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[quote=Chico23231;1337656]People are living longer tho. From what I read, SS can be fixed easier. Medicare is gonna be the problem

Biden been advocating for cuts, reforms in SS up to the late 2000s[/quote]

Covid changed that apparently. US has posted a decrease in life expectancy the past 2 years.

So we live longer .. so we work longer.

The finish line of the rat race keeps getting pushed farther and farther from us.

Capitalism really is a matrix social construct.

Im fine, I took the blue pill a long time ago. Let me enjoy my steak, cable tv, weed, beer, go home team sports! .. and Ill wake up everyday like a robot and get behind that wheel of my car and get in that commuter slug line.

260 days a year. Every year until my battery dies and I go face down on a keyboard in a non-corner office.

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[quote=MTK;1337691]Hilarious

[URL="https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/08/media/republicans-hearing-twitter-bias-reliable-sources/index.html"]Republicans held a hearing to prove Twitter’s bias against them. It backfired in spectacular fashion[/URL][/quote]

“I am aware of no unlawful collusion with, or direction from, any government agency or political campaign on how Twitter should have handled the Hunter Biden laptop situation,” James Baker, Twitter’s former deputy counsel, told the committee while under oath.

And Matt Taibbi, one of the journalists Musk handpicked last year to comb through Twitter’s internal messages for evidence of free speech violations, said himself that “there is no evidence — that I’ve seen — of any government involvement in the laptop story.”

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Pretty straight forward

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1337607]I think we have to get out of the mind set of a worthy punishment. Obviously there should be consequences but to what end? Punishment for the sake of punishment just leads to recidivism. There is no current outcome we have in place where this kid comes out of it and has great odds of becoming a solid citizen. IMO we have to develop something that gives these kids an opportunity to learn how to function in a society.

There also needs to be school reform. This is a K-8 school? In what minds in Florida and Miami-Dade think it is appropriate for a 14 year old to be in the same school building as a 5 year old? From a developmental standpoint that is woefully inappropriate.



[url]https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-spector-carjacking-mentoring-20171218-story.html[/url][/quote]

My kid is at a school where you have elementary and middle school in same building, hallways etc

Juvenile Court is about counseling and helping .. there is no guilty finding, there is no punishment. I worked on Juvie cases as a clerk and the courts/staff go way out of their way to help but some kids are just unhelpable

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[quote=SunnySide;1337653]I care about SS. Been paying into it since I was 14 working at baskin robins.

I just assume there will be nothing for me in 20 or so years when Im eligible.

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Fair to say the unspoken (or maybe spoken) point of raising the age limit for SS .. is so people die off and dont get to collect on what they put in?

Sounds .. a little morbid.[/quote]

Many of you are younger and hear some of the BS about SS. (not a shot I swear!)
this is pretty good.


[url]https://www.aarp.org/retirement/social-security/info-2020/10-myths-explained.html[/url]

[B]10 Social Security Myths That Refuse to Die[/B]

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[quote=Giantone;1337699]Many of you are younger and hear some of the BS about SS. (not a shot I swear!)
this is pretty good.


[url]https://www.aarp.org/retirement/social-security/info-2020/10-myths-explained.html[/url]

[B]10 Social Security Myths That Refuse to Die[/B][/quote]

Social Security does face funding challenges. For decades it collected more than it paid out, [B]building a surplus that stood at $2.85 trillion at the end of 2021[/B]. [B]But the system is starting to pay out more than it takes in[/B], largely because the retiree population is growing faster than the working population, and living longer. [B]Without changes in how Social Security is financed, the surplus is projected to run out in 2035[/B], according to the latest annual report from the program's trustees.

Even then, Social Security won't be broke. It will still collect tax revenue and pay benefits. But it will [B]only bring in enough to pay 80 percent of scheduled benefits[/B], according to the latest estimate. To avoid that outcome, Congress would need to take steps to shore up Social Security's finances, as it did in 1983, the last time the program nearly depleted its reserves. The steps then included raising the full retirement age (see Myth #2), increasing the payroll tax rate and introducing an income tax on benefits (see Myth #8).

