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[QUOTE][B]The Miami Herald reports Jason Taylor would like to be traded this offseason.[/B]
The Herald suggests that Miami's failure to land free agent OLB Calvin Pace makes a Taylor trade less likely, but a draft-day deal could happen if they pick UVA OLB/DE Chris Long No. 1 overall. Taylor reportedly wants to play on a contender. In the end, the odds seemingly favor a trade being worked out. [/QUOTE]

Before the riots start, I'm NOT saying we're involved, only this could be the "huge" trade being speculated.

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[QUOTE=That Guy;431014]his team is willing to trade a 24 year old studish cb on a cheap rookie contract...


and a 5'8" guy isn't going to help a lot on TO or plex grabbing jump balls.[/QUOTE]

Is Deangelo only 5'8"? Also, I personally think the guy is overrated. He's got speed and agility, but I remember watching him last season and thinking "He's the next Champ Bailey?"

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[quote=Beemnseven;431006]Just how much of a "locker room cancer" is DeAngelo Hall? Can anyone cite actual examples of how his attitude is trash?[/quote]

I think most people get the impression by the way he was publicly talking about and criticizing his team's coach last season, but by the end of the season, he was proven right when the coach QUIT because he couldn't handle the job.

He does have an outgoing attitude and that doesn't work well when things aren't going well.

I'm not sure I want him on the Skins but he's not a "cancer" like some people say. If anything, he was sticking up for the team last year, even if he didn't pick the right way to do it.

WaPo reports we were interested, but I don't see it happening:

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As I reported a while back, the Skins contacted Atlanta about CB DeAngelo Hall a few times during the combine, but the Hall talks have not progressed with any team. (His agent has not even been given permission to talk contract with anyone yet, sources said). Many clubs have serious concerns about his attitude, maturity, makeup, and how he might alter team chemistry. The guy is only 24 and has elite talent, but the Redskins just got flamebroiled by B-Lloyd and are no doubt thinking twice about going big for a player with similar issues.[/QUOTE]

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/03/update_if_you_can_call_it_that.html?nav=rss_blog]Update (If You Can Call It That) - Redskins Insider[/url]

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;431038]Is Deangelo only 5'8"? Also, I personally think the guy is overrated. He's got speed and agility, but I remember watching him last season and thinking "He's the next Champ Bailey?"[/quote]Every established No. 1 receiver in the NFL can burn D'Angelo Hall with consistency. We do have a need for a player with his skill set (i.e. top end No. 2 corner), but that skill set should cost us roughly a 4th round pick, and 3-4 million dollars a year.

Because D. Hall can run his mouth and alienate his coaches, it masks the fact that he isn't, nor will ever be a great player. He's got better speed than Carlos Rogers, but Rogers is more technically sound and has been developing better year to year than Hall, and some people on this board still think he's a bust. If that's the case (and it's opinional), then how is Hall not reaching bust territory.

Pro bowls are good for nothing except artificially inflating value. D. Hall is looking for 20 mil guaranteed somewhere, and that's more money than I'd be willing to give him in total.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;431006]Just how much of a "locker room cancer" is DeAngelo Hall? Can anyone cite actual examples of how his attitude is trash?[/QUOTE]

Well the main problem was that Monday night game right after Vick was indicted when the Falcons played the Saints and Blank wanted the focus to be on the game, Hall came running out with some Vick banner (or flag, something like that) and he wrote MV7 on his eye black.

Blank saw that as insurbodination when the whole team had been told not to bring more attention to the matter than it already had.

Hall is an outspoken guy, but that was one time he probably shouldn't have been so loud.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;431051]Every established No. 1 receiver in the NFL can burn D'Angelo Hall with consistency. We do have a need for a player with his skill set (i.e. top end No. 2 corner), but that skill set should cost us roughly a 4th round pick, and 3-4 million dollars a year.

Because D. Hall can run his mouth and alienate his coaches, it masks the fact that he isn't, nor will ever be a great player. He's got better speed than Carlos Rogers, but Rogers is more technically sound and has been developing better year to year than Hall, and some people on this board still think he's a bust. If that's the case (and it's opinional), then how is Hall not reaching bust territory.

Pro bowls are good for nothing except artificially inflating value. D. Hall is looking for 20 mil guaranteed somewhere, and that's more money than I'd be willing to give him in total.[/QUOTE]
Wow, I guess you're not a member of the D. Hall fan club are you? He's a little better than you are giving him credit for. He was as close to a shutdown corner in '05 & '06 as there was in the NFC but had a terrible '07, as did the entire Falcon team. He's always been a "me" guy and that won't likely change, but that doesn't impact his skill set between the white lines. If he's wearing the maroon and black next hear, he instantly becomes our best CB, yes better than Springs and Smoot because of his big play ability and the ability to shut down the oppoents top WR on any given Sunday.

