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Whaaaaaaaaaa,whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-pulls-republican-national-convention-013520868.html[/url]

Trump Pulls Republican National Convention From North Carolina

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[quote=Giantone;1252532]Whaaaaaaaaaa,whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-pulls-republican-national-convention-013520868.html[/url]

Trump Pulls Republican National Convention From North Carolina

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It's not that surprising. Shouldn't be too hard to find some middle-America Trump stronghold that still thinks the 'rona is a liberal-Chinese conspiracy. It was easy to see this coming since NC's new Democratic governor didn't wanna play ball.

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[quote=mooby;1252534]It's not that surprising. Shouldn't be too hard to find some middle-America Trump stronghold that still thinks the 'rona is a liberal-Chinese conspiracy. It was easy to see this coming since NC's new Democratic governor didn't wanna play ball.[/quote]

I thought maybe turtle face McConnell would try to keep him in line but guess not.

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[quote=MTK;1252516]Common sense[/quote]

Just FWIW, That's how Donald Trump justifies a lot of his beliefs, or what some may call "alternative facts". He claims common sense on the matter, or a "gut feeling"

I'm not comparing you to Trump, just to be clear, but "common sense" as the only justification / validation of something is a weak argument, IMO. All due respect.

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[quote=SunnySide;1252526][IMG]https://i.redd.it/7c2o4u6s3q251.jpg[/IMG]

Cops destroying medical supplies and slashing water bottles meant for the protestors.

25% of the "protestors" are assholes

25% of the officers are assholes

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half of our society are assholes

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[B]I honestly feel bad for Melania.

Just divorce him already.[/quote][/B]

Why would you feel bad for someone who obviously married just for money? She knew what kind of guy he was. When they met he was w/ another women and she still gave him her number. lol. Melania knew how to play the game. I have zero sorrow for her ass.

Now she is stuck with his bloated ass for the time being. She was probably thinking he'd be near death right about now. He probably hasn't seen a salad in years. She was thinking by the time I'm 50 he'll die off and I can go spend his money on a boy toy. Instead she's in a job she obviously hates.

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[quote=mooby;1252534]It's not that surprising. Shouldn't be too hard to find some middle-America Trump stronghold that still thinks the 'rona is a liberal-Chinese conspiracy. It was easy to see this coming since NC's new Democratic governor didn't wanna play ball.[/quote]

The virus has all but disappeared on CNN's narrative. The LA mayor basically refused to open anything. Now he's in the middle of the streets w/ thousands of people praying. What a joke.

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[quote=MTK;1252497]This blame the media stuff is so tired. Sorry, not buying that people fear police only because of the media.[/quote]

Then what else is it? I can not tell you how many times I've been stopped over the years. Not one time did I ever fear for my life. I know for a fact that if I get stopped today I'm not getting shot or killed.

I got pulled over in Del Mar Ca couple years ago. A black man in a nice car, ran a stop sign. Del Mar is about as white a town as you will find. NO BLACK PEOPLE LIVE THERE. The cop gave me a warning cause I was nice to him. He asked me where I was coming from. Instead of getting smart w/ him I said, " my gf lives here and I'm going to her house after a round of golf" .. he asked me what my handicap was cause he played too.

What happened to Floyd was despicable and it angered me. But when a cop pulls you over, you simply have to put your ego aside and comply. They have the power, you don't.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1252545][/B]

Why would you feel bad for someone who obviously married just for money? She knew what kind of guy he was. When they met he was w/ another women and she still gave him her number. lol. Melania knew how to play the game. I have zero sorrow for her ass.

Now she is stuck with his bloated ass for the time being. She was probably thinking he'd be near death right about now. He probably hasn't seen a salad in years. She was thinking by the time I'm 50 he'll die off and I can go spend his money on a boy toy. Instead she's in a job she obviously hates.[/quote]

Is it no longer PC to refer to a women as a gold digger these days? Obviously Trump breaks all the rules for someone holding high political office. Twice he traded wives in for newer models, it is obvious he views women as mostly sex objects. Any other person striving for or in high office wants to stay married to keep their image, and try to cover up any evidence of womanizing or sexualizing women.