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G .. how da fuq does that make me feel better?

2.85 TRILLION SURPLUS as of 2021 will be wiped out in 14 years?

Only pay 80% of its scheduled benefits?

If that shit is supposed to hit he fan in 2035 .. there wont be shit left over for me in the year 2049 when I (hopefully) turn 70.

Dang it .. its WORSE than I feared.

Am I reading this article wrong?

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Fuck the old people who enjoyed prosperous times and home affordability!!

raise the age limit!

Im republican on this .. fuck the old people, I want whats mine!

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[quote=SunnySide;1337702]Social Security does face funding challenges. For decades it collected more than it paid out, [B]building a surplus that stood at $2.85 trillion at the end of 2021[/B]. [B]But the system is starting to pay out more than it takes in[/B], largely because the retiree population is growing faster than the working population, and living longer. [B]Without changes in how Social Security is financed, the surplus is projected to run out in 2035[/B], according to the latest annual report from the program's trustees.

Even then, Social Security won't be broke. It will still collect tax revenue and pay benefits. But it will [B]only bring in enough to pay 80 percent of scheduled benefits[/B], according to the latest estimate. To avoid that outcome, Congress would need to take steps to shore up Social Security's finances, as it did in 1983, the last time the program nearly depleted its reserves. The steps then included raising the full retirement age (see Myth #2), increasing the payroll tax rate and introducing an income tax on benefits (see Myth #8).

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G .. how da fuq does that make me feel better?

2.85 TRILLION SURPLUS as of 2021 will be wiped out in 14 years?

Only pay 80% of its scheduled benefits?

If that shit is supposed to hit he fan in 2035 .. there wont be shit left over for me in the year 2049 when I (hopefully) turn 70.

Dang it .. its WORSE than I feared.

Am I reading this article wrong?[/quote]

As A-Rod would say, Relax.

The Gov't would have to go full retard to let the shit hit the fan on SS.

Deadlines spur action. So don't count on any serious reform until they have to.

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[quote=SunnySide;1337695]“I am aware of no unlawful collusion with, or direction from, any government agency or political campaign on how Twitter should have handled the Hunter Biden laptop situation,” James Baker, Twitter’s former deputy counsel, told the committee while under oath.

And Matt Taibbi, one of the journalists Musk handpicked last year to comb through Twitter’s internal messages for evidence of free speech violations, said himself that “there is no evidence — that I’ve seen — of any government involvement in the laptop story.”

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Pretty straight forward[/quote]

The gaslighting in the article is what fake news is made of. Darcy is a joke.

Let’s review the facts:

1. Hunter laptop story was NOT Russian disinformation campaign. CNN, NBC, Politico, ABC, NYT, Wa Post all spread misinformation stating it was. Another fake news narrative.
2. Twitter incorrectly censored the NY Post story which was true. Jim Baker, ex FBI top lawyer and Twitter council pushed for the censorship under a incorrect guidelines of hacked info. They never contacted anyone to verify if was hacked material.
3. Roth and Twitter was in regular contact with FBI to remove content they didn’t like…not content that was wrong
4. Roth communicated on “message deleting apps” with the FBI and other intelligence agencies
5. Roth and others shadow banned conservatives and politicians which restrict reach. Twitter under oath previously denied this.
6. Adam schift asked back channel Twitter executives for a journalist to be suspended directly. Democrats had back channel access to Twitter executives
7. Twitter banned the President, while allowing Iran supreme leader to call for the destruction of Israel on Twitter to remain. Other South American and Africa leaders had called for political violence, those accounts remained.
8. There was no major Russian Twitter campaign operations about the elections in 2020 or 2016.

The Twitter Stasi is dead and their bodies were on display yesterday. Those folks looked like an embarrassment

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[quote=Chico23231;1337709]The gaslighting in the article is what fake news is made of. Darcy is a joke.

