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MTG for speaker calling it now

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Man these 20 keep moving the goal posts lol

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Face it , the holdouts want to run(chair) certain Committees and that is the problem

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I think the brilliant part here is being played by the Democrats. They are sitting back letting the GOP really ruin their own image. It's not like they can go back home and blame the Dems for this shit. This is squarely on the GOP. What a clown show. Even Hannity is saying it is.

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[quote=Giantone;1335086]Face it , the holdouts want to run(chair) certain Committees and that is the problem[/quote]

Not only that, but they are wanting Kevin to throw out certain Dems on committees. That shit isn't going to fly, because as soon as the GOP lose the house again, the Dems will strip any GOP they want from a committee assignment. I imagine Kevin isn't going to sign on to something like that.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1335128]Not only that, but they are wanting Kevin to throw out certain Dems on committees. That shit isn't going to fly, because as soon as the GOP lose the house again, the Dems will strip any GOP they want from a committee assignment. I imagine Kevin isn't going to sign on to something like that.[/quote]

Hopefully, he just lost on his 10 vote. It's not looking good.

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This must be unprecedented. Didn't really register until seeing a clip of Maxine Waters being upset she actually had to work, that democrats have to keep voting too, for house speaker. I hope this goes to 100 attempts.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1335148]This must be unprecedented. Didn't really register until seeing a clip of Maxine Waters being upset she [B][B]actually had to work, [/B][/B]that democrats have to keep voting too, for house speaker. I hope this goes to 100 attempts.[/quote]


You consider this work for congress? I am surprised you are enjoying this. I thought you would be annoyed about politicians sitting around getting paid doing nothing for the country.

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Progressives now putting their fingers in the their ears pretending in 2020 when they had the same leverage with Pelosi…they didn’t do the samething and simply got in line like the COWARDS they are.

It’s because they rather keep fundraising off the same lies, than actually do anything


Maxine Waters…lol. Lives in a multi million dollar mansion, profiting of American tax payers while keeping her own constituents broke, desperate and most of all, dumb with her bullshit promises. Same democrat shithole with poor education, poverty and violence problems…their only solutions is to ask for more money to burn thru and never get results

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1335168]You consider this work for congress? I am surprised you are enjoying this. [B]I thought you would be annoyed about politicians sitting around getting paid doing nothing for the country.[/B][/quote]

Well, when you put it this way, lol, it's not quite as enjoyable. But 99% of them don't do anything I want for this country when they are "doing something" anyways.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1335171]Well, when you put it this way, lol, it's not quite as enjoyable. But 99% of them don't do anything I want for this country when they are "doing something" anyways.[/quote]

That is true. I don't care if it takes them all year. I embrace chaos it makes me feel like I have some semblance of self control and maturity.

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Personally I think it would be great if the dems went to McCarthy said we will give you the votes as long as no one from freedom caucus is ever allowed to chair a committee while he is house leader a big f you to a bunch of crazies

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1335191]Personally I think it would be great if the dems went to McCarthy said we will give you the votes as long as no one from freedom caucus is ever allowed to chair a committee while he is house leader a big f you to a bunch of crazies[/quote]

I was hoping Byron Donalds was gonna hold on. I really like how he explains the issues to the voters. He has a good disposition and is a do’er.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1335191]Personally I think it would be great if the dems went to McCarthy said we will give you the votes as long as no one from freedom caucus is ever allowed to chair a committee while he is house leader a big f you to a bunch of crazies[/quote]

15 time is the charm and he did give in to the Freedom Caucus.

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By my count, this is Biden’s 60th trip to Delaware, spanning 192 days. Compares at same point in presidencies to:
Trump - 18 visits to Mar-a-Lago/79 days
GWBush - 19 trips to his Texas ranch/141 days.

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[quote=Chico23231;1335196]By my count, this is Biden’s 60th trip to Delaware, spanning 192 days. Compares at same point in presidencies to:
Trump - 18 visits to Mar-a-Lago/79 days
GWBush - 19 trips to his Texas ranch/141 days.[/quote]

LOL, you're a fucking moron.

