Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

[QUOTE=SanFranSkinsFan]I agree. His best games were (1) replacing Brunell this year in win over Giants in MD and (2) his first game ever as a rookie, when he beat Tennessee in an amazing fashion in Nashville.....both of those games he came off the bench, maybe we should have kept him and made him be a backup? Nah, because Campbell's got a gun, too and runs the 40 yard dash WAY faster....but is Ramsey better than Todd Collins? I think so. He's definitely tougher than Pennington, good luck to Pat in the NFC and the JETS will need it this year (5-6 wins for Coles n' Crew).......[/QUOTE]
We should have held onto Patrick until Draft Day at least, if all we were getting was a 6th. We might have gotten at least a 4th round pick for him, he's way better than other backups like Ken Dorsey (eek), Tony Banks (remember him??), & Jeff Garcia (questionable) and could start for the Lions, Texans, Raiders, 49ers, Browns, etc, etc.... I guess that #6 mean Buges has his eyes on working out a ton on OL for the G and T back up spots, along with the other undrafted O-lineman that will be invited to camp.

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[QUOTE=backrow]Is it too early to start a Todd Collins vs. Brunnell controversy?[/QUOTE]

Controversy? How can there be a controversy? Collins is clearly superior to Brunell!

The stats don't lie. Collins has thrown just 19 interceptions in 11 seasons while Brunell, that turnover machine, has been picked 102 times in 12.

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

I heard Coles was campaigning for Ramsey when Pennington got injured last year. He will be happy now at least. Maybe a few years down the road we can reaquire Ramsey and he can take us to the Superbowl!


I wish he and his wife the best! Ramsey fan 4 life! :)

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

[QUOTE=Huddle]Controversy? How can there be a controversy? Collins is clearly superior to Brunell!

The stats don't lie. Collins has thrown just 19 interceptions in 11 seasons while Brunell, that turnover machine, has been picked 102 times in 12.[/QUOTE]

Can't argue with that logic. Collins all the way!...but wait, what about Casey Bramlet?

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Can't argue with that logic. Collins all the way!...but wait, what about Casey Bramlet?[/QUOTE]
yea he's never thrown a pick...what is gibbs thinking

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

Ramsey, we hardly knew you. Say hello to Coles.

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

[QUOTE=Huddle]Controversy? How can there be a controversy? Collins is clearly superior to Brunell!

The stats don't lie. Collins has thrown just 19 interceptions in 11 seasons while Brunell, that turnover machine, has been picked 102 times in 12.[/QUOTE]


How many games has Collins started in his 11 seasons? How many passes has Collins thrown in that same time spand compared to Brunell?

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

[QUOTE=Longtimefan]How many games has Collins started in his 11 seasons? How many passes has Collins thrown in that same time spand compared to Brunell?[/QUOTE]

it was a joke, flying by ;)

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

Good luck to Patrick, he will be successful in the NFL somewhere...just not New York.

So if he was traded before the deadline last year, what would have happened when Brunell got hurt in the Giants game? Could you really say that the Skins would have won with Campbell and made the playoffs? I don't know, but I'm glad they had him.

And yes, a 6th rounder is a total rip, but as I see it, its better than the nothing they would have gotten from cutting him to free the cap space anyway.

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

[QUOTE=GTripp0012]Good luck to Patrick, he will be successful in the NFL somewhere...just not New York.

So if he was traded before the deadline last year, what would have happened when Brunell got hurt in the Giants game? Could you really say that the Skins would have won with Campbell and made the playoffs? I don't know, but I'm glad they had him.

And yes, a 6th rounder is a total rip, but as I see it, its better than the nothing they would have gotten from cutting him to free the cap space anyway.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I think a 6th rounder may be in the end worse than nothing. With a 6th rounder you have to give them at least SOME money when they sign, and lets face it, they aren't gonna make the team.

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

im not so sure paul. sometimes there are gems to be had. its a crapshoot, however wouldnt the payoff be WAY greater if we were to find a gem. cooley was a 3rd round pick and we see how he turned out. granted 3rd is WAY better than 6th, but still.

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]Actually, I think a 6th rounder may be in the end worse than nothing. With a 6th rounder you have to give them at least SOME money when they sign, and lets face it, they aren't gonna make the team.[/QUOTE]
Paul, Tom Brady on line 1, he has a point of disagreement with you.

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

We could probably package some of those later round picks to move up a bit. A 6th rounder isn't a complete waste.

What did people realistically expect when the Vikes only got a 2nd rounder for Culpepper??

Obviously the demand around the league for an inconsistent/unproven QB isn't that high, especially in a flooded QB market.

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

I hear you guys on the "Tom Brady" issue, but lets be honest here, our draft evaluations haven't been exactly "stellar" in the mid to late rounds. This perplexes me, b/c Gibbs is so quick to address a problem. How can anyone look at our draft performance in the mid to late rounds the past several years and not see a problem? I mean at some point don't we question the scouting team?

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

[QUOTE=Huddle]Controversy? How can there be a controversy? Collins is clearly superior to Brunell!

The stats don't lie. Collins has thrown just 19 interceptions in 11 seasons while Brunell, that turnover machine, has been picked 102 times in 12.[/QUOTE]Campbell should get the job he has never thrown an interception in the NFL.