Let’s review the facts:

1. Hunter laptop story was NOT Russian disinformation campaign. CNN, NBC, Politico, ABC, NYT, Wa Post all spread misinformation stating it was. Another fake news narrative.
2. Twitter incorrectly censored the NY Post story which was true. Jim Baker, ex FBI top lawyer and Twitter council pushed for the censorship under a incorrect guidelines of hacked info. They never contacted anyone to verify if was hacked material.
3. Roth and Twitter was in regular contact with FBI to remove content they didn’t like…not content that was wrong
4. Roth communicated on “message deleting apps” with the FBI and other intelligence agencies
5. Roth and others shadow banned conservatives and politicians which restrict reach. Twitter under oath previously denied this.
6. Adam schift asked back channel Twitter executives for a journalist to be suspended directly. Democrats had back channel access to Twitter executives
7. Twitter banned the President, while allowing Iran supreme leader to call for the destruction of Israel on Twitter to remain. Other South American and Africa leaders had called for political violence, those accounts remained.
8. There was no major Russian Twitter campaign operations about the elections in 2020 or 2016.

The Twitter Stasi is dead and their bodies were on display yesterday. Those folks looked like an embarrassment[/quote]

Chico .. nobody and I mean nobody gives a shit about twitter, what twitter does, what twitter did. A private company operating on whatever terms they want. No body gives a shit except you, MTG and a few other hold outs.

Majority of Americans are tired of hearing all the whining from the far right MAGAs about "lame stream media is sooo unfair to me, no person has been treated more unfairly by the media then by me in the history of the human race"

cry cry cry whine whine whine .. the far right crying for years about being attacked, targeted, treated unfairly .. suck it buttercups

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[quote=MTK;1337707]As A-Rod would say, Relax.

The Gov't would have to go full retard to let the shit hit the fan on SS.

Deadlines spur action. So don't count on any serious reform until they have to.[/quote]

But the "serious reform" = raising the age limit = fan covered in shit just slinging it around the room like a blender that lost its top

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[quote=SunnySide;1337712]Chico .. nobody and I mean nobody gives a shit about twitter, what twitter does, what twitter did. A private company operating on whatever terms they want. No body gives a shit except you, MTG and a few other hold outs.

Majority of Americans are tired of hearing all the whining from the far right MAGAs about "lame stream media is sooo unfair to me, no person has been treated more unfairly by the media then by me in the history of the human race"

cry cry cry whine whine whine .. the far right crying for years about being attacked, targeted, treated unfairly .. suck it buttercups[/quote]

This

110%

The right doesn't solve any issues or bring any solutions to the table, they just cry and whine

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Literally y’all whining about the facts and accountability…that makes me giggle.

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[quote=SunnySide;1337702]Social Security does face funding challenges. For decades it collected more than it paid out, [B]building a surplus that stood at $2.85 trillion at the end of 2021[/B]. [B]But the system is starting to pay out more than it takes in[/B], largely because the retiree population is growing faster than the working population, and living longer. [B]Without changes in how Social Security is financed, the surplus is projected to run out in 2035[/B], according to the latest annual report from the program's trustees.

Even then, Social Security won't be broke. It will still collect tax revenue and pay benefits. But it will [B]only bring in enough to pay 80 percent of scheduled benefits[/B], according to the latest estimate. To avoid that outcome, Congress would need to take steps to shore up Social Security's finances, as it did in 1983, the last time the program nearly depleted its reserves. The steps then included raising the full retirement age (see Myth #2), increasing the payroll tax rate and introducing an income tax on benefits (see Myth #8).

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G .. how da fuq does that make me feel better?

2.85 TRILLION SURPLUS as of 2021 will be wiped out in 14 years?

Only pay 80% of its scheduled benefits?

If that shit is supposed to hit he fan in 2035 .. there wont be shit left over for me in the year 2049 when I (hopefully) turn 70.

Dang it .. its WORSE than I feared.

Am I reading this article wrong?[/quote]

I doesn't . I'm old enough to take it but waiting till 70(3 years). It's reality so many lies out there, the facts need to be shown. All joking aside I was young and didn't give a shit and then got older and thought cool it's a retirement supplement. Medicare, everything has gone through the roof. I had a retirement plain but the cost of living over the last 10 years and the Market has killed it.

