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dmek25 05-22-2007 03:28 PM

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time for a big mac?

Hog1 05-22-2007 03:44 PM

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Who is it that offers the Lard-bowl? It's like a full bowl of mashed potato's, fried mystery meat, other asundry items in the Trans-fat Bonanza.

MTK 05-22-2007 03:46 PM

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[quote=Hog1;312191]Who is it that offers the Lard-bowl? It's like a full bowl of mashed potato's, fried mystery meat, other asundry items in the Trans-fat Bonanza.[/quote]

Sounds like KFC.

I feel bloated just watching those commercials.

Hog1 05-22-2007 03:49 PM

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I been trying to lose a little weight myself, and try not to look at that stuff

skinsfan_nn 05-22-2007 04:01 PM

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Michael Moore is a waste of air

JoeRedskin 05-22-2007 04:02 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;312192]Sounds like KFC.

I feel bloated just watching those commercials.[/QUOTE]

Remember when KFC did an add campaign about how there stuff was all "low carb". I just thought that was hilarious. Wanna bet some ad guy got a bonus for that one?

Hi we're KFC - no carbs in fried chicken so don't worry! What? The eight cups of fat in one drumstick? No worries!!! It's not carbs!!! Yeah!!

djnemo65 05-22-2007 06:31 PM

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[QUOTE=firstdown;312142]they state this "its citizens had the most potential years of life lost due to circulatory and respiratory diseases as well as diabetes" which is due to over weight which Americia has one of the biggest problems. They say our health care is failing. It seems as they only looked at raw numbers and did not figure in weight and those issue. Not a good source.[/QUOTE]

Well I haven't read the study in detail (neither have you), for me the most interesting thing - and believe me this is not the first place this has been suggested - is that America spends more now than any country in the history of the world on health care and still ranks lower then other countries in many categories.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 05-22-2007 07:05 PM

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[QUOTE=djnemo65;312283]Well I haven't read the study in detail (neither have you), for me the most interesting thing - and believe me this is not the first place this has been suggested - is that America spends more now than any country in the history of the world on health care and still ranks lower then other countries in many categories.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, I didn't think the study revealed anything new. People have known for quite some time that we Americans don't get the most bang for our health care buck. But, I think it is fair to say that America's unprecedented weight problems are a major factor in driving up every American's health care expenditures. I would like to see a study that compares the U.S. to other developed countries and somehow takes into account our record obesity rates.

skinsfan_nn 05-22-2007 07:41 PM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;312291]Honestly, I didn't think the study revealed anything new. People have known for quite some time that we Americans don't get the most bang for our health care buck. But, I think it is fair to say that America's unprecedented weight problems are a major factor in driving up every American's health care expenditures. I would like to see a study that compares the U.S. to other developed countries and somehow takes into account our record obesity rates.[/quote]

You are so politically correct SGG. Where ya been? I thought maybe somebody shot the sheriff but missed the deputy....?

Really you are correct America's weight problems are a giant snowball effect in the healthcare system.....that gets passed along to ALL that CAN afford healthcare.

The unfurtunate folks (which sucks) that also get's passed along to the folks that pay for healthcare.

Premiums continue to increace and benefits get cut, it's a no win for the average working man.

FRPLG 05-22-2007 07:42 PM

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[QUOTE=Hog1;312191]Who is it that offers the Lard-bowl? It's like a full bowl of mashed potato's, fried mystery meat, other asundry items in the Trans-fat Bonanza.[/QUOTE]

A failure pile in a sadness bowl.

skinsfan_nn 05-22-2007 07:51 PM

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[quote=Hog1;312191]Who is it that offers the Lard-bowl? It's like a full bowl of mashed potato's, fried mystery meat, other asundry items in the Trans-fat Bonanza.[/quote]

Stop by your local KFC and you'll find out, they might be kind and even through in a biscuit.......just to make sure those arteries our good and clogged up.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 05-22-2007 08:18 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;312301]You are so politically correct SGG. Where ya been? I thought maybe somebody shot the sheriff but missed the deputy....?
[/QUOTE]

Hey Skinsfan_nn. I've been real busy lately finishing my final exams, sending papers to the State Bar, and I just bought my first house. Needless to say, I haven't had time to do much of anything fun (e.g., post a lot on thewarpath)!

skinsfan_nn 05-22-2007 08:22 PM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;312318]Hey Skinsfan_nn. I've been real busy lately finishing my final exams, sending papers to the State Bar, and I just bought my first house. Needless to say, I haven't had time to do much of anything fun (e.g., post a lot on thewarpath)![/quote]


Great Man! Good luck & Congrads!

Oakland Red 05-23-2007 04:31 AM

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The answer to the health care crisis: single payer healthcare.

[URL="http://www.grahamazon.com/sp/"]Single-Payer: Answers and Facts about Health Care for All[/URL]

The animated version is a good overview.

Only political candidate to support if you want everyone covered fairly and efficiently, and believe that health care is a right for everyone?

Dennis Kucinich!

[URL="http://www.kucinich.us"]Kucinich for President 2008[/URL]

[URL="http://kucinich.us/issues/universalhealth.php"]Universal Health Care | Kucinich for President 2008[/URL]
[LEFT][B][COLOR=#0000cc]Dennis Kucinich is the only Presidential Candidate with a plan for a Universal Single Payer, NOT FOR PROFIT Healthcare system. [/COLOR][/B][/LEFT]
[LEFT][B][COLOR=#0000cc]MEDICARE FOR ALL[/COLOR][/B][/LEFT]
[LEFT][B][COLOR=#0000cc]The plan in embodied in [URL="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:H.R.676:"][COLOR=#990066]HR 676[/COLOR] [/URL]the Conyers-Kucinich bill, written by Dennis Kucinich & John Conyers[/COLOR][/B][/LEFT]
[LEFT][B][COLOR=#0000cc]The plan covers all healthcare needs, including dental care, mental care, vision care, prescription drugs, and long-term care - at NO extra cost![/COLOR][/B][/LEFT]
[LEFT][B][COLOR=#0000cc]Kucinich's plan, HR 676, is supported by 78 Members of Congress, 250 Union Locals, and 14,000 physicians and is endorsed by the New Hampshire Democratic Party. [/COLOR][/B][/LEFT]
[CENTER][I]"Health care is an essential safeguard of human life and dignity and there is an obligation for society to ensure that every person be able to realize this right." [/I]
Cardinal Joseph Bernardin, Chicago Archdiocese


[/CENTER]

firstdown 05-23-2007 08:29 AM

Re: Michael Moore's Latest Target: Your HMO
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;312291]Honestly, I didn't think the study revealed anything new. People have known for quite some time that we Americans don't get the most bang for our health care buck. But, I think it is fair to say that America's unprecedented weight problems are a major factor in driving up every American's health care expenditures. I would like to see a study that compares the U.S. to other developed countries and somehow takes into account our record obesity rates.[/quote]
I cannot agree with that statement. I would have to see a real study on the issue which factors in all aspects of health and insurance. For example if my family has a history of high blood preasure, colestoral, heart problems, diabetes etc... and I smoke, eat high fat foods, drink every night, don't exercise, over weight, doctors can spend all they want trying to keep me healthy but all will fail at some point. This has to be taken into consideration when determining if we have a failing system. I agree there are area that need some work but the system as a whole is not broken.


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