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SFREDSKIN 03-28-2015 12:56 PM

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[quote=calia;1110283]Check out the article on nfl.com about Kaepernick working with Warner. Wish RGIII was doing that. Same issues.


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That's what I said last year at the end of the season when he announced he will be working with Warner.

calia 03-28-2015 12:57 PM

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I recall that. And seeing the article about the progress Kap has appeared to make only underscores it. Wish we could get Warner or Steve Young to do some mentoring.


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ethat001 03-28-2015 01:05 PM

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Exactly. Wish RG3 would do.. something new. *anything* new.

Seems like [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2015/01/29/terry-shea-robert-griffin-iii-and-matt-cavanaugh-will-work-well-together/"]he always uses the same QB coach (T. Shea)[/URL], and has produced consistently horrible results. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results. I just wish he'd accept that he needs to change something, needs to get better -- and my gut based on his press conferences is that he still blames things on everyone else (protection, scheme, etc).

KI Skins Fan 03-28-2015 01:30 PM

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[quote=calia;1110285]I recall that. And seeing the article about the progress Kap has appeared to make only underscores it. Wish we could get Warner or [B]Steve Young[/B] to do some mentoring.


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Steve Young might be a perfect mentor for RGIII. I think RGIII should pattern his game after Young's.

SFREDSKIN 03-28-2015 01:36 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1110289]Steve Young might be a perfect mentor for RGIII. I think RGIII should pattern his game after Young's.[/quote]

All he had to do was ask, if he got turned down then
so be it.

HailGreen28 03-28-2015 05:16 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1110289]Steve Young might be a perfect mentor for RGIII. I think RGIII should pattern his game after Young's.[/quote]Run like a fullback and career shortened by concussion? Great career, but no thank you.

KI Skins Fan 03-28-2015 07:01 PM

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[quote=HailGreen28;1110295]Run like a fullback and career shortened by concussion? Great career, but no thank you.[/quote]

That is not how I would describe his game, at all. He played for 14 years, BTW.

RGIII could do a lot worse than to pattern his game after a HOF QB who had a similar skill set to his own. That is, when RGIII was using his skill set. Right now, RGIII has no identity as a QB.

Lotus 03-28-2015 08:57 PM

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Steve Young might challenge RGIII to really change his game. RGIII does not seem open to that.

KI Skins Fan 03-29-2015 08:05 AM

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[quote=Lotus;1110301]Steve Young might challenge RGIII to really change his game. RGIII does not seem open to that.[/quote]

You may have hit the nail on the head, Lotus. It just feels like RGIII may need to fail here and move on to another team before he can become more coachable.

Chico23231 03-29-2015 09:11 AM

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f*ck steve young

Alvin Walton 03-29-2015 10:48 AM

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LOL....Tom Brady is crazy!!!

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000482041/article/tom-brady-sends-pats-fans-into-frenzy-by-cliff-jumping]Tom Brady sends Pats fans into frenzy by cliff jumping - NFL.com[/url]

skinsfan69 03-29-2015 01:29 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1110313]You may have hit the nail on the head, Lotus. It just feels like RGIII may need to fail here and move on to another team before he can become more coachable.[/quote]

It's probably hard for a lot of fans to admit, but maybe Griffin just isn't that good of a QB. He can work with whoever he wants. If he can't read the coverage, diagnosis what the defense is doing and then throw to the open guy, it really makes no difference.

DynamiteRave 03-29-2015 07:35 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1110320]It's probably hard for a lot of fans to admit, but maybe Griffin just isn't that good of a QB. He can work with whoever he wants. If he can't read the coverage, diagnosis what the defense is doing and then throw to the open guy, it really makes do difference.[/quote]

I think it's a real possibility. But this year will be the most telling. After this season, I will be ready to make a firm decision one way or another.

I feel like a lot of people still aren't ready to come to terms with the fact we may have screwed ourselves for several years for no reason. But I think that it's not unreal to think along those lines.

That Guy 03-30-2015 10:22 AM

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well, you can't assume just because we gave up a lot of picks that that guarantees we'll get a good player. that's why giving up that much is generally a mistake.

what i don't like is that i don't think it was lack of talent, but that his mindset wasn't right and he thought he was a lot better than he was/is. so instead of spending his time getting better and learning to read defenses/set up and stay in the pocket (instead of running outside it play after play), he's wasted his time and is still basically a rookie QB (that isn't fast any more).

Chico23231 03-30-2015 12:29 PM

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12586259/josh-heupel-helped-sam-bradford-philadelphia-eagles-decide-not-quit]Josh Heupel helped Sam Bradford of Philadelphia Eagles decide not to quit - ESPN[/url]

probably hurts Bradford trade value going forward. And if he does stay with Philly (not buying he does) its good to know mentally he's not all in.


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