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[URL="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/james-mattis-denounces-trump-protests-militarization/612640/"]James Mattis Denounces President Trump, Describes Him as a Threat to the Constitution[/URL]

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[quote=skinsfan69;1252547]Then what else is it? I can not tell you how many times I've been stopped over the years. Not one time did I ever fear for my life. I know for a fact that if I get stopped today I'm not getting shot or killed.

I got pulled over in Del Mar Ca couple years ago. A black man in a nice car, ran a stop sign. Del Mar is about as white a town as you will find. NO BLACK PEOPLE LIVE THERE. The cop gave me a warning cause I was nice to him. He asked me where I was coming from. Instead of getting smart w/ him I said, " my gf lives here and I'm going to her house after a round of golf" .. he asked me what my handicap was cause he played too.

What happened to Floyd was despicable and it angered me. But when a cop pulls you over, you simply have to put your ego aside and comply. They have the power, you don't.[/quote]

I used to go to Del Mar Race Track a couple times every summer from the late 70's to early 90's. You might find a couple black guys at the track. We would always hit the Fish Market if we won some decent money. Looks like it is still in business. I wonder what the locals think of the place? I wonder if it just attracts race track fans and other tourists, a so called tourist trap.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1252546]The virus has all but disappeared on CNN's narrative. The LA mayor basically refused to open anything. Now he's in the middle of the streets w/ thousands of people praying. What a joke.[/QUOTE]

The media is the enemy of the people period. Who needs Russia, when you a media constantly dividing the country with its lying bullshit and bias subjective opinions passed as facts. Suppressing some stories while raising others to build narrative not based in facts and data.

Remember, just a couple weeks so-call media companies attacked Actual peaceful protests for lockdown restrictions. They attacked governors who lifted restrictions in Texas, Florida and Georgia while praising others whose decisions cost people lives. Guess what, Georgia, Florida and Texas were right...check the fucking data. The constantly whining about the beaches open while northern governors forces nursing homes to take folks with the virus.

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[quote=Chico23231;1252555]The media is the enemy of the people period. Who needs Russia, when you a media constantly dividing the country with its lying bullshit and bias subjective opinions passed as facts. Suppressing some stories while raising others to build narrative not based in facts and data.

Remember, just a couple weeks so-call media companies attacked Actual peaceful protests for lockdown restrictions. They attacked governors who lifted restrictions in Texas, Florida and Georgia while praising others whose decisions cost people lives. Guess what, Georgia, Florida and Texas were right...check the fucking data. The constantly whining about the beaches open while northern governors forces nursing homes to take folks with the virus.[/quote]

I don't agree with you on everything Chico, as that is just human nature, but you are 100% spot on with this one.

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[QUOTE]The President is the enemy of the people period. Who needs Russia, when you have a President constantly dividing the country with his lying bullshit and bias subjective opinions passed as facts.[/QUOTE]

Interesting how this works

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[URL="https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/06/trump-has-flooded-dc-with-law-enforcement-officers-who-wont-identify-themselves/"]Trump Has Flooded DC With Law Enforcement Officers Who Won’t Identify Themselves[/URL]

a little concerning

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[quote=skinsfan69;1252547]Then what else is it? I can not tell you how many times I've been stopped over the years. Not one time did I ever fear for my life. I know for a fact that if I get stopped today I'm not getting shot or killed.

I got pulled over in Del Mar Ca couple years ago. A black man in a nice car, ran a stop sign. Del Mar is about as white a town as you will find. NO BLACK PEOPLE LIVE THERE. The cop gave me a warning cause I was nice to him. He asked me where I was coming from. Instead of getting smart w/ him I said, " my gf lives here and I'm going to her house after a round of golf" .. he asked me what my handicap was cause he played too.

What happened to Floyd was despicable and it angered me. But when a cop pulls you over, you simply have to put your ego aside and comply. They have the power, you don't.[/quote]

I think that's why we have to have this discussion again. Floyd was in full compliance. He died because a store thought his $20 bill was fake. And as long as these type scenarios keep happening, we are going to have protests (which will eventually be overran by rioters and looters demeaning the cause).

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[QUOTE=MTK;1252559]Interesting how this works[/QUOTE]

Any criticism of the President by the press or others is completely fine. That’s not my argument...he’s certainly earned the criticism and how he has handled things from covid to the Floyd murder, I have a lot of issues with.