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[quote=Chico23231;1335196]By my count, this is Biden’s 60th trip to Delaware, spanning 192 days. Compares at same point in presidencies to:
Trump - 18 visits to Mar-a-Lago/79 days
GWBush - 19 trips to his Texas ranch/141 days.[/quote]

[B]When you count do you take off your shoes?[/B]

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[quote=Chico23231;1335196]By my count, this is Biden’s 60th trip to Delaware, spanning 192 days. Compares at same point in presidencies to:
Trump - 18 visits to Mar-a-Lago/79 days
GWBush - 19 trips to his Texas ranch/141 days.[/quote]

Well to be fair Delaware is almost local.

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[quote=Giantone;1335215][B]When you count do you take off your shoes?[/B][/quote]

Are you even capable of being civil in this forum? Of everyone who posts in this forum you provide the least to the board.

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[quote=nonniey;1335218]Are you even capable of being civil in this forum? Of everyone who posts in this forum you provide the least to the board.[/quote]

To chico , he doesn't deserve it. Maybe do a little research on him first before you decide to become the internet Police.

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[quote=Giantone;1335775]To chico , he doesn't deserve it. Maybe do a little research on him first before you decide to become the internet Police.[/quote]

I stand by my comments you have provided more than enough fodder to support them over the past 2 years.

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Well one thing the MAGA wing can now be pounded on is their mantra of draining the swamp. What could be more swampy and contribute to the deeping of "the swamp," than demanding and succeeding in eviscerating the House ethics board and blocking ethics investigations?

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I see a lot of coping today. Looks like Joe mishandled classified documents himself and couldn’t have de-classified them as VP doesn’t have that legal ability.

[url]https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-classified-documents-remarks-haunt-him-1772585[/url]

Joe Biden's Classified Documents Remarks Come Back to Haunt Him

Biden added: "And I thought what data was in there that may compromise sources and methods. By that, I mean, names of people who helped or et cetera. And it's just totally irresponsible."

Since 2017? Agree Joe, very irresponsible

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^^^^^

This post coming today was as guaranteed as the sun coming up. Almost as guaranteed as G1 coming shortly to tell you to STFU.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1335831]^^^^^

This post coming today was as guaranteed as the sun coming up. Almost as guaranteed as G1 coming shortly to tell you to STFU.[/quote]

Thank you both, again proving me correct.

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I waited to see if anyone want to chat about it so I could walk in here like

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[quote=Giantone;1335834]Thank you both, again proving me correct.[/quote]

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Could easily put this in the WTF thread. So sad what is happening in Haiti, yet we have a policy under "white foot , brown foot" where we keep Cubans that flee their country and land in Florida but return Haitians to this

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/10/haiti-no-elected-officials-anarchy-failed-state[/url]

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1335888]Could easily put this in the WTF thread. So sad what is happening in Haiti, yet we have a policy under "white foot , brown foot" where we keep Cubans that flee their country and land in Florida but return Haitians to this

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/10/haiti-no-elected-officials-anarchy-failed-state[/url][/quote]

That country feels broken beyond repair.

Seems like the only possible answers are for either:

Countries from outside of Haiti to come together and declare war on all the gangs, then set-up a democratic vote, and then stick around long enough to let it get established.

Or

Have an alliance of countries come together and make a decision to basically clear the island and let every single person that wants to leave go to 1 of those countries.

Both of those options obviously come with lots of issues. And I don't know if that country has enough resources or economic future, to get outside countries to truly care about Haiti.

It's really sad. Sucks for the millions of Haitians that are good people that just want to be able to have a decent life.

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Bmore, you know what actually does piss me off? D.C. operates like a stereotypical movie about high school girls.

Now republicans in the house are going to insist on all these investigations into random things, not because it will change anything, but because it's some sort of revenge.

Chance to be adults? No thanks.

I wish the message was simply, we're going to draft legislation to the best of our abilities in accordance with what our constituents want. For that reason alone, we want to represent our constituents.

Both parties do an amazing job of keeping a shitty house but shifting the focus to the other side having an even worse house. If you have 10 piles of shit on your own floor, your neighbor having 11 piles, doesn't justify your 10 piles of shit.

Fix your shit 1st, then possibly talk about other people's problems.