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[quote=Chico23231;1337717]Literally y’all whining about the facts and accountability…that makes me giggle.[/quote]

Six hour hearings about Twitter and who got their feelings hurt because they said dumb shit and got booted... surely there are more pressing issues facing the country right now. It's all theatrics and bullshit.

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[quote=MTK;1337722]Six hour hearings about Twitter and who got their feelings hurt because they said dumb shit and got booted... surely there are more pressing issues facing the country right now. It's all theatrics and bullshit.[/quote]

Documents and evidence were entered into record which showed the government and a private entity working to censor speech That highly illegal. I think it’s good to see this bubbling to the top.

Putin would agree, shadow banning and reducing the reach of political rivals across a large social media app would be great.

Social media, social media influence is one of the biggest issues in the country.

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[quote=Chico23231;1337725]Documents and evidence were entered into record which showed the government and a private entity working to censor speech That highly illegal. I think it’s good to see this bubbling to the top.

Putin would agree, shadow banning and reducing the reach of political rivals across a large social media app would be great.

Social media, social media influence is one of the biggest issues in the country.[/quote]

LOL tons of evidence and facts and documents entered in the Impeachment hearings also.

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What entitlements (non SS or medicare) can be massaged?

SNAP (food stamps) - floating idea of making it a work requirement if you arent disabled or with young child.

Id be for that .. but how much does that save? A tiny drop in bucket?

Plus 4 of top 5 states w population on food stamps are red:

- New Mexico (whopping 21.49% on food stamps?!)
- Louisiana
- Mississippi
- Oklahoma
- Alabama

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Conservatives are going to have a hard time finding things they can cut .. that their own constituents dont rely upon

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[quote=Chico23231;1337725]Documents and evidence were entered into record which showed the government and a private entity working to censor speech That highly illegal. I think it’s good to see this bubbling to the top.

Putin would agree, shadow banning and reducing the reach of political rivals across a large social media app would be great.

[B]Social media, social media influence is one of the biggest issues in the country[/B].[/quote]

What?? Are you serious? .. twitter is your biggest issue? News flash .. being on social media is a choice. I choose to not have twitter, facebook etc.

if you dont like twitter or tik tok .. use your god given american right to not go on twitter.

I just solved the biggest problem in your life.

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Real actual issues to me?

[B]Border/immigration[/B]? yes real issue conseravtives can harp on

[B]Health care[/B]? no one wants to touch that

[B]Affordable housing?[/B] .. nobody in congress talks about this

[B]Wages increasing w inflation[/B]? big issue .. fed workers and contractors get pay bumps all the time to reflect actual inflation .. private sector gets shit on while ocmpanies made B in profits

[B]affordable college/trade schools[/B] -- nobody does shit

^^ these are my middle class issues .. and the govt is worried about dick photos on hunters laptop, twitter and what bathroom 0.0009% of our population uses

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Problem is plenty of people on food stamps also work. Or there's a good reason why they don't work, like they're collecting disability.

Problem also lies with people not earning enough $$ to get off these programs. No reason why someone working full time should also need food stamps, in that case the tax payers are basically subsidizing these employers.

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[quote=MTK;1337729]Problem is plenty of people on food stamps also work. Or there's a good reason why they don't work, like they're collecting disability.

Problem also lies with people not earning enough $$ to get off these programs. No reason why someone working full time should also need food stamps, in that case the tax payers are basically subsidizing these employers.[/quote]

Living wage. Many work , some two Jobs and still can't make rent let alone save for retirement . At $50,000 do you think you can make , rent , utilities and food now a day? You can't. Rent , car payments ,Insurance ,utilities didn't even mention student loans and if you're lucky maybe some roman noodle's at night.

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[quote=MTK;1337729]Problem is plenty of people on food stamps also work. Or there's a good reason why they don't work, like they're collecting disability.

Problem also lies with people not earning enough $$ to get off these programs. No reason why someone working full time should also need food stamps, in that case the tax payers are basically subsidizing these employers.[/quote]

Affordable housing blows my mind. I drive through Silver Spring MD or Baltimore and its just new huge yuppy condo buildings being built 2 to 5 at a time.