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[quote=Chico23231;1252555]The media is the enemy of the people period. Who needs Russia, when you a media constantly dividing the country with its lying bullshit and bias subjective opinions passed as facts. Suppressing some stories while raising others to build narrative not based in facts and data.

Remember, just a couple weeks so-call media companies attacked Actual peaceful protests for lockdown restrictions. They attacked governors who lifted restrictions in Texas, Florida and Georgia while praising others whose decisions cost people lives. Guess what, Georgia, Florida and Texas were right...check the fucking data. The constantly whining about the beaches open while northern governors forces nursing homes to take folks with the virus.[/quote]

Ok Chico, I'll play your game. The media is enemy #1, not the innocent president. How do you fix it?

In my simple minded view, Congress needs to bring back the Fairness Doctrine, updated for the 21st century of course. Force the news outlets (especially Fox News and CNN) to present both sides of an issue.

BTW I agree, the 'rona is still raging and it's been put on the backburner since Floyd died. But it's easy to see why because people have been protesting police brutality/the system since long before the 'rona came along.

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[quote=mooby;1252564]Ok Chico, I'll play your game. The media is enemy #1, not the innocent president. How do you fix it?

In my simple minded view, Congress needs to bring back the Fairness Doctrine, updated for the 21st century of course. Force the news outlets (especially Fox News and CNN) to present both sides of an issue.

BTW I agree, the 'rona is still raging and it's been put on the backburner since Floyd died. But it's easy to see why because people have been protesting police brutality/the system since long before the 'rona came along.[/quote]

Lol you never include MSNBC? They represent viewpoints just fine? 😂

No to any legislation.

Anyone can protest, just don’t bullshit saying one cause is ok and the other isn’t. Feeding kids, paying rent, is important to a lot of folks....just as the police brutality. It’s dishonest how the media picks and chooses who to criticize...don’t feed me bullshit that this is a terrible disease two weeks ago but it’s not now. That’s bullshit and dishonest. There aren’t Rona exceptions

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Also one thing i notice that is troubling, is that a large portion of the violent protestors seem to be of the mindset that they wanted everything shut down permanently over coronavirus, they were too afraid to leave their homes because of the fear of death, but then when the George Floyd travesty happened, everyone went outside like it was no problem. All of a sudden coming into contact with people was okay again. Not sure what to make of that.

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Front page Rona news for you Chico, hot off the presses

[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/world/coronavirus-us-update.html"]Coronavirus Live Updates: Cases Worldwide Multiply at Fastest Pace Yet[/URL]

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[quote=Chico23231;1252565]Lol you never include MSNBC? They represent viewpoints just fine? 😂

No to any legislation.

Anyone can protest, just don’t bullshit saying one cause is ok and the other isn’t. Feeding kids, paying rent, is important to a lot of folks....just as the police brutality. It’s dishonest how the media picks and chooses who to criticize...don’t feed me bullshit that this is a terrible disease two weeks ago but it’s not now. That’s bullshit and dishonest. There aren’t Rona exceptions[/quote]

I said "Force the news outlets"

That includes all outlets that present themselves as news.

Embarrassing, even for you Chico.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1252566]Also one thing i notice that is troubling, [B]is that a large portion of the violent protestors seem to be of the mindset that they wanted everything shut down permanently over coronavirus[/B], they were too afraid to leave their homes because of the fear of death, but then when the George Floyd travesty happened, everyone went outside like it was no problem. All of a sudden coming into contact with people was okay again. Not sure what to make of that.[/quote]

They did? You're basing this on what exactly

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[quote=mooby;1252568]I said "Force the news outlets"

That includes all outlets that present themselves as news.

Embarrassing, even for you Chico.[/quote]

Even though we mention cable news, NBC and CBS have been terrible.

Yeah no legislation or even forced doctrine...my bad Mooby.

Journalism has a standard of ethics, some publications even post it. It’s certainly gotten out of hand and social media has made it worse. Opinion have been elevated...they are all tabloid. Some clearly racist and anti Semitic.

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[quote=mooby;1252561]I think that's why we have to have this discussion again. Floyd was in full compliance. He died because a store thought his $20 bill was fake. And as long as these type scenarios keep happening, we are going to have protests (which will eventually be overran by rioters and looters demeaning the cause).[/quote]

I highly doubt he was in full compliance. But it doesn't matter if he was or wasn't. He should not have ended up dead.

