Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[quote=talk show host;421292]First off, Fassel ISN'T a coach, and hasn't been for a long time. Any other coach out there recognizes that Fassel should be honored to have even been considered. Just being interviewed by ANYONE, let alone the WASHINGTON REDSKINS, for a headcoaching job is the best thing thats happened to Fassels career in two years.

Secondly, Fassel didn't get treated bad by Snyder - he just didn't get the job. so what? if you go out and try to apply for an job, you usually don't get regular updates on your status - heck, it took me 2 months to get the job i currently have and i didn't know what was going on - they were interviewing other candidates and being thorough. Why should Fassel or NFL head coaching candidates deserve minute-by-minute updates on their status?

Should snyder have to call EVERY coaching candidate after EVERY interview to tell them where they rank in his mind at that point in time. "Yeah Jim, this morning you were the top candidate, but i just had a really good interview. You're my second favorite now, but i need to sleep on it. You could be back up to #1 tomorrow - i'll let you know."

The truth is, its BETTER for Snyder to have not talked to Fassel or anyone else to give them updates. Snyder seems to like Fassel as a person alot, and the more contact they had together, the more likely Snyders judgement would have been skewed by the contact. Snyder treated Fassel like all the other candidates - Everyone else just knew better than to be a cry-baby to the media and try to garner sympathy when there is no reason such sympathy should be given.

Any coach who would have a negative opinion of this organization [I]based on how the team treated fassel [/I]is another cry-baby we wouldn't want as a coach anyways.[/quote]

I respect your opinion but your dead wrong on every count,it just is'nt the way he treated Fassel it's the way he conducted the interveiw process and the way he treated GW and Joe Gibbs.Your hatered for Fassel is clear.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[QUOTE=Giantone;421341]I respect your opinion but your dead wrong on every count,it just is'nt the way he treated Fassel it's the way he conducted the interveiw process and the way he treated GW and Joe Gibbs.Your hatered for Fassel is clear.[/QUOTE]

As is your "hatered" for Dan Snyder. You don't know how GW and Gibbs were treated, but I guess it's cool to go ahead and assume.

(yup...I definitely hate the Giants once again)

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[QUOTE=Giantone;421341]I respect your opinion but your dead wrong on every count,it just is'nt the way he treated Fassel it's the way he conducted the interveiw process and the way he treated GW and Joe Gibbs.Your hatered for Fassel is clear.[/QUOTE]


"The way he treated GW and Joe Gibbs?" what are you referring to? You mean how Gibbs screwed Snyder over and failed to live up to the contract he signed where he agreed to coach the skins for 5 years? And how Snyder did everything he could to try and convince Gibbs to stay... man, Snyder sure screwed Gibbs over there...

And GW... man, poor GW. He was entitled to the HC job. Sure, it wasnt in his contract or anything, but the fans and players wanted him to be HC - he earned it! What was snyder thinking, giving GW four interviews to try and prove he was worthy of the job. If only snyder could trust a guy who showed no respect to HOF coach Joe Gibbs by atleast letting him know about that 10-men on defense play. I mean, sure, GW is going to deceive a HOF coach who won 3 superbowls, but he would NEVER deceive Snyder. And think of all the goodwill GW earned by running lavar arrington - the face of the franchise - out of town because his ego was so big. And insisting on getting Archuletta against vinnys advice - GREAT personnel decision by GW. Letting Ryan Clark go - GREAT personnel decision by GW. Having safeties and corners participate in separate meetings - GREAT coaching move by GW. Yeah, GW really got screwed. After everything he did here and his miserable past HC coaching record, he sure deserved the HC job handed to him on a silver platter.

I don't hate fassel. I have nothing against the man personnally, or as a coach. If he had been named HC, i would have supported him., just as i do zorn. But instead, he has shown exactly why he doesnt deserve to be a HC by his comments to the media. He is a cry-baby with no class. There is a reason he hasnt had a HC job in 3 years and was fired from his last job by his best friend - he's not up to the task.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;421343]As is your "hatered" for Dan Snyder. You don't know how GW and Gibbs were treated, but I guess it's cool to go ahead and assume.

(yup...I definitely hate the Giants once again)[/QUOTE]

I beleive he's just mad we didn't get Fassel, because he knows what "easy pickings" we would be with a wimp like that "leading" our team.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;421343]As is your "hatered" for Dan Snyder. You don't know how GW and Gibbs were treated, but I guess it's cool to go ahead and assume.