It won't ever change under a 2 party system though.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1335888]Could easily put this in the WTF thread. So sad what is happening in Haiti, yet we have a policy under "white foot , brown foot" where we keep Cubans that flee their country and land in Florida but return Haitians to this

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/10/haiti-no-elected-officials-anarchy-failed-state[/url][/quote]

Yeah .. was reading about this yesterday

Haiti is so close and we wouldnt have to worry about the ME logistics and geo politics

Id love for us to get involved but with our country divided/looming recession it would just be gas on fire

and of course .. haiti has zero resources or value to us

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1335888]Could easily put this in the WTF thread. So sad what is happening in Haiti, yet we have a policy under "white foot , brown foot" where we keep Cubans that flee their country and land in Florida but return Haitians to this

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/10/haiti-no-elected-officials-anarchy-failed-state[/url][/quote]

I worked with a older guy from South Africa about 15 years ago who’s good friend was a some sort of civil engineer who worked extensively with Haiti during Clinton era and maybe post era.

The US pour money like a spout into Haiti, advised and worked with the government to help the plight. I specifically remember this quote from him about what he said about Haiti after failing it…..the only way Haiti could succeed is if half the population died.

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Haiti's societal corruption is well documented but they suffer from problems beyond their control as well. The french had about three times the number of slaves as the Spanish but only a third of the island. There were significantly larger population with less land and resources to start, but the bigger issue is the island has a rain shadow.

The atmosphere has to rise over the mountains in the center of the island to get to Haiti. Doing so the air, cools condenses and drops all the precipitation on the DR side, leaving less precipitation for Haiti.

Less precipitation less agricultural productivity. Less tree regrowth which is the dominant fuel resource in the country. No food and no fuel to cook it with or boil your drinking water. Your work friend is right the population exceeds the carrying capacity. Even then the corruption that would exist would make it fail.

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[quote=SunnySide;1335983]Yeah .. was reading about this yesterday

Haiti is so close and we wouldnt have to worry about the ME logistics and geo politics

Id love for us to get involved but with our country divided/looming recession it would just be gas on fire

and of course .. haiti has zero resources or value to us[/quote]


A major concern is the potential collapse of the DR. Eventually this will flood over the border more. 50 years ago making this a US territory would make sense if the government (s) would agree to it. Now...

Anybody wonder if China or Russia would step in make a favorable political ally in our backyard? I wouldn't be surprised if China did this.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1335993]Haiti's societal corruption is well documented but they suffer from problems beyond their control as well. The french had about three times the number of slaves as the Spanish but only a third of the island. There were significantly larger population with less land and resources to start, but the bigger issue is the island has a rain shadow.

The atmosphere has to rise over the mountains in the center of the island to get to Haiti. Doing so the air, cools condenses and drops all the precipitation on the DR side, leaving less precipitation for Haiti.

Less precipitation less agricultural productivity. Less tree regrowth which is the dominant fuel resource in the country. No food and no fuel to cook it with or boil your drinking water. Your work friend is right the population exceeds the carrying capacity. Even then the corruption that would exist would make it fail.[/quote]

I think sometimes when we here about the drought issues in the west…especially arid based landscapes, what did you think would happen? Doesn’t seem logical to have millions living in an environment that has adopted to having low water availability to survive.

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[quote=Chico23231;1335996]I think sometimes when we here about the drought issues in the west…especially arid based landscapes, what did you think would happen? Doesn’t seem logical to have millions living in an environment that has adopted to having low water availability to survive.[/quote]


Yup water diversion and ground water withdrawal increases are through the roof. There are some interesting technology propositions going out including water pipelines from the Great Lakes (bad idea) or water pipelines from Mississippi river ( a much better idea) but that won't stop future population growth in those areas.

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[quote=Chico23231;1335835]I waited to see if anyone want to chat about it so I could walk in here like][/quote]


You really are stupid. I mean really!



[url]https://news.yahoo.com/theres-key-difference-between-classified-004201530.html[/url]


[B][SIZE="6"]Business Insider
There's a key difference between the classified documents found at a former Biden office and the ones Trump kept at Mar-a-Lago, national security expert says[/SIZE][/B]



CBS News reported Monday classified documents were found at an office used by President Joe Biden.

The documents were found by Biden's attorneys and provided to the National Archives.

A legal expert said Biden's team appeared to have done "exactly what you're supposed to do."

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[url]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-aides-find-second-batch-classified-documents-new-location-nbc-news-2023-01-11/[/url]

Biden aides find second batch of classified documents at new location -NBC News


A second batch of classified documents? You don’t say? The key takeaway, VP cannot de-classify, unlike President Trump.

But looks like Biden absolutely did not handle and secure classified documents.