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The media is the enemy of the people???

solution - read various news sources from different platforms then make your own personal decision on what you believe.

Id also recommend not considering people like Jimmy Kimmel or Adam Carrola as media or a source for you to get your news.

Thats the easy one. Be an adult. Use your adult brain. Make and form adult decisions and thoughts.

The hard one is trying to understand or brace for the coronavirus effect to all these protests. Even George Floyd tested positive for Corona.

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[quote=SunnySide;1252572][B]The media is the enemy of the people???
[/B]
solution - read various news sources from different platforms then make your own personal decision on what you believe.

Id also recommend not considering people like Jimmy Kimmel or Adam Carrola as media or a source for you to get your news.

Thats the easy one. Be an adult. Use your adult brain. Make and form adult decisions and thoughts.

The hard one is trying to understand or brace for the coronavirus effect to all these protests. Even George Floyd tested positive for Corona.[/quote]

You don't see that? I won't even mention most media leans left, but most of all media sources report with bias and only tell one side of the story. It takes quite a bit of digging these days to get the whole story and most people don't do that. The media divides people these days, plain and simple.

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[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/buffalo-police-shove-protester-unrest.html"]Buffalo Police Officers Suspended After Shoving 75-Year-Old Protester[/URL]

:doh:

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[quote=MTK;1252583][URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/buffalo-police-shove-protester-unrest.html"]Buffalo Police Officers Suspended After Shoving 75-Year-Old Protester[/URL]

:doh:[/quote]

.........[COLOR="Red"]doesn't count, it was white on white.[/COLOR]

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[quote=MTK;1252583][URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/buffalo-police-shove-protester-unrest.html"]Buffalo Police Officers Suspended After Shoving 75-Year-Old Protester[/URL]

:doh:[/quote]

That guy could die. Shame to those police officers.

I like and respect police officers, I am white dude living in white suburb. Unless i am speeding the cops never bother me. I do recall a time when i was a youth between 16 and say 25, i lived on a small island (Newport, RI) and the cops would look and harass young males in groups or what ever. Definitely not to the extent African Americans feel on a daily basis, still even at the level they were bugging us it was a sicking feeling every time you saw a cop you knew they were going bug you about something.

Anywho, last night i went to Rita's and two police officers walked in for some odd reason i got that feeling again. My son (12) immediately pulled at me and nodded his head towards the police. When we got in the car i asked why he had pointed out the cops. He said i don't know they make me nervous (he has never had any run in's with cops). I wondered if he felt my anxiety.

The whole situation sadden me. One i was like what has this world come too and two its got suck to be a person of color and have to deal with that feeling everyday with the police.

Ok done rambling.

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Anyone want to post the cops ambushed, injured and killed during the riots so far?

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[quote=Chico23231;1252588]Anyone want to post the cops ambushed, injured and killed so far during the riots so far?[/quote]

Pretty sure no one here is advocating for any Police to be shot chico or endorsing it. There is good and bad on all side of this discussion. I will say right off the bat I get upset at the treatment of blacks by Police in general and that includes Black on Black treatment by Police ,I have a black grandson and I worry about him constantly. I all so believe that BLM's is a racist organisation and if they truly believed in the change of Police culture would change the name. Right ,wrong or indifferent many White Americans becuase of the name will not listen to them . BLM's needs to condemn the killing of anyone Police bystanders anyone and make pleas against the violence if they want all of America on their side.

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[quote=Chico23231;1252588]Anyone want to post the cops ambushed, injured and killed so far during the riots so far?[/quote]

............according to you chico all news is fake .

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[quote=Giantone;1252590]Pretty sure no one here is advocating for any Police to be shot chico or endorsing it. [B]There is good and bad on all side of this discussion.[/B] I will say right off the bat I get upset at the treatment of blacks by Police in general and that includes Black on Black treatment by Police ,I have a black grandson and I worry about him constantly. I all so believe that BLM's is a racist organisation and if they truly believed in the change of Police culture would change the name. Right ,wrong or indifferent many White Americans becuase of the name will not listen to them . BLM's needs to condemn the killing of anyone Police bystanders anyone and make pleas against the violence if they want all of America on their side.[/quote]

Lol...so fucking rich.....I’ve heard someone else say that one....lol

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[quote=Giantone;1252591]............according to you chico all news is fake .[/quote]

Not those unemployment and payroll increase numbers


People are so mad too...lololololol.