Who are all these high end units being built for? I make a bit over 100k and I couldnt afford a 2.5k rent.

Am I a dinosaur? Are like 20 and early 30 somethings making 150k plus working from home, living this new work lifestyle?

I just got the bad luck of being the last passenger to board the departing "work hard, make shit" train that all the generations before me got on ...

Not knowing if I was a few years later in life, this new awesome "work less, pay more" train was going to be pulling into the station?

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Im depressed today

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[quote=SunnySide;1337731]Affordable housing blows my mind. I drive through Silver Spring MD or Baltimore and its just new huge yuppy condo buildings being built 2 to 5 at a time.

Who are all these high end units being built for? I make a bit over 100k and I couldnt afford a 2.5k rent.

Am I a dinosaur? Are like 20 and early 30 somethings making 150k plus working from home, living this new work lifestyle?

I just got the bad luck of being the last passenger to board the departing "work hard, make shit" train that all the generations before me got on ...

[COLOR="Red"]Not knowing if I was a few years later in life, this new awesome "work less, pay more" train was going to be pulling into the station?
[/COLOR]
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Im depressed today[/quote]

better...........

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[quote=SunnySide;1337731]Affordable housing blows my mind. I drive through Silver Spring MD or Baltimore and its just new huge yuppy condo buildings being built 2 to 5 at a time.

Who are all these high end units being built for? I make a bit over 100k and I couldnt afford a 2.5k rent.

Am I a dinosaur? Are like 20 and early 30 somethings making 150k plus working from home, living this new work lifestyle?

I just got the bad luck of being the last passenger to board the departing "work hard, make shit" train that all the generations before me got on ...

Not knowing if I was a few years later in life, this new awesome "work less, pay more" train was going to be pulling into the station?

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Im depressed today[/quote]

Yeah good question, I feel like I make pretty decent money and I see listings for places in my area and I can't understand who affords these places. Like 2 bedroom apartments renting for $2k a month? Or a modest 3 bedroom 1200 sq ft house going for $500k. WTF?

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I need to get married solely to have duel incomes. Making middle class money by yourself is tough to save up anything significant. Just getting by. Still blessed and fortunate, but it ain't easy. What a catch I will be lol.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1337734]I need to get married solely to have duel incomes. Making middle class money by yourself is tough to save up anything significant. Just getting by. [B]Still blessed and fortunate[/B], but it ain't easy. What a catch I will be lol.[/quote]

[IMG]https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/jeremiah_johnson_nodding.gif[/IMG]


Life is good

(I also ate .. maybe I wasnt depressed and just hungry?)

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[quote=SunnySide;1337735]Life is good

(I also ate .. maybe I wasnt depressed and just hungry?)[/quote]

LOL, I haven't seen my buddy in a while.

Everything is definitely worse when you're hungry.

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A classified briefing for House lawmakers on the Chinese spy balloon turned tense on Thursday when Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) went after administration officials for waiting days before shooting down the surveillance device.

“I had to wait in line the whole time. I was I think the second to last person, and I chewed them out just like the American people would’ve,” Greene told The Hill. “I tore ‘em to pieces.”

“When she got to ask questions,” the lawmaker recalled, “she was yelling out saying ‘bullshit,’ and, you know, ‘I don’t believe you.’”

“Just screaming and yelling, irrational in my estimation,” the lawmaker added.

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-briefing-china-spy-balloon-210421989.html[/url]

You were a part time fitness instructor a few years ago before doing "jewish lasers cause wild fires" podcasts ...

Suddenly shes an expert on spying and hot air balloons.

Nice job .. yelled "bullshit" to the actual smart people

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It's amazing how stupid you can look if you have no shame. She's the worst kind of person. She thinks she's smart and everyone else knows she's stupid. But you can't argue w/ someone like her. You just try to avoid them as much as possible.

