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[quote=gibbsisgod]I totally agree about snyder, if the rest of the league actually paid attention to these past few years instead of just ridiculing him because of his first couple of years they could see that he isnt just some dumb owner with alot of money. he has grown up alot since the deion, bruce smith and jeff george days but the media chooses to dwell on past failures instead of his most recent accomplishments....marcus washington, griffin,moss,and the list goes on...[/quote]

At least I know who to read or listen to now. The ones that ignore or are unaware of the changes (for the better) and successes of the redskins are either unprofessional or incompetent. And I choose to be picky and ignore certain articles, especially the analytical/opinionated(sp) articles of these unprofessionals and incompetents.

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[quote=warriorzpath] And I choose to be picky and ignore certain articles, especially the analytical/opinionated(sp) articles of these unprofessionals and incompetents.[/quote]very well put:food-smil

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[quote=Huddle]The next level of growing frustration is the logical fallacy referred to sometimes as Appeal to Popularity: "Everyone here thinks you're wrong." I get a lot of these because I'm self-confident enough to present controversial positions.
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LOL......priceless.


It couldn't be that you're simply wrong. No....that's just not possible. LOL!

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If we kicked off annoying members this site would be pretty empty :)

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[quote=Huddle]
I am a veteran of some debate boards, politics and religion, where the moderators are very strict. The way you and others make ad hominem attacks here would never be tolerated on those boards.
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Matty, I'd take this as a shot at you and the other mods. DO YOUR JOB, MAN! :spank:

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My response would be our door is always open, feel free to walk back the way you came.

I don't have the time or energy to babysit everyone. Extreme cases get the boot.

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....and I would add a "PLEASE" to that....LOL

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[quote=Huddle]Will it surprise you if I don't agree?

I am a veteran of some debate boards, politics and religion, where the moderators are very strict. The way you and others make ad hominem attacks here would never be tolerated on those boards.

Since there is no impartial panel on these boards to judge who has won a debate, I've devised my own way.

Strawman arguments are the first sign of frustration. When opponents have to twist my words to come up with arguments, they're all but done.

The next level of growing frustration is the logical fallacy referred to sometimes as Appeal to Popularity: "Everyone here thinks you're wrong." I get a lot of these because I'm self-confident enough to present controversial positions.

In the final stage, losers vent their frustration with the ad hominem fallacy, personal attacks in lieu of arguments. I get a lot of those.

When a poster continually alternates personal attacks with strawman arguments, I ignore their posts. They waste my time.

Your most recent post is nothing more than a belated ad hominem attack which would signal to any impartial mind reading this (if there is one) that you are bearing a grudge. I wonder why?[/quote]

This post is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. You seem to view these discussions as a debate to be won or lost. I certainly don't feel that way about discussions around these parts, and I doubt others do either. I just sense that some find you obnoxious. It's alright, we're all obnoxious from time to time. Daseal and his puppy-kicking pessimism, Malcolm and his schizophrenic screen names, #56fanatic and his love affair with Lavar, and of course me for writing posts like this. But all this is to say that I wish you'd drop the whole attitude that every discussion is a pissing match. If I promise to tell you that you're right after every post, will you brush the chip off your shoulder? Because I really don't care about winning debates with you, and if that's what it takes to get you to chill, I'm willing to do it.

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[quote=Schneed10]I just sense that some find you obnoxious. It's alright, we're all obnoxious from time to time.[/quote]

Except me, of course. I'm never obnoxious.

......wait, was that obnoxious?

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[quote=PSUSkinsFan21] It couldn't be that you're simply wrong. No....that's just not possible. LOL![/quote]

Of course it's possible, and it can sometimes be proven by making a sound logical argument. You should try it sometime.

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[quote=Huddle]Of course it's possible, and it can sometimes be proven by making a sound logical argument. You should try it sometime.[/quote]

Wow, pot calling the kettle black here. Bit hypocritical aren't we? Given your recent "I'm of a higher standard than everyone else here" posts?

I've tried arguing with you on multiple occasions via sound logical argument. And rather than engage me, you've deliberately avoided taking my arguments head on. Or, you've simply addressed only small segments of my overall arguments, quoted them, taken them out of context, focused on them even though they weren't the main thrust of the argument I was making, and/or have completely ignored every argument I've made that has proven your point wrong (even when a number of other people on the same thread could understand my arguments and points without confusion). I'm not about to rehash the whole statistics argument, but the fact is I killed you in that debate.

See, you're not the only one who can come off like a condescending prick.

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go skins

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[quote=Huddle]Of course it's possible, and it can sometimes be proven by making a sound logical argument. You should try it sometime.[/quote]lets all just let it go

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Schneed10

[QUOTE]This post is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. You seem to view these discussions as a debate to be won or lost. I certainly don't feel that way about discussions around these parts, and I doubt others do either. [/QUOTE]

When people mostly agree on an issue, they discuss it. When they don't, and they make an argument for their positions, it's a debate by my definition.

Besides, you're coming across as holier-than-thou for someone who arrogantly puts down posters with regularity for the stupidity of their opinions.

I don't do that.

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[quote=PSUSkinsFan21]Wow, pot calling the kettle black here. Bit hypocritical aren't we? Given your recent "I'm of a higher standard than everyone else here" posts?

I've tried arguing with you on multiple occasions via sound logical argument. And rather than engage me, you've deliberately avoided taking my arguments head on. Or, you've simply addressed only small segments of my overall arguments, quoted them, taken them out of context, focused on them even though they weren't the main thrust of the argument I was making, and/or have completely ignored every argument I've made that has proven your point wrong (even when a number of other people on the same thread could understand my arguments and points without confusion). I'm not about to rehash the whole statistics argument, but the fact is I killed you in that debate.

See, you're not the only one who can come off like a condescending prick.[/quote]

Huddle, just wanted to point out that this shows I'm not the only one you're chafing. There are no grudges held, it's just your style is grating.