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hall was right to criticize his coach, and was proven to be right. he said the coach would walk through the locker room and not say nothinggggg

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[quote=Paintrain;431061]Wow, I guess you're not a member of the D. Hall fan club are you? He's a little better than you are giving him credit for. He was as close to a shutdown corner in '05 & '06 as there was in the NFC but had a terrible '07, as did the entire Falcon team. He's always been a "me" guy and that won't likely change, but that doesn't impact his skill set between the white lines. If he's wearing the maroon and black next hear, he instantly becomes our best CB, yes better than Springs and Smoot because of his big play ability and the ability to shut down the oppoents top WR on any given Sunday.[/quote]

True. I'm a Hokie fan but never cared for D. Hall. However, he's a very good corner that played on one the worst teams last year. Despite that, he managed 21 passed defensed and 70 tackles. I wouldn't be pleased if we got him but wouldn't complain for very long if he was signed.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;431051]Every established No. 1 receiver in the NFL can burn D'Angelo Hall with consistency. We do have a need for a player with his skill set (i.e. top end No. 2 corner), but that skill set should cost us roughly a 4th round pick, and 3-4 million dollars a year.

Because D. Hall can run his mouth and alienate his coaches, it masks the fact that he isn't, nor will ever be a great player. He's got better speed than Carlos Rogers, but Rogers is more technically sound and has been developing better year to year than Hall, and some people on this board still think he's a bust. If that's the case (and it's opinional), then how is Hall not reaching bust territory.

Pro bowls are good for nothing except artificially inflating value. D. Hall is looking for 20 mil guaranteed somewhere, and that's more money than I'd be willing to give him in total.[/QUOTE]

you're right, chris cooley and chris samuels going to the pro bowl means nothing. they are crap, its only gonna increase their value. stupid pro bowls. right>

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[QUOTE=Dirtyskin21;431062]hall was right to criticize his coach, and was proven to be right. he said the coach would walk through the locker room and not say nothinggggg[/QUOTE]

I don't think a player should EVER publicly call out a coach. If a player has beef with his coach, he should approach him in private and express his problems in a respectful manner.

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[quote=Dirtyskin21;431066]you're right, chris cooley and chris samuels going to the pro bowl means nothing. they are crap, its only gonna increase their value. stupid pro bowls. right>[/quote]You think Cooley deserves to be a one time pro bowler at this point in his career?

He's gotten jobbed at least once, probably twice because the pro bowl is a stupid popularity contest, and Cooley isn't nearly as popular among non-Redskins fans as Shockey is among non-Giants fans, or Witten is among non-Cowboy fans.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;431068]I don't think a player should EVER publicly call out a coach. If a player has beef with his coach, he should approach him in private and express his problems in a respectful manner.[/QUOTE]

Sheriff, I almost totally agree with you but we don't know if he did try to approach him in private. I would generally give the coach the benefit of the doubt but remember this is the same coach who quit on his team 13 games into his first season. Maybe Petrino was horrible with the players (as reported) and maybe he deserved to be called out. I hear what you're saying and in general, I think a player shouldn't call out his coach but Petrino was kind of a jack-ass who also quit on his team when the going was tough.

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I know I just added a post to the total, but it's amazing how many posts a thread about Jay Glazier announcing that there will be a trade in the NFL at some point this offseason has generated. Imagine if Jay had given us actual information...

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[QUOTE=celts32;431074]I know I just added a post to the total, but it's amazing how many posts a thread about Jay Glazier announcing that there will be a trade in the NFL at some point this offseason has generated. Imagine if Jay had given us actual information...[/QUOTE]

This is what happens when we don't sign 4 free agents in the first 3 hours of free agency..

Stupid financial responsibility.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;431068]I don't think a player should EVER publicly call out a coach. If a player has beef with his coach, he should approach him in private and express his problems in a respectful manner.[/quote]
im old school, and totally agree. with that out of the way, i think gtripp has some sort of personal thing against Hall. there is no way Carlos Rogers name should be in the same sentence with Hall. all the pro bowl, popularity bull crap aside. Hall is as close to a #1 corner as there is. to me, Rogers is nothing more then a nickle back. with Hall along side of Shawn Springs, the skins will be a better team. anyone care to argue about that?