(yup...I definitely hate the Giants once again)[/QUOTE]

You actually stopped hating the Giants at one point? I've hated them more than the Cowboys for YEARS! The hatred is even worse now.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[QUOTE=Paintrain;421373]You actually stopped hating the Giants at one point? I've hated them more than the Cowboys for YEARS! The hatred is even worse now.[/QUOTE]

For a brief minute I was happy they won the Super Bowl. Though in a perfect world, neither team would have won.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[quote=SmootSmack;421378]For a brief minute I was happy they won the Super Bowl. Though in a perfect world, neither team would have won.[/quote]


LOL.............I know how hard that was for you and I want you to know it was appriciated.:)

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[QUOTE=Giantone;421387]LOL.............I know how hard that was for you and I want you to know it was appriciated.:)[/QUOTE]

I for one was elated. I don't hate the Giants like I do the Cowboys and I want to see Manning succeed (at least when he's not playing us). Since we were not in the game, seeing the Giants win/the Patriots lose was the best thing I could have hoped for.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[quote=talk show host;421350]"The way he treated GW and Joe Gibbs?" what are you referring to? You mean how Gibbs screwed Snyder over and failed to live up to the contract he signed where he agreed to coach the skins for 5 years? And how Snyder did everything he could to try and convince Gibbs to stay... man, Snyder sure screwed Gibbs over there...


LOL...................Jr you need to make up your mind,In one breath you talk about Joe Gibbs failure to honer his contract ...........the hell with his family ,right? Then you switch to how GW disrespected your HOF coach???Make up your mind your hatered is blinding your thought process.Hate to tell you this but you kind of prove the point ,Snyder is the owner but not everything going on during the game is ok'ed thru the owner...............should Gibbs have know yeah but unless I missed it nobody has stated exactly when this was thought up and if it was a last min thing .it is understadable.Your bitching about Gibbs...he brought the team back to the playoffs just not once but twice in 4 years...yup he screwed Danny boy,how dare he leave becuase of a sick grandchild..that bastard!

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;421391]I for one was elated. I don't hate the Giants like I do the Cowboys and I want to see Manning succeed (at least when he's not playing us). Since we were not in the game, seeing the Giants win/the Patriots lose was the best thing I could have hoped for.[/quote]


Do you know the patriot fans have a petition to replay the last 1:40 seconds of the game?I'm serous!


here................


[url=http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?XLIItrut]A request for the NFL to investigate the final 1:40 of Super Bowl XLII - Signatures[/url]

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[I]Do you know the patriot fans have a petition to replay the last 1:40 seconds of the game?I'm serous!.[/I]

now if that is being a bunch of whining ass little girly men what is?i hear the ram fans are petitioning the nfl to re-play the last 2 minutes of the 2002 superbowl too since the patriots filmed their walk through the day before.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[QUOTE=FRPLG;420603]I am basically convinced that most media and a lot of fans will never ever look at something Snyder does and think it was done right when it comes to footbal. I am just so tired of all the complaining and bashing. I don't even care what PK says because I just wont read it. I am just done with the negativism. I am not defending DS but in the end he is obviously damned is does and damned if he doesn't on just about everything.[/QUOTE]


Just spoke with Mr Snyder this morning and asked him about his mental state after such an exhausting search for his successor to Joe Gibbs. He reiterated that it had been one of the most difficult of times for him, and as a result he had come to the conclusion the next time he's faced with the challenge his MO is going to be vastly different.

He's going to invite all the media types form the various networks to his home, HAVE THEM present him with a list of names who they feel comfortable with being the next HC of the Redskins. Once all parties are comfortable with the list of candidates, they will return to their respective networks, conduct a poll and whatever candidate emerges as leader from the poll results he will name his next HC. But wait, there's a catch!!...............They will also have to pay him.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[quote=talk show host;421351]I beleive he's just mad we didn't get Fassel, because he knows what "easy pickings" we would be with a wimp like that "leading" our team.[/quote]


What a well thoughtout and cohesive response.................

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

Isn't Zorn 54 yrs old? Why does everyone talk about him like he's 35? At this point I'm skeptical. Why didn't any other team show interest in hiring him before if he's been around the league for 10+?

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[quote=Longtimefan;421453]Just spoke with Mr Snyder this morning and asked him about his mental state after such an exhausting search for his successor to Joe Gibbs. He reiterated that it had been one of the most difficult of times for him, and as a result he had come to the conclusion the next time he's faced with the challenge his MO is going to be vastly different.

He's going to invite all the media types form the various networks to his home, HAVE THEM present him with a list of names who they feel comfortable with being the next HC of the Redskins. Once all parties are comfortable with the list of candidates, they will return to their respective networks, conduct a poll and whatever candidate emerges as leader from the poll results he will name his next HC. But wait, there's a catch!!...............They will also have to pay him.[/quote]

Let's be more specific than just throwing out the term "media" and saying they are universally out to get Snyder (poor Dan). Even the King piece, which inspired this thread, wasn't vitrolic (as was much fan response to Fassel, underservedly so in my opinion) he was simply stating - in his opinion as a commentator and columnist - a better option existed which would have had an experienced coach on top with Jim Zorn running the offense. I tend to agree with that sentiment, but now we're moving forward. Wilbon was unconditionally laudatory of the move and last I checked he qualified as a "media type". I think much media coverage deserves criticism (take for instance all the 'horse race' coverage of the primaries), but not everyone in the "media" represents some scary force with some maniacle agenda.

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