic party. No way this information is surprising. The left will downplay it, the right will act shocked, but everyone already knew.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1331674]Anyone with a head on their shoulders has always known that Twitter and Facebook were an arm of the democratic party. No way this information is surprising. The left will downplay it, the right will act shocked, but everyone already knew.[/quote]

This is why liberals were crying when Elon bought Twitter, even playing field doesn’t work for them. They prefer a company who censors their political opponents and a have a board they can email “from the Biden team” and delete speech that’s politically harmful.

It’s an embarrassment

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[url]https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/energy-department-official-accused-of-stealing-luggage-from-las-vegas-airport/[/url]

An energy department official is accused of stealing luggage from Harry Reid International Airport, the 8 News Now Investigators learned Thursday.

A felony warrant was issued for Sam Brinton, a deputy assistant secretary, sources said. The charge is for grand larceny with a value between $1,200 and $5,000, records showed.

Brinton is a deputy assistant secretary of the office of spent fuel and waste disposition, according to the Office of Nuclear Energy’s website.


D&I hires promoted by the Biden administration…failures.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1331674][B]Anyone with a head on their shoulders has always known that Twitter and Facebook were an arm of the democratic party. No way this information is surprising. The left will downplay it, the right will act shocked, but everyone already knew[/B].[/quote]

LOL, you try to convince everyone you're just a down home guy who happens to be a republican but don't back their crazy's , .....................and then you post shit like this and blow it all up.

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[quote=Chico23231;1331701]


It’s an embarrassment[/quote]



lol, so are you.

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[quote=Giantone;1331703]LOL, you try to convince everyone you're just a down home guy who happens to be a republican but don't back their crazy's , .....................and then you post shit like this and blow it all up.[/quote]

I don't think you know how to use bolding font properly. You are only supposed to use it when you're trying to point out a specific segment. You don't bold out the whole thing. You can just do a standard reply for that.

Yes, thinking Twitter and Facebook were heavily biased towards democrats is an INSANE proposition.

I don't even care that they are, I don't use either of them. I don't think any conservatives should use those sites/apps. If you think they're biased, but continue to use them, you are part of the problem.

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[quote=MTK;1331693]Facebook an arm of the democrats??

[url]https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/09/26/facebook-conservatives-2020-421146[/url][/quote]

“Facebook isn’t censoring like we want them too”

Hilarious they mention “savvy Occupy Democrats” and Media matters. Both publishers of some of the misleading, dishonest, edited clips of information on social media. Neither are a legitimate source of information