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[url]https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/16/mystery-object-balloon-illinois-biden-00083355[/url]

A hobby group may have the answer to what the U.S. shot down over Canada last week
The FBI has reportedly reached out to an amateur club in Illinois that flies high-altitude balloons

The Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade, in a blog post that was first reported by Aviation Week, says one of its balloons went “missing in action” in the same region the U.S. military shot down


So Joe sent a $400k sidewinder at a ballon launched by the Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade? What fucking embarrassment. Just imagine if Bigly woulda done this? It would be front page on ever paper and 24/7 on all major news channels

What a clown

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[quote=Chico23231;1338145][url]https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/16/mystery-object-balloon-illinois-biden-00083355[/url]

A hobby group may have the answer to what the U.S. shot down over Canada last week
The FBI has reportedly reached out to an amateur club in Illinois that flies high-altitude balloons

The Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade, in a blog post that was first reported by Aviation Week, says one of its balloons went “missing in action” in the same region the U.S. military shot down


So Joe sent a $400k sidewinder at a ballon launched by the Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade? What fucking embarrassment. Just imagine if Bigly woulda done this? It would be front page on ever paper and 24/7 on all major news channels

What a clown[/quote]

The clown is you, you bitched when he was letting it fly over and now you bitch when they shoot them down. STFU!

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The Hot Air Balloon business must be taking a real hit right now.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1338154]The Hot Air Balloon business must be taking a real hit right now.[/quote]

Being conservative you might have a different take than I do on the regulation of this. I find it crazy that people can launch things into flight space where it might interfere with air travel. The FAA doesn't need to give approval for this? People who fly hot air balloons are required to submit their manifests why not people that fly car sized unmanned balloons?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1338154]The Hot Air Balloon business must be taking a real hit right now.[/quote]

They can’t even discern the Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade with the CCP…so yeah

The Clown Administration

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1338157]Being conservative you might have a different take than I do on the regulation of this. I find it crazy that people can launch things into flight space where it might interfere with air travel. The FAA doesn't need to give approval for this? People who fly hot air balloons are required to submit their manifests why not people that fly car sized unmanned balloons?[/quote]

Being that my biggest fear is dying in a plane crash, I don't mind rules for that. In all seriousness, I haven't really thought about it before. I'm indifferent on this subject.

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[quote=Chico23231;1338159]

The Clown Administration[/quote]

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[IMG]https://patch.com/img/cdn20/users/3883452/20170128/035215/styles/raw/public/article_images/trump_clown-1485636572-7536.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1338157]Being conservative you might have a different take than I do on the regulation of this. I find it crazy that people can launch things into flight space where it might interfere with air travel. The FAA doesn't need to give approval for this? People who fly hot air balloons are required to submit their manifests why not people that fly car sized unmanned balloons?[/quote]

Balloons weighing 6lbs or less are unregulated. I guess they assume at that weight they aren't a hazard.

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[quote=nonniey;1338163]Balloons weighing 6lbs or less are unregulated. I guess they assume at that weight they aren't a hazard.[/quote]

Byrd strikes are hazardous anything sucked into a jet engine is a hazard.

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[quote=nonniey;1338163]Balloons weighing 6lbs or less are unregulated. I guess they assume at that weight they aren't a hazard.[/quote]

I didn't know that. It is crazy to think that a balloon the size of a car is less than 6 pounds.

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[quote=Chico23231;1338159]They can’t even discern the Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade with the CCP…so yeah

The Clown Administration[/quote]

Military says take it down what should he do? I think you are being silly here

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[IMG]https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HRP6EN/french-military-surveillance-balloon-1794-HRP6EN.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dSvW51UF83M/TAPyyICVaAI/AAAAAAAAAB8/0kzie-d9fN4/s1600/BB%27s+along+the+Normandy+shore.jpg[/IMG]

I did not know they had military balloons in the 1800s

Thats cool

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coffee front - I love the grinder, fresh coffee, the Ox Bow thing is good ... but I cant find any local dark roasts I like

Mad City been there maybe 5 plus times now, ethiopian is my fav so far but none of them are flavorfull dark roasts

sadly my fav whole bean has been starbucks sumatra