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Trump taking a victory lap while the country is in chaos

So clueless

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[quote=MTK;1252594]Trump taking a victory lap while the country is in chaos

So clueless[/quote]

You're right. You should be in charge. So what is the first thing you would do if you became president right now to end the rioting and bring everything under control?

I'm tired of seeing the Trump hate no matter what. I am probably the only Democrat you know that will tell you that I don't believe Donald Trump is the reason for every single problem befalling America right now.

The May unemployment numbers were far better than what the "experts" predicted. Once again, "experts" are completely wrong, just like they were about Coronavirus and every other thing that they have ever predicted, but yet we trust them.

Under normal circumstances we would be allowed to be happy about that, as it is a sign that the U.S. Economy is getting under control again and now the rebuilding has began. Probably by the end of the month unemployment numbers will be around 6 or 7%, possibly lower, a far cry from the 24.4% it was in just a few months ago. Normally we would be happy. Nope, if Trump talks about that, it's bad! We have to wish for death to the US Economy so that people can blame it on Trump!

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It's like doing a TD dance when you're down big in the 4th. Clueless.

A good jobs report is definitely a good thing, but unemployment is still sky high and we're not anywhere near being done with the virus. Again, clueless.

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Anyone consider the people negatively impacted by allowing these mass protests to continue? They have more than gotten their point across. I am pretty sure many in the crowds are just there to be there. I had a friend decades ago when home internet was starting to grow in popularity that belonged to a network of people who would attend about any protest under the sun as long as the cause didn't have a Republican leaning label on it. Of course those are very rare in numbers and definitely in volume. I wonder how many of his type are in the crowd? How many people in the crowd would have been doing other things if the country was business as usual?

On a different note from all the stories coming out, including Chauvin having to be often told by his boss at his side job stop getting hardcore with customers, it is pretty obvious the jack ass had been a ticking time bomb for a long, long time.

He supposedly had a well stocked complaint file with the PD. I believe everyone of those needs to be reviewed and all those involved that never meted out any discipline to Chauvin be held accountable. The dude should have been fired ages ago. Maybe if a direct supervisor of a rogue cop often gets fired for not having better over sight, more of the bad apples will get weeded out, before they do something horrendous.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1252597]Anyone consider the people negatively impacted by allowing these mass protests to continue? They have more than gotten their point across. I am pretty sure many in the crowds are just there to be there. I had a friend decades ago when home internet was starting to grow in popularity that belonged to a network of people who would attend about any protest under the sun as long as the cause didn't have a Republican leaning label on it. Of course those are very rare in numbers and definitely in volume. I wonder how many of his type are in the crowd? How many people in the crowd would have been doing other things if the country was business as usual?

On a different note from all the stories coming out, including Chauvin having to be often told by his boss at his side job stop getting hardcore with customers, it is pretty obvious the jack ass had been a ticking time bomb for a long, long time.

He supposedly had a well stocked complaint file with the PD. I believe everyone of those needs to be reviewed and all those involved that never meted out any discipline to Chauvin be held accountable. The dude should have been fired ages ago. Maybe if a direct supervisor of a rogue cop often gets fired for not having better over sight, more of the bad apples will get weeded out, before they do something horrendous.[/quote]

To your point i think this speech by killer mike is very good.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSWasOhArfM[/url]

I do agree i am not sure what the protesting does, i guess lets govt show you are angry and gives you an opportunity to vent but i am not sure it effectively changes anything.

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[url]https://amp.dailycaller.com/2020/06/05/15-people-died-protests-riots-george-floyd-death?__twitter_impression=true[/url]

The 15 people who have died at the protest and riots. Here are their stories:


Good piece here.


The fact the President is celebrating good news is a nice change. Reviewed actual policies and funding to minority communities, which is for some reason overlooked by liberal and the press. He also made a point to state the virus is not over and we have a ways to go.

But you can’t deny great progress in the virus numbers and data as well as the excellent economy news